[ Hypnos Forum ]

OTHER THINGS IN THE WORLD THAN MUSIC => Everything and Nothing => Topic started by: LNerell on October 15, 2013, 03:00:35 PM

Title: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 15, 2013, 03:00:35 PM
I would like to ask a favor of all my friends here on Hypnos. I recently had the great pleasure of composing the music to a video on the art of Trang Le. Her painting 111,978 is an incredible and important work on the Iraq war. The rest of her body of work is just as amazing. Right now she has an article up on kcet.org, the website for a local TV station here in LA. The article on her is in competition with another article on local DJ culture which if you ask me is not really a fair fight. Basically one solitary artist (sound familar? Just like most of us here) against a group of DJs and the young hip crowd who are very savvy with social media, basically a whole community. If she wins the competition the prize will be KCET TV will make a documentary on her and her art. So I am asking all of my friends to vote for her. You can vote once per day per location. So your home computer, your work computer, your local coffee shop, even the browser on your smart phone, they will all count as separate votes. Please as a favor to me and for her seriously consider voting. The vote is very close right now, even voting once might put her over the top, here's the link where to vote, you can also read the article on her from here:

http://www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/vote/vote-metralleta-de-oro-vs-paintings-of-trang-t-le.html (http://www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/vote/vote-metralleta-de-oro-vs-paintings-of-trang-t-le.html)

Also, here's the video I scored about her artwork:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=XskLHI3w8pU# (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOmLpQ2XK8Q#)!

Thank you for your consideration.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: mgriffin on October 15, 2013, 03:56:57 PM
Loren, I really like the painting, and also your music. I voted -- will try to remember to do so again. Feel free to nag us all to remember to vote again later!
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 15, 2013, 04:02:06 PM
Thanks for voting and thanks for the compliment about the music. It looks like they go by different ip addresses, so you can vote multiple times from different locations. So if you have computer access at work you can cast a vote there  and then go home and vote again. Just wanted to make that clear. Thanks again for everyone who has voted already, it is still very close and every vote makes a big difference.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: mgriffin on October 15, 2013, 04:06:38 PM
I tried voting from a second computer here at work but the web site said "Sorry, we've already received your vote" so the computers here must present the same public IP address.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: chris23 on October 15, 2013, 04:32:49 PM
Vote cast--and will do so from home and office tomorrow.

I agree with Mike: Both the music and the art were great.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 15, 2013, 04:36:27 PM
Loren there is this beautiful darkness to the music when the video begins that suggest the meaning behind the work of art.....until later in the video when the truth behind all those painted circles is explained.
Cant say when i have been so emotional moved.  As a viewer & listener to the piece there is a calmness and purpose to the experience even if it has not been for the artist.  I wish I could see the work.  The music takes the backstage, as a score should yet lifts the the visual art and documentary to a point of quiet elation.  I will vote as often as I can!
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 15, 2013, 05:49:37 PM
Thank you Julio for your kind words. I shared them with Trang, she was very touched and would like to put them on her website.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: APK on October 15, 2013, 08:13:25 PM
Voted. Will try to do more.

Awesome mood in the music, Loren. Excellent.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: hdibrell on October 15, 2013, 08:59:17 PM
Just voted from my computer and then tried to vote again from my iPhone. It informed me that my vote had already been counted. Like Mike said, don't hesitate to remind us. I sometimes have a hard time remembering my socks in the morning.  ;)
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: ffcal on October 15, 2013, 09:18:00 PM
Hi Loren,

I voted, too.  Very beautiful music and painting--the music's sustained mood complements the flow of the painting very well.  The circles reminded me of little plankton.  One of the other paintings reminded me Clyfford Still and Indonesian ikats.  Hope she wins!

