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 ???  WTF! No segment on what Edgar Froese or Tangerine Dream had in the role of ambient/electronic atmospheric music. And he's from the UK? The UK is what put Tangerine Dream on the map back in the late 60's. Sure they started in West Berlin, but it was the UK fans and bbc radio that really launch the band. And Edgar/TD is still putting out albums and touring. TD is still huge in the UK and the rest of Europe. Not so much here in America these days. But still take note Mark. Even if you don't care for TD these days they had a major role in the 60's and 70's. I've briefly started watching the youtube lecture. . . . .boring. But I will finish or get through it.

I haven't listened or watched the lecture yet. Maybe I should after listening to Steve Roach's Live Transmission album I just got. Or not.

Ordered and awaiting the arrival of Steve's newest double cd release Live Transmissions.
Looking forward to the next "live" Immersion gig at LA's Vortex Dome venue on Oct 25 (one show) and Oct 26 (two shows). Feeling bad about missing out on the Ambicon event and his last Immersion gig in Tucson a few years back I will def be at the Saturdays shows. Yes both shows.

Steve Roach's music is described as Pink Floyd on steroids! IMO

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: AMBIcon 2013 Update
« on: May 05, 2013, 08:14:27 AM »
 :) Good to be able to watch AMBIcon live via Livestream. At work. On OT. I was planning on flying up to SanFran to spend the weekend in the San Rafeal area and check out Robert Rich and Steve Roach's sets. But OT at LAX is hard to pass up. So now I get to watch live and work OT. Yes, its not the same as being there but. . . .hey. . . .what the hell. I was actually very impressed with Michael Stearns set last night. I stayed up past my bed time to finally see M Stearns perform live. This was his first time performing live in 10 years. Always loved his music. Can't wait to get home and set up my apple tv to watch the master himself. . . . .Steve Roach. With a couple of good IPA  beers to drink along side. If I couldn't be there live I rather be out in the Mojave Desert with my iPad and speakers camping. Or at home on the big screen. Cheers to HOS. Thanks Steven Hill.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: AMBIcon 2013 Update
« on: April 23, 2013, 08:13:58 AM »
Will individual tickets be available day of show at the venue? As long as they haven't sold out?

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: AMBIcon 2013 Update
« on: January 18, 2013, 09:43:46 AM »
So only northern California residents will be able to attend the individual concerts? SoCal and out of state are not allowed? I would like to attend two or all 4 concerts. So do I have to buy for the whole weekend event? $350-370 for non NorCal residents? It's a bit pricey just to see two or four shows. Don't you think?

Everything and Nothing / Re: Who has to work on Christmas eve?
« on: December 25, 2012, 04:05:55 PM »
I'm working a double shift @ LAX right now. In the middle of my 16 hour day/night now. Yippee!! All at holiday pay!! Listening to some Steve Roach, Tangerine Dream, Between Interval, etc. Watching the Lakers win. And some work in-between. Cheers all. Merry Christmas from beautiful LAX.

Yes you can, because there are too many.  ;)

Not in my album library. Never have enough of Steve Roach. Never get tired of his ever changing sounds. Different sounds for different situations. Like my TD library, I have every Roach album. I have two iPods. One for Rock and one for EM/ambient. And every Roach & TD album is loaded into it. I have certain Roach albums for drinking beer or camping out in the desert, camping in the mountains or road trips in the car. Even just chilling out at home. 

My first TD experience was the "Sorceror" soundtrack. That took me to a different universe from Pink Floyd, Yes, ELP, etc. Ricochet, Phaedra, Rubycon and the rest is history. Klaus Schulze, Jean Michel Jarre, Kitaro, etc followed soon after. Then the late 80's hit and the Dream was more of a nightmare for me. What happened? Melrose, Goblins Club, etc was not doing it for me. The radio stations that were playing EM style music was going to jazz, soft jazz. Which was fine. But were did my EM music go? I think it was the end of EM here in America. Then the early 90 rolled around and I was out in the middle of the Mojave desert camping and I just happened to turn on the radio late at night and heard this program called Hearts of Space. They were playing Steve Roach and Robert Rich and a few others I don't remember. It was a new journey for me into the world of Roach and Rich and other ambient artist. So I had found a new era of sounds/music to follow in Roach/Rich/Stearns and others. It kinda reminded me of the first time hearing TD. So I found myself listening to less of TD and more of ambient/drone style music. My first Steve Roach concert was back in 1996 in a coffee shop in Santa Monica. Again, blown away! I was on a mission to buy any and all Steve Roach albums. I've seen Steve "live" every year since (with the exception of the Soundquest Fest in 2010). Late 2000 and with the streaming internet radio I start to discover some of the EM music coming out of Europe. "Nattefrost" with its old TD sounds and others. I start to get back into the Dream and start flying across the pond to see Edgar and company perform in concert. I figure the Dream doesn't have many years left before Edgar calls the final chapter in the book of Tangerine Dream. Yes, it's NOT the Tangerine Dream of the 70's/80's. But to me it's the one and only that started the trip for me back in 1978. If it wasn't for TD I dont think I would here on this site. 

