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Title: Too much music?
Post by: drone on on June 20, 2012, 12:08:56 AM
I have way too much music to actually have time to listen to yet keep piling on to my collection.  Is it possible to just stop buying (if not forced to for economic reasons)?  Am I alone here??
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: Bert/SonicImmersion.org on June 20, 2012, 01:10:19 AM
I fully understand the impact of this, being flushed by so much (promo)music as a reviewer for over 25 years; Listening to music should be comfortable & fun, never done under pressure or the incense one has to.

There's just no way to keep up with it all in a sensible manner nor keeping track on all that's happening out there;
I do the best I can, take it the way it is, never rush and only take things one step at the time...
Just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on June 20, 2012, 04:39:39 AM
My music purchases have been steady for a while until recent....I have too much in that I list to an 1/8 th of my collection.  Grant new arrivals get top billing.  What is a concern for me is the physical space all these cds take up.  When I look at all that plastic it really turns me off.  It definitely has effected my purchasing.  Our Ambient community should be supported, needs to be....... and there are many wonderful releases coming out and older ones to be discovered.  Not easy!   Good thread Drone on!
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: | broken harbour | on June 20, 2012, 09:09:05 PM
I feel you, for many years I was buying about 15-20 albums a month, which stopped abruptly a few months ago, now I only purchase something I really want.  I guess saving for a house means less money for music!  ::)
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: jim02 on June 21, 2012, 10:29:08 AM
that's a good point bringing up.

when i see all that music/plastic piling up here, i feel pretty disgusted with myself..
i need to buy all the things i like.. and all that illegal file-sharing doesn't help either for me. more exposure that way means 'for me' more expenses, cause i simply want the original thing ! that's the problem i'm dealing with, why not being satisfied with a few releases now and then or inexpensive/free downloads..
i'm just 37, what does it look like in 10 years from now, 7000+ CDs at your place....??? is that something to be proud or feeling ashamed of ???
you can only look at it not even talking about playing it...
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: drone on on June 21, 2012, 12:53:21 PM
Ha! Yeah, sometimes I feel proud of my massive collection, but other times disgusted how much money I've spent over the years that could have gone to other things.  Plus, like I mentioned, just realizing how much of this stuff I've barely listened to.  I get something new, have a few good listens, then it goes on the shelf for a year or more sometimes because I'm constantly preoccupied with even newer releases that just keep rolling in.  It would be so much easier if there was only a few artists or labels that I liked (such as back in the mid 90's I was almost exclusively into Fax, Amplexus, and Steve Roach), but as my horizons have expanded, so has my pile of CD's.  ;)
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: richardgurtler on June 23, 2012, 04:42:17 AM
Hi guys, I am very glad to read there are more nuts like me out there...:-) I am 46 years old and I returned back to collecting ambient music in 2007, after 8-9 years of total silence. My initial idea was to buy about 30 of most fave CDs by artists like Steve Roach, Robert Rich, Michael Stearns, vidnaObmana..., whom I started to collect around 1995 when running a small mail-order catalogue. At that time I even sold my own copies, so in 2007 I started basically from point zero. But the whole situation somehow overgrown my plans, I didn't end at 30 CDs only and still keep on ordering and exploring new artists and buying each release of my fave artists (a very long list...). Who knows, maybe the economic reasons will force me to cut down my orders, hopefully this day is still faraway...  :) And yes, the pile of ordered CDs is always too big..., but I also always keep an eye on my mailbox for new beauties... :)

Keep on enjoyng and buying great music!!! ;)

Richard
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: Wanterkeelt on June 29, 2012, 07:13:36 AM
I know the problem. I've been collection music for the last 10 years, and since I evolved from a narrow-headed metal fan to genres like metal, ambient, Berlin School, folk and neofolk, dub techno, classic and so on, the collection has been growing and growing and growing... Fortunately there's Discogs to manage the collection.
Financially there's no problem but spacewise, it's getting a bit difficult....
But I don't see a near end, I'm too much a music addict.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: headonist on June 29, 2012, 08:35:13 AM
When I reached 700 CD titles, I got fed up with it. Started to sell everything. But before everything was sold I decided to keep some. So I still have a small collection 200 CDs. I think it was a good decision now that I only play flac-files anyway. I didn't need all that plastic.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: Paul Vnuk (Ma Ja Le) on June 29, 2012, 11:36:25 AM
Hi, my name is Paul and I am a music addict... :o

Ok, so seriously, even though every aspect of my professional life revolves around music...what do I do for a hobby? I collect music, and I am obsessively compulsive.

