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Would like to wish Steve a Happy Birthday. Been a huge fan of Steve's since 1994. First saw Steve performing in a small coffee shop in Santa Monica in 1996. Was totally blown away. Next trip was to Tucson the year after in 1997. Been to at least one every year since. Keep the Trip Fantastic going. Cheers!!

Have too say "The Desert Inbetween" cd is taken into the next level from Landmass and Nightbloom. Steve along with Brian has taken it into a higher dimension. On my third spin as I type. My first listen was on home system yesterday afternoon. Second was in my truck system on the way into work this morning. And now again on my home system. I would like to experience this trip out in the Mojave desert soon. Should be interesting!  ;)

Arrived in the mail today. Very surprised of the early arrival. Started a new post.

Steve Roach's newest box set "Sounds from Inbetween" arrived in the mail today. What a surprise! Did not expect this for another week. The packaging is very nice. And it was wrapped with care. Will be listening to this and Tangerine Dream's "The Endless Season" & Lisbon concert dvd this weekend. Should be a nice weekend of chill.

Ordered last night. Looking forward to this box set. And hopefully the soundquest fest 2011.

Does the R&R Hall of Fame have any real credibility these days? I saw them on the 5150 tour at the Forum, no amps on stage. It wasn't long after that I bought my first synth. They definitely made some good contributions to the genre and had a long run. Eddie reinvented the guitar as a player and builder,  and influenced countless guitarists. BTW, Steve Winwood was 16 when he was with Spencer Davis.

Where's RUSH in all this talk about Rock and Roll Hall of Shame?

Now Playing / Re: Long Term Listening - your ambient classics
« on: October 30, 2010, 07:57:12 AM »
Tangerine Dream (not considered ambient)- The early classics from this german electronic band. Rubycon, Ricochet, Phaedra, Encore, etc. Most of the Tangerine "Tree's" and "Leaves"

Steve Roach Nightbloom-although Steve's newest album I have listened to this beautiful album around a dozen or so times since I've recieved it. Artifacts, Origins, Well of Souls, Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces, On This Planet(1997) was my second encounter seeing Steve perform live in Tucson. Just too bad it was not a 2 cd set.

Robert Rich w/ Alio Die-Fissures, Trances and Drones, Below Zero

Vangelis Antarctica, The City, China, Albedo 0.39, Direct

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Immersion app
« on: October 26, 2010, 10:10:36 AM »
Anyone get the Steve roach immersion app yet? Looks interesting and of high quality audio loops. I often listen to the Robert rich app ( though as previously mentioned not the same as the DVD version) plus my phone is no hi fi listening device nice to have though if you really need a ambient break.

I just downloaded it yesterday. Pretty neat. Still playin around with it.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: SoundQuest Fest 2010
« on: October 25, 2010, 10:12:30 AM »
SQ was a fantastic time. The meet n greet at the hotel on Friday was laid-back and great, with food & drink provided by our gracious hosts. From the moment you walked in, you felt welcome. Excellent chance to meet and put names to faces. Plus, the defining moment of the meet n greet was watching Steve Roach work the room with a tray of cookies.

As for the show...great sets from all. Loren started us off with some dark work, adding layers of gamelan to the mix. I particularly liked the stuff later in his set, some nice cave-born, shadowy atmospheres. Mark Seelig followed with his flutes and overtone singing, accompanied by mesmerizing, droney tamboura from Stefan Ford (whose name I hope I got right). Byron Metcalf found his way into the mix to add some clay-pot percussion. This set had more than a few people remarking that they had to "come back up" after. Personally speaking, I got myself into a deeply meditative state during this--and I usually can't meditate well for all the crap running around in my head. But I went deep, indeed.

A break, then, during which they introduced the new ImmersionStation iPhone app where you can mix your own Roach loops by manipulating five balls on-screen. In the half hour before the evening set began, they played part of the upcoming release by Roach & Brian Parnham. I only heard parts of it, but it's a desert-ambient style work that sounded great.

Erik Wollo kicked off the evening set by playing all of "Gateway." It was amazing to watch him get his programmed loops going, add guitar textures to the mix and then step back to play his melodies. I heard traces of David Gilmour in Erik's graceful playing. And if you haven't heard "Gateway" yet, you're doing yourself a disservice. Hearing it live only reinforced for me how strong this disc is. Amazing background graphics, by the way, playing off the beautiful CD cover.

