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MUSIC, AMBIENCE AND SOUND ART => Music Gearheads Tech Talk => Topic started by: mgriffin on October 04, 2012, 12:05:54 PM

Title: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: mgriffin on October 04, 2012, 12:05:54 PM
We've talked over the years about why nobody's been able to come up with a decent Mac alternative to Sound Forge... finally, today Sony announced Sound Forge 1.0 for Mac.  I'm excited... anyone else?

Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: Paul Vnuk (Ma Ja Le) on October 04, 2012, 12:51:45 PM
Actually I am ecstatic as this will make my migration from PC to MAC complete!!!

Paul
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: LNerell on October 04, 2012, 02:04:02 PM
Hmm maybe I would have 15 years ago, but why did it take so long?
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: mgriffin on October 04, 2012, 02:34:41 PM
I'm ecstatic too. Sound Forge! For Mac OS!!
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: mgriffin on October 04, 2012, 03:06:03 PM
Link:

http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/soundforgepromac (http://www.sonycreativesoftware.com/soundforgepromac)

It looks like the Mac version includes some nice restoration & mastering tools from iZotope.
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: jkn on October 05, 2012, 05:06:15 AM
I committed to Wavelab last year...  too little too late.   Sorry Sony.
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: LNerell on October 05, 2012, 08:59:50 AM
I also got Wavelab (the cheaper elements version) but my go to app is still Peak even though it is dead and burried.
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: Paul Vnuk (Ma Ja Le) on October 05, 2012, 04:00:34 PM
I have wabvelab for PC but hate the way it works and unfortunately there is nothing about Peak I ever liked either, its look, the way it functions, I always go back to soundforge even when that meant transferring files to and from the pc for editing.

Paul
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: El culto on October 05, 2012, 04:43:01 PM
I have wabvelab for PC but hate the way it works and unfortunately there is nothing about Peak I ever liked either, its look, the way it functions, I always go back to soundforge even when that meant transferring files to and from the pc for editing.

Paul

I have both. May i ask what you hate about the way it works?
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: Paul Vnuk (Ma Ja Le) on October 05, 2012, 09:37:00 PM
It is/was entirely a workflow issue where wave lab vs sound forge is concerned. I actually will concede that wavelab is more powerful and I did like its effects chaining section, but at the end of the day I can just work quickly and effortlessly in SoundForge so I kept going back to it. I have used it since version 1.0 and spent the better part of the last 10 years as a sound designer for Sony Creative Software & Sonic Foundry before that so, again its a comfortably and workflow thing.

When I tried a demo of Peak for the Mac I found its interface and workflow just completely counterintuitive, clunky and just pain ugly. Again all personal preference, but there it is.

Paul
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 06, 2012, 07:54:23 AM
Waveburner here.....those iZotope plugging are alone worth the price or admission.  Something to look into!
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: LNerell on October 08, 2012, 09:57:03 AM
I have used it since version 1.0 and spent the better part of the last 10 years as a sound designer for Sony Creative Software & Sonic Foundry before that so, again its a comfortably and workflow thing.

When I tried a demo of Peak for the Mac I found its interface and workflow just completely counterintuitive, clunky and just pain ugly. Again all personal preference, but there it is.

I feel the exact opposite.  ;D  I've used Peak since 1.6 and am use to its interface and find other editing software to be counter intuitive to what I am use to. To each his own.

BTW After all this talk about how great Sound Forge is I downloaded the demo version for the Mac and found that you have to be on at least OSX 10.7, I'm on 10.6.8 so it wouldn't even install. Looks like I won't be going down this road.
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: mgriffin on October 08, 2012, 07:34:24 PM
Just purchased, downloading now. Can't wait to fire this up and test it out. I've been bitching about "no Mac equivalent to Sound Forge" since I switched over the Macs in the studio... 1998 or something?!

Of all the various things I tried, Wavelab LE actually came the closest for me - a combination of power, and lots of sensible keyboard shortcuts.

