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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Fabio Orsi
« on: November 27, 2008, 12:20:12 AM »
You've got me curious about this guy, and I am wondering what I should get for the first one, and where to get his albums. (it is funny to see all the different responses when one asks the "if I only get one album, which should it be" question...)

I'd start with Orsi's "Music For Lovers" release.  It is a two-fer at a decent price, and has several of his 3" releases on the second disc.

Forrest

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Periskop
« on: November 27, 2008, 12:18:11 AM »
Interesting project.  I've done a few of the pieces (there are quite a few) and have been enjoying the skeletal deep industrial dub.  Reminds how much I enjoyed Kreutzfeldt's netreleases from a few years back.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 27, 2008, 12:16:29 AM »
The Threshold of Silence (Umbra compilation): awesome spacemusic w/lots of guitar drones courtesy SiF, A. Baker, P. Bradley, Troum, etc. Glad I snagged one of the last copies from El Hypnos Store.

I enjoyed this one, too.  Probably my favorite of the Umbra comps I've heard.  The Paul Bradley piece is great, every bit as good as "Cede."

Tonight:  Adam Pacione - With Wakened Eyes (very fine (and limited) reissue of drone-based album that is a cousin of sorts to his 'Sisyphus' release.  Thanks to Jason of Infraction for carrying this.)

Forrest

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Fabio Orsi
« on: November 18, 2008, 01:28:56 PM »
I've reccommended it before in the past but you should really check out his 3" on Locus Of Assemblage "Birds Are Smart But They Cannot Speak."  I haven't heard to many people respond to this release but perhaps Forrest could comment on it if he has it?
Fern

I agree, that's a pretty good one, too, though there is a little bit of basic acoustic guitar strumming on it that I found a little distracting.  Great drones, though.  Other Orsi 3"'ers I have liked are "The Psychedelic Power of Bubbles" and "Please Don't Count the Clouds" ( a 3 disc "split" with Becuzzi).  I would add "Sound Postcards" (an early split with Becuzzi) to the nonrecommends list.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 17, 2008, 08:11:02 PM »
Mark,

I have a CD reissue of the EInstein 70s version, so it must have been available at some point.  The Nonesuch version is longer and more recently recorded, but apparently not as good.

Recently played--Wire - Project 47 (great!)

Forrest

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Fabio Orsi
« on: November 17, 2008, 08:09:17 PM »
Glad to see you've been Orsified!:)

Forrest

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: 2 eno titles
« on: November 17, 2008, 08:08:44 PM »
Haven't heard either, but some tracks Eno had recorded with Robert Fripp appeared on a CD-ROM in the mid-90s called "Head Candy."  There was also an instrumental album Eno recorded called 'Textures' that had a lot of alternate mixes of pieces that had appeared on Shutov Assembly.

Forrest

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While I don't feel I have enough information to fully weigh in on this, I read recently that the current federal intervention in the markets is in part an attempt to avoid the sort of "let weak businesses fail" approach that was prevalent in the years leading to the Great Depression.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 12, 2008, 07:26:59 PM »

As a teen I first read about Glass' "North Star" in a Rolling Stone book of reviews from '79. However I never subsequently saw or heard it despite being exposed to many other of his works (and later photographing him after a lecture!) It seems to have slipped off the radar. How do they compare?


I think what Glass' "North Star" and Molina's "Un Dia" share is their hypnotic use of multitracked vocals.  The vocals almost sound like chants or incantations.  The melody of first track on Un Dia (Dar) is almost a dead ringer for "Ave" off of North Star.  If you like the vocal style of North Star, you'd probably also like Glass' Einstein On The Beach, which is from the same period.

Forrest

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I've been a freelancer for the past few months, and it's been fairly brutal.  The slowdown in legal work was rather sudden, though there has been a slow motion collapse of the Bay Area housing market over the past year or two.  Though I think I'm positioned to weather this, the current tailspin of the market is very disconcerting.  While I guess I should be thankful that Paulson is capable of changing his mind about things such as the purchase of toxic subprime assets, I wish he had gotten it right the first time.

Forrest 

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 11, 2008, 04:41:05 PM »
You're right Mark, the new Juana Molina does seem to have very few breaks in it.  Still like it quite a bit.  Reminds me for some reason of Philip Glass' North Star album.