Forrest
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Seren on October 16, 2013, 12:54:52 AM
I've voted twice now - seems to be a close run thing as last night the votes were equal.

will try again from home tonight.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 16, 2013, 04:34:12 AM
Hi Loren.....Trang can use anything Ive said about her work and your music.  I have watched the video many times and paused it where the full painting is in view.  It is very comforting and peaceful.  As a surfer I am familiar with the world below the ocean surface and this is what I see. As the power of the ocean holds you under....hopefully not for to long....the kaleidoscopic colours and thousands of bubbles within the silence envelopes until the ocean release you back up into the air.  I will think of air bubbles in the ocean as "souls at rest"  Thanks so much for introducing Trang's beautiful art to me/us

1 computer vote and 2 iPhone votes so far.....will do more later at work
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Bill Binkelman on October 16, 2013, 07:45:48 AM
Saw the message about this at Relaxed Machinery and have voted 3 times (twice from home and once from work) so far and will continue voting as well. Good luck!
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Scott M2 on October 16, 2013, 08:28:31 AM
Loren, the piece and your music are deep and moving. I had no problem voting from Canada.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 16, 2013, 09:22:53 AM
Thanks everyone for voting and your kind words about my music and Trang's art. Yes, you can vote from anywhere in the world, it doesn't seem to matter, I  know of at least a couple people who have voted in France. Also consider this your reminder to vote again today, you guys are making a big difference, as I type this she is ahead by 25 votes, that is the largest margin so far in the three days of voting. Thanks again for everyone's support.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: petekelly on October 16, 2013, 11:04:07 AM
I followed the link to vote, but couldn't find where to do it.
Am I missing it, or is it a Facebook only thing ? 
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: lena on October 16, 2013, 11:48:43 AM
Voted today, will vote again tomorrow.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 16, 2013, 12:04:04 PM
I followed the link to vote, but couldn't find where to do it.
Am I missing it, or is it a Facebook only thing ?

Its not a facebook thing, its a direct vote. When you get to the page you should see something that looks like this:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v128/lnerell/ScreenShot2013-10-16at115421AM_zps811dccfe.png) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/lnerell/media/ScreenShot2013-10-16at115421AM_zps811dccfe.png.html)

Click on Trang T Le, then click on vote, you should see a running score of votes after that. Thanks for your support.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: petekelly on October 16, 2013, 12:10:52 PM
Hi Loren,

Am running one of those blocking things so it wasn't visible, sorted now (I thought I was being really daft missing it !) Have just voted.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: ffcal on October 16, 2013, 03:47:14 PM
Looks like she's pulling ahead.  Up by over 50 votes now.

Forrest
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 16, 2013, 05:30:16 PM
Yes right now she has a 61 vote lead, but I'm just afraid of a weekend lull in voting will allow her competitors to catch up and over take her, so every vote counts right now. And once again thank you for your support on this.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: ffcal on October 16, 2013, 08:41:50 PM
That daily re-voting capability's kind of cool.  If only elections worked that way.  Vote early and often. :)

Forrest
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 17, 2013, 05:27:09 AM
Glad you mentioned the re-vote capabilities Forrest.  I did not realize we could.... 2 more votes this morning
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: APK on October 17, 2013, 05:40:51 AM
Re-voting doesn't work for me. It simply says they already have my vote.
Which is what I would expect.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: ffcal on October 17, 2013, 07:26:16 AM
Re-voting doesn't work for me. It simply says they already have my vote.
Which is what I would expect.

Could it be the cookie in your browser from the last time you voted?  I voted again this morning  Lead is down to 40 votes.  Those DJS are busy beavers.

Forrrest
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 17, 2013, 09:24:01 AM
Yes you can vote every day from the same computer, I just voted on this one for the 4th time in as many days so their must be something wrong with your computer. Try refreshing or deleting your cookies as Forrest suggested.  Yes Forrest they had a big serge last night between 10 - 11PM, maybe for the reason below.

