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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 16, 2018, 07:24:28 AM »
Steve Roach - The Magnificent Void
Max Corbacho - Resonant Memory of Earth
Michael Neil - Towards the Unknown Region - title track 8)

PS - if you have any visitors that play instruments that you don't or cant - just get them to record some improvisations and then, with their permission, you can start playing with that as a source.

For me it can vary…
I think exploring/changing sounds on a synth/keyboard/sampler is a good thing to do as you can discover something that can set off a whole sound/track/album (just make sure you save it if you can).
At the same time if you have something in your head, trying to carve/craft the sound to manifest it is also a good thing to do.
Sometimes being inspired by another piece of music or a sound heard in nature is also a good way to start – practicing hearing things is a very good idea.
Sometimes a sound I use in one track, usually in the background, may become the base or start for another – I used the last sound of Veils, Shadows as the first sound for The Quiet Labyrinth.
A lot of my sounds have been created from field recordings – rolling ball bearings down sheets of tin foil, rubbing a thin sheet of foam across the foam covers of microphone, opening a bottle of fizzy water, waving a large bird wing, making wine glasses drone, wind/ string/ percussion instruments to name a few possibilities.
Try playing instruments in different ways – violin bow on a guitar, tying the strings up and using it for percussion.

2 and 3.
Yep, most synths now have presets and user banks to save any tweaked sound to.
If I do use a preset as it is I like to pass it through a number of effects and changes to get a sound I like.
I have been known to pass a source sound through numerous effects, then pass the resulting track back through another set of effects (more than once). Sometimes having the same sound move through similar but not exactly the same set of effects can create a range of different soundstages – giving more depth/texture/colour – such as multiphasing a sound a couple of times.
Best to use carefully to create subtle sounds otherwise all you hear is the ‘effect’.
I have also used full wet reverb (with other effects) and then slowly wound the wet/dry mix down so that the original sound appears slowly out of the mists.

I tend to use my computer minimally – mainly for final editing of tracks – such as fade out, or for playing with effects again. I do not use a ‘computer’ computer to record at all.
I appear to have developed a studio based around toslink optical connections (minimising use of analogue/digital signal conversions)) – so I find good Minidisc recorders very valuable – my Sony has a very extreme pitch control that can make a second of real time last much, much longer (at lower frequency) – and I can listen to the results easily on portable player.
I use TC effects – TCM3000 and Fireworx. I like them very much – but tend to use certain presets and tweak them (one place where perhaps my imagination is focussed by the equipment rather than the other way round - see no 5).
I also use 2 work stations – Korg D16 and Roland VS2480. Both have their own on board effects and I often use them to record stuff and bounce back again – the Korg is very good for creating drone/loop effects through cut/paste and staggering.
I have also used EQ to separate different frequencies from a source sound and then move them apart in time.
The Korg has a stretch function that makes a sound longer but keeps the frequency the same if I want to.
I also used microphones and feedback during recording sessions to get subtle shifts on source sounds.

Hmmm, I think both can be true.
What soundscapes/ambient music do you want to create – what aspects of it are similar to musicians you enjoy and what sets it apart? Which of these aspects do you wish to focus on and which are spring boards to launch you into your own journey?
You have to make the sounds you want to make, so the advantage may not be from a big piece of equipment that makes a recognised and more ‘commercial’ sound, if that is what the big buck spending is geared towards. It may be a smallish spend on something that you know will help you create the sound you hear in your dreaming.
On the other hand if spending that money gets you something that makes you want to sit up all night and day making music then go for it.
Sometimes too much gear can inhibit creativity if it is not actively being utilised to manifest your own imagination.
My first album (this time round) was recorded using only a kids Yamaha keyboard, 2 microphones and the Korg D16. There was no ADSR on the keyboard so every note involved turning the volume knob up and down to get the slow drift on the musical parts I wanted – took a lot of concentration to keep that movement smooth…. No big gear, but it was picked up by a label as they liked it a lot.
If I was to try and do it now I would do it differently as I have more equipment, more range, more facilities, more possibilities - but it was the raw creativity, drive and passion that got it made in the first place.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 07, 2018, 12:24:24 PM »
On Saturday I was in a Hi-Fi shop having my headphone foam earcups replaced.

I had the enormous pleasure of listening to a number of my tracks, Eivior, Steve Roach, Klaus Schulze and Vir Unis on a system costing over £40,000....

Could really swim in the sound, heard my own stuff almost as I heard it in my head when making it.

The nice thing is that the shop staff were really interested - not just in what some of the music sounded like but also ides behind what I was doing and how the sound came out of the system.

