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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Electric Gongs
« on: August 11, 2008, 08:59:14 PM »
Hey, that's very cool!  Wish I could see it.  Harry, if like those sounds, you should also check out the sound sculpture music of Robert Rutman and Harry Bertoia.

Forrest

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My view on this has evolving somewhat.  Although I agree with Anthony that there is the issue of dilution, my greater concern is that of quality control.  This issue has always been there, from the days of mp3.com.  It may be asking too much to expect an artist who may be too close to his or her own music to be an efficient editor/filter of the material that is to be released as well.  I think it is more respectful to the listener's time if less rather than more is released.  It's not just the wasted time in downloading a file, it's wasted time for the disappointed consumer listening, too.  I think that traditional labels still perform a valuable function not only as curators with a particular aesthetic/vision, but also as gatekeepers, so that only releases that meet a certain threshold get released.  Maybe a well-run netlabel such as Resting Bell or Monotonik can serve the same function, but there are only so many hours in the day to spend trawling for free music.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: August 06, 2008, 11:07:25 PM »
VA - Haruomi Hosono Strange Song Book (Tribute to Haruomi Hosono 2) (An interesting compilation of artists doing cover versions of Hosono's songs and a couple of instrumentals; Fennesz and Sakamoto cover a mid-80s instrumental tune; my favorite is a cover of Pleiocene with gamelan)
Brand X - Xcommunication (a early 90s fusion power trio release with John Goodsall and Percy Jones that isn't half bad, cheesy cover notwithstanding)

Forrest

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Forum members on emusic.com
« on: August 06, 2008, 10:55:20 PM »
My Gongland release is up there on emusic, but my Cuneiform releases (Folklore, Blind Messenger) are only on Itunes.  I may make some my older releases such as Wolf At the Ruins available digitally in the not-too-distant future.

Forrest

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Hypnos Label Releases / Re: CD release: Sans Serif - Tones for LaMonte
« on: August 06, 2008, 10:52:23 PM »
Dave and John - Many thanks for the feedback.  Glad you enjoyed it.

Forrest

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Hello Ekstasis.  Have you worked with analog synths before?  If not, I think you might find analog synths or software analog synth emulators like the Arturia Moog more transparent in showing you how electronic sound is created.  From there, I would add in effects such as echo and reverb, but too many effects at the outset may make difficult to troubleshoot what you are hearing in case you want to modify it.  Those presets you are describing probably have quite a few effects attached to them.

Forrest

Hello, I have worked only with digital synths before,  I am going to try Zero-G Phaedra Ultimate Analog synth during this week, we will see if I like it.

About the Arturia Moog, I did check it on the website the "Analog Factory Experience" software/hardware combo, I did like the interface a lot, but the actual sounds is not something I like, they sound very old school 70s sounds, this is not at all the sounds I want.


I was thinking that an analog hardware or virtual interface would be useful for purposes of breaking down the sound into its basic components (VCO, VCA, VCF, ASDR, and so forth).  These are basic principles that you could apply to other virtual or hardware instruments that had sounds you found more interesting.  Starting with a complex opaque interface seems to be putting the cart before the horse.  I found it much easier to program my first digital synth because I had had basic training on a Moog Mark V many many moons ago.

Forrest

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Hello Ekstasis.  Have you worked with analog synths before?  If not, I think you might find analog synths or software analog synth emulators like the Arturia Moog more transparent in showing you how electronic sound is created.  From there, I would add in effects such as echo and reverb, but too many effects at the outset may make difficult to troubleshoot what you are hearing in case you want to modify it.  Those presets you are describing probably have quite a few effects attached to them.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: July 31, 2008, 11:31:20 AM »
Igneous Flame - Hydra (complex fog banks of treated guitar.  Great stuff.  He has a nice track on the Hypnos "Sounds of a Universe Overheard" comp, too.)
David Torn - Prezens (this one went right past me.  I think prefer his spacier "Cloud About Mercury" period, but it might just be a grower)

Forrest

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: R.I.P. Backroads Music
« on: July 31, 2008, 11:24:27 AM »
I was under the impression that Lloyd was continuing at least some of his operations under a different name.  Here is part of his announcement to the Spacemusic list:

as of August 1, 2008, Backroads Music will suspend operations. 

Lloyd Barde Productions will be launched by September 1st, & will continue to sell CDs from extensive stock on hand. 
Same location, with this contact info:
        Address remains:  401A Tamal Plaza, Corte Madera, CA 94925
       Phone remains: 415-924-4848 (same as before).  The 800# will be discontinued August 1st.
        Email as of August 1st (New; please change!): lloyd@well.com starts 8/1/08
             (backroad@well.com will be forwarded for a period of time after the change)
       Web site:  <http://www.backroadsmusic.com> will be gone August 1st.
           A new web site for LLOYD BARDE PRODUCTIONS will be up by September 1st!


