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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Infraction, Some Great Music
« on: January 31, 2008, 02:08:41 PM »
I agree that Infraction is one of the top few ambient labels out there, and also one of the few that never releases anything disappointing.  Jason has done a great job and I hope it continues and grows!

Everything and Nothing / Re: TV: Lost
« on: January 31, 2008, 09:37:40 AM »
Tonight's the night, season 4 premiere.

Yeah, Jeff's the opposite of prolific.  He thinks Peter Gabriel and Bryan Ferry and Boston put out too many albums.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Pads from the waveform up...
« on: January 30, 2008, 07:52:29 PM »
Mike - I think you're confusing subtractive with additive...  subtractive would be the big analogs of the 70's and 80's...  moogs, arps, early prophets, etc...

You're right... I have to start posting in less of a hurry, and thinking for a few seconds first!



Another new (old) Hypnos artist?
We've been in discussions this past couple weeks about Hypnos becoming the exclusive outlet for a recording artist who has released music on Hypnos before, but not recently.  Can't give any details about this quite yet, maybe in a few week, however it represents a major coup for Hypnos in terms of bringing a respected and prolific sound artist back into the fold.

my guess is richard bone

I can't play "no, that's not it" with guesses, because it would be narrowed-down pretty quickly that way.

But, some time in the future, you will find out whether or not your guess is correct! 

Everything and Nothing / Re: What should a small record label do?
« on: January 30, 2008, 06:17:43 PM »
Right, there is a core group of extremely loyal people who will stand by a small label and buy pretty much everything they put out.  In the case of Hypnos, because we sell other labels' music, and the self-released CDs of independent artists, our operation is also further supported by our reselling of non-Hypnos CDs.

There are individuals out there (some on this Forum, but mostly not) who seem to buy every single thing we put up onto the Hypnos store.  It's inspiring, gratifying, and a little scary!

Everything and Nothing / Re: What should a small record label do?
« on: January 30, 2008, 05:45:02 PM »
And if I came across as whiny, well then I am.  ;D

Sorry but this has been a petpeeve of mine since about two weeks after Terraform was released when I found that CD on a bittorrent site that listed it being downloaded more times that first two weeks of its release then we have sold of the CD in now almost two years.

To play devil's advocate for a moment, just for fun, a fairly good argument could be made that virtually all of the people who downloaded it would never have purchased it, even if the tracks had never been available for download from any source.

Of course, the counter argument would be that any lost sales, even if only a small percentage of those who downloaded the material, are harmful to the artist and thus unfair.

An even more devilish devil's advocate might say, you might have gained more sales by people who heard the download and loved it, than you lost from people who would've purchased the CD but never did because they had the digital version.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Autechre - is it worth it?
« on: January 30, 2008, 05:41:45 PM »
There's "noise" and then there's "noise."  Noise can be treated artfully, or it can be an irritating racket.  If it's enough of an irritating racket, people listening might almost start thinking you're kind of having a laugh at their expense.

Everything and Nothing / Re: What should a small record label do?
« on: January 30, 2008, 04:53:33 PM »
If my initial post comes across as whiny,  I should clarify that I really meant this in more of a general "what should a small label do?" sense, rather than, "poor beleaguered Hypnos."  Hypnos is doing quite well, selling more CDs all the time, and we feel our direction is definitely upward despite file sharing, CDR swapping, bittorrent, rapidshare, limewire, or whatever else.  Re-reading my first note, I see I described a more negative and dire situation, than what we're really dealing with here. 

We wouldn't be scheduling more and more CD releases all the time if we didn't feel many people still enjoyed buying CDs.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Chat feature in this Forum?
« on: January 30, 2008, 04:45:25 PM »
There was briefly a chat feature on the hypnos site (not part of the forum) years ago, but it was a clumsy solution, not well-integrated into the rest of the site.  The one I've been contemplating is an integrated part of the Forum software, so it would befairly natural  to click the "chat" button on the bar up top, and see who was in the chat room.  Though there seems to be little eagerness for this feature, I might check into installing it at some point, if the time investment isn't too great (or if others speak up and say they'd really like to have it)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Autechre - is it worth it?
« on: January 30, 2008, 04:42:55 PM »
Wow, what an interesting thread. I don't know who these Autechre guys are, or what their music is like,  but seldom have I read such consistently vitriolic criticism of a band's style of music (or non-music?) You guys really do sound like scorned lovers!

However, someone out there must enjoy their music, right?

You're right, Joe.  There are plenty of recording artists who have declined in my estimation, and I don't get too worked up about them.  Few have ever pissed me off by going so directly from "top 10 wonderful" to "so awful as to be insulting to anyone who ever enjoyed them."