According to my iTunes, I have 1135 artists and 8325 albums...and yes most of them are legit purchased downloads and rips of my cd, album and sadly in a few places tape collection. (I will give a 10-15% variance if I am honest that I got some from friends along the way too). Here are some of my personal facts, maybe some of you can commiserate.

And yes, according to iTunes it would take me 435 days to listen to it all end to end...so like many of you, it is too much.

Why do I do it?


How do I afford my habit?

So there you have it! I am an addict just like all'y'all!

PS now I struggle with the legal and moral ramifications of, "If I rip my CDs can I just sell them?" Of which the Law says no... also as hard drives get even cheaper will I some day want to re-rip them again at higher rates... and so forth.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: drone on on June 29, 2012, 03:08:46 PM
LOL!!! OMG, my obsessive compulsive music habit is nothing compared to your obsessive compulsive music habit.  ;D

What do you do with your "free" time??!!
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: jdh on June 29, 2012, 09:01:15 PM
This is a great subject.
There is too much out there so it requires some editing,wether that be because of finances,looking for the highest quality download and not finding it,not enough time to search out and listen,etc...
I let the artists in a way do the editing for me. How? Because after X album release ( I believe it to be 3 maybe 4) there is generally nothing new to offer. I am a big fan of Ultravox as a recent example. Rage in Eden from 1981 is my ALL time fav album. So you would think after their 4 th album,I would keep going.No,the music got boring. They just released a new one after 30 years apart,I did not get it,same old.
I read Santana just released his 36 th album,come on.Same goes for Roach,Alio Die,and more.And I really like the last two.
I used to buy in the day all FAX,got about 100, there was a label that you got something different.
Or a certain artist that does challenge you,such as David Sylvian or a label like Hyperdub.
As there is too much,I also only go to certain forums,like Hypnos,or read certain mags or online review sites or go to certain labels,like Kranky. I edit myself.
I still listen for new material every day somehow but my collecting has gone way down.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: chris23 on July 01, 2012, 09:10:41 AM
Wow, Paul!

For better or worse, I've never had the problem you all describe. I'm a bit OCD when it comes to budgets and I've limited myself to a maximum of one CD a week for about two decades. I fully vet anything I intend to buy and listen repeatedly to each release. The breath of my music exposure likely pales in comparison to most people here, but I like to think that I have an intimate connection to (almost) everything I own.

My sense of hearing (ironically, for a music fan) isn't great, so I can't tell the difference between the various formats that people discuss (e.g., 128 vs. 320). As a result, I've gradually moved from purchasing physical recordings to buying digital tracks on iTunes, bandcamp, etc.  The benefit of doing so is that I am able to recapture the pleasure that I used to get from walking into a record store, exploring the collections, and walking out with something I can listen to immediately. Now that I live in a small town with record stores that don't cater to my interests, I'd gladly sacrifice a bit of recording quality that I can't detect for instant gratification than use mailorder and wait a week or more for something a bit better.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: ambient789 on August 28, 2012, 10:10:54 PM
Hi.

Sorry to revive an old thread, but I have my own story here:

Last fall, I sent a large box to Goodwill (for those that don't know - it's basically a business that operates thrift shops). I already had quite a few CD's in this box that I knew I wasn't going to be able to get rid of by selling. I also decided to check through some old cassette tapes. Dear God!!!!  :o While I quickly checked through a few of them, there were others that I just plain knew I didn't ever want to listen to again! I must have put at least 75 tapes in that box. That's not a big amount to some, but I was surprised at how my music taste had changed, even if it's slight. Some things didn't stand the test of time for me.

headonist -- I understand, I have approximately 900 Cd's now!!! I have to get rid of the ones I don't like anymore and watch how many I take on because I might be planning to move elsewhere in USA in two years. (City is picked out). This move depends on a lot of things, I can't leave immediately. So while I do plan to move a safe area, I must take into account available apartment space, crime etc. in new area. I may need some extra storage and renter's insurance anyway!! I don't know if I will be able to put the music on a server right now.

jdh --  I had 6 Cd's by a well known artist (who shall remain nameless here). I sold 4 and I'm keeping only two of them. I do see your point about artist's starting to sound the same after a number of releases, although it depends on if the artist finds a profitable "sound" to exploit and one's personal taste.

