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Title: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on December 22, 2010, 10:04:08 AM
This deserves its own new topic.

Usually each year when I get my Christmas bonus I spring for at least one fancy new bottle I've never tried. This year I believe it will be Lagavulin 16 yr in the scotch category and the new Maker's 46 bourbon.

My usual favorites are Glenlivet and Laphroaig among scotches (sort of polar opposites actually), and Maker's Mark and Bulleit. I'm also kind of into rye lately.

Always in small quantities, of course.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Wayne Higgins on December 22, 2010, 10:07:02 AM
I don't do scotch.  Something about that peat moss taste I just can't deal with.  At our house, our choices are either Stolichnaya Vodka, Jameson's Whiskey, or Bombay Saphire Gin.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on December 22, 2010, 10:08:24 AM
Glenlivet is great for people who don't like peat. I've known many people who said "I hate scotch" until they tried Glenlivet. It's relatively affordable too, as good single malts go.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Bill Binkelman on December 22, 2010, 12:22:41 PM
For the holidays:

Scotch: Balvenie Double-Oak or Cragganmore or Dahlwinnie
Bourbon: Makers Mark or Jim Beam Black usually but may go high end and try Baker's or Booker's this year
Wine: Either Dry Creek Vineyards or Hogue Fume Blanc (dry sauvignon blanc)
After dinner: Either B and B (Benedictine and Brandy) or a good cognac, e.g. Courvoisier, Remy Martin or maybe Hennessey

Mike knows that I always drink my scotch (single malt, not blended, that is) straight. If I do drink a blended, it's always Dewars and I drink it on the rocks. Bourbon I drink one way or the other but the higher priced bourbons I usually drink straight up as well.

Happy (hic) Holidays!
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on December 22, 2010, 12:24:07 PM
Only bad people stick ice in their scotch.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on December 22, 2010, 03:34:28 PM
Today's haul.


(http://www.hypnos.com/forumpix/booze.jpg)
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: lena on December 22, 2010, 03:39:10 PM
Yaaaay!  :)
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on December 22, 2010, 04:19:46 PM
I already drank most of this stuff. Probably shouldn't drive home.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: SunDummy on December 22, 2010, 07:07:13 PM
(http://www.forpeatsake.com/Images/Bottles/Red_Breast/Red_Breast_Red_Breast_12_Year_Old_12_.jpg)

Yummmm.....

Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Scott M2 on December 23, 2010, 04:30:08 PM
"and the clouds are full of wine, not whisky or rye".   D V Vliet

The problem with the Glenlivet is that it goes down so smoothly, your glass is empty in a flash!
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: jblock on December 23, 2010, 05:11:18 PM
Count me in as a fan of Glenlivet, really smooth.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Hypnagogue on December 24, 2010, 04:16:34 PM
Not a whisky guy much, but on board with the Bourbonites. I'm only a couple years into it. Got my start two years ago when my sister brought me a bottle of Basil Hayden as a Thanksgiving gift. This year I gifted myself with a Russell's Reserve 10-year old bottle. Tasty.

And only taken straight. Ever.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on December 24, 2010, 05:17:06 PM
Irish is probably the one big gap in my experience, which I'll have to remedy.

We've sampled the Ardbeg and the Maker's 46. Both very nice.

Ardbeg is like a slightly more restrained version of Laphroaig (both Islay single malts so the similarity is no big surprise). Smoky and peaty as hell, compared to just about any other scotch on Earth... except Laphroaig.

The Maker's 46 seems a little more spicy and flavorful than plain old Maker's Mark.  A nice little change of pace, and a very fine bourbon.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Bill Binkelman on December 24, 2010, 05:24:45 PM
Here's the line-up I went with for tonight and tomorrow (well, obviously, not all of it will be consumed by then)  ::)

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/billbink/makers_mark-1.jpg) (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/billbink/unbranded-benedictine-bb-brandy--benedictine-70cl-bottle-1.jpg) (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/billbink/Dry-Creek-2009-Fume-Blanc-Sauvignon-Blanc.gif) (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/billbink/260px-Balvenie_Whisky_Doublewood_12_years_old-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on December 24, 2010, 10:08:52 PM
I came mighty close to buying the Balvenie instead of Ardbeg.  Ah, so many delightful beverages, so little time.

The Glenlivet is calling to me from the next room...
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Ein Sophistry on December 24, 2010, 11:34:24 PM
Still haven't delved into scotch much, but I love me some of this:
(http://www.drinkhacker.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/knob-creek-bourbon.jpg)

*Edit: didn't catch the post that spawned this thread until now. Kudos, Wayne; I like your taste.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: doombient on December 25, 2010, 04:38:16 AM
Irish is probably the one big gap in my experience, which I'll have to remedy.

We've sampled the Ardbeg and the Maker's 46. Both very nice.


Irish whisky is not really a gap you need to remedy. Never been a fan of Irish stuff (but Iīve never been a huge fan of Bourbons, either) as they are very one-dimensional.

Ardbeg is a very good choice, probably the most interesting of the Islay bunch. Iīd also give a Caol Ila a try. A cask-strength Talisker is also wonderful, and for cold winter nights (to go with a good cigar) Iīd recommend a Balvenie Double Wood.

