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Hi jim02,

I think it's a jewel box release.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: April 25, 2009, 11:43:56 AM »
That Strom Noir sounds nice.  Just picked up their Ylomejja release through Soleilmoon.  Thanks Alan!

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Downloading Music and Rights
« on: April 25, 2009, 10:25:42 AM »
I hadn't realized how ambiguous my comment was that Judd excepted above.  I was referring there to file sharing an entire CD with others, and not to burning the CD for one's own use.  I agree with Mike's position.

Forrest

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Hi Brian,

I don't have a larger cover image yet, but will link to it once I get one.  I think the master disc was sent off to the manufacturers already, and Sam and I have been working on the one-sheet.  Once the disc gets closer to release, I'll post a 9-minute ambient piece that deconstructs elements from the disc as a free download.

Forrest

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Thanks for the encouragement, guys.  I'll let you know when it's out.

Joseph, the stringed instrument is a Turkish cumbus (a fretless instrument with a metal resonator).  Sam picked the font, so I don't really know what it is.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Downloading Music and Rights
« on: April 23, 2009, 12:58:36 PM »
I don't have a problem with #1, and could see how it might be a form of indirect advertising.  I think there is danger that putting too many restrictions on what consumers can do with their music may ultimately backfire by leading to even more declining sales (e.g., the DRM debacle).  I agree, though, that it is a trade-off in that having more used copies of your CD circulating around may ultimately put a dent in your CD sales.  Still, I think the greater risk of lost sales comes from the circulation of unauthorized digital copies.

I am fortunate that there are great record stores in the Bay Area like Amoeba, and still like go there to look for obscure CDs.  I think it's somewhat impractical to expect someone to hang onto a CD if they only like/want to keep a single track or two (and/or dislike the actual packaging).  Also, what if they simply want to throw the CD away and go digital?

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: April 23, 2009, 11:35:17 AM »
My recent non-ambient listening -

Pere Ubu - Worlds In Collision
Marshall Crenshaw - Miracles of Science
Lyle Lovett - My Baby Don't Tolerate

Forrest

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Sam just posted these MP3s clips of my upcoming "Phantoms" CD to the Projekt website:

http://www.projekt.com/projekt/product.asp?sku=PRO00230

The CD will be available around mid-July.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Downloading Music and Rights
« on: April 22, 2009, 04:43:07 PM »
I think reading the comments is here is making my head spin...We do currently have taxation with representation (gripes from the right notwithstanding), so I'm not sure I'd put that it in the same category as the decision of an individual to copy or upload his CD for his friends without the consent of either the artist or the record label.  I think the notion that "if is on the internet, it must be free" is what is causing newspapers and other traditional media to go out of business, or at the very least, be starved for cash.  If I read a story on the Washington Post or Wall Street Journal website that is subscription only, I don't the legal right to copy that text for someone else to read, any more than I would have the right to convert a Kindle novel into a text file and post it on the internet.  Even a recipe is not necessarily free if it comes from a subscription-only website.  I don't think anyone is taking the position that playing a CD for your friends or including music on a mixtape or podcast is piracy.  Making a copy of a entire CD freely available in digital form to be enjoyed on another person's iPod or to be burned to CDR, though, is a different kettle of fish.

I agree that the discussion should gradually move towards trying to develop a sustainable model.  Clearly, what has been in place has not been working.  One thing I plan to try as an experiment is to make freely available a standalone track created from raw elements of my upcoming CD as a form of promotion.  I thought that what rock musician Jill Sobule did with her last CD project was kind of cool; she had enough of a fan base that she was able raise money from her fans to record and press her CD.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Downloading Music and Rights
« on: April 22, 2009, 12:52:54 AM »
I'm wondering how many people who say "taking something from me that I did not freely give to you is stealing" also disapprove of the income tax?   ;D 
Oh wait that's right... that tax money just goes back to help the poor people of society... right. 

Sorry Judd, not really following you on this one.  The analogy I would make is the person who sneaks into a concert that others paid for.  The logical extension of your argument would be that that's OK, too.  But why stop there?  Why not sneak onto a flight that others paid for?  No harm, no foul?  Sounds like way too much relativism for me.

