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Everything and Nothing / Re: Why do the worst songs go on the longest?
« on: February 22, 2010, 11:56:49 AM »
This reminds me of a quotation from the late Gene Siskel:

No good movie is too long, no bad movie is short enough.

Now Playing / Re: Long Term Listening - your ambient classics
« on: January 18, 2010, 05:51:47 AM »
Speaking of lists of classics...a year ago, someone posted they were going to take up the cause of the All Time Greatest Ambient albums from the ambient mailing list.

I sent in my list, but I never saw the results. 

Anyone know what happened?

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New William Basinski
« on: January 18, 2010, 05:48:35 AM »
Where did you get it?

I was listening to The Drone Zone channel on SomaFM and heard an amazing song by William Basinski called "The Garden Of Brokenness".

I'd love to get it.  It's a long track but beautiful and mesmerizing.

Where did you get it?  It's not available on RMI's website and Amazon shows Jan 26 as the release date.

Now Playing / Re: Long Term Listening - your ambient classics
« on: January 07, 2010, 06:49:24 PM »
I'm not sure if all these fit the definition of "ambient", so it's a little of this, a little of that. 

The only thing I left off this list are hard-core Berlin school/sequencer stuff (probably more appropriate in the EMPortal forums).

23 Degrees - An Endless Searching For Substance
Al Gromer Khan - Turya
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works vol II
Ashra - New Age Of Earth
Banco de Gaia - Last Train To Lhasa
Between Interval - Secret Observatory
Biosphere - everything, but a few top favorites are:
Brian Eno - the Ambient series and many other titles
Electric Skychurch - Knowoneness
Evan Marc & Steve Hillage - Dreamtime Submersible
Giles Reaves - Wunjo (Joy)
Giles Reaves - Sea Of Glass
Global Communication - Pentamerous Metamorphosis
Global Communication - 76:14
Global Communication - Remotion
Harold Budd & Brian Eno - The Pearl
Harold Budd & Hector Zazou - Glyph
Ishq - Orchid (2 disc ed)
Johann Johannsson - Virdulegu Forsetar
Johann Johannsson - IBM 1401, A User's Manual
Johann Johannsson - Fordlandia
Kwook - Skywave
Mark Isham - Vapor Drawings
Michael Stearns - Planetary Unfolding
Moodswings - Horizontal
Richard Bone - several, but I'll name Distillation, his only compilation
Robert Rich - several, but Trances/Drones is a standout
Saafi Brothers - Mystic Cigarettes
Single Cell Orchestra (self-titled disc)
Sounds From The Ground - Kin
Stars of the Lid - everything, but these are masterpieces:
       The Tired Sounds of Stars of the Lid
       And Their Refinement of the Decline
Steve Roach - too many to name, but a few that stand out:
       Structures From Silence
       Dreamtime Return
       Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces
       Proof Positive
Telomere - all 3 of his albums
Tetsu Inoue - Ambiant Otaku
The Irresistable Force - Flying High
The KLF - Chill Out
The Orb - The Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld
The Starseeds - Parallel Life
The Starseeds - There Is Enough For Everyone
Torch Song - Toward The Unknown Region
Vangelis - L'Apocalypse des Animaux
Vangelis - Antarctica
Vangelis - Bladerunner soundtrack
Wendy Carlos - Sonic Seasonings
Woob - emt 1194

Some all-time favorite compilations:

A Taste Of Pork (Pork label sampler)
Barramundi (series)
Euphoria - Chilled Euphoria
Euphoria - Deep and Chilled Euphoria
Excursions In Ambience (series on the Caroline label)
Fahrenheit Project (series on the Ultimae label)
Feed Your Head (series on the Planet Dog label)
From Here To Tranquility (series on the Silent label)
Interior Horizons
Pop Ambient (series on the Kompakt label)
The FAX Compilation 1
The FAX Compilation 2
Compilations on the Waveform label like the AD series, Voodoo Roux, and Slumberland

Everything and Nothing / Re: We all get old
« on: December 23, 2009, 04:57:43 AM »
When he gets beamed up to the Enterprise, they'll need to use two transporters.

I don't have any Dakini.  What can you recommend as the best to seek out (in print or not)? I have my eye on "Sky Dancing Vol.2" as the cover art is gorgeous.

The cover art on all Dakini releases is fantastic.  They have beautiful packaging, all of them digipaks.

I agree with Austere, all albums by Makyo are really good as is Padmasana (a Makyo collaboration).  I also like all of the Sky Dancing series (compilations).

Orchid by Ishq is excellent.