Today, I've been enjoying Tu M's "Is That You?" netrelease EP on Cronica.  A very nice slice of quiet melodic ambience that I think ranks up with their 'Just One Night' album on Dekorder.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Morbid topic but need feedback
« on: November 11, 2008, 04:33:07 PM »
Hi Bill,

What about donating the CDs to a Goodwill, Salvation Army, or a church rummage sale?  I doubt that CDs with a promotional sticker would be an issue with them, but I guess you never know.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Help needed on copyright alternatives
« on: November 11, 2008, 11:43:34 AM »
While it's true that the "mail it to yourself" approach is not a substitute for copyright registration, I think that the postmarked sealed envelope would at least be some evidence that the piece was in existence as of that date.  A general resource book like "This Business of Music" would probably have a discussion of the pros and cons of copyright registration.  I remember that the "mail it to yourself" approach was pretty common in the DIY-80s, but maybe it only served as a placebo.  I've checked Randall Wixen's 2005 book, "The Plain and Simple Guide to Music Publishing," and he recommends formal copyright registration, because registration is required before you can bring a copyright infringement suit in federal court and registration is prima facie evidence that you are the owner.  The copyright registration fee is pretty nominal and the copyright forms are not all that complicated, so it shouldn't be that big of a deal to register, anyway.

An FAQ on the copyright office website also suggests that registration would enable you to claim attorney's fees from the other side in the case of a post-registration infringement.  This is no small thing.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Help needed on copyright alternatives
« on: November 08, 2008, 10:05:10 AM »
Oenyaw,

You don't actually actually have to formally register your copyright, though it is recommended that you do.  One thing you could do (though it does not offer you as much protection) is to mail a sealed copy of the disc to yourself.  The postmark date on your sealed package would be evidence of your claim to a common law copyright (assuming, of course, that you claimed a copyright on the liner notes of the disc itself).

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Concession speech = classy
« on: November 08, 2008, 10:01:28 AM »
Actually Judd, I wasn't thinking specifically about your comments.  I was thinking about comments of others like, "After all the name calling and losing so decidedly," which make the poster's editorial point of view very clear (and which I found annoying, notwithstanding whether I actually agreed with them).  I can't speak to oenyaw's comments, because I did not see them before they were deleted.  My point was that if you can't talk about it, you shouldn't--it's more of a bright-line test for me.  Maybe I have more of a hair-trigger about these things because the opposing parties I have had to deal with in my day job test the "boundaries" on a regular basis, and not always in an honest sort of way.  I also feel that people here don't even have the same understanding about what is implicit and what is acceptable, so what is the point of arguing about it.  There are too many other things that are worth doing and can be done.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Concession speech = classy
« on: November 07, 2008, 06:06:31 PM »
Well, I guess if we can't talk about "it," we can still talking about talking about "it," right?;)

I think this whole discussion (and what appear to be attempts to get around the limitations in this section of the forum) seems to support the argument that Mike did the right thing in keeping the "ho holds barred" section closed.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 07, 2008, 06:02:58 PM »
Joe,

I think that Orsi' Audio For Lovers will grow on you.  I've only heard it twice, and like it so far, though I think his "Wild Light of the Moon" CD is better and more focused.  One minor criticism I have with Orsi is that his production values are a bit rough for my taste (for example, his crude looping of simple guitar lines could be more interesting), but this may have to do with there being so many of his releases out there in a relatively short period of time.  Of course, you could make a similar argument about other similarly prolific artists like Brian Grainger/Milieu, who seems to release albums like they were newspapers.

Today's listening:

Arvo Part - Alina (minimal, beautiful and hypnotic; sparse piano and cello)
Juana Molina - Un Dia (even further out there than her prior releases, great!)

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 03, 2008, 08:09:04 PM »
Ville Moskiitto - Thousands Fall Every Day (quirky electronics, sparse acoustics and loops; from Finland; comes in a handsewn cloth bag)

ThrouRoof - Infinity Less Moontales (spacey processed/bowed guitar with a slight psychedelic feel and occasional keyboards; from Italy)

Forrest

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Listening: Podcasts, Mixes, and Music Sample Clips / Re: abasio live
« on: November 03, 2008, 08:03:01 PM »
It is slightly too early:o
Question! to you "Triskaidekaphobia"What does it mean?
Please tell me if someone know this meaning. :)

Fear of the number "13."

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Who you will vote ?
« on: October 31, 2008, 12:49:04 PM »
Unfortunately, web forums are not good at self-policing.

I'd have to agree with this, and would go further to say that it's almost a universal truth.  Recent events have cast doubt on the viability of "enlightened" self-interest, and on a smaller level, isn't it always the case that it takes one or a few selfish people to spoil it for everyone else?  It's almost as if you need rules to keep people on their best behavior once you've exceeded a certain critical mass.

Forrest

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