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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: Yesterday at 02:38:06 PM »
Klaus Wiese made wonderful music for instance "Towers of the Night part I" that I absolutely love.
There is such a mystery and inner calm within the music. The music is so lively and played with such a sensitivity.

Yes, Ming Noir's a nice one.  My favorites of his are Uranus, Soma and Allah Infinity (Ruh).  He really gets a great organic sound from those processed Tibetan bowls.


Hi John,  Yes, I agree.  Shouldn't topics like this be frozen or even deleted?

Maybe you should send the source in your PM an email to ask to verify this story and you could then you can build your own judgement

No thanks.  You dug your own hole.  I have no desire to join you down there.

If you have no interest in digging the truth then you should maybe reserve your judgement and opinion just saying.

It's clear to me that if this anonymous person exists, you don't have the authority to speak on his/her behalf.  Don't take us all for fools.

It seems to me that you care for the artist more when they are dead then when they are alive.

Yep.  Though for all we know, this may give him too much credit.  What if he's downloading those releases illegally, too?  ;)

Hi John,  Yes, I agree.  Shouldn't topics like this be frozen or even deleted?

Maybe you should send the source in your PM an email to ask to verify this story and you could then you can build your own judgement

No thanks.  You dug your own hole.  I have no desire to join you down there.

Hi John,  Yes, I agree.  Shouldn't topics like this be frozen or even deleted?

Ekstasis, not identifying this other person puts you a bit of a pickle, because the accusations you are making could form the basis of a claim for defamation.  Do you realize that if you are forced to defend yourself against such a claim, you might have to "out" that person?  If Tomas did not have Wiese's consent to use his recordings for a collaboration, that would be very troubling, but at this point we only have your third-hand statement from an unidentified person.  I take it that your statement that the DAT tapes were entrusted to this unnamed person is not something you personally witnessed, but only something you were told by this unnamed person?  Lastly, would this unidentified person want you to be making these public statements in the first place?


From the El-Culto webpage:

Klaus strongly believed that messages through music can only be fully recognized and appreciated in "small steps", concerning both the future and the continuous expansion of the human mind.

"There are levels the human psyche can be taken towards, which connect beings to one another. It is like the proverbial upside-down pyramid. Thus, it is also a metaphor for life. As listeners travel this path of a conscious 'mind flux', they gather tools along the way. Some tools are intellectual, some are emotional, and some are devotional. All of the tools are, to some degree, spiritual". (Klaus Wiese)

Definately I agree and share his thoughts although I never met him.

I just checked the El Culto page for Klaus Wiese and did not find the last sentence in the above paragraph there.  Stargazer, I'm assuming that you are not attributing the last sentence to Tomas Weiss, and that that last sentence is your own personal statement only?  (When I originally read this last sentence, it sounded like you were attributing it to Tomas.)

Yes, I think consent is the issue here.
And this, if I'm not mistaken, is Ekstasis' point : Does Tomas Weiss have consent for what he is doing with Klaus Wieser's work?

I think Ektasis seems to believe that he doesn't, but I'd like to know what his factual basis is for believing that--otherwise, he risks defaming Tomas.



I don't know how I would feel - which brings it back to each individuals personal choice.

I agree.  The artist's consent to making his music available after his death is key.  It makes me think of Prince and his vast library of unreleased material.  It bothers me to think that much of it might become available publicly, whether he wished it to be or not.


Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: May 20, 2016, 06:42:33 PM »
Forrest: What are your thoughts on the new Robert Rich album you mentioned? I've only been able to find short samples of it online and can't really gauge it well from those alone.

Chris, I'm probably not the most objective person to answer this, since I heard a bit of while it was in progress and contributed some sounds that Robert manipulated and processed for his piece.  It's a slightly dark work, given the subject matter (life after humans are gone, but with other lifeforms emerging).  In terms of textures, some are abstract and soundscape-y, though there are also familiar ambient and melodic voices and tonal beds, too, and occasional percussion.  The pieces flow into each other nicely, much like Robert's other works.  I like it.


Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: May 20, 2016, 06:33:09 PM »
.Im intrigued how most piece that I have listen to start with  long single note drones out of the left channel and the right comes in a fair bit later. Curious and at first annoying in a way or better put attention demanding.

Julio, I think some of her pieces may have been intended for multi-channel playback or for at least speaker playback.  I prefer headphones, too, for the detail, though I'm probably missing some of the effect of having the sound bounce around in my space.