These are guys used to listening to music everyday - not things like cardboard being ripped and sonically transformed - they stood there listening intently and on occasion moving around to feel where the subwoofer was focussing the really low frequencies. Was fun to see them impressed with a 2 inch movement of the cone....

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 01, 2018, 12:21:48 AM »
Vir Unis - Stand Still Like the Hummingbird 8)

Everything and Nothing / Re: A world full oblivion
« on: September 27, 2018, 11:10:14 AM »
Thanks for putting them up for me Jaja.

The camera has adjusted to the light available - given I was inside the canopy it is darker in reality than the pictures suggest...

Everything and Nothing / Re: A world full oblivion
« on: September 22, 2018, 09:20:30 AM »
Well, I went to visit the Yew tree. Was very much a first visit, a sort of introduction and saying hello.

It is an amazing tree - though not in the usual sense of hugeness. It was more a collection of micro ecologies, each deeply connected.
   The split trunk rises up out of the ground, which was covered in a deep layer of fallen yew berries - so many that when I walked out I had to scrape about an inch deep off my shoes and then hose them clean back at home.
   It is possible to walk up and through the gap between the trunks where the original tree centre appears to have turned into soil. There are numerous roots running from both sides interweaving with each other and forming rudimentary steps.
   There are the usual higher branches, many of which, yew like, are skeletal and patterned or twisted.
   There are burls both on the outside of the trunks and within the inner space that are sprouting dense short branches that look more like yew hedges.
   Some of the burls have died and the wood is a mixture of the yellow/brown and green. There are lichens growing in various places.
   In the centre of the trunks the wood is decomposing and some holes are visible through all the layers of wood. In one of the centres is a thick yew root that is clearly feeding another tree somewhere up in the crown area - impossible to tell where the old and newer begin and end.
   There are spaces where spiders webs have clearly been a long time and a profusion of thin and thick dead branches within the crown and central space.

The tree is clearly used by non-Christians, I saw a coin pushed into the dead wood in the centre and a variety of things hung up in the centre.

Here are some photos from the web - I took a few myself but I'm not on any image websites, so if anyone can assist I'll send some pictures over....

Note the root growing up through the centre of the tree.

Everything and Nothing / Re: A world full oblivion
« on: September 16, 2018, 11:28:39 AM »
I found out recently that a yew tree not far from here has been identified as 5000 years old - will go to visit it sometime soon.... 8)

Everything and Nothing / Re: A world full oblivion
« on: September 13, 2018, 12:26:37 AM »
How is the tree looking now?

Everything and Nothing / Re: Epic music?
« on: August 14, 2018, 04:29:38 AM »

Great music - What does the brass player have attached to his instrument at 0.48?

As well as being part of Throbbing Gristle before CTI

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: July 12, 2018, 12:41:09 AM »
Paul Vnuk Jr and Oophoi - Distance to Zero.

Very interesting mix of sounds and atmospheres

Everything and Nothing / Re: A world full oblivion
« on: June 20, 2018, 12:28:11 AM »
I've been reading 'The Overstory' by Richard Powers - highly recommended for nature / tree appreciators.
It carries both the awe and wonder and the concern / stupidity we have been discussing here...

Jokes, Nonsense and Amusing Links / Re: The Hypnos Joke Thread
« on: June 14, 2018, 01:25:03 AM »
A friend of ours was helping his young son get ready to go to school.

He noticed his son had put his shoes on the wrong feet and told him.

His son looked down, clearly confused, and he said 'I don't have any other feet'.....

true story.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: C: Drive crash
« on: June 12, 2018, 12:39:56 AM »
Ouch, sorry to hear that.
Is there no way to get the stuff back?
Given the technology  - can't you take the disks out and take them somewhere?

Hi Tardigrade, I was purely reflecting on my own thought processes, in response to what others have been saying, not making any judgement on anyone's actions.

As I said, given the technology available to do whatever with whatever, changing what someone has put out is an extension of making mixtapes.

I know that when I buy cd players I always by single disc players as I want to be conscious of what I am choosing to listen to. I don't have streaming services, don't use computer's to play music and never use random/shuffle mode on CDs or MP3 players - just my own personal preferences for listening.

Similarly when I am out in some beautiful part of the world I don't carry a music player as I want to listen to what's going on around me.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: June 04, 2018, 12:52:55 AM »
I was just listening to Roach and Obmana's Live Archive album yesterday. 8) 8)

I know there are even discussions about Mono being the best and only true representation of music.

Everything and Nothing / Re: A world full oblivion
« on: June 01, 2018, 01:28:57 PM »
good to see new leaves - but also !Ouch!  :o

Everything and Nothing / Re: A world full oblivion
« on: June 01, 2018, 05:37:33 AM »
How is that tree doing as the spring and summer comes?

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