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I ran Jana's German expression through a english eTranslator.....some interesting results.örens.html

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Walter Geirs video
« on: February 21, 2017, 09:30:10 PM »
Thats fascinating APK.....they are beautiful to look at and so curious to hear.

Never heard of the man before...Thanks

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: The Art of Listening.....a movie
« on: February 21, 2017, 09:14:18 PM »
Do painters practice the art of seeing?  No.  They practice the art of painting.  Art is a clearly defined thing and it doesn't include listening. 

The term art can be used in the figurative sense.  Now, if they called the movie "The Figurative Art of Listening", then I would have no problem with it.

I will listen to the soundtrack of the movie by Christopher Willits who currently has less than a handful of sales at Bandcamp.

You cannot paint with out seeing.  I have not painted anything in some 20 years but I can tell you seeing, looking, is as much an art as is the act of put paint on a canvas. Same goes with listening for the composer.  As to the act of listening for an audience all be it one person with an iPod and buds is an art is the real question.

Is reading an art?  Without it there would be no authors. A reader is part of the writers expression as is the listener for music....if you don't press the play button there is only silence. If nobody buys tickets to a certain concert then there is no audience to play for.


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: The Art of Listening.....a movie
« on: February 20, 2017, 08:32:29 AM »

Hi Julio, I watched the first piece on the video.  It is interesting, but a bit romanticized and it only captures part of the process--the recording.  I think that the preproduction/postproduction, as unglamorous as it may be, can be just as important, especially when studio effects are an integral part of the atmosphere of the overall piece and when a piece is as through-composed as this one was.  The video also captures a piece primarily as a performance.  My pieces generally are not realized as single real-time performances, because of the layering of different instruments and sonic processing that I back into what I've already recorded.  Sometimes I use sonic bits that were recorded years apart.  I wasn't even sure that the melody in the video originated from the Korg MS-20 that he appeared to be playing.  I have one, and I don't think they sound that crisp, even with digital reverb.  My experience has been that a lot of the creative process can be uninteresting to watch, especially the parts showing frustration when a bit doesn't work.  ;)  Maybe it was just the slickness of the video that irritated me a bit.


Hi Forrest.....with a video like this we have to throw in the "art of watching" as well ;D.  As I was consider what actually is the art of listening I came across this video and I do love the music but there was something more to it or more to it for my experience and Im wondering if listening has just as much to do with all our senses, not only what our ears perceive but also what we see, smell and even taste strange as that may sound.

The last piece in the video shows a little party followed by a performance and listening to it while I was watching it sipping a glass of wine I was completely involved in the experience on many levels.  Actually being there would be completion.

I guess what Im getting at is that I feel a performance maybe the apex of the listening experience...not sure where the art part comes in....I recall as a teenager listening to my Rush albums immersed with headphones looking at the jacket photos and reading the lyrics and then I went to see Rush in concert,  The Permanent Waves Tour. it was my first live performance of any style of music.  I was blown away, the sound, the energy, the lights, the musicians performing, the audience that I was a part of.  My favorite songs coming alive.

The act of listening to music is clearly a personal experience as is the creation of the music.  Music is an art form but it does not exist as does say painting or writing.  Music does not have three dimensions in time and space......could this means it requires something more to be truly heard?

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: The Art of Listening.....a movie
« on: February 19, 2017, 11:03:04 PM »
This is the art of listening, its about listening, about the experience and the creation of sonic art in the  heart mind of this listener

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: The Art of Listening.....a movie
« on: February 18, 2017, 07:25:32 AM »
The movie intrigued me also and its direction is not obvious from the trailer.  I thought it was most interesting when it was said that this is the best time, historically to "listen to music" technologically speaking and yet it maybe the first time that music is consumed as a casual sensory accessory due to mobility which asks is that the best environment to listen?  What is the best environment?  Music does not come with listening instruction generally though some do explain unique recording situations that are important to fully appreciate the listening experience.....perhaps the best experience of music is the concert for both the performers and the audience.  The interactiveness.  The complete immersion!  Lots to think about.

Tardigrade my own thoughts on this from a personal perspective.....I listen to music all the time which is mostly of my own in creation and during the compositional process I listen much more then I actually record. The two have to coexist no doubt and all musicians do it in varying degrees.  As a music lover/fan I feel being a musician is a disadvantage because I find myself still working when Im listening, analyzing, figuring out structure, separating the sonic layers to a piece and often missing the actual experience of enjoying the music.

