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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Music similar to Gas ?
« on: January 03, 2013, 03:14:51 PM »
I would go with the 90's ambient act known as Baked Beans.

Naturally they were a predecessor to Gas.  OH!  A zinger... ;D ;)

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Music to bring you down to earth
« on: December 28, 2012, 05:36:20 PM »
most of James Johnson's music.  The Butterfly Chamber is a good one. 

Also he teamed up with Alio Die in "Cube 7" and it pretty much fits what you're looking for. 

Lately I downloaded Emanuel Errante's Humus download on Somnia label.  Though I haven't heard Herion's Out and About, maybe those 2 albums could work.

Not sure if it's your style but I would also go for something like Marconi Union or Erik Wollo, when his guitar playing meshes with ambient (like Emotional Landscapes).

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Inspiring Story
« on: December 25, 2012, 09:55:01 PM »
Thanks for this! 

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Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Movie trailers worth a look
« on: December 12, 2012, 08:58:35 PM »
http://apps.facebook.com/theguardian/environment/video/2012/dec/12/chasing-ice-iceberg-greenland-video

Not exactly a trailer, but part of an upcoming movie about a pretty remarkable event.   

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Overrated Ambient
« on: December 09, 2012, 10:02:00 AM »
Actually Forrest, I'm a pretty shy person myself.  Jesse was my first big celebrity so I don't know why I bombed so much the 2nd time with Mr. Rich .  I didn't really approach him conventionally like an obtrusive fan.   Jesse put me up to it...  ;D

Don't forget that you stayed at this celebrity's house for a couple weeks too!  ;D

I even got to tour the place where all the magic happens, the Mysterium too. 

Call me humble I guess, just didn't want to brag  ;D

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Judd, I think it would be really cool if in "Paradise" Shaw and David find out the "real" aliens are the xenomorphs and that the Engineers were "robots", or genetic machines if you will, created by the xenomorphs, which will show how technology can get so streamlined with genetics and everything that it's hard to tell what is manufactured and what is a living being.  I don't know if this is one of the wacky ideas being tossed around, but I guess I really want the xenomorphs to be the real aliens because the Engineers looked like WWF wrestlers.   ;D

Are the xenomorphs really that intelligent?  I find it hard to imagine the prototypical Alien with his fangs and claws, looking through microscopes and holding delicate beakers!  They just don't seem like they have the patience if you will.  But it's pretty clear from Prometheus that the whole life generating and changing "goo" found in the vases became the xenomorphs (through the help of both human pregnancy and the engineer as the hosts), at least the one at the end of the movie.  Maybe if your scenario were true the original xenomorphs have far greater intelligence and are more evolved, wherein the aliens we are familiar with are just combinations of genetic breeding.  Not sure I'd be satisfied with that direction, but there is definitely the question of where the engineers came from and how exactly they were able to engineer anything (the best sci-fi explanation), if they decide to answer that at all.

Too bad that link went down, I watched it once more and thinking later, I may have caught a movie mistake:

Remember when Shaw stumbles into Weyland's room after the surgery?  There are numerous people surrounding him, including David and the "bodyguard" guy who ends up dying by the hands of the Engineer in the bridge.  I seem to remember a few extra people in that room- there were 2 very identical looking guys standing guard right at the door.  Is it me or were they completely unaccounted for later- happened to them?  Only people who died in the bridge of the Engineer ship were Weyland, the "bodyguard", the woman with the thick Scottish accent... anyone else?  It seemed some of Weyland's attendants were completely cut out and forgotten about- wouldn't they have come to the bridge of the Prometheus ship as it was taking off without Weyland (and about to go head-first into the other ship)?

Maybe they were in the rover waiting outside the big dome while all that was going down and never had time to make it back...

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Brian Eno "Lux"
« on: December 04, 2012, 05:53:18 PM »
here you go, have an impression:

 
Brian Eno - Lux - Full Album 2012

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I'll have to get back to you DroneOn, but in the meantime, if anyone needs a refresher, as long as this may remain up on youtube: 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NYoLcH72QCc

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I think I'll let the mystery be on this one, DroneOn.  There are couple half-baked ideas but just wackiness I haven't really thought it through at this point.  "thought it through"- yeah like there's really some kind of logical process in all of this!

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You didn't imagine it.  The alien is a form of a crucifix... just wait till the fundamentalists hear about this  :)




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Welcome aboard DroneOn to the True Believer fanclub  ;)

I even heard there might be a Alien/Blade Runner tie-in but these are how crazy rumors get spread.  No matter how you slice it, it seems as if RS is going for Legacy-Franchise status. 