Everything and Nothing / What should a small record label do?
« on: January 30, 2008, 03:53:33 PM »
I wonder, what should be the appropriate reaction for a small record label, to a place like this:

Today, this blog is linking to downloads at 320kbps quality, of a couple of Hypnos CDs that we sell for $8.99.  I do understand the argument that sometimes, people hear something they've downloaded or reeived for free, and they like it so much they end up buying it.  I also understand that many who download it and listen, would never have purchased the CD in the first place, so in such cases there is no "cost" of a lost sale.

Still, despite all my attempts to look at this from some different angle or other, it's hard not to feel a bit annoyed about that.  So much for the argument that people only download music because "$18.99 is too much for a CD with only two good singles on it," or to "screw the major labels!" 

I wonder, separating out any personal annoyance or sense of being "cheated" I may feel, if people who make available downloads like that one realize that labels like Hypnos often sell such a small number of CDs as to make it just barely worthy of continuing, from a financial point of view? 

Or that the loss of a few hundred CDs sold could quite literally be the difference between a label continuing for another year, or not? 

Or that even if the label survives, a given artist's CD sales might be borderline enough to begin with, that the loss of just a hundred CDs sold might be the difference between the label opting to pick up the artist's next album, or passing on it as not viable?

One of the two albums available for download on that site, has just within the past year or two, finally sold enough copies to have paid for the expense of pressing it in the first place, nearly a decade ago.  It realy makes me wonder, without being hysterically possessive about the music on the label, or without being unrealistic about the complex matter of how and why music is shared without any money flowing to the label or the artist, if people actually have any idea of the financial realities of a small label like Hypnos, or Infraction, or Umbra?

This isn't meant to be an angry rant, nor to take an unrealistic view of file sharing, not at all.  I just wonder, what would be the right response in a case like this?  Should I write to those people and ask them to remove the downloads?  Should I just shrug it off and say, you can't control the impulse people have to take a shortcut, and you can't counter the rationalizations they will make in order to make themselves feel better?  I'm inclined to do nothing, but maybe I ought to be more active in searching for, and communicating with, people who run sites like that.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Now watching
« on: January 30, 2008, 03:30:34 PM »
We've also been sorting our way through the Harry Potter films, completely out of order!  We both saw 1 & 2 separately, before we were together, then we saw #5, then #4, then #3 a couple nights ago.  I think the third one, Prisoner of Azkaban, is the best of the 5 Harry Potter movies so far.


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Autechre - is it worth it?
« on: January 30, 2008, 03:18:31 PM »
I've gone through all the various coping stages, years ago, dealing with one of my favorite electronic music acts becoming utterly useless and lame.  Now I just don't care too much any more.  In fact, I don't look at Amber, Tri Repetae, or Incunabula the same way now, quite.  They're like a girlfriend who cheated on me, and I can never look at the pre-transgression times the same way again!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Autechre - is it worth it?
« on: January 30, 2008, 03:03:45 PM »
They can't disappear up their own ass with a new release when they've already been dwelling up within said own-ass for the past decade, almost.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Pads from the waveform up...
« on: January 30, 2008, 03:02:29 PM »
If I were to recommend a method of creating rich, evolving pads, I would not start with subtractive synthesis, which seems to me better for more sterile, cleaner sounds... sometimes even metallic or bright or thing.

I have no doubt there will be others who speak up here and say "Not so, I create wonderful rich, gurgling, warm, ripe sounds with my K5000S" but to me, it's not the right tool for that sort of thing.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Your MySpace experiences ?
« on: January 30, 2008, 02:15:23 PM »
ummm.....Mike?  Lena?  Didn't you two kind of, like, MEET on myspace?  I bet Mike was one of those creepy old men Lena was talking about... :)

Seriously, I've had a pretty decent experience on myspace, but I keep my friend's list purposely small, just because there ARE a lot of "fake profiles" on there, it seems- profiles that send out nothing but spam and what are probably phishing schemes.  In fact, of my "top friends", all but two are people I'd known before I was on myspace.

Yeah, I was about to concoct some kind of wise remark about how it IS possible to meet nice people through myspace, since I got a wife out of the deal.

I love the 'Echoes of Polyhymnia' Cover.

That's good to hear -- it's Lena's first effort at CD cover artwork so I'm sure she'll be pleased by your reaction.

It appears that the renaming will be subtle, but sufficient to distinguish one from the other.  The plan now is that Nebula should become NebulŠ, though that may still change.

Everything and Nothing / Re: The Hobbit and Peter Jackson
« on: January 30, 2008, 11:35:55 AM »
More news about the upcoming Hobbit film(s), from the Hollywood Reporter.  Briefly, they're saying Peter Jackson will produce, WETA will do special effects, and Guillermo Del Toro will direct.  For those unfamiliar with the last name, Del Toro directed Pan's Labyrinth (which should be enough for you all by itself) as well as The Devil's Backbone, and Hellboy.

The plan is to release the first film in 2010 and the second in 2011, after filming them back-to-back like with the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

I believe strongly in Guillermo Del Toro's geek credibility and think this is every bit as good as if Jackson were directing himself.

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