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As much as one part of me enjoys the minimalism and focus of these pieces and other newer Steve Roach releases (like 'Spiral Meditations'), I do miss the days where individual tracks would have more distinct developments and contrasting sections within them. I remember often loving the majestic gear shifts throughout some tracks on The Magnificent Void, Mystic Chords and Sacred Spaces, that album The Dream Circle, the Vir Unis and Vidna Obmana collaborations, and many others. But this isn't specific to Steve's output; I've noticed that a number of ambient artists I like tend to focus on one main 'idea' per track these days, whereas their past works often had more surprises and definite shifts within individual tracks.   

I agree, well put. And it's not just about what happens in individual tracks. I also think there used to be more coherence between different tracks. The tracks on Magnificent Void and MC&SS give a bit of a sense of different movements, contrasting yet connected to each other. Certain tracks may feel like a brief interlude between two bigger ones, another track feels like a prelude to the next one etc. A good example would be the last three tracks on MC&SS disc 3. I feel a strong sense of direction there. That must be among his very finest moments, btw.
This connection between tracks is what I also miss in more recent releases.

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I agree.  Steve's music has gotten more abstract, formless over the years.  I'm sure it's intentional, as he seems to be about impressionism and sound painting than structured melodic pieces like his older work.

I dunno... I would still like to hear more in the vein of MC&SS to be honest. It had the perfect blend somehow, fantastic soundworlds with just the right amount of musical touches underneath... it still has a sense of direction, structure, with interesting tonal qualities/chords, not too much, not too little... most (not all) of the later albums are far less interesting in those aspects.
Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of his later albums as well, however in my view MC&SS is still the one to beat. A once in a decade masterpiece.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: RIP Pete Namlook
« on: May 09, 2014, 06:36:22 AM »
Definitely check out Psychonavigation 2 as well. It's my favorite from the series.
And let's not forget the Dark Side of the Moog series!

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: April 12, 2014, 01:40:40 PM »
I was browsing this topic a little bit and noticed Mozart was mentioned. It's nice there is some appreciation for him here.

I was recently reminded of Mozart's genius when I listened to the last movement from his last symphony (no. 41 "Jupiter").
This is a terrific recording along with some very nice visuals.

Listen to the whole thing and prepare for a completely extraordinary moment near the end. You'll know it when you hear it.
I recommend headphones and watching along with the visuals in full screen. :)

Mozart, Symphony 41, Jupiter, 4th mvt. (shapes)


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Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Oblivion - 2013
« on: February 12, 2014, 04:08:35 AM »
I thought Elysium was awful. Such a mess of a movie. Underdeveloped story, overacting (or should I say: over-pronunciation) from Foster and others, wooden Matt Damon. And simply a lot of silly things happening. Top it off with pointless, random slow motion moments. Honestly, its only strong point is the visuals.

I like Oblivion, by the way. :)

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I played through The Swapper for PC. Really beautiful atmospheric puzzle game with great ambient music. Recommended to all.

Also playing Path of Exile, a free action RPG, by far the best one out there, very deep and complex. Of course, it's a hell of a grind. But the many ways you can customize your character is one of the things that make this game worthwhile. Everything is so much better done than in Diablo 3.

I never got the hype for Skyrim. It's a beautiful world, but otherwise I found it unengaging. Also the combat is just awful.

For another type of massive open world game, you could check out some Space Sims. The recent X Rebirth is getting bad reviews, but the upcoming crowd funded "Star Citizen" and "Elite: Dangerous" are very, very interesting (and very good looking) projects.

"Elite: Dangerous retains the basic premise of previous games - players start with a spaceship and a small amount of money and make their own way in an open galaxy. Players will choose how much they interact with others, from completely offline play to something approaching an MMO. The extensively procedurally generated universe is expected to be vast both in scope and detail, perhaps allowing players to fly down into a unique cloudscape for every planet of every size in a universe containing hundreds of billions stars"

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Skyrim is in a league of its own in terms of open-ended gameplay and sandbox world. I can't think of anything that comes close. Probably for the best. I don't have time for such extended adventures.

Right now, I'm playing Final Fantasy 14 (MMORPG) on PC

This is sort of contradictory. You're playing an MMORPG, which are the most time consuming games out there, but don't have time for Skyrim. :)

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I did listen to "Spiral Meditations" today, what can I say, it sounded very mediocre to me...
The sound quality is not good, no depth, everything is just average, no magic...

I am still convinced it sounds good in steves studio, but it is to me clear he have made dramatic changes in is signal path...all sounds so much cheaper now a lot of the later releases...sad to hear...

