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That's a great album. Have you checked out some of the albums by 36? They are similar in spirit, at least in my opinion. There is a certain "sound" that I associate with some of the ambient that emerged in the early Biosphere days in the UK and Europe that isn't well represented in the US. I think both of these artists capture that spirit well.


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Favorite Klaus Wiese albums?
« on: December 05, 2018, 07:18:47 PM »
I haven't heard but a small portion of his expansive discography. The things that are most salient to me are some of the recent releases that Arc has published. In that set, I really like Ruh.

I realize we may never see Oak again, but I did enjoy those tracks.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: December 05, 2018, 07:12:48 PM »
I love Apsaras too.

Autumn of Communion - Reservoir of Video Souls
The next album from Lee and Nick, despite the fact that every album up to this point since the 5th AoC release has been the "last one." Glad they can't resist collaborating; this is great stuff.

ILUITEQ - Soundtracks for Winter Departures
Really well-crafted cinematic ambient music on ...txt.

"Drone Kaisers and Queens". Nice, Richard.  ;)

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 28, 2018, 10:09:35 PM »
Steve Roach  - Mercurius
Nice slow-moving pieces. I like this a lot.

Eternell - Haven
The perfect soundtrack to sleep.

Thanks, Castleview!

Regarding the generative question, I experimented with Reaktor Blocks and a few other tools/tricks (e.g., Scott's I-Ching suggestion). Reaktor Blocks was crazy, super fun, but ultimately wasn't quite what I was looking for.  (I only tried the free version, however.) In the meantime, I've settled comfortably into a "hacked" way of doing things: Producing samples, exporting them out of the FL Studio environment and into a program I wrote that (quasi) randomly triggers and modulates them over time, and then importing that composite sound file back into FL Studio for further tweaking and processing. This seems to work okay, even if it involves a lot of back-and-forth.

I've noticed that my music buying has diminished because I'm more likely to spend my late evenings with a beer and my novice studio now than a beer and some good CDs.  :(  Is this something that you've observed yourself? I've often wondered how the process of creating music affects the way one consumes it. When I listen to albums now I'm not only trying to get lost in the mood of the music, but also analyzing and dissecting it in a very clinical manner. Although that later process can be fun, it does kind of kill the mood in some ways.

I've read this thread about a hundred times over the past few weeks. I really appreciate everyone's input. It it fun to see you gear-heads get excited about this stuff.  :)

I have another question that I hope at least one person will be able to answer: Maybe because I'm a bit of a programmer, when I first started experimenting with ambient music, I naturally gravitated to generative processes: creating scripts that triggered sound sources, shaped their envelopes, and modulated them in ways that didn't require human intervention.

I'm having a hard time accomplishing that with a more traditional DAW. (I'm using FL Studio, for what it is worth.) Is there a way to reproduce that "generative feel" in an environment that is more playlist/sequence oriented?  I feel like I'm losing something spontaneous and unpredictable about the sounds when I have to manually adjust these parameters. And I feel silly just haphazardly placing audio clips on a playlist to simulate randomness.

Am I overlooking something obvious?

If you enjoy Snufmamriko and Warmth, you might like some of the other releases on the Archives label, especially from 2017. Yoyo's Ordinary Moon is especially nice: And the newer release by Luis Miehlich has some really beautiful tracks:

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 18, 2018, 08:11:08 PM »
I'm really enjoying the two new Eternell/Purl releases:

Still Light

and The Kindness of Clouds

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: September 23, 2018, 07:58:59 AM »
Variant - thru the cosmos [eta​/​aquariids]
New release from Hitchell of echospace fame. Two long-form tracks of deep space meditations. There is less groove in here than there is in some of his work, which really makes this stand out.

I really appreciate your responses thus far. I'll probably ask you some more specific questions based on what you've written, just because I'm super curious and inquisitive. But I want to fully digest these ideas first.