I will probably never get rid of my Robert Carty CD's. He varies his music a bit. Most of them are CD-R's too so they can't be sold anyway. Same with Oophoi, but for slightly different reasons.

The "housecleaning" continues...... :-\


Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: 9dragons on September 28, 2012, 01:54:38 PM
Such a great thread, I can echo many of the sentiments here.

I think one of the thrills of being a collector, what originally got me into it, was the fun of the search, and the waiting for the package to arrive. Then when they do arrive, the ritual of the opening of the package, opening the albums, looking at all the goodies, playing the music in a reverie. So much fun to surf the net and get into darker and obscurer corners, finding all the labels, one leading to another, drinking in the mysterious atmosphere of far away labels. Buying the music gives one the feeling of a new world opening up, an actual place to explore. And the anticipation, one's imagination of what the release will be like, where it will take you.

I've never reached the collecting heights that many here have, my max collection was probably in the hundreds (maybe 300-500). But compared to my original intent of collecting, that is a massive amount. I originally thought I could get a "self sustaining" collection, a set number of classics that would allow me to rotate, not get bored, and come back around. Hermetically sealed, no new albums need to be bought. I thought this could be achieved in maybe 30-60 albums. But the thrill of the search drove me on.

There was a time a couple years ago when I realized I liked the search more than the finding, and wasn't actually listening or getting full enjoyment out of my collection. I would usually have a set of classics that I returned to again and again, the music I truly enjoyed. The rest would get those first few listens then go to sleep on the shelf. Of course there is the awesome sensation when you replay one that was almost lost deep in the collection and realize that it enters the classic cannon. But I ended up needing a cash infusion, which coincided with disillusion with the music, and the carefully amassed ambient and electronic collection got sold, virtually the whole thing, only a few being held back, and some strays which had been put to the computer. I held on to my world music collection (maybe 100 albums) because it has excellent replayability.

Now after some years I find myself missing the electronic and ambient, and a few releases trickle back in. Got some albums from Warp, which I never thought I would do again. Relatively recent ones from Autechre and Plaid. They are good beyond just the nostalgia trip I wanted to take.

One thing great (and possibly detrimental in some respects) about the current climate is the ability to get legitimate and free good music. I can have those same fun surfing sessions, explore the websites of labels, and bandcamp etc. And listen to a ton of stuff streaming. Then maybe download a token free track offered up by the labels/artists. Which takes the place of when I previously had to order the release, and have the exciting waiting period for the mail to come. In effect, the new way helps me to diffuse my music and collecting addiction. It's easier to be more discerning with purchases, but it also takes out the mystery and thrill, and chance taking, that made buying the physical album fun. And maybe I'm a more reserved music enjoyer now, not wide-eyed and expecting that next mind-blowing release. More jaded? I can agree that there needs to be more to please me these days than business as usual. The past few years have seen me buy 1-2 albums a year. But in the past few weeks I've got 3 albums by Autechre and 2 by Plaid. The collector daemon returns, however weakly. This time I think I can enjoy the thrill of the search without having to buy every time.

But just writing about it here makes me want to go on a music search and surf...damnit.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: drone on on November 13, 2012, 11:15:07 AM
I am really sick.  I have 2 billion cd's and it's not enough (and I don't have time to listen to even a fraction of it).   :'(
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: mgriffin on November 16, 2012, 12:48:59 PM
While I was in college, I was obsessive about music but only had enough money to buy a few CDs per month. I listened to these obsessively, studied the liner notes, and at the UO library read all the music magazines I could get my hands on.