Ok, I am reposting this from facebook as this is important. Thank you everyone who has voted so far. Today is an important day and may decide the outcome. The group of DJs in the other article have their big show on Thursday nights, and I know if I were a DJ I would expect everyone attending to get out their smart phones and vote while on the dance floor. So because of this I expect a larger serge in votes from them late this evening. So, please make sure to vote for Trang Le today as much as you can. We need to build a bigger lead to withstand the dance fever vote later on this evening. :D Thanks again for voting. Here is the link again:

http://www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/vote/vote-metralleta-de-oro-vs-paintings-of-trang-t-le.html (http://www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/vote/vote-metralleta-de-oro-vs-paintings-of-trang-t-le.html)
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: modulator_esp on October 17, 2013, 04:08:21 PM
When does voting close?
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 17, 2013, 05:22:15 PM
Voting closes Sunday night/ Monday morning at midnight Pacific time. Voting is reset every day so make sure to vote each day.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 17, 2013, 07:58:38 PM
I got 3 votes in this morning and another 3 just now...must be the time difference as Im in Florida and its almost 11 pm.  537 votes for the DJ's and 589 for Trang as of 10.54pm eastern time.  I think I will corral people at work tomorrow with smart phones and ask them to do me a favour and vote or let me use their phones.  There are a lot more phones than computers.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 18, 2013, 12:08:19 AM
It's after midnight here so you can all vote again. As I type this the lead is 47 votes, with Trang getting 604 votes so far. Thanks to everyone for turning out and voting, its been amazing to see everyone coming together around this amazing painter. Not just us but I head from a dancer friend that a group of knitters have taken up her cause since some of her most recent work also uses threads, who would have thought? Just three more days of voting and its over. Here is a direct link again to vote:

http://www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/vote/vote-metralleta-de-oro-vs-paintings-of-trang-t-le.html (http://www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/vote/vote-metralleta-de-oro-vs-paintings-of-trang-t-le.html)
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: APK on October 18, 2013, 05:42:42 AM
Voting each day is working for me now.  :)
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: ffcal on October 18, 2013, 09:14:33 AM
Just voted.  The lead is down to 33.  The thumpers are attempting a comeback.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: ffcal on October 18, 2013, 11:25:19 AM
Lead down to 5.

Forrest
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 18, 2013, 11:51:36 AM
They actually took a one vote lead for a moment, but I got some of my co-workers to vote and give her a bit of a lead again.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: ffcal on October 18, 2013, 01:39:39 PM
They've apparently enlisted a gallery to Twitter on its behalf.

Forrest
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: modulator_esp on October 18, 2013, 02:40:16 PM
Trang is now 10 votes behind :(
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 18, 2013, 02:41:04 PM
Keep voting guys we need a rally to get the lead again.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 18, 2013, 09:23:06 PM
3 more votes.....as of 12:16 am eastern time Trang is 33 votes ahead by my calculation.  Respect to the DJ's but Trang's art is too important to let music get in the way.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 19, 2013, 10:02:41 AM
Don't forget to vote again, her lead is holding up so far:

http://www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/vote/vote-metralleta-de-oro-vs-paintings-of-trang-t-le.html (http://www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/vote/vote-metralleta-de-oro-vs-paintings-of-trang-t-le.html)

Thanks everyone for voting, you are making a difference.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: ffcal on October 19, 2013, 03:36:57 PM
Uh-oh.  They're 18 votes ahead again.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 19, 2013, 04:41:41 PM
We have seen this surge for the DJ's before.....a few more hours and and we can vote heavily again here on the US east coast.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 19, 2013, 07:10:18 PM
Yes please vote they are building a gap that is up to 24 votes now as I type this. Hit your local coffee shops tomorrow if you have to lol. If your local library is open go hit them as well. Its going to be really close.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 20, 2013, 12:10:44 AM
Ok last day. Trang just before midnight took the lead back. It is so close, as they say politics, too close to call. So, your last chance to vote. Make this one count, spread the word. Thanks for all the votes you guys have cast so far. Here's the direct link to vote:

