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Title: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: petekelly on June 14, 2010, 01:35:48 AM

I know that there probably isn't a great deal of interest here regarding the world cup, but I thought I'd start a thread anyway.

Watched the Germany / Australia last night - wow ! the Germans looked impressive.
I look forward to seeing the really good teams and players showing off their talent, am always keen to see Brazil, Holland and the like.

I know football isn't to everyone's taste, but its a massive global cultural event nonetheless.
People go a bit mad over here when England are in it, but that doesn't usually last beyond the opening round :)

cheers
Pete
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: APK on June 14, 2010, 05:21:07 AM
I've watched most of the matches and really enjoy a good game.
I'm in Canada, but I'm from England, so grew up with footie.
Shame about the keeper fumble in the England/USA match  :(
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: petekelly on June 14, 2010, 06:15:12 AM
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Shame about the keeper fumble in the England/USA match

Ouch  - you're not joking there !
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: Mikeyboy on June 14, 2010, 06:41:00 AM
Well I've watched nearly all the games so far, but I'm English as well - is there a pattern here??  ;D

England looked fairly average, as expected, and Germany looked excellent, which I didn't expect.

And I'm loving the vuvuzelas!
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: APK on June 14, 2010, 09:10:51 AM
Yep, Germany looked very good (as usual). Excellent strikers, working very well together. But their defense was perhaps not tested much in that game.

Looking forward to seeing Italy today.
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: judd stephens on June 14, 2010, 06:24:44 PM

And I'm loving the vuvuzelas!

Yeah, ambient lovers take note!  It's like one long drone-fest for a couple hours with those things.  As one of the few "Americans" to post, and I use that in quotes because my wife who's from South America doesn't understand why we USA'ans claim ownership of 2 whole continents, I've been enjoying what little I've seen so far.  Paraguay is on vs. Italy, and the former just went up 1-0.

  This is on the Spanish channel and not sure how live this game really is, but I often prefer the spanish announcers.  With them, when there's a goal, you know it whether you're in the room or not...   

2002 was the first year I ever watched a World Cup and surprisingly I was enthralled, especially with Brazil's play- just amazing.  In '-06 the France vs. Italy game was one of the few games I caught, and for people who like drama infused with their sports, it's definitely there, just in a different form.  Like in the form of headbutts to get you kicked out when the game is on the line, for example. 
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: Mikeyboy on June 15, 2010, 08:01:41 AM
Haha, yeah as organic a drone as one could wish for - natural reverb too :)

I think the World Cup is a fantastic global event, I can't think of anything else which gets people all over the world watching, even if your own team isn't involved. Love it.

Brazil are definitely great to watch but Spain are looking even better at the moment, can't wait to see them in action tomorrow. They've got some incredible players. England are looking very average in comparison! :(

And I agree, I loved Zidane's headbutt, one of the great, dramatic, sporting moments.
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: judd stephens on June 15, 2010, 11:32:44 AM
Watching right now, I see Brazil has a guy named Julio Cesar.   Julius Caesar! 

Is it me or are there less funky hairstyles this year?  Seems like it has gone out of fashion a bit.
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: APK on June 15, 2010, 12:21:28 PM
I'm watching the Brazil game too.
Half time. Korea Doing well.

Yep, for sure seems to be less crazy hair styles this time. ;D

Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: judd stephens on June 15, 2010, 12:44:17 PM
wow.  if you're watching I don't have to tell you why...

The announcers are blaming it on the goalkeeper, but Brazil just made an unbelievable cross-shot goal.  That was awesome.

