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He thinks Peter Gabriel and Bryan Ferry and Boston put out too many albums.

Mind you, he might have a point!

I agree. Boston has put out four too many albums.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Autechre - is it worth it?
« on: January 30, 2008, 06:33:26 PM »
I feel the same way about Lou Reed's Metal Machine Music. I didn't buy it , but I had a friend who did, and of course it's the most hideous screeeching imaginable (I dare anyone to come up with something worse). It's like the ultimate "fuck you" to your audience. And there were people who claimed to love it! ???

And there's Bob Dylan's Self Portrait, a similar exercise in fucking with people.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Autechre - is it worth it?
« on: January 30, 2008, 05:36:39 PM »
Mike- Don't get me wrong- I'm not criticizing you, or anyone else, for judging them that harshly. I've felt the same way towards a band (or two) who I felt had "let me down". My impression from you guys is that they've become very "noise" oriented, and I probably wouldn't like them myself.

I just find it remarkable that EVERYONE here feels the same way, and I'm wondering how they have any fans at all, if they've changed so drastically???

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Autechre - is it worth it?
« on: January 30, 2008, 04:32:19 PM »
Wow, what an interesting thread. I don't know who these Autechre guys are, or what their music is like,  but seldom have I read such consistently vitriolic criticism of a band's style of music (or non-music?) You guys really do sound like scorned lovers!

However, someone out there must enjoy their music, right?

Everything and Nothing / Re: Vinyl
« on: January 29, 2008, 08:06:56 PM »
True, Joe R.  I can relate to your point of view about making your music available in the most accessible format but without being pretentious (please do know that I'm not  ;) I've learned with vidnaObmana that this is just not what I want to do.  I feel much more comfortable with smaller-scale releases but ones which are totally in tune with my vision and not because I want to sell more copies.

True enough Dirk, I've spoken with you enough to know that you are not pretentious. And it's admirable that you don't compromise your vision just to sell more copies. Sometimes integrity means more than the almighty dollar. :)

Everything and Nothing / Re: Vinyl
« on: January 28, 2008, 03:44:12 PM »

When I see how my fear falls burning vinyls are selling and how enthusiastic people respond to the covers, packaging and uniqueness of such releases, I can only conclude that vinyl is back.

Obviously Dirk, you're entitled to do things as you see fit. If I were a musician however, I think I'd want my music released in the most accessible format. I know what you mean about a larger surface for artwork on the LP, but for me the music takes precedence.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: The Winterhouse: Slow Promises
« on: January 27, 2008, 06:04:46 PM »

Many thanks, Joe :)  I had been meaning to email you about Winterhouse
since you had not posted anything on it ... you had me worried !

Did you think you were losing your touch? ;)

I also love the oppressive gray drone of "Beneath the Gray Walls".

Thank you...  ank you...  k you... you... ou... u... ...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: The Winterhouse: Slow Promises
« on: January 27, 2008, 03:41:37 PM »
I agree (although belatedly) that this is a great disc. I must admit that it didn't strike a chord with me at first -perhaps I was blinded by the ethereal majesty of Anthony's other release, "Falling Into The Sky". But now I see the light!

Highlights: Inside And Out, and Letting Go.

I echo Alan's endorsement of Hakobune. Irresistable guitar fuzz! (swoon)

  Even Hypnos was originally named something different, back in 95-96 before we actually got around to releasing CDs, but the name was changed when a conflict was discovered.

Just curious- what was the original name of the Hypnos label?

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Favorite ECM releases
« on: January 23, 2008, 08:22:09 PM »
I'm just recently scratching the surface of jazz, not very familiar yet, but there's 3 ECM albums that I love:

Vassilis Tsabropoulos- Achirana
Marilyn Crispell- Amaryllis
Marilyn Crispell- Storyteller; this one may be more minimal than Amaryllis, and it's every bit as gripping.

Hmmm...  strangely, I've never heard of this Gas fellow, but I'll definitely have to do some exploring.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Alio Die
« on: January 22, 2008, 07:52:42 PM »
I felt the same way about Angels Fly Souvenir- the snoring was irritating and obnoxious.

Has anyone mentioned Under An Holy Ritual?  I love that one. Very intense & dark.

I thought "yous guys" was a Michigan thing. We say it all the time here.

We say "recession" and "unemployment" a lot lately too.

Hey, I like the sound of both of these discs. I much prefer Gareth's second, softer drone, to the first one, on that "Penny To Drop" album.

And Alan, as usual, is on top of the guitar-drone scene...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bill Evans
« on: January 18, 2008, 07:49:33 PM »
Hi Jeff!  :)

Yes, I mentioned that Marcin Wasilewski- "Trio" disc at the beginning of this thread. I LOVE that disc, and it's one of the reasons I'm pursuing this jazz thing further.

Vassilis Tsabropoulos- "Achirana" is another drop-dead awesome piano/bass/percussion disc, probably my favorite one yet.

Congrats, Anthony! Falling Into the Sky deserves all the exposure it can get.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Alio Die
« on: January 18, 2008, 07:26:56 PM »
9 Dragons-

Oddly, Mother Sunrise had the same effect on me- couldn't get into it, couldn't get into it, and then suddenly, "Click"! Now I consider it one of Stefano's finest.

Next step: you simply MUST get Apsaras! Drop-dead gorgeous drones & watery sound samples, along with Amelia Cuni's wordless vocals. I put off ordering this at first, because I had misgivings about vocals on an ambient disc, but her voice adds to the ambience rather than distracting. Perhaps Stefano's finest.

Another highlight for me is Password for Entheogenic Experience- deep, intense, trippy & hypnotic. Smoke a joint and wear headphones for this one, if you're so inclined... (no, forget it, that would be against the law. ;))

This has nothing to do with the subject, but it's nice to see you Austere dudes around again! Hope yer both doing fine :)

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