And then it was Roach time. Steve charted a dynamic course through washes, analog bounce and soaring soundscapes. Metcalf joined him onstage to add frame drum and usher in the tribal section. From either wing, in came Dashmesh Khalsa and Brian Parnham, both hauling six-foot wide-belled didges to put the crowd in the middle of a space that echoed Nightbloom, Dream Tracker and Serpent's Lair. Both players at one point stepped out to let the other guide the flow. Parnham showcased his yelps and animal growls while Khalsa curled his breathwork from the bell in serpentine constructs. The didges went off, leaving Roach and Metcalf to work their long-standing alchemy in what one hopes was a tip toward their upcoming collaboration, which Byron told me will come from the same place as Serpent's Lair. Finally, it was just Steve winding it down from pulse to flow, at long last taking his hands from the controls and letting the last pad work through the room, finding its way through the applause.

This was a fantastic show. The crowd was sizable for an ambient gig--probably 150 or so for the afternoon session, swelling to easily twice that for the evening.  Everybody just digging deep into the grooves, happy to be, for once, hanging in a crowd of folks who get it.

Thank you Hypnagogue.

Welcome to the forum, David.

Also I missed dreamin4ever's post, and though he's not new here, I wanted to say thanks for introducing yourself!

Thanks mgriffin. I dont post much here. Sorry. I do read alot and if I find something interesting I will post. This is an excellent site. One of the best I might add. I am a huge Tangerine Dream fan and I do post alot on their forum. I know its not the Dream it once was but. . . . Anyways, did you make it out to Tucson for the Soundquest Fest? I wanted to go soooo bad. I just could not call in sick to work for this. My first time in 16 years not seeing Steve perform live. Bummer.

Like me, you've probably met some famous musicians over the years of going to shows, record signings, or in-store appearances  Most I've met were of course at concert halls, backstage, outside venues, etc.  Anybody run into musicians in a place where you least expected to ever see them?

Over the weekend I was in a tiny record store in San Mateo, CA (SF Bay Area) when in walks Dave Murray (guitarist) of Iron Maiden!  I've been a huge Maiden fan for 30 years, and this was totally surreal.  Turns out he was visiting some family here.  Not having any IM discs in my car, I re-bought their "Powerslave" CD, which he graciously signed.  I acted like a teenage fanboy, gushing superlatives at this metal guitar god. 

So let's hear your brushes with greatness (in the unlikeliest of places)!     

DAve Murreay of IM. Right On. Huge IM fan myself. From one extreme to the other. I have met Edgar Frose 3 times now. No not at a record shop or starbucks or anything like that. Last 3 times I flew over to Europe to see Tangerine Dream play live (2008-2010) and one time here at UCLA in 2008. Just fan meet and greet. Also got to hangout wth the King and bandmates afterwards for drinks in the bar. Edgar does not drink anymore. Nor does he partake in anything else anymore either. He is a vegan these days. A very nice and cool dude. I grew up in the seventies listening to TD. One of my heroes.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: SoundQuest Fest 2010
« on: October 14, 2010, 10:47:54 AM »
 :(   :(   Well, the fest weekend is almost a week away. And it doesn't look like I will be able to make it out to Tucson for this event. I have to work that weekend and it doesn't look good for getting it off. This will be the first year I've missed Steve's performance since 1996. I am still working on getting the weekend off, but it doesn't look good.

So I am hoping that someone will be videotaping parts of the event. It sure would be nice to see it on youtube soon after. I know I'll be missing out on a once in a lifetime show by all these talented musicians. And I know that the didj will be making an apperance this time. For all those going next weekend have a great time.  ;)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: SoundQuest Fest 2010
« on: September 26, 2010, 02:42:46 PM »
Listening to dream tracker. Bring back the "didg" Steve! Haven't heard it in the into in years!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: SoundQuest Fest 2010
« on: September 21, 2010, 09:12:17 PM »
I plan on being there. Scheduled to work that weekend. If I can get it off then I will be their for sure.  Haven't missed Steve performing live since 1996 in Santa Monica. This should be my 14th. Hope to see everyone there. Last years Immersion Fest in Pomona was fantastic.