Stephen
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: michinoku on December 31, 2010, 02:04:00 PM
to be clear, it's generally the highland scotches that have less of the peaty flavor, right? I recently had an immensely peaty beverage at a bar in NYC, and I can see why those flavors are so derisive. Still glad to sample them every once in awhile.

and as far as I'm concerned, ice is fine if you can only afford blended scotch. Johnnie Red is perfect in that regard, with a cube of ice. Much more drinkable that way. I tend to only be able to afford single malts on big sale days.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: doombient on December 31, 2010, 05:40:03 PM
Islay malts are considered to be "undrinkable" by many because of their excessively strong "peatiness" so you really have to like them (I do, in particular Ardbeg, Lagavulin, and Laphroaig Cask Strength). You might want to try some Speyside or Highland malts, e. g. a Balvenie Double Wood which is fruity and sweet by comparison. A Macallan might also suit your needs.

If you want both sweetness *and* peatiness, you might want to try a Talisker (Isle of Skye).

Stephen
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on December 31, 2010, 06:47:04 PM
Balvenie seems to do weird variations having to do with wood casking. Aren't they the ones with the "Carribean Cask" variety that's aged in rum casks, too? My recollection, last time I checked out the various Balvenie offerings, is that they were differentiated primarily by cask options, rather than by age or "recipe."
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: doombient on January 01, 2011, 03:32:47 AM
Yeah, thatīs right. Seems to be some kind of fad, and frankly, I think some manufacturers/distillers/distributors go over the top a bit. A bit like Grande Latte plus hundreds of possible flavours.... whatīs the point of all this? After all, itīs only coffee and milk.

Iīd recommend the plain Balvenie Double Wood which spent another two or three years in a sherry cask. This is something I can do with very well, the rest would be a bit too posh for me. The Balvenie, plus a nice cigar, and Stevieīs fine.

Stephen
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Hypnagogue on January 01, 2011, 09:00:04 AM
Here's the line-up I went with for tonight and tomorrow (well, obviously, not all of it will be consumed by then)  ::)

(http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/billbink/makers_mark-1.jpg) (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/billbink/unbranded-benedictine-bb-brandy--benedictine-70cl-bottle-1.jpg) (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/billbink/Dry-Creek-2009-Fume-Blanc-Sauvignon-Blanc.gif) (http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l92/billbink/260px-Balvenie_Whisky_Doublewood_12_years_old-2.jpg)

I didn't know Dry Creek was still around. The Fume Blanc was always a favorite.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on January 04, 2011, 11:39:55 AM
I was a good boy over the holidays, and enjoyed a variety of new scotch and bourbon stuff, without going completely overboard on any of them. Well, our bottle of Glenlivet is half gone, but Lena and I both sipped away at it over a few nights, so that's pretty conservative.

Maybe I'll have to go buy another few bottles to try. You know, give myself a reward for showing such restraint during December?
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on December 16, 2013, 09:48:48 AM
Found this thread buried in the archives......thought I would bring it back to life, tis the season!

I have been enjoying single malts scotch's these past several months.....never really got into them until I picked up a mix pack of small bottles that were Craggenmore 12, Talisker 10 & Lagavulin 16.  Well that change everything.  Its hard to image just sitting with a dram and sniffing and sipping for a half hour.  Such a small amount of liquid produces such aromas and flavor.

My list in particular order though I do tend to favor the Islay malts with their heavy peat smoke.

(http://fastfood.ocregister.com/files/2011/07/balvenie.jpg) (http://www.robbieswhiskymerchants.com/images/products/large/1374587434Ardbeg_10.jpg) (http://sipology.files.wordpress.com/2011/06/lag.jpg)  (http://cdn4.masterofmalt.com/whiskies/p-1987/ardbeg-uigeadail-whisky.jpg)  (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-x6d9A_zhT9I/UNH68xUv7ZI/AAAAAAAAGao/ya8bWgKfJs8/s1600/Highland+Park+12yr.jpg) (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_7RJ9kf0mJfc/TGs9fM4TLjI/AAAAAAAAAWU/pudWQtrZlxk/s1600/Talisker+10yr.jpg) (http://indiamarketprice.in/wp-content/uploads/13623923326412/13623923451197.jpg)(http://www.blogcdn.com/www.luxist.com/media/2008/06/laph10.jpg) (http://www.whiskyshop.com/Content/Products/Zoom/laphroaig-triple-wood-bigge.gif) (http://www.scottishwhiskystore.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Dalwhinnie-15-Year-Old.jpg)
(http://www.shanghai9.cn/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/c067b99fa85d58571b23096d27427518/c/a/caol_ila_12_year_old_single__islay_malt_scotch_whisky_1.jpg)

Ardbeg Ten, Lagavulin & Laphroiag Triple Wood really stand out.  They are all great whiskies.  The Islay ones seem to manage to bottle the smell and almost taste of the Ocean!

Still much more to discover.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on December 16, 2013, 12:14:11 PM
What a great post, Julio. Thanks for bumping this back to the top.

For a long time I've favored Glenlivet as my main Scotch, with Laphroaig as an alternate when I'm in a mood for something more exotic.

