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Mr. Julio why do you have an Oberheim Matrix 12 and all this gear? Do you know by the slightest chance that this discussion is because of the righteous need for bashing people using ''unnecessary high-end gear''? have you noticed that you look silly pretending that you are on the side of the people that has talent but little gear?

Do you recognize this studio?

Let me give you some flash news! It's yours!




















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I'm not going to get into a slanging match with any individual who has such fixed and limited views on the ambient music.

I have more than 1000 albums of original files and cds, including yours, I'm not new to ambient.

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This whole "Chef" thing has got me into this thread because I intended to stay out of it for obvious reasons.

I have been a professional Chef for the last 27 years and I emphasis "professional" because I get paid to do this.   With all these opinions floating about here some real world facts about cooking are warranted.

1.  The only essential tool a cook needs is a sharp knife, preferable a good one about a $100 and should last many many years.

2. All that "equipment" you may have seen in commercial kitchens is there for one reason...to produce food for a lot of people in a short period of time.  Practically every fancy piece of equipment can be done with a good sharp knife if you know how but often a short cut is needed because time is critical and the doors open at 5pm and the show must commence. Hence the need for fancy equipment

3. Anything done in a commercial kitchen can be done in a home kitchen....granted you might not want to smoke pork butt in your house or have a veal stock simmering for 48 hours. 

4. The creative process is a team effort in a commercial kitchen.....I write the menu, source ingredients, look for interesting flavors that work well together or contrast each other etc....but it gets handed off to the station that will actually complete the dish so there is a constant need for excellent technique and often relearning.  Part of my job is that the cooks in the kitchen are exposed to these techniques so that they can do the job and we arrive at the completed dish together during the chaos and fury of a busy service

5. There are no real short cuts.....sort of contradicting myself here....what I mean is if you want to understand sauces you have to know the traditional mother sauce that came out of french cooking.  The principles learned allow one to be really creative or break the tradition and know why you are doing so.  Training is everything and then the creative expression follows.

6. You dont have to go to culinary school to be a good cook...you do have to work in several or often many different restaurants to get the real knowledge if you choose to work in this industry

7.The equipment in commercial kitchens is only a means to an end, the most important part is the creative human factor that will make the food taste delicious, look exciting and been full of nutrition to promote a healthy and energized life.


I don't know what kind of chef you are, what rank, may I ask?

1. The chef I know, have all sorts of knifes for many purposes, it's really a big set. But he cooks for a lot of people per day, 500. He's a hard working seasoned chef, not a boutique chef.

That kitchen looks more like a lab. You have for example a giant soup boiler attached to the ground with plenty of controls for temperature.

2. Industrial and pro gear will always exist in many areas, that's the reason why doctors don't go into surgery with fisher price medical kit - pink color.

3. No you can't cut kg and kg of fish and big pieces of meat in a home kitchen it's not reasonable, but my suspicion is that you've worked in a small place.

4. Well ambient is about the creation and release of personal works, with occasional collabs, so your example doesn't apply most of the time.

5. I'm a creative person, I don't have any problem with making ''sauces'' I'm not playing classical music, or reading/writing scores? Why do you think ambient is such a difficult thing to do?

6. Sure.

7. You should consider donating your expensive synths and gear.

Anyway...

Once again another person that comes to talk about ''it's not the gear, it's not the gear!'', when his studio has high end gear like the oberheim matrix 12 etc. Why do you insist in being hypocrite like this? Throw your gear out of the window and start to use what you preach to others, what do you think?




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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 13, 2014, 12:01:37 PM »

You Send me your gear, I can help you to get some balance.

You send me a very large check and I just might do that.  ;D

I don't care if other artists have smaller or computer based studios,

You completely missed my point but I'm not surprised.


No I did't missed your point. You don't downgrade from the pile of stuff you use, so please don't recommend us inferior solutions, that you will never use. It just makes you look like an hypocrite.

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''Hey here I am riding Ferraris and Porsches, but hey you common people can ride too!! I know a really cool bicycle store!''




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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 13, 2014, 08:53:28 AM »
Also, having a large pile of gear does not make one a great artist, their has to be a balance.

Sorry but I disagree, all artists that I enjoy have huge piles of gear, like professional chefs.

You Send me your gear, I can help you to get some balance.
Steve Roach
Robert Rich
Jean-Michel Jarre
Oophoi
Vangelis
Tangerine Dream
Etc, etc.

I don't care if other artists have smaller or computer based studios, I don't care if some dimwit in the middle of nowhere is doing ambient in his toy-like setup. My reference is those guys do I have to be more clear than this?? and many sounds I've heard during my lifetime are now tagged to specific synths while I was doing my research.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 06:04:33 PM »
Using your example of chefs, they have industrial ovens, refrigerators, special pans, cups and what not. :)

Do they have less passion than the ''home chef'' ?

You can make delicious home meals, but when you want to push the limits of things and yourself, you have to own some of these tools, that undoubtedly make the difference.

Here's a couple of pictures of well known chefs:







Go tell one of these chefs to use a so, so sad, toy-like, wrist-cutting and non creative setup like this:



While they can make cool things than most mortals in such setup, they will always want the meaty sound of animals like Prophets 05, Jupiters, CS-80 etc, etc, to touch the damn knobs and keys, TO F.. USE THEM, heck, even smelling the fumes of old circuits it's all part of the ritual.


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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 05:41:03 PM »
It's definitely not about the gear, it's about what's inside that drives one's passion and creativity to make music.
My gear is average, but my passion to make music is about emotions, images and conveying that as music......
That's what should drive one to make music and their passion may it be music or being a chef, etc....doesn't matter....find your inner passion and creativity and go forth and make it happen...