I too own most of the KS La Vie series. I still listen to KS and TD alot. Yes the old KS and TD back in the 70's were the prime. Edgar Froese has taken it to a new level. And most of the older TD fans dont care for it. I prefer the 70's and early 80's of TD and KS but times have changed. I think if they were to keep making the same style of music they will not have the newer fans. I've been to TD's concerts the last 6 years (4 times this year) and you have a mix of old and news fans. Even younger kids that came along with their parents. Just like going to a rock concert these days. I believe Edgar's (TD's) music is still the same but using acoustic instruments (ex. Linda Spa, Iris Camaa, and Hoshiko Yamane). It's like taking a step backwards from the 60's and 70's of the synth/electronic sounds. Yes he's added females to the band to attract more of the younger male, or older male. I guess you could say I am still a huge TD and KS fan. And I still prefer to see the Dream back in the days of improv. But I enjoy what Edgar puts out these days. After all I've flown across the pond the last 6 years to see them perform live.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: RIP Pete Namlook
« on: November 15, 2012, 11:40:14 AM »
Totally shocked of the news this morning. This happened last week. . . .WOW! RIP.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: HOS news. . . .ambicon 2013
« on: October 26, 2012, 12:57:11 PM »
I really hope they have tix available for individual shows.  $300 is probably a deal all things considered for seeing the numerous concerts that will take place, but don't know if I can justify spending that much.  I would really like to see Jeff Pearce and Michael Stearns, mainly because never seen them live before.  I have seen Robert Rich and Steve Roach numerous times throughout the years.  Would be nice to see them again, especially at this event.  The fact I live in the Bay Area really helps, too!

So the 300 is just for the event price? Yes, pretty steep considering. Then probably add another 250-300 for the hotel cost. I think I will wait till the individual ticket comes available.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Robert Rich :: Nest CD
« on: October 24, 2012, 07:41:58 PM »
 :) Very nice.  ;)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: HOS news. . . .ambicon 2013
« on: October 24, 2012, 07:40:38 PM »
Ticket Update. . . . .

Does anybody know if the prices here include the hotel cost? Or just for the weekend event? Hotel rooms are separate?

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Dead Can Dance 2012
« on: August 22, 2012, 08:25:01 PM »
Went last week to the LA Gibson show. First timer. Awesome. Unlike anything I saw. Not TD like but different. Notsure if they played the entire new album. But what they did play I knew 70%. Glad I went.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: HOS news. . . .ambicon 2013
« on: August 02, 2012, 08:41:30 PM »
Klaus Schulze!  8)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: OMG --Edgar Froese!
« on: August 02, 2012, 08:40:24 PM »
yes, saw the interview. thought it was pretty cool. Edgar the Great lost alot of weight back in 2009. Flying back to Vienna after his band Tangerine Dream performed at an outdoor festival in Japan, he got some sort of bacterial infection and was sidelined for several months. Its been kept very quite on his health issues. During the Royal Albert Hall concert in 2010 he could hardly walk on stage or stand up for more than 5 minutes. He was very weak back then. But at his age playing for over 3 hours doesn't help either. I saw Edgar and the Dream 3 times this year. He is doing alot better. The Dream just finished off their 2012 Electric Mandarin Tour through Europe and N. America. Edgar is in good spirits when I talked to him. He is planning on taking the band to Australia and then over to Asia to finish off the Mandarin Tour in 2013.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: HOS news. . . .ambicon 2013
« on: July 30, 2012, 07:13:26 PM »
Pink Floyd? Tangerine Dream?

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