Impressive Minimoog D and virtual Moog shoot out.....the note for note comparison nulled each other out but I heard a difference in the melodic performance pieces, the Model D was brighter with a tad more punch and presence at least to my ears.  Splitting hairs really. 

What a great way to be welcomed back from your sabbatical with the Hearts of Space broadcast.....Bravo!

Now Playing / Re: Downpipe
« on: January 13, 2017, 11:31:38 PM »
I did not realize this thread was dug up from 2010....good job DeepR   8)

Now Playing / Re: Downpipe
« on: January 13, 2017, 11:00:34 PM »

Here's a track I really really like....Underworld : Born Slippy,  its the performance that makes this for me.   The melodic synth part is just breath taking.

Now Playing / Re: Downpipe
« on: January 13, 2017, 10:34:37 PM »
Goatrance. Laughing Buddha - Karma (1997)

It's old but still one of my favorites for that high octane kaleidoscopic feeling.

Wow...whats the bpm on that......were things that fast in 1997  ;)  Love it.

Now Playing / Re: Downpipe
« on: January 13, 2017, 10:27:41 PM »
Julio, that Plaid track is indeed most excellent.

Here's  two belters from the Gasman - both somewhat 'oblique' :)

Pete, Alcatraz Disco...that cracks me up.  The music is completely messed up in a good way teetering on the edge of slipping into structured track. Love it

Now Playing / Re: Downpipe
« on: January 12, 2017, 08:05:29 PM »
^ Very nice indeed. I like the 80ies vibes.

I quite like this one too, especially in combination with the clip which is beyond cool:

Delorean  8)

Now Playing / Re: Downpipe
« on: January 12, 2017, 07:54:42 PM »
Plaid....Matin Lunaire....posted this in the now playing thread but I feel deserves to be here

IDM in spirit but this makes me drive 30+ over the speed limit easliy.....FYI this is a compromised quality compressed file.  The cd version is amazing.

Now Playing / Re: Downpipe
« on: January 12, 2017, 07:09:57 PM »
Deadmau5.....4ware off the Album2016, yep thats the title, steaming available.... cd out soon.

Its got that 80's vibe to it though its a current release.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: TC Electronic VSS3 Native Reverb is here
« on: January 11, 2017, 09:54:41 PM »
Just went through the download & activation...iLok2 necessary.... which I know is an issue with some forum members.

Im happy to see that I was able to upgrade / cross grade from my powercore license to native for 50% less. $79  Its like 8 years since my powercore card got shelved, trashed, I mean recycled, yet Im still there in their system.  8)

Loren the only reference TC makes is porting it over from the system 6000, perhaps the older Mk1, so Im sure your right....many say the VSS4 is a nice improvement over the VSS3 but Im happy just to able to use the VSS3 again.

As I mentioned its been quite a few years since I used this so lets see...will let you know.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / TC Electronic VSS3 Native Reverb is here
« on: January 11, 2017, 08:47:46 AM »
I have waited a long time for powercore pci express card is long gone and this was and still is my favorite reverb that has not been available until now unless one has a 4000 unit or their flagship 6000.

Word was the UA was going to port the TC software over and that may still happen but this is exciting to have a Native version :)

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 09, 2017, 08:01:03 PM »
Ekstasis, why on earth do you keep putting up a style of music that does not fit the style of this community
and its users, and that gets no comments or interest from anyone, and that just keeps filling up page after page with videos.
Please, try to keep the interests of the people here in mind. It is pretty obvious what they are.

Yes this is really nauseating.....Ekstasis, regardless of the merits of this music it does not belong here in an ambient music forum.  It is not Dark Ambient, it is just dark goth metal for lack of a better terminology similar to what your buddy aelfa or what its name was posted.  Please stop posting these relentless carcinogenic sounds.


I am a reverb junkie  to me the blue sky sounds like cheap man's eventide,  sounds not like the h8000 I have own.

More over I would not use a stomp box to but on my  master bus  conversion is probably the weak point of the blue Sky.

How would you think to compare a $5000 box to one that cost $500....of course its not going to come close to the converters that you once had in your Eventide....does not mean it cannot perform.

There are so many ways to use a stomp box, to suggest that one would put it on the master bus is ludicrous  though it may present so interesting results.

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