There is another apsect I forgot to mention that I noticed in the DVD but not in the movie.  Also thanks in part goes to that video of the Prometheus walkthrough:  Apparently there is a Christianity backstory that seems like it may very well get answered.  I didn't think much of it the first time but now it is so blatantly obvious after about 3 rounds of watching. 

The Prometheus walkthrough mentioned this and was using some outside references (even suggesting that Jesus may have been an Engineered superhuman or something), but look at the evidence:  The Engineers had been asleep for about 2000 years when they were embarking on their mission to destroy humanity.  The Prometheus vessel arrives on the planet Christmas Day- remember the captain setting up the tree?  Shaw's character is deeply religious and her faith is tested w/multiple references.  Her pregnancy is "immaculate" though with destruction and not with salvation. 

These are just some of the loose ends that have hardly been loosened, much less tied up.  It'll be interesting to see how it works out.  I'm not a big fan of any supernatural or Christian underpinnings so hopefully it steers clear of that direction. 

Another deleted scene I forgot about was between Vickers and Weyland.  It's basically the same thing where she "kisses him goodbye" in a not so warm fashion, she knows he's going to meet his fate, you learn she is his daughter, and it lasts a bit longer than the scene in the movie.  BTW how old was he when he had her?  I mean she looks about 30, he looks about 130!  Viagra of the future must be a hell of a drug... I actually liked the deleted scene better, and in it she does mention "that worm" or whatever squirming around in the medic room.  So it's as if they were aware of the alien but not of what it would turn into or that it would grow so quickly.   

I read something else that mentioned a possible debate within Shaw's character whether or not to attach the android's head in the sequel.  Sounds like she may continue to be suspicious of his motives even without Weyland in the picture.  I have to wonder that she would need him fully equipped, in body to help her at all, assuming the Engineers will be hostile, but who knows?  Maybe the aliens will be running the madhouse, and strange alliances develop... such a vast landscape in front for this 2nd movie, no idea how they'll do it, but eager to see.

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Well after a couple viewings on DVD after one theatrical viewing, I still hold it in a positive light. 

Just addressing a couple criticisms of the movie...  The Music:  Were people expecting a more "Alienesque" scarry ambient music?  I know I was at first, and the more melodic, slightly symphonic and choral music surprised me at first, but let's face it.  This movie is more of a grand beginning, an exploration with the highest of hopes, of the wonderment of a distant and remote world and culture unknown.... and the obvious melancholy, menacing undertones- the opening music (which also plays while David is toying around with the engineer's controls of the holographic universe) sets the scene perfectly. 
Prometheus Theme Song



In fact the music has a more Star Trekkian feel and that's appropriate.  Big adventure, big stakes, and big discoveries, good and bad (well, mostly bad  :) )  The cold isolationist ambient of Alien isn't really the right tone you want. 

Anyway the Star Trek reference leads me to the next often criticism  The Dialogue- this was a very corporate, top-down mission for many of the members of the crew.  The parts where the captain is flying the ship, it all seems appropriately regimented, if not cheesy at times.  I just wonder if this criticism would have been leveled to the dialogue had this been a Star Trek movie, for example- doubtful.   I do love the spontaneous dialogue and free-for-all tension in Alien, and Ridley Scott said that he often "pushed the actors' buttons" while putting the camera on them.  There isn't much of that in Prometheus, and I would say the dialogue in Alien is better, but Prometheus does have a few moments of sheer WTF anachary as people are completely put out of their element. 

Also the character of the Captain:  for all the criticism of the geologist and the biologist, I really liked the Captain. There's more of his character than meets one viewing and upon second viewing I liked his acting and considered him the strongest and the hero of the 2nd tier characters. 

I understand the blu-ray version is pretty beefy with extras and has a fight scene between Shaw and the Engineer.  From the bits I saw and hearing Scott's explanation, he rightly left it out.  Also there's one extra scene I saw on the DVD I'm really glad they left out.  It was a fight between Hathaway and Shaw right before he unknowingly impregnates her with the alien.  It's just such a weird and unbelievable exchange, very much like Deckard and Rachel in Blade Runner, that it left me feeling relieved that they let it go...

Anyway rumor is the sequel will be called "Paradise", perhaps an ironic title for sure... looking forward to it.

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That is awesome, Saul.  Thank you and best wishes on this.





Hi Antdude,

I actually manage my digital distribution myself. So, I will probably see a few coins come my way from your purchase so thank you. I've noticed that online sales have significantly dropped in the last year. I think more people are just streaming through Pandora and downloading less.

