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I didn't see this posted here yet, a friend of Barry's posted this on his FaceBook page:

Barry Craig died of natural causes on 9/4/11 in Los Angeles, CA. He leaves behind his wife Jane, parents Jim and Doris, and sisters Cheryl and Laurie. Friends and followers are invited to leave words of remembrance about Barry on this Facebook page. Those wishing to express words to his family are invited to contact his sisters: Cheryl or Laurie = Barry was a lover of music from an early age and went on to produce numerous CDs under the name "A Produce". His most recent CD release in 2011 was INTANGIBLE, performed by A Produce & Loren Nerell. Barry's musical works are available from or or or by direct order from his private label TRANCE PORT at


Yes, very sad news and so sudden.  I will miss Barry and his music, but we do have his music now to listen to in his memory.

A few years ago I arranged for a dinner gathering in L.A. with Barry, along with Loren Nerell, Dean De Benedictis, and "surprise guest" Kelly David (a surprise to me that evening). Barry and his wife sat across from me during our dinner and while our visit was short, I got to know a kind soul - as was everyone there that evening.  I have fond memories of that night and I am thankful to have spent some time chatting with Barry.

Over the years Barry and I kept in semi-regular contact (mostly on FaceBook).  He was very generous with sharing his music with me, and I have some music material meant for a collaboration piece that I hope to release in the future in his memory.

R.I.P. Barry.  You will be missed.
MySpace is truly awful now. I honestly can not even figure out how to edit the page any ore it's becme so complicated and messy. Nothing makes sense. I really wonder what the heck they were thinking. I'd shut my page down except I managed to secure the "numina" name for the page link so I fear someone else may hijack it so will just keep it as is. I used to like the site bit now it's one big cluster of mess and advertisements.
Quote from: hdibrell on August 08, 2011, 02:12:14 PM
I downloaded "Subterranean Landscapes" and "Dawn of Obscurity" yesterday. I'm really enjoying "Subterranean Landscapes" alot! I haven't had a chance to listen to  "Dawn of Obscurity" yet. Looking forward to listening to it tonight.

hdibrell - thank you so much for your comment and support. It was a lot of work but I am happy with the result and it was really great working with Nathan Youngblood and Biff Johnson on "Subterranean". "Dawn of Obscurity", to me, is a deeper, more introspective set of pieces, hope you enjoy it equally as well.
Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
August 05, 2011, 11:29:03 AM
Quote from: Antdude on August 04, 2011, 08:12:28 PM
Numina - Subterranean Landscapes, Dawn of Obscurity

(Arrived in the mail today. Thanks, Jesse!)

Thank *you* Antdude! Enjoy the "landscapes".  :)
Thanks gentlemen, it was a lot of work producing these two (well, three really as there's on in the queue at Hypnos)... and more work to go. Sonically and production wise, I feel like these are three of the best albums I've done since Sanctuary of Dreams.

As for the thing, what Forrest says is precisely what happened.  It really was too bad as I *still* think the interface that had at the time was really user friendly and reaching out to people and making a little money worked very well... it garnered me a lot of fans and I am lucky for being around at the right time... then MySpace was great for awhile and now it's just a mess.

It's been a long time, but I have put together, for the time being, two new releases on the Numinamusic Recordings label are now available. These are the first Numina releases in over 3 year.

"Subterranean Landscapes" is a dark-desert ambience style album which is a culmination of material over the past few years inspired by the alien landscapes of the desert southwest and includes guest appearances from the amazing Nathan Younblood and the classic-artist Biff Johnson.

"Dawn of Obscurity"
is a project I started earlier this year and is a lonely dark-ambient long-form piece comprised of 6 distinct indexed tracks which seamlessly blend into each other.

