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"Anyone know why producers are ruining recorded music?"

Because, unfortunately, it sells.....

perhaps a better question - Anyone know why people want to buy ruined recorded music?

Steve has worked in a particular way for a very long time, underpoinning all the music he creates.

Whatever we individually think about the metaphysics/spirituality/mumbo-jumbo, it is clearly important to him and he is not shy / ashamed of being open and honest about it.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Best DAW for Ambient Music 2015
« on: November 17, 2015, 01:59:35 AM »
Best of luck with getting the studio up and running, let us know what you get up to.

Unfortunately I don't use computer based recording (other than for effects or overall tweaking on an ancient version of Sonar) as my main recording process so can't give you any advise at all.

Independent Music Reviews / Re: My review of "Sector Four" CDr by Phobos
« on: November 03, 2015, 01:42:56 AM »
Very nice review 8)


Excellent news 8) ;D

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Seren Ffordd Thread
« on: November 01, 2015, 07:45:40 AM »

New release.
Fractured out now on Databloem ( and Seren Ffordd Bandcamp page (

The first act of any musician is to break the silence.
Rending the quiet by pouring sound into the waiting space, as savagely as a lightning strike or as gently as an unfolding rose.
I was intrigued by this sense of breaking, of the Fracture where the front of the soundwave disturbs the silence, creating the ripples that transform the still surface of a pond, Scattering reflections like a Shattered mirror. This album came out of a wish to hear sound Split and Torn.
What would a sound sound like if the frequencies were Peeled apart like light in a rainbow, if tones or sections come at different times or from different parts of the stereo image? What would they sound like if their edges were Blurred, Curdled, Sliced - Merging into and out of each other?
The ideas, music, titles and art all grew from this seed. This Breaking of the silence emerged together, not as a whole - but as the infinite flashes of light reflecting off spinning shards of glass.
‘Fractured’, is a journey into Splitting, Melting and Tearing. Many of the sounds are unrecognisable. Some appear more than once, but Slivered, Hacked, Severed into different shapes and tones.
A few are heard as they occurred, a contrast to the Broken edges around them.
One track includes a severe recycling of a previously released piece of music – the only other non acoustic sound is heard at the end of the album.
The music is at times Slow, Complex, Noisy, Harsh – it is in places Beautiful, Dense, Spiky.
Sources include: bird wing, water, tin foil, drum, gongs, cardboard, bells, beads, dice, gourds, voice, glass, bone whistle and flute.
Recorded in the StarWeb studio between 2008 and 2013 with Roland VS2480, Korg D16, Korg MR1, TC M3000, Sony and Tascam minidisc recorders, Sennheiser and AKG microphones, Sonar 5.
Dedicated as ever to my wife, for her patience.
I – Near Silence – 10.00
II – A Heavy Bone – 10.00
III – Broken by the Desert Heat – 10.00
IV – In the Shadow of a Heron’s Wing
V - Under the Stark and Dreaming Tress – 10.00
VI - Nothing is not No Thing – 10.00
Fractured was originally finished in 2012 and it has been a long journey to its release. Many Thanks to Dennis at Databloem for releasing the music on his label.

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Field recordings Blog
« on: October 27, 2015, 12:16:57 PM »
I've recently acquired a Sony PCM-M10 Recorder, which is a better unit than the Zoom H2.n I was using previously, in lots of ways. I hope to get some better recordings done with it.

Having been out and about recording recently has made me realise how difficult it is to get 'clean recordings' - devoid of traffic noise, aircraft noise, people noise etc. I wouldn't fancy being a sound-recordist full-time ! Maybe I need to go to the more remote places / the wilds.

hmmm, yes, nice looking piece of kit.

I find the better the equipment is, the more of the other noise seems to come in - very hard to find a 'clear' place

.....I've a set of AKG mics I can't use at home as they pick up the traffic really well, even through closed double glazing....

best of luck with the recording.

Great review. I miss him too.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 12, 2015, 06:43:55 AM »
I have a couple of his more tribal albums, still very good - mixing in ambient sounds as well as the drums etc.

I would highly recommend True North with Mathias Grassow - very cold sounding.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 12, 2015, 12:32:48 AM »
Roach and Obmana - Live Archive

Steve Roach - Life Sequence

Yamato - in concert DVD

Yes, good to have you back with us.

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Forrest Fang news
« on: October 06, 2015, 02:28:48 PM »
sounds very nice  8)

Yes, hope it goes well David

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: What synths did Oöphoi used?
« on: September 20, 2015, 12:55:48 PM »
Hi Earth Orbit - I'm sorry the way this tread went has upset you so much :'(

It had it's positive and negative elements, but the information re the synths he used in itself is still interesting.

The support he gave you is very similar to my own experience, so that is what I carry forward in my heart...

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: That Audiophile thing again
« on: August 18, 2015, 01:18:47 PM »

I remember being thrilled to hear the Echoplex tape hiss on "side 2" of Phaedra when I first heard it on CD.  :)

I had a similar experience when I could hear cello players breathing as they played on CDs - often the timing fits the playing in some way or other. for me it added to the music rather than distracted  - though if they were snuffling with a cold and sneezing that would not be nice.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: That Audiophile thing again
« on: August 16, 2015, 02:56:57 PM »
..... I've known a few true audiophiles and they are never satisfied.

Yep - I've met people like that too, I suppose it may be the same as some people into cars - always wanting a better one or collecting a number....

I think that my response to the article depends on whether I read it as saying that you can't improve the sound (having had a hi-fi in the mid seventies I can assure you the sound reproduction available nowadays is much better than what I had then) or that some people will believe any crap they are told about a subject that is important to them - whether that is music, god, alien abduction, politics, terrorism, market forces, beany babies etc etc.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: That Audiophile thing again
« on: August 16, 2015, 09:20:03 AM »
It is difficult to sort out the snake oil from the real effect...

but if none of it meant anything then the sound out of a mobile phone would sound the same as that out of a hi-fi...

After recently adding a stand alone dac to my hi-fi, every single person who has listened to music can hear the difference, I had one person get so excited they were searching my collection for music they wanted to hear themselves rather than what I might think to put on and it's been a long time since anyone was that excited.

I use a lot of toslink connections and again, medical grade glass cables sound better than the plastic ones....

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: August 12, 2015, 12:45:08 AM »
Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: July 11, 2015, 11:56:57 AM »
Astounding Sounds, Amazing Music - Hawkwind.

very much a mixed bag - but Steppenwolf was always brilliant

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Recording music without a computer
« on: July 03, 2015, 03:32:29 AM »
I first saw the VS2480 in a second hand shop - I asked if it had had much attention. I was told that a lot of people had shown interest, but only about 3 of us seemed to know what we were doing with it.

I didn't sleep all night and was back to buy it first light next morning.......

If you think of it as a mixing desk, recording desk and multiple effects you get a sense of what it can do.

Like any of the good sized daws (24 - 32 tracks) it manages to put a whole studio into a small space....

It does a shed load of stuff I've never used - if you are wanting to bounce down from multiple tracks to stereo you can 'record' the mix you make in real time and play it back through the motorised faders.....

In the end the hard disc recorders are still computers - they are just designed and set up differently to the macs or pcs - designed as a development of the recording industry equipment, rather than an extension of the computer design into other areas....

The way things are going you will be able to do all this from a smart phone, camera, fridge, car etc. I do find the 'globalisation' of design a little depressing and hope the manufacturers keep this sort of equipment going long into the future, giving musicians real choice.

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