This past year or so I've been trying to nudge myself out of my comfort zone, and have discovered many new favorites along the way. Ardbeg in particular is something I now rate very near the top of my list.

The Lagavulin 16 is another special one, as Lena and I showed up with a bottle of that to a room party at the NecronomiCon convention in Providence, and found that another guest (one of my favorite weird authors in fact, Michael Cisco) arrived with a bottle of the exact same thing, by chance. So the guests in that room party (which included many other of my favorite writers) consumed two bottles of that fine Scotch in short order, along with several others. Here's the mad genius Cisco offering his endorsement:

(http://griffinwords.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/cisco.jpg?w=584&h=436)
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on December 17, 2013, 06:46:29 PM
Sounds like a Fantastic evening Mike.....love the photograph and story.

You might like to try Caol Ila Islay malt.  It somewhere between Laphroaig and Lagavulin in taste and not as hard one your wallet as Lagavulin.  It is my current dram.

Writers always seem to have great taste in whiskies....hey maybe ambient musician do to.  :)
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: | broken harbour | on December 17, 2013, 07:12:55 PM
How the hell did I miss this?

Julio, we have nearly identical taste in Scotch, good man!
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on December 18, 2013, 07:25:46 AM
Excellent Blake......this might be a good place to exchange whisky tasting notes,  theres just so much to discover in a sniff and sip.  I still do enjoy wine but its so easy to finish a nice bottle in an evening that it actually cost way more than good scotch.   A bottle of scotch in an evening by yourself....that there would be a problem.

Still working out my preference of a splash of water or not.....the higher alcohol whiskies for sure and thus far whiskies that hit around 56% are harder to drink for me as the alcohol seems to get in the way, which is not what the experts say.

Over time Glenlivet was my go to once in a while......need to go back and taste it again.

I did not realize that american bourbon casks played such an important roll in the initial maturation of Scottish single malt whisky.  Laphroaig use Makers Mark Bourbon cask.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on December 18, 2013, 01:50:18 PM
Every time I glance back through this topic, and all the pictures, it makes me happy.

I'll definitely have to try Caol Ila soon. It was one of the names mentioned by the many Scotch fanatics I met in Providence. I've been working through the list of great recommendations I received.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on December 19, 2013, 05:47:01 AM
Im curious if you would share that "list" Mike.....suggestions from aficionados!  Recommendation go a long way.   Hope I dont sound too thirsty  :)
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on December 19, 2013, 06:25:03 AM
The Laphroaig story.....

.Laphroaig Distillery Tour - Kilbride Stream (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efXnDlqkWG0#ws)   Laphroaig Distillery Tour - Peat Cutting (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1tEjPW01OQ#ws)  Laphroaig Distillery Tour - Malt Floors (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9YU0oALmbTU#ws)  Laphroaig Distillery Tour - Kiln Fire (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYK8jzyscL0#ws)

Laphroaig Distillery Tour - Mash House (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAjLW4OENfw#ws)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCBfzAA8Fpw#t=21 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCBfzAA8Fpw#t=21)  Laphroaig Distillery Tour - Cooperage (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZPUV9p-GJw#ws)   
Laphroaig Distillery Tour - Warehouse (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vf8z1lw_j6Q#ws)  Laphroaig Distillery Tour - FOL (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqfrnZfYHVg#ws)

Could not find a complete video...just theses little ones that came from the website.


As a Friend of Laphroaig this is what you get....makes a Laphroaig dram that much more special

(http://laphroaig.com/uploads/certificates/19122013125054.pdf)
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on December 19, 2013, 07:38:57 AM
Those Laphroaig videos are fantastic! I haven't gotten through the last few yet, but enjoyed seeing the process so far.

Julio, you'll be pleased to know I took your advice and picked up a bottle of Caol Ila last night, and gave it a try. I thought it was fantastic, and Lena really liked it too. I rank that up there with Ardbeg as one of my other recent favorite discoveries.

You also asked about the Scotch recommendations that came from the whiskey fanatics Lena and I met at NecronomiCon. Aside from the discussions that happened at the room party I mentioned, where I only made note of one recommendation (Balvenie Carribean Cask, which I believe is aged in Carribean rum casks), the notes I made actually came from a few weeks later, when a book reviewer we met at the convention tagged a few of us on Facebook and asked for Scotch recommendations.

I don't remember what I recommended to him, but a few others spoke up:

Ilan Lerman, a horror writer from Scotland, suggested Aberlour 16 year, which I haven't tried yet.

Our own Ian Boddy (this is the fun thing about Facebook -- the cross-pollination of your friends from different realms) spoke up and suggested Isle of Jura 16. I believe I've had the younger Isle of Jura and liked it quite well but haven't tried the 16 yet.

The horror writer John Langan, whose excellent collection The Wide Carnivorous Sky I just finished reading, suggested Auchtentoshan. That's next on my list to try.

The room party we attended in Providence was John Langan's room, which he shared with perhaps my favorite active fiction writer, Laird Barron, whose books I strongly recommend for anyone interested at all in weird, dark fiction. Laird's recommendation was Glenrothes. Now, because of my extremely high regard for Laird's writing, this was the first of the recommendations I tried, and while it was a high-quality scotch and had pleasant enough qualities, I didn't really love it. Probably worth a try, but to my taste it was not nearly as distinguished and "deep" as some of the others we're discussing.

Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on December 19, 2013, 02:13:53 PM
Excellent recommendations Mike....Glad your enjoying the Caol Ila.

I have had my eye on Aberlour 16 and Auchtentoshan.  Belvenie  Carribean Cask should be interesting with the rum influence.  Belvenie make a peated whiskey but its about $130 so that's gone to the bottom of the list

Oban is another I want to try.

Below is a flavor map that is handy to have on my iPhone when Im starring unknowingly at the well stocked whisky section at the liquor store.  Really helps get a idea of contrasting flavors.

Auchtentoshan is the complete opposite or the Islay malts.....hopefully not to light and delicate though that could be good nevertheless.





(http://seattle.eater.com/uploads/Single_Malt_Whisky_Flavor_Map.png)
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on December 19, 2013, 04:01:46 PM
Great, now I have to buy all the examples in that chart so I can compare for myself.  ;)
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on December 19, 2013, 04:50:58 PM
Tell me about it.....the list keeps getting longer! ;D
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: | broken harbour | on December 20, 2013, 07:18:16 AM
Personally for myself, I prefer Islay scotch's and drink those almost exclusively.  However when I don't feel like assaulting my senses I have always enjoyed the various Highland Park offerings, the easy to find 12 and 15 year.  I like the 15 year as it sort tastes of green apples to me.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-P_QLMMkHvXs/T5oirfZ2zeI/AAAAAAAAAa4/GE3eYuvkDlc/s1600/highlandpark_15years.jpg)

My regular go to scotches tend to be:

Laphroaig 10yr
Ardbeg 10yr
Ardbeg Ugedall
Lagavulin 16yr

If you can bring yourself to try a blended scotch (I can I'm not a snob!) the Big Peat is a great choice, it literally tastes like a tour of Islay.

(http://ouidram.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/DL_BigPeat_Tube_for-web.jpg)
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: | broken harbour | on December 20, 2013, 07:19:01 AM
My absolute favourite was some Ardbeg Alligator I tried once, it was incredible, but ultra rare, I can't bring myself to spend $300+ on a bottle....
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Bill Binkelman on December 20, 2013, 07:02:15 PM
For me, it's still a toss up between Cragganmore and Balvenie DoubleWood. I'm a Highland and Speyside man, and not that fond of peat. There are some great lower priced Scotches out there, such as the undated McClellands, which I've always enjoyed. Last time I bought it, it was about $18 bucks...for a single malt, that's pretty good. It's not dated, but I'd imagine it's a 7-9 year old Scotch. A lot smoother than you'd think, IMO.

http://www.mcclellands.co.uk/ (http://www.mcclellands.co.uk/)
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Post by: saulstokes on December 20, 2013, 08:23:03 PM
I personally have found Bulliet Bourbon Frontier Whiskey to be great right before bed. I think of it as a reward for making it through another day alive!

This is the crazy part. I've been doing this for almost a year now and I have not had ONE SINGLE COLD. I use to deal with 3-4 colds a year so I'm of the opinion a tiny bit of this stuff a day is sort of killing off germs.  Plus I sleep way better!
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on December 20, 2013, 10:04:04 PM
I really did enjoy the Highland Park 12, some smoke but not Islay strength. I have to try the 15 yr and the 18 yr most be really special.  I do tend to favor Island malts, well the UK is and island so that would be Isle malts I guess.  Talisker from the Isle of Sky was the exception.  Theres one from the Isle of Orkney is it Skye called Scapa that is intriguing and pricy. And Jura is on the list.

Have to try Big Peat...thanks for bring that up Blake.  It s got to be a blast mixing Ardbeg, Caol Ila, Bowmore & Port Ellen spirits.

Saul I cant get a picture of Clint Eastwood stand at a saloon bar out of my head....Bullet Bourbon Frontier Whiskey. I love the name.  I will look for that one.

I picked up a bottle of Lagavulin yesterday for the holidays......Finishing Caol Ila and enjoying Laghroaig Triple Wood.  I like to have a few bottles going at a time, sort have my own little tastings. Definitely a lot of peat right now.

Ardbeg do some wonderfully unusual distilling from what Ive read where they take current production spirit and mix it with their much older stock to create some extraordinary Whiskey...I think the "Alligator" that you mentioned Blake may have been such a bottling.

One thing Im finding is that the older malts are certainly smoother but I notice I miss that untamed sometimes in your face complex wildness that an Ardbeg 10yr has of a Laphroaig.  It can be such an event. I wonder if age mellows intensity....hey Im almost 50yrs old, bet Im not as exciting as when I was 25.  Ah but so much wiser!  ;)

This could turn into a Whiskey, currently drinking thread....
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: | broken harbour | on December 21, 2013, 01:36:28 PM
A number of years ago I bought one of the first bottlings from Kilchoman, which was established in Islay in (I think 2006)  The first bottle that I bought was undated but is rumoured to be only 3 yrs old.  It's incredible, definitely in your face, but one of the finest scotch's I've ever had the pleasure to drink, I've had it it on my shelf for about 3 years now and it's definitely a 'special occasion only' type scotch due to it's rarity and cost.