http://www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/vote/vote-metralleta-de-oro-vs-paintings-of-trang-t-le.html (http://www.kcet.org/arts/artbound/vote/vote-metralleta-de-oro-vs-paintings-of-trang-t-le.html)
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 20, 2013, 04:30:02 PM
This the last time I will ask, please vote, it is so close, in the end it only takes 1 vote to make a difference and that's how close this vote is going right now, it may come down to a single vote. So, please vote, and spread the word. Thanks again.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: APK on October 20, 2013, 07:07:13 PM
That is so very close.
I've enlisted a few others to vote.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 20, 2013, 08:21:34 PM
Grabbed some phones from people at work today and voted on them and add 3 more votes from home just now.  I actual listen to the Dj's music to see what Trang was up against.  Cant imagine how this is so close...makes no sense to me. 
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 21, 2013, 12:14:31 AM
Wow its after midnight and they are still taking votes. If you see this message go try voting again. As of this moment we have a 63 vote lead. Its been up and down all day. Thanks for your support.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Seren on October 21, 2013, 12:26:39 AM
Just voted again - we seem to be ahead.......
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 21, 2013, 05:24:30 AM
The DJ's are ahead by one vote as of 8.22am eastern US time....ONE vote.   I cant vote again at least not yet.  Where every you are in the world...Vote!
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: chris23 on October 21, 2013, 05:43:04 AM
Thank you, we have already counted your vote.

I'll try again from the office in 30 mins if the poll is still open.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: chris23 on October 21, 2013, 06:37:37 AM
From the office: the system is still accepting votes. Trang is behind by 4 votes.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: modulator_esp on October 21, 2013, 06:58:34 AM
voted again. Trang only 7 votes behind
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 21, 2013, 09:50:55 AM
Well its over, not sure what time it ended but we lost by 64 votes. I'm really frustrated by this whole experience, ending was not clearly defined, at midnight we had something like a 74 vote margin of victory. But they kept counting votes and I am not even sure what time it ended. Sort of like running a marathon, getting to the end and finding no finish line, yet no one knows where the finish line is, so you have to keep running but you've spent all your energy getting to what you thought was the end. Well thanks everyone for your votes, we wouldn't have gotten as far as we did without you. I will let you all if anything comes of this. Thanks again.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: mgriffin on October 21, 2013, 10:00:13 AM
I saw that, Loren. Kind of disappointing! I must've voted 25 times over the course of the week, but of course the "other side" was getting friends to vote for them too.

You've got to hate one of these online polls without rules or deadlines, as you say.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: LNerell on October 21, 2013, 12:42:05 PM
Here is what Trang says about the vote, thanks again to everyone who came out and supported her:

"WE LOST OUR FOOTBALL GAME!!!! lol. I had to quit right after midnight going against the 3 guys since they kept on going till 9 am this morning lol. We were leading at about 90 points right after midnight. I did not know the exact time the game ended and did not care so much since KCET said it ends Monday morning. I set my time to end at midnight because I rather sleep. I would like to thank you from the bottom of my heart how much you guys love my work and supporting me and we had fun with it. I had so much fun staying in the game against them with my big troop behind me. The best part is having guys including friends and family with me. just love you guys!!!! hugs... The game is over now."
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: APK on October 21, 2013, 01:11:01 PM
Yep, most fun we've had on this boards since ........ actually, have we ever had this much fun before?  ;D

Nice of her to write.
Sorry we didn't quite make it.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 21, 2013, 01:12:27 PM
It is disappointing for Trang especially when the work is so beautiful and meaningful.  Thanks for letting us know about her.  I will follow her work.

Any thoughts to doing a Kickstarter type campaign. 

Ive been involved in several specifically for Yoga teacher Elena Brower who raised $75,000 to make her book "The Art of Attention" http://www.artofattention.com (http://www.artofattention.com).  Just a thought :)
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: hdibrell on October 21, 2013, 01:16:29 PM
It is disappointing. The good thing is that many people on this forum and others have discovered her work. I will continue to follow her now. Also, great job on the music, Loren.
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: ffcal on October 21, 2013, 01:59:07 PM
That was very nice to hear from Trang.  Her work is very special, so I'm sure we'll be hearing more from her in the future.  Thanks for letting us know about her work (and your accompanying music), Loren.

I couldn't resist firing off a quick email to KCET questioning the use of a "competition" between two dissimilar projects, the lack of controls or clear parameters for voting, and relying on the effective use of social media as an accurate proxy for viewer interest or as a measure of each project's worthiness.

Forrest
Title: Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
Post by: Julio Di Benedetto on October 21, 2013, 06:44:29 PM
Also Loren...its so easy to get wrapped up in this mini politics I failed to emphasize your special role in this wonderful project....your music was the emotion behind the story.