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Title: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: mgriffin on November 30, 2009, 06:01:16 PM
Artist: Viridian Sun
Title: Infinite In All Directions
Label: Hypnos Recordings CD, hyp2957


(http://www.hypnos.com/catalog/hypnos-vs-iiad.jpg)

2009. Viridian Sun is a duo focusing on abstract improvisation, featuring Hypnos founder Mike Griffin,
and Hypnos solo artist David Tollefson. Their last studio album Perihelion was released a full decade
ago on Hypnos, though VS continued to record together and occasionally perform life. The new album
Infinite In All Directions moves into slightly different sonic material, downplaying synthesizer
electronics in favor of guitar and bass guitar, electronically treated and looped. The result combines
sustained, blissful drones, along with occasionally strange, complex overlapping loops.

For a retrospective of the sound of Viridian Sun, including two tracks from the new album, as well as
rarities and unreleased tracks, listen to the first Hypnos Podcast:
http://www.hypnos.com/audio/h.podcast.01_20091118_Viridian-Sun.mp3 (http://www.hypnos.com/audio/h.podcast.01_20091118_Viridian-Sun.mp3)

Those interested may also check out a bit of background on the Hypnos Forum, along with photographs
of the recording sessions, for the new album over the past eighteen months here:
http://www.hypnos.com/smf/index.php?topic=73.0 (http://www.hypnos.com/smf/index.php?topic=73.0)

This is the first release on Hypnos featuring our new, simplified packaging. A photograph of the assembled
package, which includes CD and booklet inside a translucent envelope, is here:
http://www.hypnos.com/forumpix/hypnospackage2.jpg (http://www.hypnos.com/forumpix/hypnospackage2.jpg)

It should be clarified that despite the new packaging, Hypnos releases are still proper, manufactured CDs,
and not CDRs.  The envelopes are heavy, translucent recyclable paper, not true vellum (in other words,
these are not made from animal skin).

Many Hypnos listeners have asked over the years when we'll release something new by Viridian Sun, and
we now present an album that may be their best yet: Infinite In All Directions.

Track listing with MP3 samples:
1 > infinite in all directions > 13:31 mp3 clip http://www.hypnos.com/audio/vs-iiad-01.mp3
2 > parallax drift > 07:13  mp3 clip http://www.hypnos.com/audio/vs-iiad-02.mp3
3 > four times I slept for a year > 09:46  mp3 clip http://www.hypnos.com/audio/vs-iiad-03.mp3
4 > travel at absolute zero > 05:03  mp3 clip http://www.hypnos.com/audio/vs-iiad-04.mp3
5 > 40 Hz emergence > 05:41  mp3 clip http://www.hypnos.com/audio/vs-iiad-05.mp3
6 > magnetars cast no shadow > 12:52  mp3 clip http://www.hypnos.com/audio/vs-iiad-06.mp3
7 > light years from here > 08:58  mp3 clip http://www.hypnos.com/audio/vs-iiad-07.mp3

Hypnos Online Store listing, special price $10.99:
http://www.hypnos.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=hyp2957 (http://www.hypnos.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=hyp2957)
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: Wanterkeelt on December 01, 2009, 02:27:02 PM
Hi, this is great news. But one question before I place another Hypnos order : you said it would be possible to get a classic "back cover" as with the classic Hypnos releases... where can I enter those instructions ? And will the price be significally different ?
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: mgriffin on December 01, 2009, 02:39:35 PM
We don't yet have that option worked out, so our customers don't yet have the ability to purchase any version but the simplified packaging.

The design of the tray card (official name for the back cover, which goes inside the CD tray) is finished so very soon I'll make it available as a PDF download for those who wish to print it themselves.

Those customers who wish to purchase a "classic style" package in a jewel case will need to wait a bit longer, and the price will be slightly higher too (otherwise everyone will just buy the plastic case version and it would defeat the whole purpose of this change).  We lowered the price from the usual $12.99 to $10.99 for the simplified packaging and if somebody wants a version with the tray card and the jewel case we'll probably just charge the old $12.99 price for it.

Sorry for the delay -- I just have to figure out how to implement the dual-format listing in our store.
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: Wanterkeelt on December 01, 2009, 02:46:52 PM
ok thanks for the info, I will then just wait until it's solved before I place my order. Maybe you could just list it twice, with two different catalogue numbers and a little explanation...
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: drone on on December 01, 2009, 06:56:29 PM
I like what Hypnos is doing.  Fight the good fight against jewel cases! They are bulky and I'm drowning in them here.  Any elimination of them is welcome by me.  Mike, can you also make a super budget version of just the CD, no artwork or sleeve or even writing on the disc, for $4.99? And maybe offer the super deluxe packaging option--a 2 lb. slate rock "jewel case" housed in a cardboard "long box" like the original CD packaging, 20-page booklet and DVD, and delivered to my doorstep in a wheelbarrow? I think $20.99 would be a fair price........ wink  ;-)