My crazy collector days probably started after I got out of college in 1989. I started to get carried away with the mindset others have mentioned here, collecting for the sake of completion, the goal being the elimination of gaps in the collection. Once I decided I loved Japan or New Order or Kraftwerk, I had to have everything. It wasn't enough to have the domestic albums CD singles. I had to have the import variations, especially if even a single track was different.

When my interests drifted more and more toward ambient music and electronica, I had a lot of catching up to do. It's hard to fill out a collection in a hurry. It takes time! For several years I pursued that, but before long I started Hypnos, and that changed my mentality about CD collecting. I became much more focused on the music the label was releasing, and began receiving much more music intended as demos for the Hypnos label or promos for the Hypnos store that I kind of lost the habit of going to CD stores.

I do miss those days, though, browsing through Tower or some of the local indie shops in Portland and Eugene and Seattle .
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: configX on December 22, 2012, 11:07:41 AM
Just recently I started getting a bit obsessive about collecting music. One of the things that started it was Bandcamp. There is WAY too much good music on there. I like the user experience too.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: sraymar on December 23, 2012, 08:25:11 AM
Did somebody tell you guys that you had to become museum curators? Did you feel some sort of need to support the music industry? Are you going to start a radio station?

If you have a huge CD collection that's any good then it should be worth repeated listenings, and that means you don't need to buy more music, just chew on what you have.  It should sustain you for the rest of your life. If you just listen to it once then its disposable.

A lesson in consciousness - 

The first level is - is everything ok? Do I have enough?
The second level is - who has the power? Who is top dog?

I can see from this syndrome that all of you are stuck in these two areas instead of enjoying the higher levels of bliss from the music itself. Its good to "zoom out" from time to time and take a look at yourself.  You might even try picking up an instrument and learning how to play it and maybe even creating some music yourself. I just spent over four months learning how to play a classical guitar piece by ear in my spare time. Didn't buy one CD.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: headonist on December 23, 2012, 10:06:36 AM
It's not up to you to decide how much bliss we experience through music. Next lesson please :)
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: configX on December 23, 2012, 11:46:55 AM
I agree with headonist. We all experience the world/universe differently. If I didn't continue my exploration of music then I would miss out on some amazing sounds.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: Antdude on December 23, 2012, 02:05:36 PM
Books and music, the two constants in my life. My vinyl collection(along with my expensive turntable) is packed away yet I couldn't bear the thought of parting with it. The CD collection has far outgrown every crate and case I've bought to contain it, and my pile of 'to-be-read' books will literally stack to the ceiling. And now I have a Kindle and a growing collection of ebooks yet to be read.

If I was still in the Navy, I'd almost be looking forward to a long deployment where I could catch up on all this reading and listening. I used to justify purchasing a bunch of new music CDs from Hypnos or Steve Roach by making that part of my 'pre-deployment kit.' It had to last me at least 6 months. Now, with music downloads, Low Light Mixes, Hypnagogue, and a bunch of other music sites, there really is no shortage of new music to keep me occupied, but it seems as though I have less time to fall in love with a new release. I guess I have the collecting problem as well.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: sraymar on December 24, 2012, 02:00:56 AM
It's not up to you to decide how much bliss we experience through music. Next lesson please :)

Did I say how much?  ::)
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: drone on on December 24, 2012, 02:11:52 AM
Hahahahahaha headonist!  Good one!  8)
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: ffcal on December 24, 2012, 08:15:51 AM
Did you feel some sort of need to support the music industry?

Actually, the small indies you may care about and the artists they support do need your help now.  It's a very crucial time for small labels, and the last thing they need is for their fans to walk away.

Forrest
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: drone on on December 24, 2012, 11:10:23 AM
Yes, excellent point. 

If everyone stopped buying new music and focusing on what they have (not that this will ever happen, but hypothetically), it would be a disaster for the industry. 

Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: mgriffin on July 10, 2013, 03:46:57 PM
Somehow I managed to miss the 2nd page of this discussion until now.

A label owner who also runs a music mail order ends up with a TON of music to listen to... so much that I could never buy another CD and always have more than enough variety of music to listen to for the rest of my life. This is especially true because I was a fanatical music collector before I started Hypnos, so I have a couple thousand pop/rock/jazz/soundtrack CDs in addition to this glut of ambient.