So yes, I think age does tend to smooth out the rough edges in a whiskey, I personally like mostly 10-15 year old malts versus the really old stuff as they tend to be a little more in your face.
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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on December 21, 2013, 05:31:55 PM
Searched out the possible health benefits of drinking whiskey moderately....this was the best that I found.  No Mayo Clinic endorsements though..... ::)

This is all about the benefits hiding away in your alcohol cabinet, now I am not talking about little umbrella drinks laden with sugary syrups and artificial colors, I am talking about 1 serving (strait up or on the rocks) per day taken like any other vitamin to benefit from the medicinal properties it brings to the table. Whiskey has been used as medicine for hundreds of years in fact before chemists began pumping out medications tailored to your ailment whiskey was the go to cure all everybody reached for, moonshine was infused with anything from peppermint to opium and marketed at a miracle cure and in prohibition the only person who could legally get alcohol was through a doctor. It has been scientifically proven that beverages like whiskey, scotch and bourbon contain no fat and very low carbs in fact the 0.04 grams of carbohydrates a shot of whiskey does contain is immediately turned to energy one it is digested. I am sure you are thinking of your favorite brand fondly at this point and daydreaming about pouring yourself a victory shot just to spite the nay sayers but we have only just begun, you see whiskey is no one trick pony. Along with not adding inches to your waist line, whiskeys have been shown to aid in prevention of dementia and stroke by as much as 50%, it has shown to lower chances of developing diabetes between 30 and 40% and in cancer studies whiskeys high amounts of the antioxidant ellagic acid have been shown to destroy cancer cells. Now lets talk about heart health, whiskey decreases blood clots and increases good cholesterol. Additional benefits of whiskey are being looked in to by scientists looking to make a truly great discovery in the world of science as you read this so who knows what will be the next positive reason to toast to good health will be. The best thing about whiskey is that it is easy to make, a stove top still is an simple setup for distilling moonshine whiskey in small amounts for medical purposes. Remember that these benefits are only gained through moderate use (1-2 shots a day), you do not want to form a dependance on alcohol, the inability to function without a drink in a grid down situation is like signing your own death warrant, enjoy the health benefits of whiskey in moderation. /i]


Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on December 21, 2013, 05:39:34 PM
I have read about Kilchoman......good to see a new distillery when most date back to the 1800's.  Sounds like it will be hard to source.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on December 22, 2013, 01:14:04 PM
Bulliet bourbon is really good. When it was first introduced in our area, it was much cheaper and Lena and I drank it all the time. Then it became popular and the price rose by nearly double, so we don't buy it as often. As much as I love Scotch, I probably drink bourbon more often, especially alongside beer. Scotch with beer doesn't really work -- but a bourbon and a beer is lovely!

I'm also very much into rye whiskey lately. It's very similar to bourbon, just a bit spicier, with more of a sizzle. Rye seems to be making a comeback, after several decades where most people considered it old fashioned and unhip.
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Post by: mgriffin on December 22, 2013, 01:15:13 PM
Oh, and... Highland Park. I've always heard good things about it, but the name doesn't really seem exotic or Scottish to me. "Highland Park" sounds like an affluent suburb of Los Angeles or something!
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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on December 22, 2013, 01:37:16 PM
. "Highland Park" sounds like an affluent suburb of Los Angeles or something!

 ;D
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Post by: mgriffin on December 24, 2013, 11:00:00 AM
Just picked this up yesterday, and tried it last night. Very nice!

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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on December 26, 2013, 04:28:38 PM
Got a bottle of Ardbeg Uigeadail as a Xmas gift....had it before and was not that keen, strange as I love Ardbeg 10....tried it hoping and took it back.

I got this in its place.  I thought of trying the Highland Park 15 as I enjoyed the 12yr but went for the Aberlour 16.....my favorite non Islay malt so far.  It has a complexity to it as a Lagavulin but no peat and for me has more depth the a Belvenie 12 and in some way the Highland Park 12 that does have a little more smoke.  You wont miss the smoke and the ocean in this one

(http://www.merchantsfinewine.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/aberlour-16-year-old-single-malt-scotch-whisky.png)
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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on December 28, 2013, 07:02:42 AM
Some thoughts on whiskey glasses.  Spending such crazy amounts of money on this delicious liquid I thought I would look into improving the experience if possible by getting dedicated glass

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Started with this as it was already in house.

(http://www.crystalclassics.com/images/41460R.jpg)
then moved to this, a Riedel spirit glass....its about 3+ inches high big improvement on the nose over the rocks glass.

(http://www.wineware.co.uk/content/images/thumbs/0009980_schott-zwiesel-official-port-glass-set-of-6.jpeg)
then tried this....in house port glass.  a bigger glass gave the whiskey more room.

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then this...a Glencairn nosing copita or sherry glass. Smaller than the port glass but intenser on the nose

(https://distinguishedimports.com/shop/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/glencairn-glass-set-of-4.jpg)
and lastly this...The Glencairn "official" whiskey glass. Probably the best.


Hey.... its your dram and a glass is a glass is a glass?  Personally the rocks glass is out as it does not concentrate the vapor coming off the whiskey.  None of these glasses actually alters the taste....it does change slightly from glass to glass but this is because each one delivers the liquid to the palette differently due to their individual shapes.