I have no idea which of these are still in print.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Synthesizer tattoos
« on: December 21, 2009, 06:02:51 PM »
Conversely...I wonder if Tattoo ever owned a synthesizer?

Maybe a MiniMoog?  (sorry, couldn't resist)

We're on the other side, very into the whole Black Dog / Planet Dog /
not sure if Northern Circuits is an Ekko release we missed or a band on Interchill we missed?

Ah yes, Planet Dog.  One of my all time favorite compilation series was "Feed Your Head".  I'm lucky to have all 4.  They're all out of print now.

Northern Circuits and Magnetic Blue were two compilations from Interchill.  In fact, I think they were the first two releases on the label.  Both are out of print.

We look forward this week to checking out many of the recommendations - Dataobscura seems very popular!
Oh, and Mike, Interchill just really sucks. Wouldn't bother with them. Too many egos although there are some Good People as well.  And Dakini, forget about, we worked hard to try to get Gio to do wholesale w/a label, including 60% up-front payment, but he'd had "bad luck with wholesale in the U.S." and has just given up and won't even try. Not to mention it's not really Hypnos Store material.  Fortunately the Makyo CDs are all very wonderful and pretty timeless!

On the DataObscura/Blue Oasis label be sure to check out Kwook "Skywave".  One of my favorites.

I lost interest in Interchill when it seemed that so much of what they were producing was heavy dub techno stuff.  Not my cup of tea.  But their early releases are still some of my favorites, like Northern Circuits, Magnetic Blue, Interior Horizons and Centripetal by Ekko.

Is Makyo still creating music?  I have 4 of his albums from the Dakini label but haven't heard from him in years.

Darla: (Hammock - Maybe They Will Sing For Us Tommorow. great disc)
Data Obscura and Blue Oasis: (lots of good stuff here)
Hypnos: (of course)
Infraction: (Parks "Umber" is a great disc)
Kranky: (Stars of the Lid and Loscil among others)
Somnia: (only 9 discs so far)
Spotted Peccary:

Depends what you mean by "ambient".

Other labels I like:

Interchill: (not anymore though)
Dakini: (although they haven't had a new title in 2 years)

More retro electronic music (and sequencer stuff):

Ambient Live: (not very ambient by most definitions)
Ricochet Dream:

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Nodal - Generative Music Software
« on: December 18, 2009, 09:36:49 PM »
If you have an iPhone, you should check out the apps co-written by Brian Eno.

The apps are called Bloom, Trope, and Air.  They'll play music randomly, or you can draw your finger on the screen to play it.

They're kinda like Nodal (based on its description anyway, I haven't used it).

Sorry, I'm not really familiar with the artist Oophoi.

Can someone suggest a few favorite titles as a starting point?


A few months ago I bought a gadget called the Squeezebox Boom.

It's a standalone internet streaming radio.  It doesn't need a computer to work, just a wi-fi connection.

The Boom has built-in stereo speakers.  The build and sound quality are fantastic.  Mine sits on a side table next to my bed and I listen to Stillstream or Drone Zone (SomaFM) all night long.

Squeezebox makes several models.  The Duet might be the one you're looking for.  It's designed to be connected to a stereo system.

Those samples sound great.  I'm looking forward to the series.

I bought the iPhone apps co-produced by Brian Eno (Air, Trope, and Bloom).  They're fun to mess around with and the sound quality is surprisingly good.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: CDR prices too high
« on: November 15, 2009, 04:52:31 AM »

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Hello from Sweden + Recommendations
« on: November 13, 2009, 05:58:45 PM »
...and speaking of Sweden, I'd also like to recommend a Swedish movie, "Låt den rätte komma in" (or as it's known in English, Let The Right One In).  An excellent vampire movie, not like that Twilight trash currently making the rounds.

The movie has a great soundtrack too, by Johan Söderqvist.  It's a symphonic score but could be considered ambient in a way.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Hello from Sweden + Recommendations
« on: November 13, 2009, 04:18:48 PM »

A few more...

Between Interval (especially Secret Observatory)


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Hello from Sweden + Recommendations
« on: November 13, 2009, 11:05:29 AM »
Of recent music, I'd like to add...

Stars of the Lid - especially "Tired Sounds" and "Refinement"

Johann Johannsson - "Fordlandia" and "IBM 1401"

Hammock - "Maybe They Will Sing For Us Tomorrow"

And some older classics of ambient/electronic music:

Biosphere - "Substrata"
Global Communication - "76:14"
Aphex Twin - "Selected Ambient Works vol 2"
Michael Stearns - "Planetary Unfolding"
Brian Eno - "Music for Airports"

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