Sorry, guys, but to me, works such as "Back To Life", "Tales From The Ultra Tribe", "Soul Tones" or "Future Flows" are no short of Steve's many milestones mentioned in above posts. Maybe these works are not that catchy at the "first listen", but to me, each new deep listening session provides a truly immersing and rewarding listening experience. "Back To Life" is definitely an ultimate milestone, on "Tales From The Ultra Tribe" Steve & Byron have pushed the limits again, "Future Flows", "Nightbloom", "The Road Eternal" or "Sigh Of Ages" are all masterpieces. Haven't received "Spiral Meditations" CD yet, but I simply can't imagine no magic, no depth on it... I have read several reviews during the last few years sending Steve out of the desert to other parts of North America, to the Middle East and so on to search for new inspiration, but I will never agree with all these words. I still see Steve at the top of his creative craft always exploring new grounds, he was born to do this and he does it constantly!!!

Richard  ;)

I agree, there's still a good overall quality in his output, not everyone will like everything, but I find at least two Steve Roach releases for each of the last years are very much worth it.

2013: Spiral Meditations (judging by the samples I'll probably love it), Live Transmission, (Live at Vortex Dome Immersion!)
2012: Soul Tones, Back to Life
2011: (Journey of One), The Road Eternal, The Desert Inbetween
2010: Sigh of Ages, Dream Tracker

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Vangelis
« on: December 12, 2013, 02:58:48 PM »
I like the first video a lot. There's an almost childish innocence to his music. It shows he never really had formal training. Not that there's anything wrong with that. In his case it gives the music something fresh and spontanious. It's limited on one hand and impressive on the other. And the way he commands that orchestral sound with all those custom built boxes and pedals is very impressive too.

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If you ask me nothing of recent years comes even close to Mystic Chords & Sacred Spaces. That's the standard he has to beat. If he can top that, it would raise the bar for the entire ambient genre. The real masterpieces come maybe once a decade. But there's still plenty of good stuff from 2003-2013. I absolutely love Dream Tracker for example, or Road Eternal. And Journey of One (yes from an older concert, but still...amazing). Arc of Passion, Soul Tones.

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It's fantastic. The rhythmic piece that starts around the 86th min. is an instant all time favorite. Just... awesome.

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I got it just in time yesterday because the podcast is taken down now.

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 25, 2013, 08:49:40 AM »
Anton Bruckner - Symphony No. 8

Second time I listened to this 1,5 hour mammoth symphony.

I'll save you all the trouble and post the most awesomely epic part :D

Karajan conducts Bruckner 8 (final movement, from the recapitulation)


From around 1887. Hans Zimmer and the likes -> eat your heart out.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Where is Tetsu Inoue?
« on: September 26, 2013, 12:49:20 PM »
This is sad.

Inland is glorious. Great ambient music.

Btw, for the Namlook compilation you'd also expect something from Schulze...

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: September 15, 2013, 03:44:11 PM »
Steve Roach - Mystic Chords & Sacred Spaces - Disc 3: Recent Future

Monumental. And those final tracks... possibly my favorite moment in ambient music. Just when you think the music cannot take you away any further... The Spiral of Time's Fire Burns On.... so surreal, yet strangely comforting.

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Unforgiveable indeed. Who in their right mind would write a book called the Ambient Century without even knowing these artists..... that's like writing a book about 19th century piano music and not mentioning Chopin and Liszt........ Some of the other stuff that is covered can only be (very) remotely associated with ambient music.... I'll avoid anything by him like the plague.

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: June 28, 2013, 04:44:54 AM »
The Blood Box album is fantastic indeed.

NP: Steve Roach - Atmospheric Conditions

One of his best! Especially In the Heart of Distant Horizons, I consider it one of his greatest pieces.

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: April 21, 2013, 01:25:59 PM »
Steve Roach - Soul Tones

As good as ever. Title track is marvelous. The exotic harmonies Steve Roach creates.... I could dwell inside them forever.

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: March 16, 2013, 05:06:59 AM »
Ralph Vaughan Williams - Tallis Fantasia

Amazing piece with massive lush string orchestra, recorded in a cathedral for nice reverb. :)

Vaughan-Williams - Tallis Fantasia (1/2) One of the best performances ever!!

Vaughan Williams - Tallis Fantasia (2/2) One of the best performances ever.

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 18, 2013, 03:35:29 AM »


Just purchased last night:

BLOOD BOX-Funeral in an Empty Room.  This is on the Power & Steel sublabel of Loki Foundation, Germany.  This is a SUPERB celestial darkambient release.  Don't let the cliched typical dark ambient title put you off;  highly recommend this one to all!

That is a superb album, and if you can find a copy of it, I would highly recommend his The Iron Dream also.

Yes, they are fantastic albums. There is great depth to the music of Blood Box, sometimes with very subtle, "subliminal" melodies. Just listen to the track "The Celestial Abyss" and notice how the harmonies and textures keep shifting all the time, creating fascinating mood changes.

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