CAN'T WAIT TO HEAR THIS ALBUM!!!
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: 9dragons on December 04, 2009, 03:09:44 AM
Incredible sounds, I am inspired to get hold of it. And I am happy for the new format ... Let us destroy the jewel case.
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: drone on on December 08, 2009, 01:16:22 AM
Got in mail today...before listening I do have some comments.  Again, I do like this new packaging implentation, but....What happened to the original cover artwork??  As shown on the website it's very bright, with more dynamic (and different) swirls of color, and decidedly digital-art looking.  The finished product I received is quite different, looking more like a darker watercolor painting than the bright swirly digital art shown here.  Also I don't like the "translucent" sleeve, as it blurs the artwork; therefore a clear plastic resealable sleeve would be more suitable.  If you had some booklet-sized thin, cardboard type squares it could go behind the booklet to give more weight to the package.  Also the paper quality on the booklet is a lighter weight (IMO, too light) than the standard Hypnos release booklets.  Sorry to sound all picky and negative, just stating an honest opinion here!  I am sure my summation of the music will be much more enthusiastic once I cue up the disc shortly...
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: mgriffin on December 08, 2009, 10:23:58 AM
No need to apologize for offering your impression, drone on.

As for the paper, I think a few early copies were made with the paper we use for HSS releases, and normally these are supposed to use heavier "cover stock" paper, more like the cover of a paperback book, or the usual Hypnos CD booklet.  We will mail you one of these "improved" booklets, and in fact if there are other people out there who receive one of these first few copies with the thinner paper (basically the ordinary kind of paper you'd find in a normal CD booklet, but thinner than the heavy stuff we use in Hypnos CDs) contact us and we'll mail you one of the other.

As for the translucent paper envelope, well... I'll note your comment but we're going to give these a go, at least for now. I like the envelope, and I like the plastic-free concept.  If we could have found a really nice plastic envelope without ugly seams along the outside edge, we might have gone that way, but most plastic sleeves we've been able to find have edge seams that look to me a bit like stitching and I really don't like them.  I actually found a plastic sleeve I liked, on an old 12k label release but I was completely unable to find a source for the sleeves at any price. These had a "clean" edge, with the plastic folded over sharply and sealed on the back, more like a paper envelope.

Anyway, impressions are welcome, not only of the music but the presentation.  This packaging is a new thing for us, something I struggled with and worked on for a long time (hence the delay in all Hypnos releases earlier in 2009), but that doesn't mean I'm not open to hearing how people receive it, and possibly changing some things.
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: mystified on December 17, 2009, 02:54:07 PM
Guitars Are Cool

I am listening to the new Viridian Sun cd, "Infinite In All Directions", and I now think guitars in ambient music are cool!

If a listener expects country twangs or shredding solos or similar sounds, these may not always be found on the cd, but what you can find are deep, meditative, immersive waves of sound that shimmer, pulse, and move about. I suppose some comparisons might be drawn-- the duo floats synchronously like Roach and Obmana, but it is more mobile and hopeful music than the aformentioned duo often made. An occasional guitar note sounds a little like the famous "singing" guitar of Robert Rich, but not enough to be an imitation. Sometimes I feel a little like I am listening to an early Zoviet France composition, but it's nice because the sound is better. And I like Zoviet France.

Another positive to the album is that the tracks are quite varied, both in mood and composition. So you are not just buying into a redundant trip of some kind. Rather, there's lots to hear. You are going to want to listen.

Loops are used, and in a very active way. They shift, grow and move around. They are not just loops of stone, they are loops of cloth or light, flexible and intriguing.

I would say that some of the tracks have a slightly industrial vibe. For me that is a plus. But if you want just New Age-y effluvia, some tracks might seem too deep or mysterious. Personally, I prefer industrial to New Age, but that's just me. A comparison that somes to mind is with Rapoon's excellent "Fires Of The Borderlands". Melodic, inspired, with lots of movement, but also a little dark and edgey.