Another thing.  At various times, we pay for services that may be intangible, like medical advice.  It has value, though not a physical form.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: April 21, 2009, 09:38:09 PM »
Thanks for that, Alan. And the sample sounded GOOD. 8)

Yep, you can't too wrong with Wright (sorry, couldn't resist).  Wright's not as prolific as Fabio Orsi, so collecting him shouldn't break the bank (though you might have trouble locating some of his earlier OOP releases).  I have two soundscape CDRs Wright recorded under charming name of "Polio" that are also pretty good.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Ancient Gugin Music
« on: April 21, 2009, 09:33:32 PM »
Just discovered a new Guqin record that I am very eager to acquire. Check out the samples, it's beautiful.
http://cdbaby.com/cd/chenggongliang

Sounds nice, Joseph.  If you pick it up, let me know what you think of it.  I might have to check it out, too.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Downloading Music and Rights
« on: April 21, 2009, 09:31:27 PM »
I, too, have a fondness for vinyl and cassette, though I have to admit it's much more pleasant experience listening to Klaus Schulze and Eno on CD, as opposed to vinyl.  No more snaps, crackles and pops.

I think the decline of the CD has more to do with the fact that you can't really compete with "free."

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: April 20, 2009, 10:14:25 PM »
Seht- A Green Morning; Very Minimal. Lo-fi and foggy drones, with clicky/glitchy high-pitched sounds that barely rise above the murk. But all these drones have their own set of subtle rhythms and patterns which makes this a very engaging listen. 8)

I have this disc, too, and like it very much.  If you like this sort of thing, I'd highly recommend almost anything by Peter Wright (though I'd probably start with his 2008 Archive release, "Pretty Mushroom Clouds").

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Downloading Music and Rights
« on: April 20, 2009, 10:11:23 PM »
I'm wondering now why most artists don't see it that way?   Why not just stream the whole album, or everything but the last minute or 30 sec. of each track?   

I don't think there is a "one size fits all" solution to this issue.  Two labels I have worked with (Projekt and Cuneiform) have made sample tracks available through sampler compilations.  Another label (Foundry) embedded two tracks from my album with Carl Weingarten (Invisibility) in a podcast interview, which I thought was a pretty creative approach.  One problem I have with streaming is that it is too easy to capture the stream digitally using software.  If the stream is hi-fi, it is too easily captured and rendered into MP3.  If the stream is lo-fi, it degrades the listening experience and may not be representative of what the track actually sounds like.  (Try listening to Thomas Koner at 128 kbps!)

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Downloading Music and Rights
« on: April 20, 2009, 12:08:22 AM »
Maybe it has something to do with relative demand?

My guess would be that this is the unfortunate result of having to go through a middleman for digital distribution and losing all control over the terms ultimately reached with the digital retail company at the other end.  EMusic's monthly subscription plan is by the number of downloads, and not by track length, so you could probably download several longform ambient albums for the price of, say, a digital Nick Lowe album.  I don't know what the net royalty would be from the sale of a longform album on Emusic, but my guess is that would be less than what the artist would have received on Itunes.

Re Immersion's comments:  I have paid for Robert Rich's mastering services and the licensing of Mark Mushet's professional images for the cover of my next CD.  This comes directly out of my own pocket, and I hope to at least break "even" (and by that, I am not even thinking about any of my own time spent, which is considerable) on the CD through sales, physical and digital.  I could not even hope for that to happen if everyone adopted Immersion's attitude that all digital music should be free for the taking.

Forrest

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Just got this one, too.  Very enjoyable, especially disc 2.

Forrest

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That happened to me, too, when I tried to import one of the Macro Dub Infection compilations into ITunes.  The tracks showed up under the album title, but the individual tracks were stored under folders for each artist.  Really messy when you're looking for tracks in individual subdirectories.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Lossless .flac vs CD
« on: April 14, 2009, 10:26:24 PM »
I have no problems with free FLAC releases, but would always opt for the physical release over a FLAC, if I had the choice.  I can't see how a printer could ever equal or surpass a manufactured booklet.  Also, I would be too lazy (or klutzy) to print out and cut my own covers.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Music, free or for sale ?
« on: April 14, 2009, 10:23:29 PM »
Ok, do I need to become a content provider in order to get my stuff into iTunes? Let me know if anyone is doing this and if it doesn't cost on my end for submitting to them for this. I went and filled out the application, we'll see how long it takes for them to get back to me on it and what they say.
Thanks,
Mike

You might want to check out Tunecore (www.tunecore.com).  They seem to have a fairly reasonable pricing scheme.  I've been thinking about using them for some of my older Ominous Thud releases, if I ever get around to digitizing them.

Forrest

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