I can understand as well as anyone the idea of simply no longer buying new music, and just listening to what I have.

A good point is raised, though, which is the idea that even if it makes sense for us individually not to buy any more music, as part of a music "scene" we have an interest (not an obligation, at least I wouldn't say so) to support artists or labels who are creating interesting music that we would like to encourage.

A phenomenon I've seen happen many times, not just in the world of music but also in publishing, is that a label or publisher or magazine says "We aren't making enough money to continue because nobody is buying our product." So they do a Kickstarter, and everybody swoops in and donates thousands of dollars, and the label/publisher is able to continue at least temporarily. It seems people are willing to "bail out" someone who is doing good work, if people realize that the label/publisher is going to disappear without that support.

It seems it's human nature to take for granted that the creators we enjoy are doing just fine, and will always be there. We may not buy their CD, their book or their DVD, (or we might buy some of their output, but not most) but we want them to be around, because they are part of a community and a scene that we value.

Although I own a record label, I'm actually NOT bringing this up from that perspective. I'm not feeling sorry for myself about how tough it is to sell CDs in today's market. Actually, Hypnos does OK, and there's zero chance that we'll stop doing this any time soon.

But I do speak to other label owners, as well as artists who self-release their music, and something I hear again and again is "Why should I bother continuing to do this?" In the past few months, I've spoken to a couple of label owners who I had assumed were doing really well -- they were still actively putting out cool music -- but who indicated they aren't sure whether to continue.

I won't name names, but I have no doubt that if either of these label owners put up a Kickstarter and tried to raise money, and made it clear that without a certain-sized chunk of money they would cease operating, many of us would want to donate because we would simply hate the idea of the ambient/experimental music scene without these labels doing what they do. I like to think the same is true with Hypnos -- that if we were actually struggling, and let everyone know it, that people would contribute to keep it going.

I see both sides of this problem. I understand having so much music that it's hard to get motivated to buy more. Same goes for books, with me. I have such an enormous backlog, it's only the collector's mindset that triggers the urge to purchase, not an actual need for new reading materials.

I also think it's important for people to remember we ought to "vote with our wallet" by supporting the stuff we want to continue. I'll clarify again, this is not a plea for more people to buy Hypnos stuff. We're doing just fine, thanks! I really am talking about this more as an ambient music enthusiast, and friend to other labels and indie artists.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: drone on on July 11, 2013, 10:34:50 AM
I think that's why I buy too much music.  I'm a collector, and completist in many instances.  Especially the limited editions, because I don't want to get stuck paying $75 for one cd on eBay or discogs because I waited too long!

Glad to hear hypnos will be around.   ;)
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: hdibrell on July 11, 2013, 01:30:58 PM
I often wonder if I have to much music, as well. I often , due to economic reasons, have to curtail my buying for a short period of time. Now happens to be one of these times as I have taken off quite a bit of time from work in the last four months or so. I had back surgery followed by a death in the family and a trip that had been planned in advance that I didn't want to cancel. I do know that soon I will go back to purchasing releases in this genre.I enjoy hearing new works and also I enjoy supporting artists that I know and like their music. I do feel a certain sense of community being on a forum like this as I have for quite sometime. I also get excited when I hear of a new release from a forum member. I can't buy them all, but I do try to be supportive. As we all know this is not a big money field, so often just the encouragement is important to an ambient artist. I'm glad that Hypnos is not going anywhere soon. I hope that everyone is able to get something out of this genre of value. I have talked to artists who are struggling to get their music heard and only wish the best for them and i will continue to be supportive when I can.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: chris23 on July 12, 2013, 10:51:39 AM
Why wife likes to kid me about my music collection. I could listen to a unique CD a day for several years simply on the basis of what I own now. (And I have a feeling my collection pales in comparison to that of other forum members!)

But I don't feel ashamed of it; I never look at the CDs on the shelves and think "God, what a waste." Music (and other forms of art and literature) are important to me. It is something I want to invest in, something  I want to collect, and something I want to be able to share with other like-minded individuals. It is important to me to feel that those purchases support the artists and the broader community.