I'm actually in the process of removing my music from online stores as it's costing too much to maintain. I pay about $50 per album per year and most bring in little more than this. It's just a bad deal unless you're selling a lot of music. As a replacement to this, I have started building a band camp site that I will focus all my efforts on. This will be where all my new music is released. Band camp has the ability to socially activate your music unlike any other site I have seen. In a way, you set it free and allow each album to spread to those who want it.

While on this subject,  It's with great pleasure to announce that Zo Pilots is now on Band Camp with a very special surprise! Fissure Docks, An unreleased track originally intended to be on Zo Pilots, turns up on a DAT tape! I pulled this song at the last minute and replaced it with some live material. I always wanted to make it available and thought this would be a good time to this.

copied straight from DAT with no modern processing.

Listen or download here:

http://saulstokes.bandcamp.com/album/zo-pilots



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Thanks Drone On, for the heads up on this.  This is available in download form in at least a couple places.  I've listened to it just half way before falling asleep last night but it's one of those deep space gems with an original sound.

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Bruno Sanfilippo "Piano Textures 3" CD

 The album unfolds soothingly with minimal, but expressive piano tune backed by captivating natural sounds of bird calls or cow bells.

Exactly, yes I was thinking his music could use more cow bell  ;D

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Overrated Ambient
« on: October 05, 2012, 11:04:12 AM »

Yes, I agree.  The music that I enjoy the most appeals to me on a very subjective emotional level, and brings back memories associated with it, too.  For me, that would be progressive rock.  I think it's very similar feeling to being a longtime fan of, say, the Chicago Cubs.

Years from now, after the wars, a tribe will rise from the ashes of humanity.  Finding a dusty cd called "Gongland" in the rubble, the newly inspired tribe along with their god "Fang" will lead us to a thousand years of peace and prosperity. 

Probably not what you intended with your work, but what the hell?  If it works for them...

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Overrated Ambient
« on: October 04, 2012, 07:51:36 PM »
And clearly Rainforest is not overrated?  Ive not heard it.....need to change that.

Julio, I'm not sure about it being rated super-high by most.  My feeling is people highly rate several of his works:  I imagine he gets plenty of Stalker references, probably also Trances & Drones, and maybe Strata and Fissures.  (a lot of collaborations in there, but Robert's influence is plenty in all cases)  I just don't know if his later works receive as much kudos, maybe Echo of Small Things & Calling Down the Sky have come close to the status of the aforementioned. 

Rainforest is probably mentioned but I doubt it's consistently listed as a favorite or whatnot.  On the other hand it was kind of an important release for his career.  As was said it was his first Hearts of Space release and most likely his highest selling so there are definitely a lot of people who at least valued it highly at one time.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Overrated Ambient
« on: October 04, 2012, 07:42:11 PM »
Jesse was my first big celebrity so I don't know why I bombed so much the 2nd time with Mr. Rich .

Hi Judd,

If it makes you feel any better, I remember being really excited about meeting one of Steve Reich's soloists, who happened to be staying in my school dormitory during a new music festival.  After telling her how much Reich had influenced me, I gave her a copy of my second album, which she promised to give to him.  I never heard back from him, which was really a bummer.  I once had the chance to approach John Cage (at the same new music festival), but lost the nerve because I couldn't think of anything to say to him that wouldn't sound lame.

Forrest

It's cool Forrest, but thanks for that.  I realize now what is well enough obvious, that I'll just treat them like another human, and the fact that they made some piece of work that highly influenced me or makes me nostalgic, to them could be just as irrelevant given a million scenarios (so many listeners, the artist has moved on, etc). 

Gongland however, got me through a very trying summer one year... that's all I'll say for now.  ;D

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Overrated Ambient
« on: October 04, 2012, 07:30:37 PM »
When I met Robin Guthrie backstage at a Cocteau Twins show in '93, I offered my "Moon and the Melodies" cd for him to sign.  He said, "You actually like this?!". I was a little disappointed with that reaction, but he was still nice about it.  He was almost embarrassed by it.  He wanted to talk about how nice Harold Budd was instead of the music.  Years later he talked about how his drug problem was a part of slagging off his own work.  I don't think an artist should hold back if there's something they did they aren't proud of, even if I happen to really like it.

That's pretty candid talk from the artist, and I guess you could appreciate the honesty while letting you down softly there.  You know, now that I think about it, that is an album I'll vote as somewhat overrated.  I like Harold Budd's contribution to it but the CTwins as talented as they are, have done a lot better. 

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Overrated Ambient
« on: October 04, 2012, 10:44:40 AM »
Doombient's wack, but that Stephen Parsick can rip shit up...

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