I'll let everybody know how it works, probably this weekend.
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: El culto on October 12, 2012, 10:50:30 AM
It is/was entirely a workflow issue where wave lab vs sound forge is concerned. I actually will concede that wavelab is more powerful and I did like its effects chaining section, but at the end of the day I can just work quickly and effortlessly in SoundForge so I kept going back to it. I have used it since version 1.0 and spent the better part of the last 10 years as a sound designer for Sony Creative Software & Sonic Foundry before that so, again its a comfortably and workflow thing.

When I tried a demo of Peak for the Mac I found its interface and workflow just completely counterintuitive, clunky and just pain ugly. Again all personal preference, but there it is.

Paul

Yes i understand the issue of being used to a program for a long time...nevertheless i tried another program for Mac because they had very reasonable crosscrade prices. Finally they have as well the FX Chain section like in Wavelab and the app is very stable too :-)

Not as much tools like in Wavelab but extremely reasonable for the price:

http://www.dsp-quattro.com/dspquattro/Site/DSP-Quattro.html (http://www.dsp-quattro.com/dspquattro/Site/DSP-Quattro.html)

Tomas
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: mgriffin on October 17, 2012, 09:33:05 AM
For those interested in DSP-Quattro (a truly professional-level audio editor for Mac), there's a special deal on it for half off the usual $99.99 price, so you can get it for $49.99. This deal appears to be available today only:

http://www.mupromo.com/ (http://www.mupromo.com/)
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: El culto on October 17, 2012, 10:51:27 AM
For those interested in DSP-Quattro (a truly professional-level audio editor for Mac), there's a special deal on it for half off the usual $99.99 price, so you can get it for $49.99. This deal appears to be available today only:

http://www.mupromo.com/ (http://www.mupromo.com/)

Mike, did you use the program? If yes, how are your impressions on it? Im asking for a particular reason in regard to the issue of temporary copy when loading a file into it and editing it. Im used from Wavelab that it creates a virtual copy and dont create another file what dsp unfortunately do by importing it via i-tunes.

Apart from this im very happy with it!

Tomas
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: mgriffin on October 17, 2012, 11:04:49 AM
I have not used DSP Quattro 4, the current version - but 5 or more years ago I used a try-out of an earlier version of DSP Quattro and liked it enough that I considered buying it. At that time the price was much higher (something like $400) and the company looked like it might discontinue development.

Now that it's being updated again, and the price is so low, I think it's well worth considering.
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: petekelly on November 19, 2012, 09:41:25 AM
Are your thoughts on this one forthcoming, Mike ?

I'm curious, I downloaded the demo, but it wouldn't install on my machine as I didn't have SP3 for Vista and I'm not going to risk the stability of it, just for a demo.

Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: mgriffin on November 19, 2012, 03:08:42 PM
Pete, if you're using Windows, I wholeheartedly endorse Sound Forge for Windows. I've been using it since the first days of recording my album Sudden Dark in 1995-96. It's the only Windows software I've continued to still use at home in the past decade or so, and I recommend it over any other two-track audio editor on any platform.

I've tinkered a bit with the Mac version, though still not as much as I intended to. It has quite a different feel from the Windows version... a few things have a similar feel, though other things are located in different places. I need to dig out some files in need of editing, restoration and mastering, and force myself to go through all the steps using this Mac version. It would be nice to have no need at all for a Windows PC in the studio, and Sound Forge was the one thing holding me back.
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: darkenedsoul on November 21, 2012, 03:54:22 AM
Is Sound Forge worth updating from 7.0x? I haven't bothered looking at it since I don't muck around much on it for editing audio. I will have a look to see prices on it now for version umm 10 or so?
Title: Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
Post by: mgriffin on November 21, 2012, 08:58:12 AM
I think the upgrade deals offered by Sony are pretty cheap but I can't name a single compelling reason why you need to upgrade to the latest. The features I find compelling in Sound Forge have been present for many, many years. I'd say if you have a copy of 7.0 and it's working for you, skip the upgrade and spend the money on plugins or something.