I have a 2-pack order option (both albums for $21 + shipping). Take a listen to some audio and video samples here:

More titles loom on the horizon as a long lull in creativity is becoming a realization. Later this year, a new Hypnos CD, "The Deception of Reality"... stay tuned.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Special Editions
June 08, 2011, 08:33:59 AM
Quote from: mgriffin on June 08, 2011, 08:18:23 AM
The CR releases that had problems with cracking have a metal post that the disc is pressed onto. The metal is not flexible enough and every time you put the disc into the case or take it out, it puts stress on the hole in the disc. Lots of people have reported radial cracks starting from the hole in their CR discs, and I'd really recommend either keeping the disc in an envelope inside the case (not on the metal post), or at least making a CDR backup that you keep somewhere safe.

I see.
Everything and Nothing / Re: Special Editions
June 08, 2011, 08:08:00 AM
Curious - how is it the discs crack in those metal tins? I have a few CDs in those packages but the holder ring is rubbery and seems flexible enough. I'll let them loose just to be sure though.
I have to say that personally I think a FaceBook band page will provide you with more exposure than any other site - at least that's been my experience. Frankly, I was reluctant to create a personal FB page, but my wife forced me... after creating my Numina band page I have noticed more traffic and activity from that than anywhere else - although admittedly I don't participate in many of the online sites. I think the reason for this is the average person is more on FB than they are actively searching specifically for ambient music and when people start to thumb through other people's music likes thenthey come across your page... it's effectieness is similar to how MySpace was - I don't even bother with MySpace anymore, its interface is absolutely awful - so is FaceBook's but not nearly as bad.

Anywho, I'm just wanting to suggest my opinion that FaceBook is a promo tool not to be overlooked.
Saul - I think many of us electronic musicians are in the same boat - especially us Americans. In addition to posting to the Hypnos Forum and rM and a handful of the e-lists to network (speaking of which I never see posts on spacemusic e-list anymore) I think you should set up a FaceBook artist/music page (looks like you just did? - )

At this point, aside from some key contacts, I don't bother with promoting much because there's just too much muck to weed through and I'm afraid it will only get worse and takes an inordinate amount of time with little to no response.  The good news is you have a pretty big name in the EM scene and hopefully past and present fans will continue to keep track of your work and continue to return to your future music.  We also have at least 5 decent radio programs in the US that do reach people.

More importantly, I don't know about the rest of you, but I almost only sell CDs to folks outside the U.S. - it's probably about 95% within the past year - Europe, Canada, and Australia are consistent places I send tunes to - and they all still LIKE CDs!  The U.S. is not receptive to this music like it used to be (although I do anticipate a turnaround at some point), people here are not buying as many CDs, and the fan base is really small in the States.  My point being if you do spend time on networking and promo, I suggest looking into radio programs and reviewers and forums outside the U.S. while continuing to send the usual stuff to (at least) Bill Fox, Eric Meece, Diliberto, Renee Blanche, and Star's End for Stateside support.... or maybe I'm just too old fashioned.
Cynthia = Synthetic? Synthesizer?

Interesting story Michael. Kind of creepy.
I wish there was a way to see old eBay listings - and old craigslist ads. Is there an archiver for these sites?
Hey, I paid a lot of money for this stupid stick!  :-*
Quote from: LNerell on March 12, 2011, 12:30:03 PM
I probably won't go see this film as I do the battle: LA every day, its called the 405 freeway.  ;D :P :D
jimzzzak - have you come across very many CDRs without paper labels that have failed?
For grins I sent an e-mail to that site that was selling a bunch of Numina titles and asked "from who do you have permission to sell my albums?" Well, a couple weeks later I got a reply from them saying they "have removed all of my albums".  8)
Happy birthday Jim! Miss ya my friend.  :'(
Computers, Internet and Technology / Re: = 404
February 21, 2011, 06:34:06 PM
Quote from: mgriffin on February 21, 2011, 03:51:21 PM
These illegal Russian scam download sites pop up faster than you can knock them down. Sometimes I try writing to them, but if often doesn't make any difference.

I tend to feel anyone who thinks they're getting a great deal on a $2 FLAC download deserves what they're likely to get (which is a bunch of Russian hackers and gangsters running amok on their credit card information).

Good point.