I wish I had more disposable income to invest in buying music. It saddens me to know that some artists and labels have to confront the dreaded financial question "Is it worth it?" 
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: drone on on January 21, 2014, 04:35:39 PM
Last night I sold about 150 cd's at Amoeba Music in SF.  I got rid of a lot of rock/pop from the 80's, and also a lot of ambient.  It's amazing how much ambient electronic stuff I have/had that was just gathering dust on my shelves, that is "ok" but not great or inspiring like the classics.  Artists who I had an abundance of titles from I sold off most and kept the 2 or 3 very best.  Trying to streamline my collection into only the very best.  The only label I will not sell anything of is Fax.   
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: chris23 on January 21, 2014, 05:20:36 PM
Last night I sold about 150 cd's at Amoeba Music in SF.  I got rid of a lot of rock/pop from the 80's, and also a lot of ambient.  It's amazing how much ambient electronic stuff I have/had that was just gathering dust on my shelves, that is "ok" but not great or inspiring like the classics.  Artists who I had an abundance of titles from I sold off most and kept the 2 or 3 very best.  Trying to streamline my collection into only the very best.  The only label I will not sell anything of is Fax.   

Was it hard to part with so many CDs? Or did it feel liberating?
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: thirdsystem on January 22, 2014, 07:05:58 AM
I really should slow down on the music purchases. Storage has been becoming an issue for all my Cds, vinyl and cassettes  :o. I still have all my stuff from my teenage years onwards. Can't bring myself to get rid of all the old rock, metal and more mainstream stuff even.

I once sold my entire vinyl collection when CDs came out  :'( Spent the last 15/20 years trying to buy it all back. All for the sake of buying about 5 new CDs at the time. Deeply regretted that massive mistake.

Downloads, especially itunes and bandcamp, have been a great thing for me. Perhaps too convenient. However as stated I really have to slow down on this. I have too much, no doubt about it. However I also feel it is very important to support artists and labels, especially in the ambient and electronic field, and thus it is a difficult task.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: drone on on January 22, 2014, 04:46:09 PM
Yeah hard to part with but liberating too as now I don't have a mountain of stuff I'd probably hardly listen to.  I need tostop buying so much too and be more selective. 
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: Castleview on January 23, 2014, 03:25:11 PM
I also feel like I have too much music and I've slowed down quite a bit on acquiring new music over the last year. I've deleted some stuff not too long that I don't listen to at all.

I won't stop buying altogether though but I'm definitely feeling more conscious about purchasing music than I used to be.
Title: Re: Too much music?
Post by: 9dragons on July 29, 2015, 08:46:59 PM
It has been very interesting reading through this thread. I like everyone's different takes on this. A decade and a half back I traveled around by bicycle, and would stop for a year or so in a country to teach English. Living this life I never gathered much stuff. But then in Rome, I discovered electronic music in a big way. Aphex Twin's Selected Ambient Works vol. 2 to be exact. I listened to it day and night, and was completely hooked. I eventually tore through all the Warp label releases I could find...but in that early stage I actually believed in the idea of the "circular collection", that one could arrive at a certain number of albums and circulate through them, creating a hermetic world with no need to buy new music, and maybe switching one out to be replaced by a new one. But soon the glorious addiction kicked in. Going to the record store almost daily was like a special time of peace, an opening of possibilities, and in each city I cherished this ritual. It was great to discover Hypnos while living in China, the joy of having a pack of cds arrive from such a faraway land (I could picture beautiful Portland, Oregon in my mind, having been there many times) was a great comfort in those strange and stressful times. The music was burned into my spirit, accompanying me everywhere. I eventually became more settled. Lived in Portland for a while, and remember going to that great world music cd shop in the Hawthorne (I hope it's still there) every day, amassing quite a collection of international traditional music as well. Then I became a more serious collector, though with a relatively modest collection. More than just listening to the music, it was the excitement of hunting around on label sites on the net, or jetting over to the record store before they closed in the evening, buying known quantities or completely unknown stuff for the sense of discovery. Then waiting for the great moment when the package would arrive, opening the package, slowly going over all the packaging, enjoying the evocative art and textures, anticipating the First Listen...

More to follow, gotta run...