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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Robert Rich: Ylang
« on: March 05, 2010, 08:51:57 AM »
Joseph, I agree, Robert has a special ear for bringing together musicians from different backgrounds and finding interesting points of intersection.  It's almost a progressive sound, in the positive sense of the word.  (Glad you liked my brief solo, too:))  It can refreshing to hear music that has been "played," instead of "laptopped."

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Michael Moore - Capitalism: A Love Story
« on: March 05, 2010, 08:46:30 AM »
The "no holds barred" section was deleted many moons ago.  This topic would probably qualify for that section.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Chopin 200 years
« on: February 26, 2010, 08:25:46 AM »
Hey, DeepR.  Thanks.  Didn't know it was (or about) Chopin's 200th.  He is definitely one of classical's biggies, and a deep and complex one, too.  My favorite interpreter of his work is Artur Rubinstein.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Board Advice
« on: February 25, 2010, 08:14:55 PM »
Keep your output to your pace/level, the hell with everyone one else.

All kidding aside, I think that type of attitude is likely to drive our tiny genre past irrelevance.  Maybe this answers the question why others may have stopped listening.  Better to think of yourself as a representative of the genre itself, you might feel differently about it.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Board Advice
« on: February 25, 2010, 08:47:22 AM »
You forgot one...6.  Thou shalt express more humility about one's own prodigious output on public bulletin boards.  ;)...

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: February 21, 2010, 10:36:02 AM »
Andrew Chalk - The Cable House (very happy to see released on CD, as the limited vinyl disappeared rather quickly.  Comparable to Goldfall, but I like it even a bit more.)

Forrest

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Hey, this sounds very cool.  I'll be sure to check it out.  Have you heard of Ellen Fullman, Harry Bertoia or Robert Rutman?  They done some very interesting work with experimental bowed string instruments, too.

Forrest

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Robert Rich New CD and Tour
« on: February 21, 2010, 10:32:26 AM »
Since I contribute violin to 2 of the album's tracks, I've already had a sneak peak of it, and really enjoy it.  It has a slightly dubby feel in places, has a pleasantly melodic feel elsewhere, and incorporates some very interesting South Indian flute and percussion, too.

Forrest

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Congratulations, Sara! 

I haven't heard the first two (yet), bu I'd highly recommend the third one, which has some very interesting soundscapes coupled with Sara's layered and processed ambient choir.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Projekt wants you to fight piracy!
« on: February 19, 2010, 10:25:46 PM »
The problem with a returns policy, at least when it comes to CDs, is that some will abuse it by simply making a digital copy.  Also, I don't see how you compensate a label for having opened up the CD and returned it.  Yeah, I've wasting money buying CDs (and albums) that I ultimately didn't like, but that's why I would check for reviews or hear what my friends thought of new releases.  Re the "music wants to be free" strain, there seems almost a naivete about the concept that ignores the economic realities of releasing a visually and aurally interesting album that people would want to keep.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Questions for artists and labels re: Piracy
« on: February 19, 2010, 01:56:05 PM »
I pretty much agree with what Mike said, so I don't have much to add, except to concur that the overall situation sucks.  As for major label stuff, that argument about the quality of releases has been around for some time.  I'm not sure that the quality of major label releases is any better or worse than it was 15-20 years ago.  That said, I think that the majors took more chances in the 70s, and I prefer some of the non-commercial music that came out of that era.

Forrest

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3. Now you're duking it out with classical music fans (and only a percentage of them) and film score fans. Of course quite often to reduce our chances even further we like to mess with or eliminate the structure for good measure(pardon the pun) so we get moved further to the back of the popularity line.

Steve

I actually find ambient and classical to be very compatible musics with substantial overlap in certain areas (like longer form pieces with expositions that take some time (and patience) to develop, and elements of repetition and minimalism, or ambiguous tonalities).  There's no reason for a listener to have to choose, unless you're making a desert island list. I think, though, that an ambient piece could suffer by comparison if not enough attention is paid to creating an interesting structure or form.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: RQ015 - what are the "rules" of ambient music?
« on: February 17, 2010, 01:44:16 PM »
What I want to know is what Brenholts would've had to say about this.  This thread has his name written all over it;)

Forrest

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Mastering from The Masters?
« on: February 17, 2010, 01:41:10 PM »
Blackinfinity, I don't you'd find many who would disagree with your last statement.  But I think it's important not to confuse a distaste for absolutes with shutting down the learning process.  As the cliche goes, you only realize how much you know by knowing how much you don’t know.  I agree it can be counterproductive to turn music-making into a chore, but if can also be worth it if you see a benefit in the results.  What I don’t like about the “good enough for ambient” ethos is the way it seemingly encourages beginning artists to treat their preliminary doodles as a finished product, instead of taking the time to shape and re-shape the form and sonics of their music.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: February 17, 2010, 08:29:18 AM »
The brilliant thing about a forum like this is what Forrest just said...   "Fabio Orsi--there's one guy who oversaturated the market with his ambient releases."   

Humorously - I've hever heard of Fabio Orsi. 

;-)

Maybe I should have qualified that last comment.  I'm talking about the number of releases (some 10-15 in the last 2-3 years).  No, you won't see a Fabio Orsi CD at Best Buy.  John, I'd have to say that you're at the other end of the spectrum.  When's your next one?

Forrest

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Mastering from The Masters?
« on: February 16, 2010, 08:43:55 PM »
What really hacks me off is the oft-stated opinion that standards themselves are relative.  I think at worst this exposes lazy thinking, which seems to be a particular hazard of our genre.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: February 16, 2010, 08:41:01 PM »
Gianluca Beccuzzi & Fabio Orsi - Please Don't Count The Clouds - 3x3" CD-R's
(Super limited release from 2007 but for me the best moment from either artist....three long pieces one from each and one collab....the collab piece is my favorite...this from what I remember was one of the best from 2007)

Fern

Fabio Orsi--there's one guy who oversaturated the market with his ambient releases.  His work on Please Don't Clouds is probably among my favorites of his, too.  Haven't liked too much of what he's released more recently--at least, since his Audio For Lovers compilation (which had some very good pieces on it, too).

Forrest

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Hypnos Label Releases / Re: RELEASE: Jeff Pearce - Daylight Slowly
« on: February 16, 2010, 08:35:12 PM »
Nice to hear that this disc is back in print.  It's probably my favorite of Jeff's ambient releases.  Two other limited releases of Jeff's that deserve the reissue treatment are Summer Solstice and Songs For The Gathering.

Forrest

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I think the mentor concept makes more sense if you are just starting out.  Otherwise, I think you'd be better off speaking with your peers, especially ones that are geographically closest, and getting a feel for what techniques and setups that they prefer, then listening to see if your ears agree.  That said, one of my most valuable lessons was listening to and observing Bob Ohlsson master my Gongland record at Hearts of Space.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: February 13, 2010, 01:12:55 AM »
Having recently seen Richard Goode perform some Haydn, I've been on a bit of a Haydn kick lately:

Haydn - Complete Piano Sonatas (Carmen Piazzini)
Haydn - Piano Trios 27-30 (Ensemble Trazom)

Forrest

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