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Skyrim is in a league of its own in terms of open-ended gameplay and sandbox world. I can't think of anything that comes close. Probably for the best. I don't have time for such extended adventures.

Right now, I'm playing Final Fantasy 14 (MMORPG) on PC

This is sort of contradictory. You're playing an MMORPG, which are the most time consuming games out there, but don't have time for Skyrim. :)

I did listen to "Spiral Meditations" today, what can I say, it sounded very mediocre to me...
The sound quality is not good, no depth, everything is just average, no magic...

I am still convinced it sounds good in steves studio, but it is to me clear he have made dramatic changes in is signal path...all sounds so much cheaper now a lot of the later releases...sad to hear...

Sorry, guys, but to me, works such as "Back To Life", "Tales From The Ultra Tribe", "Soul Tones" or "Future Flows" are no short of Steve's many milestones mentioned in above posts. Maybe these works are not that catchy at the "first listen", but to me, each new deep listening session provides a truly immersing and rewarding listening experience. "Back To Life" is definitely an ultimate milestone, on "Tales From The Ultra Tribe" Steve & Byron have pushed the limits again, "Future Flows", "Nightbloom", "The Road Eternal" or "Sigh Of Ages" are all masterpieces. Haven't received "Spiral Meditations" CD yet, but I simply can't imagine no magic, no depth on it... I have read several reviews during the last few years sending Steve out of the desert to other parts of North America, to the Middle East and so on to search for new inspiration, but I will never agree with all these words. I still see Steve at the top of his creative craft always exploring new grounds, he was born to do this and he does it constantly!!!

Richard  ;)

I agree, there's still a good overall quality in his output, not everyone will like everything, but I find at least two Steve Roach releases for each of the last years are very much worth it.

2013: Spiral Meditations (judging by the samples I'll probably love it), Live Transmission, (Live at Vortex Dome Immersion!)
2012: Soul Tones, Back to Life
2011: (Journey of One), The Road Eternal, The Desert Inbetween
2010: Sigh of Ages, Dream Tracker

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Vangelis
« on: December 12, 2013, 02:58:48 PM »
I like the first video a lot. There's an almost childish innocence to his music. It shows he never really had formal training. Not that there's anything wrong with that. In his case it gives the music something fresh and spontanious. It's limited on one hand and impressive on the other. And the way he commands that orchestral sound with all those custom built boxes and pedals is very impressive too.

If you ask me nothing of recent years comes even close to Mystic Chords & Sacred Spaces. That's the standard he has to beat. If he can top that, it would raise the bar for the entire ambient genre. The real masterpieces come maybe once a decade. But there's still plenty of good stuff from 2003-2013. I absolutely love Dream Tracker for example, or Road Eternal. And Journey of One (yes from an older concert, but still...amazing). Arc of Passion, Soul Tones.

It's fantastic. The rhythmic piece that starts around the 86th min. is an instant all time favorite. Just... awesome.

I got it just in time yesterday because the podcast is taken down now.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 25, 2013, 08:49:40 AM »
Anton Bruckner - Symphony No. 8

Second time I listened to this 1,5 hour mammoth symphony.

I'll save you all the trouble and post the most awesomely epic part :D

From around 1887. Hans Zimmer and the likes -> eat your heart out.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Where is Tetsu Inoue?
« on: September 26, 2013, 12:49:20 PM »
This is sad.

Inland is glorious. Great ambient music.

Btw, for the Namlook compilation you'd also expect something from Schulze...

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: September 15, 2013, 03:44:11 PM »
Steve Roach - Mystic Chords & Sacred Spaces - Disc 3: Recent Future

Monumental. And those final tracks... possibly my favorite moment in ambient music. Just when you think the music cannot take you away any further... The Spiral of Time's Fire Burns On.... so surreal, yet strangely comforting.

Unforgiveable indeed. Who in their right mind would write a book called the Ambient Century without even knowing these artists..... that's like writing a book about 19th century piano music and not mentioning Chopin and Liszt........ Some of the other stuff that is covered can only be (very) remotely associated with ambient music.... I'll avoid anything by him like the plague.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: June 28, 2013, 04:44:54 AM »
The Blood Box album is fantastic indeed.

NP: Steve Roach - Atmospheric Conditions

One of his best! Especially In the Heart of Distant Horizons, I consider it one of his greatest pieces.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: April 21, 2013, 01:25:59 PM »
Steve Roach - Soul Tones

As good as ever. Title track is marvelous. The exotic harmonies Steve Roach creates.... I could dwell inside them forever.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: March 16, 2013, 05:06:59 AM »
Ralph Vaughan Williams - Tallis Fantasia

Amazing piece with massive lush string orchestra, recorded in a cathedral for nice reverb. :)

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 18, 2013, 03:35:29 AM »

Just purchased last night:

BLOOD BOX-Funeral in an Empty Room.  This is on the Power & Steel sublabel of Loki Foundation, Germany.  This is a SUPERB celestial darkambient release.  Don't let the cliched typical dark ambient title put you off;  highly recommend this one to all!

That is a superb album, and if you can find a copy of it, I would highly recommend his The Iron Dream also.

Yes, they are fantastic albums. There is great depth to the music of Blood Box, sometimes with very subtle, "subliminal" melodies. Just listen to the track "The Celestial Abyss" and notice how the harmonies and textures keep shifting all the time, creating fascinating mood changes.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 01, 2013, 04:38:30 PM »
Steve Roach - Journey of One

Part 1 is where it's at. I think I've said it before but the soft outro begs to be played louder.
It may not seem all that special to some, but to me it's a truly profound ending to an already brilliant piece...

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: December 09, 2012, 06:00:47 AM »
Scriabin - Prelude Op. 16 No. 1

To be fair, in the 70´s this was rather "new and different" music but in general i never felt ever that his music had a long term value.

My criticism was directed at his post 70s and current music. To me his 70s classics do have long term value. When I listen to Mirage or Moondawn (also a bit of 'X') from time to time, I am still almost as excited as when I heard it for the first time. There's something wonderful and organic about those discs, something he has never managed to capture again. (Some of KS' moments on the Dark Side of the Moog series are very good though.)

If we're going to compare with Steve Roach... well, SR has moved way beyond KS & TD territory with some of his music and I believe he is still moving forward one way or another. So in my opinion... KS & TD 70s classics stand firmly among the best electronic/ambient music of today. But SR has been more consistent in quality and more innovative over a longer period of time.

I once got the Historic Edition, but I quickly ripped it and sold it. Only a few tracks are really worth it, like "Schwanensee I".
Seems to me the philosophy behind those massive releases is to just release anything that was recorded by KS no matter how weak the content.
While I still hold KS in very high esteem for his timeless classics from the 70s and the occasional good album in later decades, I've become more critical towards him recently.
When I take a look at some more recent videos of live performances on youtube, I feel that he is a bit of a one trick pony and his music hasn't evolved at all... doing the same thing over and over again, the endless synth noodling, playing the same chords he has used for decades and randomly improvising a bit with his limited keyboard abilities. Sometimes it has its moments, but after a while it just gets dull.
It's nice for him that he still enjoys what he does and that there are still fans, but I have to say that - just like Tangerine Dream - KS' prime was in the 70s and he never really moved beyond that time.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Overrated Ambient
« on: September 08, 2012, 02:09:31 PM »
Boards of Canada
Possibly the most overrated group ever, making 'ambientish' music with some beats. They have absolutely nothing to say. Just my opinion.

Erik Satie

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