I appreciate your efforts, but the album I've listened from you - Alternate Realms 2, have good ideas, but the sound quality is not very good, I'm sorry. But this is what I'm discussing here, good ideas that are lost in the middle of weak setups. The weak link should always be you and not the gear, so if anything have to improve is the artist not the gear.

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I decided to edit some text. just want to say, that I really hope Tomas will change the situation in the future, coourse the ukrainian fans are most loyal. as for me - i never told that some parcel lost and I agree to take all the risks if the parcel will be lost, and pay once again if it happens. I just want to have music that I like - thats all!! Nothing more. Course Im ambient music fan! I like digipacks and clear quality digipacks!!

If you buy enough copies, 2000 euros of copies maybe, he can make an exception, in the end it's just about how much money you can spend.

Also he doesn't like bad english, but again if you make an order of 2000 euros or more, he can make again an exception.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 04:14:54 PM »
It's very little to do with equipment, studios or whatever - it's the desire for self expression, that is paramount.

Man, why don't you mix then with some desktop pc speakers and the built in soundcard in your pc?


Works pretty well for me. ;D


For me too, my workflow at the moment is recording to a Zoom H6 and edit with my laptop default soundcard. But this is a temporary solution  8)
 

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 03:55:05 PM »
I've tested sounds that evolve so much over time with little interaction, that the position of the artist is more of a driver. Expecially with things like wavetable oscillators found for example in the Ensoniq Fizmo (transwaves).

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 03:30:41 PM »
''Ambient is about the sounds, melodies play a very minor role, one could argue that ambient is not even music.

And it wont be a wrong conclusion as a single note can be an entire ambient piece. So I think it is correct to argue that there can be no structure in an ambient piece.''


If I lock a key for an organic drone sound and go for a coffee is it me or the synth playing music? Extasis was referring to melodies, indeed you can have the synth (s) playing for you multiple layers of drone sounds, arps etc with little to none interaction from you.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Alesis Andromeda A6 FS
« on: September 12, 2014, 02:15:46 PM »
Yeah that is the main reason I'm avoiding buying the Andromeda, too complex to program.
I have 2 offers in my city, one is the special one with the custom limited Hartmann panel for 3k. The other one is the regular silver techno style, but the guy is asking 3500 euros.

If they followed the same method of the V-Synth for programming it would be pure bliss, I have no trouble using it, actually it's a very interesting way of learning synthesis.


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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 11:47:38 AM »
Yeah APK is a friend of Tomas, so my view of this forum changed after noticing that, it's a lost cause.

Yeah I changed my nickname name so what? Are you from the nickname police?

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 10:48:33 AM »
Funny you created the gear offtopic....

I clearly commented a gear quote.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 10:32:22 AM »

care to post a link to your work ?


Care to post something that is not ambient, let's say something classic reading from a score? I would love to see that.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 10:24:29 AM »
I'm not saying a beginner should start with a Les Paul Black Beauty, I'm saying that a person with a certain artistic and technical level in another area can jump to a more pro gear oriented environment.

If I'm used to work with high resolution material for clients, why should I downgrade just because I jumped to audio?

It's just data in the end, images, video, audio, whatever. The better and precise your tools are the better your work will be, it's just common sense.






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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 07:28:58 AM »
It's very little to do with equipment, studios or whatever - it's the desire for self expression, that is paramount.

Man, why don't you mix then with some desktop pc speakers and the built in soundcard in your pc?

It has to do with the quality of the gear too
, or you might have trouble delivering the best sound to your public. That's why pro gear exists so you have access to tools way above the average consumer equipment. For me creativity is something spontaneous and accessible, that's why I love a lot of knobs and keys in front of me.

Yeah Kitaro made amazing tracks and he created polyphony by painfully recording over and over again to tape his mono synths. But do you want to go again to those times, do you want the technical part to be 98% and the rest the creative part?

I'm a Computer graphics artist, and a 1500 euros monitor is not enough to see if all my colors are correct, I still have to check my work in 3 or 4 monitors to make an average. And I'm not talking about particular colors, but a general feeling that is lost just by viewing your work in another screen. If your 150 euros monitor shows black as gray, that simple detail affects all the colors.

If my graphics card has very little VRAM I can't work with 4k textures and I have to work in little parts losing the work as a whole.

If all my work depends on a 150 euros TFT monitor I would be fucked, plain and simple, no matter how creative I am.

My answer to this thread is simple, deep inside you want all that pro gear, but because some of you can't make a living based in your unsuccessful work, you dig these quotes from famous people.

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Listening: Podcasts, Mixes, and Music Sample Clips / Re: Ambient on youtube
« on: September 10, 2014, 03:55:27 PM »
Of course Mike's music is great, to me that is obvious, he's one of my top artists. The question here is about visuals on ambient music and how that affects a track perception.

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Listening: Podcasts, Mixes, and Music Sample Clips / Re: Ambient on youtube
« on: September 10, 2014, 03:06:30 PM »
Why would you post this on the Hypnos website, specifically about Mike's music?  Seems like you could've made your point a different way.  Just my opinion.

Because it's an ambient related theme and I would like to read the opinion of others. Yeah you are right, I could made my point in a different way, but this is how it happened and I want to portray the conversation like it was :)

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Listening: Podcasts, Mixes, and Music Sample Clips / Re: Ambient on youtube
« on: September 10, 2014, 02:42:01 PM »
Hallå Extasis

Yeah that was the theme we were discussing the other day, but this real case with my friend here made me bring this subject to this forum :)

He was telling me that it wasn't because of the video and he really thinks that youtube track is actually better than the artists mentioned above. But I agree with you and his mind certainly has been tricked because of the video.

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