Forrest

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Harvey Milk are the shit.

Don't know anything about them, but they were just in town, apparently for the first time on the West Coast.  It guess it makes a certain amount of sense, this being the Bay Area.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: What does this music do to you?
« on: July 30, 2008, 04:29:34 PM »
The ambient practitioners are taking Western music back into the awareness of pure sound in the moment, kind of like a zen ideal, or a general awareness of music taken out of linear thinking modes.

A nice observation.  I feel that some of my most inspired work comes from creating "in the moment" via improvisation, though, more times than not, I'm tempted to shape my improvs into a more seemingly structured form.  Strangely, I'm not always aware that I'm creating something sonically interesting until after I have left it for a while.

...and I'm with Bill.  There is a danger of becoming too smug and insular about the subjective perception of art.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Media advice/help sought
« on: July 24, 2008, 12:47:59 PM »
Have you tried Windows Movie Maker?

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/updates/moviemaker2.mspx

It came with my computer (running XP), but I think you can get it for free at the above link.  I'm not sure if the above version can do slide shows, but the version on my computer seems to have an option for importing pictures.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Ancient Gugin Music
« on: July 24, 2008, 12:25:51 AM »
The HUGO label has put out some nice CDs of Qin music.  I have one called "Guangling Qin Music" that is a compilation of 3 diffferent Qin players.  Don't know if these are still in print.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Favourite dramatic piece of music
« on: July 24, 2008, 12:22:25 AM »
My vote is for Philip Glass' soundtrack to Koyaanisqatsi.  Sounded great performed live, too.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: July 24, 2008, 12:20:24 AM »
Thomas Koner - Zyklop

Very happy to finally snag a copy of this, even if it is a little dinged.  The first disc (a collaboration with environmental sound artist Yannick Dauby) is especially good.

Forrest

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Yes, some really nice music there, Anthony.  Thanks for the heads up.

Forrest

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I've been listening to a lot of drone music lately (Alan Lockett deserves some of the credit/blame for that:))


I guess you may be hinting also, from your perspective as a listener, that for every Behind Your Very Eyes or Chroma to immerse yourself in, there's been a Moraines, or a Mas Memorias Extranjeras to end up being um... enmired in  ;-)


Yep, you got that right!;)  Well, 1 Chroma or 1 Cede makes up for 10 Memorias Extranjeras!  It's a fair trade-off:)  I see from the Twenty Hertz page that there is a new Paul Bradley CD/DVD out.  But I'll probably wait for the first adopters on this board to air their opinions first before leaping.

I've also been listening to a lot of Mirror/Andrew Chalk-related projects lately, though that can become a very expensive habit to have.

Forrest

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Do you still want to learn?
« on: July 16, 2008, 07:52:22 PM »
I've been interested off and on in fractals over the last 10 years, and have read several laybooks about them, but have not been inclined to take a formal physics course, because of the less than scintillating math that would likely crop up.

I started studying Chinese classical music and the gu-zheng (Chinese zither) in my mid-to-late 20s, and around that same time also started attending gamelan workshops hosted by Gamelan Sekar Jaya.

These days, I've been playing informally with a mandolin group that sight reads through classical pieces written for multiple string players.  I like challenge of trying to play an unfamiliar piece, as it almost seems like a formal of aerobics for the ears.

Forrest

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: July 16, 2008, 07:43:18 PM »
I'll add a third to the recommendation on the Bradley/Potter collab--it's an excellent one, if occasionally intense.

Lena - Extended Gestures for Cello  (finally picked this up, and am glad I did.  Parts of it remind me of the bowed metal music of Harry Bertoia.  Nicely done, Lena!)
Richard Pinhas - Iceland (one of my favorite early Pinhas releases; nice balance between the keys and guitar)
Elbow - Cast of Thousands (an odd one that came recommended to me by Robert Rich; a strange mixture of late Talk Talk and David Bridie)

Forrest



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Thanks to Mike for his diligence and speed in readying this CD for release.  It was recorded in May and was mastered at Robert Rich's studio just a few weeks ago.  I've been listening to a lot of drone music lately (Alan Lockett deserves some of the credit/blame for that:)), so this release had somewhat of an organic origin.  The CD is a bit different from my prior releases, so to avoid any confusion, it's being released under a side project name, "Sans Serif."

To mark the CD's release, I've posted an unreleased track from the 'Sans Serif' sessions to the audio page of my website.  I've also posted another piece there (a sketch in the form of a demo) for fun as well.

Thanks for the continuing support/interest,
Forrest
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