I would say that "Infinite In All Directions" is a really cool album and definitely worth picking up. I recommend it highly.
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: mgriffin on December 17, 2009, 03:12:53 PM
Very kind review, mystified -- thanks!  I'll pass it along to the other Viridian.
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: mystified on December 17, 2009, 03:13:58 PM
Sure! Just being honest in my reflections.
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: drone on on December 19, 2009, 06:37:49 PM
"Infinite In All Directions" is another fantastic cosmic space trip into the dark and unexplored regions--true "space music" in every sense of the phrase.  Without synths this time, the sound is much more dense than the duo's debut "Solar Noise" (still one of the best Hypnos releases ever), but no less atmospheric.  You gotta love guitars (which I do) and all the magical new sounds that can be coaxed out of them with delays and other processing goodies, to appreciate this music.  I imagine this release is what may have resulted had Slowdive dropped the girl and the drummer, and decided not to make pop music anymore, but rather sit around their own bedrooms and make trippy soundscapes for their own personal enjoyment.  There is that intimate vibe present on this recording.  Music not for the casual listen, but immersive music that demands your full attention to appreciate every nuance of the sounscapes.  One of the very best of 2009, and worth the 10-year wait.   
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: mgriffin on December 23, 2009, 10:27:22 AM
Thanks for the review, Drone On.  I'm glad you ended up feeling the album lived up to expectations!
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: mgriffin on January 06, 2010, 04:34:12 PM
Via email I received a really nice review of the album by former Hypnos member g.a.b. which I'll post here.


Quote
"Roughly ten years ago, the Hypnos <http://www.hypnos.com/> ambient
label was a 'magical' discovery for me: I had progressed from the
obligatory, lyric ridden rock-n-roll of my generation into the obscure & somewhat marginalized musical
world of King Crimson, Robert Fripp, David Bowie & Brian Eno.

I knew who the Who were, as well as Led Zeppelin, the Stones and the
plethora of New Wave & Punk bands (B-52's, Elvis Costello, Talking
Heads, the Police, the Human League, etc) that dotted the Club landscape & drove my frenetic, female
pursuing college lifestyle.

And then I happened upon that magical Hypnos link purchasing A Produce's Smile on the Void.

Getting a small cardboard parcel from this ambient focused Oregon label is always a thrill for me
because of what I know awaits me inside: yummy treats for my bud-plugged ears  And, nearly ten years
later, one of my 'stocking stuffers" this Christmas was "Infinite in all  Directions" the third studio
album by Viridian Sun, a band consisting of Hypnos founder Mike Griffin & partner in sound David
Tollefson.

The album's seven tracks, clocking in at just around sixty-three
minutes, are a gritty, grainy collection of electronic ambience &
drone-scaped, ethereal goodness --  playing off morphed/processed bass
&electric guitar as well as percussion & voice (not that you'd recognize any of the preceding in their
final state), the listener is at once transported into a systemic sound world, leaving one looking for
said world's limitations or edges... and finding them not.

I've already earmarked 4 of the 7 tracks for upcoming mixes."

Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: mgriffin on January 06, 2010, 04:41:00 PM
Here's another review, this time from Vital Ezine, review written by Frans DeWaard:

Quote
"Although Hypnos may not seem to appear as prolific as they used to be, its always good to see their releases. M. Griffin, responsible for the label, doesn't set out to innovate the world of music, but has carved out a niche of his own, which he likes to explore, either through his own music or that of others. Together with David Tollefson he plays music as Viridian Sun. They both take credit for playing guitars, bass, percussion, looping, procession and Griffin also for voice. Not that I detected many voice on here, but no doubt one could say that for guitar, save for some obvious point here and there. Everything they play is transformed into lengthy washes of ambient sound. Like the title suggests about the universe, it can also be said of the music. It expands in all directions, moving slowly, elegantly forward - or backward, or downward, side ways, up, down - and perhaps all of it in the same time. Time? Another relative thing - although I am not educated to say such things that deal with nature, or in any philosophical ways. Seven tracks, clearly apart, perhaps that's the extent of these things that make them time based. According to the cover, this was all recorded live in the studio, which made me think that these boys should be on the road and play all night concerts, endlessly improvising and exploring the depths of the synthesized ambient music. Warm music in cold days."

Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: Wanterkeelt on February 04, 2010, 04:59:44 AM
We don't yet have that option worked out, so our customers don't yet have the ability to purchase any version but the simplified packaging.

The design of the tray card (official name for the back cover, which goes inside the CD tray) is finished so very soon I'll make it available as a PDF download for those who wish to print it themselves.

Those customers who wish to purchase a "classic style" package in a jewel case will need to wait a bit longer, and the price will be slightly higher too (otherwise everyone will just buy the plastic case version and it would defeat the whole purpose of this change).  We lowered the price from the usual $12.99 to $10.99 for the simplified packaging and if somebody wants a version with the tray card and the jewel case we'll probably just charge the old $12.99 price for it.

Sorry for the delay -- I just have to figure out how to implement the dual-format listing in our store.

Has there been an update so far about the "classic style" packaging of the new viridian sun ?

Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: Wanterkeelt on March 02, 2010, 03:55:34 AM
We don't yet have that option worked out, so our customers don't yet have the ability to purchase any version but the simplified packaging.

The design of the tray card (official name for the back cover, which goes inside the CD tray) is finished so very soon I'll make it available as a PDF download for those who wish to print it themselves.