 
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: phobos on June 15, 2010, 12:46:35 PM
England are looking very average in comparison! :(



When do we ever look anything else other than very average ;D
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: APK on June 15, 2010, 01:18:31 PM
England are looking very average in comparison! :(



When do we ever look anything else other than very average ;D

Darts   ;D
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: phobos on June 15, 2010, 01:48:33 PM
England are looking very average in comparison! :(



When do we ever look anything else other than very average ;D

Darts   ;D


Nice one ;D
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: APK on June 17, 2010, 10:07:32 AM
France vs Mexico could be a good one today.
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: Mikeyboy on June 18, 2010, 01:34:28 AM
It certainly was! Things are hotting up nicely - Spain losing, Argentina coming into form, France as good as out.

No idea what to expect of England tonight, they _should_ win easily but Algeria will be hard to breakdown and England are always susceptible on the break. I'm nervous!!
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: APK on June 19, 2010, 06:15:10 PM
That England vs Algeria match sure was pitiful.

Cameroon vs Denmark was enjoyable today.
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: petekelly on June 20, 2010, 06:43:12 AM
I'm getting more into this World Cup now, there's been some dreadful shooting, but either a lack of initial nerves or circumstance are making for more open games.

The South American teams in general are looking good, making most of the European teams look jaded (apart from Holland).
God knows why England have been so bad - still we are still world leaders in Darts (and gurning)  ;)
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: Mikeyboy on June 21, 2010, 01:51:30 AM
Yeah it's getting interesting now! England, France and Italy have been shown up, Brazil look strong but as usual, Spain now have great pressure on them to perform. Loving it :)

Pub sports - the British rule, indeed!
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: phobos on June 21, 2010, 08:02:02 AM
That England vs Algeria match sure was pitiful.


I couldn't have put it better myself, pitiful indeed :(
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: Seren on June 22, 2010, 05:57:28 AM
.......there's been some dreadful shooting,.....

now giving the players guns would add a certain excitement to the game!! ;D
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: Seren on June 22, 2010, 06:04:18 AM
I alwyas thought that football might become interesting if there was three teams and two balls.

I occasionally wondered if there should be three or two goals, but settled for the three as the game would become too defensive if there were only two.

Mind you the inclusion of motorbikes and spikes on body armour..........
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: hdibrell on June 22, 2010, 01:12:18 PM
Now, that would be fun to watch. That and full contact golf.   :D
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: APK on June 22, 2010, 06:03:11 PM
Big day for England coming up.
Be nice to see them hit good form like a number of other countries have recently.
Time to play Joe.
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: Antdude on June 22, 2010, 08:31:16 PM
Now, that would be fun to watch. That and full contact golf.   :D

Now, there was a missed opportunity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA97kzai-Ew
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: judd stephens on June 22, 2010, 08:44:24 PM
Too bad England couldn't have played France...  that might have helped them get back to winning form ;)
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: hdibrell on June 22, 2010, 08:50:03 PM
Now, that would be fun to watch. That and full contact golf.   :D

Now, there was a missed opportunity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NA97kzai-Ew
That's what I'm talking about!!
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: APK on June 23, 2010, 10:56:32 AM

That was better from England :)

And good to see the USA get through, they deserved it. Great game to watch.
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: abasio on June 28, 2010, 12:58:55 AM
I am so very ashamed to be English today.

Go Japan!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: Mikeyboy on June 28, 2010, 01:22:58 AM
Haha, England were bloody abysmal! I'm now an honourary Ghanaian (sp?!) so bring on Uruguay... :)
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: phobos on June 28, 2010, 04:30:52 AM
Haha, England were bloody abysmal!


Abysmal with a capital A, absolute disgrace, its about time the overrated, overpaid, egotistical lot were sacked. These prats get thousands of pounds a week and all they can do is imitate a bunch of schoolboys kicking a ball around in the playground! >:( There must be other players out there who would give "their all" for the honour to play for their country.
You have to feel sorry for the fans who spent thousands of pounds getting there to watch those 4 matches
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: petekelly on June 28, 2010, 06:13:41 AM

I've learned never to expect anything from England at the World Cup, so I'm not totally surprised by their pretty dreadful performances, nowadays I
just enjoy the event.

