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You gotta love the music for Star Trek. Simply phenomenal.
Hans Zimmer and the likes could learn a thing or two...

any news on the results?  :)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / maximum drift
« on: April 10, 2009, 01:35:55 PM »
What are the grandest, most expansive, majestic and full sounding soundscapes ever? :)
Tracks that make you feel small and insignificant... like drifting in an endless void, or being swept away in a cosmic storm...

something like
Steve Roach - Altus
Raison D'etre - Metamorphyses Phase IV

I guess it also depends on your age and country. I'm 28/Netherlands and I can't remember they ever broadcasted the original series here (except on BBC). I grew up with TNG and to a lesser extent DS9 and VOY and many reruns of those three.

TNG is like the ultimate space exploration series of meeting new races and discovering new phenomena. Solid characters and great 'self contained' episodes. Next to that also character development over the long run.

DS9 is definately my favorite. Although I can see why some may not like it that much, because it doesn't have that classic space exploration in TOS/TNG-style.
Sometimes it's more like a space soap, but a very good one. Lots of character development and of course a big continuing storyline that really kicked off at season 4 or so.
Drama, action, HUMOR, love stories, mass space battles... I don't think there has ever been a television series that created such a 'rich' universe, with so many different characters, stories, themes etc.

VOY is still good, but perhaps the lesser of the 3. It did have a number of completely brilliant episodes, but suffers a bit from the crew setup. About half of the crew were a bit weak, uninteresting or undeveloped characters. Especially the episodes involving Seven, or the Doctor or the Borg or interesting space phenomena were good.

I was talking more in general.. series, or a movie, or both... just something new, instead of going back to where it all started. Btw I highly doubt the original series are the most popular...

Personally I don't care too much for the movies either, but I thought First Contact was great. The movies could've ended there for me.

Enterprise is not worth mentioning. A proper new series after Voyager could've saved Trek. Preferably with some connections to DS9.

A mix of all of that. :D Science fiction is about the future. About going forward. Why why why do they have to look back again and try to rehash things from the past. I personally can't stand it.

They had established such a great universe/storyline/timeline with TNG/DS9/VOY. I don't get it why they haven't continued the Star Trek franchise along the line of those series.

I'm a fan, not a Trekkie, and I have nothing but negative feelings for this. More 'prequel' sh*t. An attempt to make a hollywood action blockbuster out of Star Trek.

I view it as the final death blow to Star Trek. The process started with the "Enterprise" series and the "Nemesis" movie.

TNG, DS9, VOY. That was Star Trek to me. My favorite is DS9, but they all had some brilliant episodes. They should have continued with that universe. A new storyline, but perhaps with a few familiar faces and some connections to the previous series. There was certainly some material left from DS9 and VOY. But all of that seems forever lost now. RIP Star Trek.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: March 30, 2009, 10:04:12 AM »
Ash Ra Tempel - Deep Distance

What a wonderful classic synth tune.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Tetsu Inoue
« on: March 16, 2009, 04:58:05 PM »
Organic Cloud is for sure in my all time ambient top 10, maybe even top 5.
I didn't care much for the latest 2350 Broadway.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: March 04, 2009, 10:52:07 AM »
I think I'm going to check out that Klaus Schulze album.

You should. :) I forgot to mention track 2 is even greater than 1 (but less dark, more melodic). Mirage is such a classic...a masterpiece that has no equal.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Darkest Ambient
« on: March 03, 2009, 10:38:36 AM »
Organic Cloud is awesome but the real standout tracks are the 'light' relaxing ones (3 & 4).

I'd like to mention Klaus Schulze - Mirage (1977) for its first track Velvet Voyage in particular (original releases, NOT the 2005 rerelease with a weaker version).
I consider it to be one of the greatest dark atmospheric electronic tracks. A cornerstone track. I don't think there was anything like it before that could be better compared to dark ambient. It's something I always return to eventually. Not 'strictly' dark ambient, but many familiar elements.

Now Playing / Re: "Classical" Music or Contemporary Composition Listeners?
« on: February 13, 2009, 04:55:54 PM »
Thanks ffcal and cookie monster. I put a lot of effort into that one. :)

I am currently giving a try at this veeery beautiful Etude from Scriabin:

It may not seem incredibly complicated but to play this with the proper voicing is really hard.

Really like the sample of A Deepening Shift on the atmoworks site. Looks like i'm gonna love this.

Now Playing / Re: "Classical" Music or Contemporary Composition Listeners?
« on: February 07, 2009, 12:59:37 PM »
Here's something on the piano I recently recorded. :)

Rachmaninov - Rhapsody on a theme of Paganini, 18th variation (solo piano arrangement)

Instrument: Roland HP-201 digital piano

and for those interested in the sheet music:
*link dead*


Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: February 02, 2009, 01:55:55 PM »
so much great piano recordings to discover on youtube

rachmaninov - prelude op. 32 no. 10

incredible, what music

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 24, 2009, 04:13:38 PM »
Vladimir Horowitz playing Alexander Scriabin - Etude Op. 2 No. 1

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach Starting Point ?
« on: January 20, 2009, 03:10:20 PM »
I could never get into Dreamtime Return because I really dislike the sound(s) of it.

But I do like, or love, most of his other stuff so far. I must say I do prefer his more 'active' music.
'Darkest Before Dawn' is definately too much for me. Or better said, too little. Too little substance. I just can't listen to such still, repetitive and minimal atmospheres. Maybe only as background sound.
I absolutely love Magnificent Void (IMO his all time greatest beyond any doubt), which is more like 'maximal atmospheres'. Although it took many, many listenings before I felt that way. :)

One of my favorite recent works is Arc of Passion, especially the first half of the title track (I think it's better than anything on Landmass, although I like that one too).
The warm sounds, the beautiful emotional chords, the rich and detailed sequences, the smooth build up. Seriously, this piece reaches a PERFECT momentum at some point. You will know when.

Anyway, maybe the best starting point would be Kairos. A fantastic 'showcase' of his music (mixed/edited material from various previous releases + some album-unique sounds) and u get great visuals with it too.

Everything and Nothing / Re: How to stay interested in music?
« on: January 17, 2009, 04:01:53 PM »
How to stay interested in music?
Listen to music that is new to you!

Classical piano music maybe?
Youtube a is great way to start discovering this music.

Richter: Rachmaninov - Prelude Op. 23 No. 4

Zimerman: Chopin - Ballade No. 4

Lugansky: Rachmaninov - Moment Musical 4

Kissin: Liszt - La Campanella

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: December 30, 2008, 02:47:35 PM »
Tetsu Inoue - Organic Cloud

Track 3 & 4 are two of the most godly pieces in all of ambient.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Ambient Survey 2008 - time to Vote!
« on: December 30, 2008, 02:07:47 PM »
Cool, making it now. For the main list I'll use a very broad definition of ambient (including everything in those 4 categories ambient beatless, ambient with beats, sequencer/berlin & dark ambient). With that in mind my first 10 only has 2 albums from after 1990. :o

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