Those customers who wish to purchase a "classic style" package in a jewel case will need to wait a bit longer, and the price will be slightly higher too (otherwise everyone will just buy the plastic case version and it would defeat the whole purpose of this change).  We lowered the price from the usual $12.99 to $10.99 for the simplified packaging and if somebody wants a version with the tray card and the jewel case we'll probably just charge the old $12.99 price for it.

Sorry for the delay -- I just have to figure out how to implement the dual-format listing in our store.

Has there been an update so far about the "classic style" packaging of the new viridian sun ?

I'll bump this one. One idea to overcome the "dual-format listing in the store" would be to simply buy via email and simply pay via Paypal after confirmation. I'm planning a Hypnos store order and it would be grat if I could include the new Viridian Sun "classic style"
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: mgriffin on March 02, 2010, 11:52:04 AM
Wanterkeelt
You're right -- we need to make a way for people like yourself who really want the new CDs but also want a jewel case and tray card, to get what they want.

If you're ready to order now, go ahead and order through our store, and just order the regular Infinite In All Directions listing, but then Paypal an extra $2 to mg (at) hypnos.com and we'll send you the tray card and jewel case.  Or if you prefer to pay by credit card instead of paypal, just email us after your order is placed and we'll adjust your credit card charge by the price difference and send you the version you want.

Sorry about the delay.  It's been difficult to find a simple way of keeping everyone happy!
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: Wanterkeelt on March 02, 2010, 02:04:40 PM
Hi,

that's a great solution. Very easy. Thanks

Thumbs up



Wanterkeelt
You're right -- we need to make a way for people like yourself who really want the new CDs but also want a jewel case and tray card, to get what they want.

If you're ready to order now, go ahead and order through our store, and just order the regular Infinite In All Directions listing, but then Paypal an extra $2 to mg (at) hypnos.com and we'll send you the tray card and jewel case.  Or if you prefer to pay by credit card instead of paypal, just email us after your order is placed and we'll adjust your credit card charge by the price difference and send you the version you want.

Sorry about the delay.  It's been difficult to find a simple way of keeping everyone happy!
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: tcplugin on March 20, 2010, 04:19:31 AM
Hi Mike,
The preview sounds promising, congrats. I ordered a copy, and will let you know what my thoughts are once I have listened to it a few times.
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: tcplugin on May 17, 2010, 11:04:39 AM
Hi Mike,
I have been listening to Viridian Sun a few times now and I'm really impressed with what you have achieved. It's also interesting to see that you guys have been using guitar as well. As far as I know, this is not very common in the ambient scene. And that's what I like about "Infinite In All Directions": the way you guys use guitars is functional, it serves the compositions, it sounds refreshing to my ears. Very well done, definitely one of my favorite CD's at the moment.
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: mgriffin on May 17, 2010, 11:08:11 AM
Thanks very much for the comment.  That album was a lot of fun to make, a very enjoyable and easy approach to music-making.  I think Infinite in all Directions is the best Viridian Sun album, and I'm not one of those people who always says the new album is the best, just because.
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: tcplugin on May 17, 2010, 12:31:28 PM
That album was a lot of fun to make, a very enjoyable and easy approach to music-making.

I think the way you recorded this album is close to the way I recorded mine, if I'm well informed. For me, the benefit of recording and improvising live in the studio is that the result is pure and unpredictable. You never know up front how your piece will develop itself, it depends on the atmosphere and the magic of the moment. What's your opinion about this?

Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: mgriffin on May 17, 2010, 12:51:41 PM
I agree live improvisation is completely different from composing in advance, and I find it more fun.  Of course it depends on either doing it yourself, or collaborating with someone in tune with your way of doing things.  I can't imagine improvising with strangers.
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: tcplugin on May 18, 2010, 04:22:06 PM
I agree live improvisation is completely different from composing in advance, and I find it more fun.  Of course it depends on either doing it yourself, or collaborating with someone in tune with your way of doing things.  I can't imagine improvising with strangers.

Definitely more fun, and for me also also very creative and productive, it consumes less time. I also think this formula is very usefull live on stage. I have done a few live shows last year and although it's impossible to reproduce your studio improv's for 100%, it is possible to re-create a similar athmosphere live using certain themes. Anyway, that's something I want to work on for 2010-2011.
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: Hypnagogue on June 10, 2010, 01:39:46 PM
Included in my next "to buy" list--where it's been sitting for a while now, waiting for my wallet to get itself in order....
Title: Re: CD release: Viridian Sun - Infinite In All Directions
Post by: mgriffin on June 10, 2010, 01:43:27 PM
Included in my next "to buy" list--where it's been sitting for a while now, waiting for my wallet to get itself in order....

We sent you a promo copy some time ago and it came back to us undeliverable.  Spare your wallet, and PM me or Lena your new address!