Some glass lore Ive discovered along the way.....enjoy.
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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on January 10, 2014, 10:31:56 PM
(http://ei.isnooth.com/multimedia/2/0/b/image_2883369_full.jpeg)

I have been enjoying this one in the new year.... I was expecting more of an impact from the rum casks, its there and adds a spice to the taste just subtle which is not a bad thing. I find the nose is not there as Ive become used to in the malts Ive been drinking recently and for me 50% of the enjoyment is in the smell.  Perhaps coming in after such intense and dynamic malts as Lagavulin 16 & Aberlour 16 it could seem a bit well manner but certainly not shy.  Definitely worth exploring.  :)
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Post by: thirdsystem on January 20, 2014, 03:43:19 PM
What a great topic.

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Ahh...................Talisker.............made on the western side of Skye, nectar of the gods  8) . Not too peaty but with sufficient to hint at its Island origin.

One of my favourite Islay malts......Bunnahabhain (pronounced Buna-hah-ven)

(http://www.onlinecava.com/images/products/1656.jpg)

Last time I bought this islay malt it had been matured in sherry casks. One of the most beautiful whiskys I have ever consumed. Stunning.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on January 20, 2014, 04:00:22 PM
Thanks for contributing, thirdsystem.

I had meant to reply to Julio's post about glasses, and never got around to it -- busy lately!

Anyway I've never heard of Bunnahabhain.
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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on January 21, 2014, 07:08:07 AM
Yes thanks for joining in Thirdsystem......I have been looking at the Bunnahabhain 12, supposed to be non peat from what I understand.  Islay malt without peat :o  Thanks for the recommendation.

This one is very special.   The GlenDronach 15 was high recommended to me,  one of the greats but so was the price $90-100, so I went for the 12.....whats so interesting and enjoyable is that a given whiskey has such a diverse and complexed taste....I have not tasted one that is similar, in quality yes.....even the smoke is different in a peated malt. 

This is the crazy part. I've been doing this for almost a year now and I have not had ONE SINGLE COLD. I use to deal with 3-4 colds a year so I'm of the opinion a tiny bit of this stuff a day is sort of killing off germs.  Plus I sleep way better!

In the last six months since I have been seriously enjoy this whiskey trail I can say that I seem to have a better sense of well being.....cant actually put my finger on it.....a dram or 2 a night.  So easy to do more and how quick this stuff comes back to bite you!  Does not tolerate abuse.  Everything in moderation.

(https://www.weinquelle.com/onTEAM/viewer/images/s5439.jpg)
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Post by: thirdsystem on January 22, 2014, 07:24:22 AM
If you go for the Bunnahabhain 12 Julio I really hope you get a similar sherry oak matured dram. I scoofed that bottle about 4 years ago, so hopefully they have still been bottling from a similar quality of wood.

Definite strong hints of peatyness still but in a more restrained, rounded, gentle nature when compared with other Islays.

Amazing you mention Glendronach. Many, many years ago ( in fact in a different life it seems  ;)) I had a two week work attachment there and at it's sister distillery at the time Ardmore.

Picturesque wee distillery in the Aberdeenshire Hills...

(http://angelswhiskyclub.com/awc/images/glendronach-distillery.jpg)
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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on January 23, 2014, 05:31:12 AM
Ah...so there is some peat in the Bunnahabhain 12, perhaps in the way Talisker and Highland Park do.  Its up next.   

I have been to Scotland a few times when I lived in England from the age of about 5 - 22 before returning to America.  Camping in the Outer Hebrides was highlight.  I was either Lewis or Harris....seems another lifetime ago for sure.  What a privilege for me now that I have the memory of the wonderful landscape and people as I enjoy these malts today.

Thanks for the picture Thirdsystem...good to chat with someone really close to the subject.
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Post by: thirdsystem on January 23, 2014, 06:19:18 AM
Thanks for your nice post Julio. It is great to hear from other whisky lads as enthusiastic as myself on this magnificent alcoholic nectar  ;D

I see Auchentoshan was mentioned earlier in this thread. Now that is a very interesting one. What would be described as a light, lowland malt. It is triple distilled. I have been in the still house. We are talking magnificent here.....

(http://media-cdn.tripadvisor.com/media/photo-s/04/2c/a7/c3/auchentoshan-distillery.jpg)

This was a constituent part of one of the whisky blends I used to work on. I always liked the nose, and the taste  ;), on it. Sweet, light, delicate but refreshing. Have not tasted it for about 25 years. Will have to put that right  :)
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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on January 27, 2014, 06:42:47 PM
Hi Thirdsystem.....from what you say I take it you are or were in the distillery business, or better put craft. Actually Im coming to appreciate it as an art.

Went for the Bunnahabhain 12....no sherry oak, very pale like the Ardbeg 10.  Love the nose, found the taste a tad underwhelming.  Took it back and trade it for the Auchentoshan 12.  It is everything you said.....Im not accustomed to some much presence in a whiskey that as you suggested would be light.  It is so but not faint of heart.....mandarin, on that second inhale...oh yes, and candy toffee.