Okay. . . .to begin with I've been on this forum since around March of 2008. Not many post. Just a few.
I started listening to Pink Floyd, ELP, Yes, etc., etc., before getting into the Dream (Tangerine Dream) back in 1978. My first album was Thief. A co-worker introduced me to Sorceror and I was blown away. Well, I thought so until I went out and bought TD's Ricochet, Rubycon and Phaedra. The next ten years I bought whatever TD albums I could find (new or used) along with Vangelis, Kitaro, Jean Michel Jarre, Michael Garrison, etc. But my main group would be and still is Tangerine Dream. Sometime before 1989 I discovered Kit Watkins Azure. And I was taken into another direction. Thats when I fell out of TD as they were going in a different direction. It wasnt until the 90's when Edgar added vocals to TD when I completely stopped listening to the Dream. One night out in the middle of Mojave desert in SoCal I was camping out after a nice soak in Deep creek Hot Springs I heard on the radio Hearts of Space. They were playing Robert Rich, Steve Roach, etc. That was my first time hearing Roach and Rich's music. I have all of Steve's albums and most of Roberts along with Vidna Obmana and other ambient artist I have collected in the last ten years plus. My first Roach concert was at a coffee shop in Santa Monica back in 1997. Since then I've been to see Steve every year that he's played here in SoCal or I would drive or fly to see him perform live. A MUST. I am hoping to make it to this years Soundquest Fest in Tucson. More recently I've been discovering Between Interval, Redshift and others. There are just so many styles of ambient/electospace music out there. But my one passion for group is still Tangerine Dream. The last 5 years I've gotten back into the Dream. Flying across the Pond 3 times in the last three years to see Edgar and company perform live in London, Berlin and back to London this year to see TD perform at the historic Royal Albert Hall. TD is not the Dream it once was. But they are still putting out some good and not so good music after 40 years. For those who still listen to Tangerine Dream I would recomd their latest live album Zeitgest live at the Royal Albert Hall 2010 3cd set. A must. If anyone out there has any recommendations of new or old ambient artist please let me know. Thank you.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Robert Rich Tour Blog
« on: May 15, 2010, 01:12:58 PM »
I think it's mostly a sign of the times.  We may not forget that we're not getting younger and it seems the the next generations of music lovers are quite different from our generation.  I do see this happening to my own and other gigs throughout Europe.  Quite unpredictable as with my recent Microphonics tour throughout Europe I played before audiences of 120 people or just even 4 people.  Nevertheless on both occassions they were impressive and very respectful.  I just don't mind playing for a gathering of 100 people or 4, I can't take it for granted that I do these concerts and that I'm able to share my passion with others.  I just love the fact of playing intimate and very small-scaled concerts more and more.  It's a fact that our kind of music nowadays gets more and more 'underground' than even before in our high days of electronic music scene of the 80's and 90's.

Of course there's a huge difference between Robert and myself, I think Robert still tries to live from his music while I have a 9 to 5 dayjob, which gives me, apart from the frustration now & then, the extreme freedom to do whatever I want with my music - whether it's commercially accepted or not.
I'm sure the decreasing interest in our music scene must put a lot of pressure on Robert's shoulders.

For those who are interested in reading the blog on my Microphonics tour, about the hi and lows, the seedy venues and promoters, the respectful audiences and the satisfaction of playing your music before audiences :

Hello Vidna, Any plans of coming back to the USA for a concert or mini tour. I think the last time I saw you was in NYC several years back. I had to leave early becouse I had to catch a early flight out of JFK the next morning. But it was by chance that I got to see you perform. Even if it was for 30 minutes or so. I've flown across the pond three times in the last year and half to see Edgar Froese and Tangerine Dream in concert. I've been trying to get hEdgar to come back to the US for anothre live gig. Like you said were all not getting any younger. Just wiser. Cheers.

Hypnos News and Announcements / Re: Hypnos At Discogs
« on: January 08, 2010, 02:36:33 PM »
Thanks to Discogs for keeping EM and ambient music alive here in the US. And of course forums like Hypnos. I almost lost hope for electronic/ambient music here in america. Was heavy into Tangerine Dream, Klaus Schulze, Vangelis, Jean Michel Jarre, etc., etc. in the 70's and 80's. It seemed like we lost alot of the EM/ambient during the 90's. While Europe was still strong. Thanks due to the internet and shops like Discogs and Hypnos we are able to experience the music.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach at Grace Cathedral
« on: January 08, 2010, 02:26:44 PM »
Steve Roach is set to release a double live of his performance at Grace Cathedral. I'm feeling bittersweet about it, as I really want to hear this performance, but I am kicking myself for not having attended. I lived in SF for five years, and the hill and the cathedral were favorite spots to visit on bike rides. I imagine it was an awe inspiring show in that environment. I blew it off cause I didn't want to spend time money to travel back down to California, and am now feeling like I missed out on a rare chance. Anyone see this show?

I too missed out on Steve's performance at the Grace. Having seen the Sausalito's performance the year before and Oakland a few years before the Grace. I decided to skip the Grace concert. I can kick myself for that. But I was lucky enough to be presented with a cdr hard copy of this performance early last year. I will definately buy this cd. Looking forward to Steve's performance in 2010.

Last call for Immersion Festival.  ;D Ok, I was interviewed about the show, you can read the interveiw here:

It was a very cool show Loren. Had a great time. Steve , Djam and yourself put on a fantastic show. Thank you very much.

Wow!  What a lineup and what a price! 

Even if they charged an admission to this event, I would go. Anybody else out there in SoCal going to this one? Saw Steve play at Analog Haven (next door to event) the last 2 times he's played there. Every time is different. Hope to see some of you there!!

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