David, they could have played 'the Boro' instead of the England 11 and they probably wouldn't have been so ineffective :)

Pete
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: APK on June 28, 2010, 06:47:02 AM
Sad couple of weeks for English soccer indeed.
But yep, lots of other good footie to still watch.
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: petekelly on July 07, 2010, 02:13:21 PM

'Paul' was right - those octopi they do not lie !

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/10521867.stm
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: michael sandler on July 07, 2010, 03:28:46 PM
And I'm loving the vuvuzelas!

Heh, me personally, that sound shreds my nerves so much I watch the matches with the sound muted.

As for favorite teams, I'm evaluating teams based on who has the coolest socks. The Swiss win there.

The other thing I like about football/soccer is the clock never stops. Even when a player is writhing on the ground in agony and the medics are coming to haul him off on the stretcher, the clock still runs. You must have cojones to play this game.

MS
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: judd stephens on July 11, 2010, 02:13:18 PM
maybe someone better acquainted with soccer can tell me:  how was that not offsides for the Spain player who scored the winning goal?  Looked like he was on 2 occasions, right before he received the pass, then right after he kicked the goal.  The Netherlands looked pretty ticked about it.
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: APK on July 11, 2010, 02:40:13 PM
On the replay you can see that there was in fact a dutch player between him and goal the moment the ball was passed to him (which is the only moment that counts). He looked offside shortly after, sure, but not the moment the ball was kicked. The dutch players won't see this until they see the replay ... so they went crazy at the linesman on the far side. But he was not offside. It was a fine goal.

Spain were the better team throughout. Good that it got settled in regular play.
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: judd stephens on July 11, 2010, 09:28:58 PM
I see what you're saying, but does the player have to actually touch the ball for an offside to occur, or can the ball be passed to him without his contacting it?

I ask because right before the assist, you see a pass that goes toward Iniesta, the Netherlands player sticks his leg out and intercepts it, and during that pass, Iniesta is clearly ahead of all the defenders... although he never touched the ball intended for him.   Again, just to clarify, I'm referring to the 1st pass attempt, not the one that led to the goal.
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: Mikeyboy on July 12, 2010, 01:42:19 AM
It is a bit confusing, yep. I believe the rule is that the player must be interfering with play to be counted offside. However, players are also not given offside until they've actually touched (or tried to touch) the ball, hence I guess why Iniesta wasn't offside in the first instance, although he may have been level with the defence anyway.

Actually, you have to have two men goal-side when the ball is played, not one - which is why Mexico had a goal given offside in the first game of the tournament when the goal keeper came off his line, even though there was still a defender between the attacker and the goal. Nothing's ever simple!

I wanted Holland to win last night before the game, but they were so dirty and cynical I'm glad Spain won. They're definitely the best team in the world and play the game the right way. And I'm happy Iniesta scored the winner, he's a great player.
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: petekelly on July 12, 2010, 02:20:50 AM
I'm glad that Spain won too, they looked like they always wanted to win the games they played - and with flair.
 
I enjoyed the World Cup very much, as a whole, but the amount of play-acting and 'gamesmanship' was lamentable.
I don't want to see players trying to pressurise the referee to get players booked / sent off, or lots of rolling around on the floor after a tackle
then getting up again once the ref was looking the other way. As well as the usual cynical fouling.

I'm not a great sports fan, but this event is a one off and even though there's a lot of it that is very 'corporate', I believe its for the 'people'
primarily.   

Who'd have thought that a psychic Octopus would play such a part in it all ?

(http://www.cool-smileys.com/images/octupus.gif) (http://www.cool-smileys.com/the-octopus-smiley)

Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: Scott M2 on July 12, 2010, 09:25:38 AM
Wow! Paul, the psychic Octopus, is more magical than a glittery Unicorn!
Title: Re: World Cup anyone ?
Post by: APK on July 12, 2010, 01:11:20 PM
Hey ... nothing is more magical than a glittery unicorn !