Its strange to be able to take back something you have committed to in ones purchases....Im not entirely comfortable with it....someone has to suck it up, most likely me when I go for a tasting and a good portion is what I returned. ;D :o  Still they keep telling me if you dont like it....whats a poor boy to do?
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Post by: thirdsystem on January 28, 2014, 05:30:33 AM
Hey Julio, that is very disappointing about the Bunnahbhain. That is why I stated I hoped they were still bottling from the same wood source as the one I enjoyed. Clearly not. This can be one of the issues with single malts in particular, particularly low volume bottlings, where the variance in the wooden cask can change the entire quality and overall experience of the dram. The Bunnahabain I consumed  ;D was utterly beautiful. More like an 18 year old, rounded, dripping with mature sherry overtones with a hint of peat. One of the best drams ever. It was going to be my next purchase but I will research further on that first.

Interestingly I was out on Burns night on Saturday there and saw they had Bunnahabain on their Whisky Shelf in the Pub. Was very tempted but stuck to pints of Tennants Ice Cold Lager  :o.

In a previous life I worked in the Whisky blending industry as a blender and quality controller. Paid for drinking whisky  ;D although as I am sure you know it is all done on the nose  ;).

Glad you liked the Auchentoshan, always fancied a bottle.
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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on January 30, 2014, 06:53:54 AM
Heres a little video on the Bunnahbhain 18...sounds closer to what you describe Thirdsystem

18YR OLD.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcAjIrH5uiQ#ws)

Picture of my current dram.....Auchentoshan 12, could be one of my favorites when no peat is desired, certainly up there with the Aberlour 16 and at a price point that will make me go back for more

(http://www.sherryswine.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Auchentoshan-12-year.jpg)
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Post by: thirdsystem on February 06, 2014, 01:18:04 PM
Heres a little video on the Bunnahbhain 18...sounds closer to what you describe Thirdsystem

18YR OLD.mp4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcAjIrH5uiQ#ws)


That sounds exactly like my dram Julio. Also can tell by the colour that has been in sherry wood.

Funnily enough it must be over 5 years since I scoofed that bottle of 12 year old, which tends to suggest the current 18year old Bunnahabhain is bottled from a similar quality of high class sherry oak. I will therefore have to check out the 18yo  ;D 8)
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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on March 24, 2014, 03:23:57 PM
Some recent drams...... :)

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I will keep going back to this one.....theres some much toffee and orange in this your think you can taste chocolate but thats in your head...Wow, and this is no dessert it has plenty of power on the nose and palette.




(http://www.liviko.ee/public/Media_Library/Jura/jura-10a.jpg)

This is an unusual one.....theres a beeswax sense to it that is intriguing and a little strange in a good way.....worth trying!




(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Gn2E0z5b88c/TdsjplUA8HI/AAAAAAAAADU/2hrs7Jka0Yw/s1600/Glenmorangie%25252010y%252520original%252520l.jpg)

At $29 I said to myself with a snob like tone.....you get what you pay for but I had seen ratings up at 93 points from whiskey magazines so......they are right, its quite amazing and you might ask yourself if there is some Gaelic magic going on that can put a bottle of $29 malt in the same range as a 94 point, $90 bottle of Lagavulin (Whiskey Advocates Magazine).  Only on way to find out ;) 
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Post by: thirdsystem on September 29, 2014, 12:40:42 PM
Just back from a short break in Highland Perthshire where I visited this place...........

(http://www.shubs.net/howard/scotland/pics/IMG_1539-Edradour-distillery.jpg)

The smallest distillery in Scotland where everything is hand made by the three distillery workers.

I purchased this........

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and thereafter partook of said amber nectar of the gods, at my holiday place, looking out over this landscape one afternoon in the late summer sun....

(http://www.atholl-estates.co.uk/images/main/Blair_Castle_from_A9_2.jpg)

Very pleasant indeed.


PS Julio .....this dram also tasted wonderful in the distillery tasting room  ;) 8)
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on September 29, 2014, 02:15:44 PM
Excellent thirdsystem.......I can only imagine. That last picture is beautiful!  Its been a few months since I had some Edradour in the house.  Have to change that.   Thanks for sharing
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Post by: mgriffin on September 29, 2014, 02:41:51 PM
Beautiful indeed.

I forgot to report in here about some very nice single malts I enjoyed in Boston at a convention this summer. Must dig through Facebook to find photos and details.
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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on September 29, 2014, 06:14:48 PM
Please do Mike...you and your fellow writers have great taste in single malts.  Look forward to it!
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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on September 29, 2014, 06:25:19 PM
(http://www.drinksupermarket.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/512x512/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/g/l/glenrothes-alba-reserve-speyside-single-malt-scotch-whisky-70cl.jpg)

My current dram.....lots of coconut and vanilla.  Glenmorangie in body but much superior on all other counts
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Post by: mgriffin on September 30, 2014, 05:06:24 PM
Well, here's a start.

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Post by: mgriffin on September 30, 2014, 05:10:14 PM
From ReaderCon, a genre fiction convention in Boston, MA, this past July. Here's a whisky lover's room party where we shared some special items before going up to a bigger, busier party in the room of one of the publishers at the convention.