Another album you might like from an early 70s EM pioneer is David Behrman's On The Other Ocean.  He uses algorithmic software to interact with live musicians (oboe, cello).  Some of it is very beautiful:


Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: May 19, 2016, 06:26:51 PM »
Thanks, Julio.  Radigue is very unique.  Once I got past my initial reaction ("test tones??"), I could hear more subtle textural things happening on almost a subconscious level.  I'm also just getting into her "Jetsun Mila" release on Lovely Music.  Will have to check out transamorem transmortem soon.


Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: May 18, 2016, 09:33:32 AM »

Recent listens:

Eliane Radigue - L'ile Re-Sonante

Awesome. I thought I was the only one here who listened to her music.

Hi Castleview,

I had a hard time tracking this album down, but am glad I did.  She manages to say so much with seemingly so little.  My favorite kind of minimalism.

That Shirotsubaki sounds nice.  Reminds me of Hakobune's work.


Saul Stokes has a new release/art object coming out soon.  Really nice design:

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: May 17, 2016, 09:16:41 AM »
Dreams is a really nice one--probably ranks among Gigi's best.

Recent listens:

Robert Rich - What We Left Behind
Fellirium - Remembrance
Eliane Radigue - L'ile Re-Sonante
Schneider Kacirek - Shadows Documents
Von Zamla - No Make Up!
Creation VI - Myth About Flat World
Erik Wollo - Silent Currents 4

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: recording for beginners
« on: May 16, 2016, 08:10:13 AM »
I like Native Instrument's Komplete audio interface--pretty reasonable price and relatively quiet:


Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: May 15, 2016, 08:34:01 AM »
For those who may not be familiar with drone on's parting shot, here it is:

"I don't think of any of this as "now we're even." .And what apology?  Nobody owes me an apology.  Again, can't a guy make a simple joke here?  Without people saying how dare you joke with a respected artist?   What do you mean "You're no saint"?  Now you're hurling insults and turning this personal?  I sense some latent hostility left over from 15 years ago, which you alluded to when you dredged up my old forum moniker "Orion32.". And you did that because I simply stated you hadn't read the posts carefully about the Planetary Unfolding CD topic.  Very sad.  I think you take yourself far too seriously and get pushed out of shape if anyone challenges you in the very slightest degree.  How about I just say you're an arrogant know it all who probably got picked on in school and beat up for being a little wussy smart ass?  You wanna get personal, you got it Forrest.  I've played nice with you here for awhile now and I THOUGHT the past was the past, but I see you haven't changed.  To the others who jumped on me like sharks over my joke, you're no better than Forrest.  Especially you Tomas Weiss.  Look how I defended you and stood in your corner when you and your label were being attacked on this forum.  And then you join the wolf pack and show your true colors.  Actually you are the master here of insulting people and inciting dischord.  Why are you even still on this forum?  Nobody likes you.  While I'm at it, Hypnos is a fucking joke now.  You put out one CD a year that nobody buys.  You spend all your time emailing everyone once a week to sell old CDs for $5 nobody wants.  And you cry you have no time to release new music?  Nobody here wants to say it .  Well I just did.  I hope the moderator has enough balls to leave this post for all to see, but he probably won't because he's a self righteous wussy like Fang.  Please just remove me, ban me the whole nine yards.  Don't waste your energy notifying me either.  They won't be read, only deleted.  So fuck off Forrest and the other assholes, they know who they are.  Hypnos sucks.  Please stop this charade of pretending to be an ambient label.  Good luck with your $5 sales and washed up label. Take me off all your lists and please ban me for life!  I won't fucking miss it one bit!!! 😝😝😂😱😎"

If this isn't a "burn your bridges" message, I don't know what is.  By not calling out drone on on his personal attacks, you become enablers.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: May 14, 2016, 05:05:06 PM »
Things are eerily quiet here since the loss of Drone On !!

Anthony, Chris/drone on/Orion32 certainly had things to contribute, but he also made a lot ridiculously hostile ad hominem comments things to people here, including myself.  If I remember, he overstayed his welcome in his previous Orion32 guise, too, many years ago.  I don't miss him or his rants.


Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Modular Musings
« on: May 11, 2016, 09:53:24 AM »
Patch #32 came to me much more quickly then past patches......started out by doing some basic self teaching patches of a complex oscillator to learn features and function which then lead to what if I sent this out to that and......well in no time at all the entire system got involved.
Patch 32

Nice one, Julio.  Very floaty textures.  That patch could easily be the soundbed for a longform piece.  :)


Everything and Nothing / Re: RIP Tomita
« on: May 10, 2016, 11:37:17 AM »
One of the things I liked about Tomita is that he wasn't a purist.  He didn't limit himself to one type of gear or even to synthesizers alone and was liberal in his reinterpretations of Debussy, Stravinsky and Holst.


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