I've recently invested in some basic gear so that I can try my hand at making ambient music. Let me blunt: You all make it look (sound) so easy.

How do you do it?

I've read a bit about some of your workflows in various places in the Hypnos forums, but, if you're in the mood, I invite you to say a bit more here about how you work. I realize that is an open-ended question, so I'll toss out a few specific questions if those are helpful for inspiring a response. I also realize we have a range of experience on the forums, including others who recently starting messing about and those who have been at it for several decades. I'm curious to hear from people at all phases of their development.

1. Do you typically just experiment until something "clicks" and you feel inspired? Or do you typically have a aural version of a vision that you're trying to bring to life?

2. If you use synths, do you typically start with a preset and then modify it? Do you start from scratch (e.g., with basic oscillators) and build from there? I assume there isn't a "one way" you do things, but what are some of the common roads you follow?

3. Building on the last question: If you work with synths, do you typically stay within that local synth environment? Or does your final sound emerge as a result of chaining a source through multiple plugins/effects? (If the later, do you "futureproof" it by saving those sounds separately and banking them? Or is that typically not necessary?)

4. I assume there are some things in your arsenal that are "must haves." For example, I've read about the way many of you revere certain reverb plugins, like Valhalla. What are some of your essentials--hardware or software?\

5. Sometimes people say things that imply that the quality of your gear is less important that what you can do with it. The implication is that, with the right mindset, knowledge, and talent, it is possible to produce some amazing soundscapes. But, I must confess, some of the more pricey tools out there would seem to give users a huge advantage. Is that perception the result of being new to this? Or is it, in fact, worthwhile to drop a few dollars on some strong "bang for your buck" style synths/modules?

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: September 13, 2018, 10:35:35 AM »
Robert Davies - Mercurial
More mysterious soundscapes, with interesting unsettling moments.

Indigo Egg - Aten
A recent Matt Hillier project that combines Egyptian mythology and history with ambient and techno influences. Interesting.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: August 29, 2018, 03:17:45 PM »
Parallelism - Hier Matin
Loopy, grainy, and dreamy ambient on Tehnofonika. Not much in the way of melody, but full of interesting textures.

Some related sounds, released as a Various Artists compilation from the same label, Tehnofonika:

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: August 20, 2018, 07:27:06 AM »
Luis Miehlich - Silences
New artist on Archives. Diverse set of ambient tracks that blend together soft electronics and field recordings.

Sonmi451 - Angel EP
A single, 17-min track featuring a slow-moving, beautiful melody with layers of additional treatments. I enjoy putting this on repeat and having it on in the background for hours.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: August 08, 2018, 02:07:09 PM »
Waveform Transmission - V 2​.​0​-​2​.​9
A Rod Modell project that I only recently discovered. This is fantastic! Layered, textured drone spaces. No  beats, and a nice variety of frequencies.

Deepchord - Immersions
More Modell, but with beats. Frentic beats. Kind of interesting, but maybe a bit too busy.

Both releases on the very interesting Astral Industries label.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Blood moon 2018
« on: July 29, 2018, 07:40:31 PM »
Great photos!

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: July 18, 2018, 01:48:31 PM »
Ataxy - When the Lightning Falls
New artist on the Archives/Faint label. Pretty good soundscapes, with deep and rich textures.

Variant - thru the cosmos [pallas​/​perseids]
Slow-moving, spacious ambient dub from Hitchell. Mesmerizing.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: July 04, 2018, 07:34:00 AM »
Simon Lomax - A Strange Light
Got this tip from Richard. Beautiful slow-moving ambience, mostly guitar based, as far as I can discern. If you get a chance, check out the first track in particular (Watching the Vapour Form). It is especially enchanting.

Steve Roach - Molecules of Motion
This, and other Projekt titles, are on sale today on Bandcamp, so I picked it up. I like it okay, but I'm less partial to the sequenced work that Roach releases. I much prefer the drift-based soundscapes.

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