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Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 01, 2014, 04:57:38 AM
Nice line up there Mike....the whisky I mean ;)

Aberlour 16 is a favorite.....Auchentoshan 12 is my go to malt and I had my eye on the triple wood but have not taken the plunge yet.  Did you like it?
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Post by: mgriffin on October 01, 2014, 07:52:34 AM
Definitely yes. To me, Auchentoshan 12 is good, but Three Wood is special. Definitely worth the extra money, so if you like Auchentoshan 12, definitely try Three Wood.
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Post by: thirdsystem on October 02, 2014, 02:46:17 PM
Glenrothes, quite a heavy whisky on the nose, almost 25 years since I tasted that one.

Aberlour a lighter dram and I seem to remember rather pleasant.

Glenfiddich also a lighter flavour but a nice easy malt to drink. Always liked it.

Auchentoshan was always one of my favourites. A light, lowland malt. The only one which is triple distilled I think. Never tried the three wood (which sounds fantastic) and therefore must endeavour to do so.
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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 02, 2014, 02:54:24 PM
Definitely yes. To me, Auchentoshan 12 is good, but Three Wood is special. Definitely worth the extra money, so if you like Auchentoshan 12, definitely try Three Wood.

Good to know Mike, thanks....locally its up in the $75 range.  Getting into the special occasion price range.  I sense just such an occasion coming really soon. ;D
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Post by: mgriffin on October 02, 2014, 03:04:32 PM
I definitely don't drink that kind of "special" stuff often. Usually buy a bottle when visiting friends who are single malt enthusiasts, and usually one or more of them will buy a nice bottle, and we'll all have a chance to try something unusual and special we wouldn't otherwise get to try.

Actually I think it was my friend Justin Steele (who appears in the 4-person photo above) who bought the Three Wood and I bought the Aberlour 16 year. Everyone in our group enjoyed both of these so much, both Justin and I bought ourselves a bottle of each later in the summer.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 02, 2014, 04:26:17 PM
Its true single malt whiskey is expensive.......Its defiantly a luxury in the scheme of things but one that is so spirited.....why do they call it spirits in the Scotland / UK?



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Post by: mgriffin on October 02, 2014, 04:27:52 PM
I don't mind buying an expensive bottle here and there because I only drink the good stuff occasionally. I like to have several different ones to alternate between, and I don't drink single male too often, so I might have bottles sitting on the shelf for years.

Quality over quantity!
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Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 03, 2014, 05:36:31 AM
For a while I had about four different malts going at one time.....it was a fun way to taste. 

Agreed.....quality over quantity.  A dram or 2, after that it ceases to be a benefit.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: APK on October 07, 2014, 06:15:42 PM
I'm not up on scotch at all (wine is more my thing), but what about non-Scottish whisky?
Any standouts from around the world ?
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 08, 2014, 04:45:32 AM
APK the Japanese produce single malts and I think blended whiskey and I have heard good things though I have not tried any myself.....good question?
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on October 08, 2014, 09:17:51 AM
It's not that you can't find good whiskeys other than from Scotland. It's just that 99% of the top-quality whiskey in the world comes from Scotland, so why not start there?

Probably the next great whiskey producer in the world is the USA, with bourbon and sourmash, though these are very different things from single malt. There are a few good Irish whiskeys though most of those are a notch or two below a good Scotch. And as Julio said, there are some Japanese producers as well.

As with wine, of course, 98% of the product produced worldwide is cheap, low-quality.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: thirdsystem on October 09, 2014, 11:45:23 AM
Being a Scot, it would be complete and utter sacrilege punishable by possible imprisonment if any other countries "whisky" product was consumed  :P  ;) I have covertly consumed the occasional Jack Daniels in a surreptitious manner. Very nice.

Rather than drinking three pints of beer at the theatre the other night, decided to go for three drams instead to reduce the need for requiring to go to the wee boys room  :-[  Like the other lads have mentioned I only usually have one whisky, maybe two, so this was unusual for me.

1) Jura. Long, long time since I had this ! Very, very nice indeed. I didn't get a look at the bottle but it was beautifully aged, clearly in sherry wood. Will definitely have to investigate this one further.

2) Highland Park, Orkneys finest. Enjoyed it but will have to give it another go.

3) Talisker. Definitely nectar of the gods, made in Skye form peat and girders ( ;)) this is my favourite of all whiskies, without a doubt.

Also enjoyed the play (dragged by wife) so was a very pleasant evening indeed.
Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 09, 2014, 04:22:29 PM
Ive never really warmed to bourbon....its really hard to pin point why.  Perhaps I have not tasted enough.  Jack Daniels & Coke seems to be the norm around here. Always seems a mixer maybe to its discredit.

Im going to have to revisit the Talisker.....My introduction to malts was Craggenmoor 12, Talisker 10 & Lagavulin 16.

Nice Post Thirdsystem!

Title: Re: Did somebody want to talk about whisky or whiskey?
Post by: mgriffin on October 09, 2014, 04:28:49 PM
Same here, wanting to try Talisker now.

I learned to enjoy bourbon by being shown how well it goes with beer. I don't mean mixed together, but the old "shot and a beer" side-by-side. I started off ordering those in bars with one of the members of Austere, then got into the habit. Even at home, now, Lena and I both often have a few sips of bourbon alongside a nice beer.