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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / How to create the Illusion...
« on: April 10, 2009, 03:48:35 PM »
How to create the illusion of always "falling" endlessly with sound ?
You feel weightless...
Some Ambience have this drifting/falling feel (in an metaphysical sense).

I wonder how to create this illusion with sound ?
I know Pitch/Reverb is important maybe "stretching" as well.....but I would like to know more in depth if possible.

Well if some one could demonstrate the technique...

With a simple piano hit or something...and massive reverb...

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Robert Rich - Live Archive
« on: March 31, 2009, 01:05:07 PM »
Has been released in 7 volumes.

Samples can be heard here
http://www.musiczeit.com/directory.php?artist=83&title=Robert+Rich

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Everything and Nothing / Zeitgeist: Addendum
« on: March 19, 2009, 07:24:41 PM »
You all should really see this documentary, especially now in the times of global financial crisis...
Watch this documentary and open your eyes...and realize...what a corrupt world we live in...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7065205277695921912

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http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper

I have been using Firefox for many years, but according to this test
I get about 65% better performance in Chrome, and the difference is visible as well, especially on flash based sites.
The question is if the Ad blocker plus plugin for Firefox, would in anyway, affect the result in the test.

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Everything and Nothing / Dreams
« on: February 13, 2009, 03:36:35 AM »
I thought about making this thread this night,  would be interesting and inspiring to read what the forum members dream about during sleep.
If you have been dreaming something you want to share no matter how strange and bizarre, this thread is the place to do it.


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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Camel Audio - Alchemy
« on: February 11, 2009, 05:42:04 PM »
http://www.camelaudio.com/Alchemy.php

This one looks quite revolutionizing. I will begin to work with Alchemy in a couple of weeks.

And what got me more interested is that Robert Rich, has included some samples from his own made flute... (among other sounds)



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http://www.oilandwaterfilm.com/

I can deeply recommend this film, it is only 25 minutes long, but it has some of the most beautiful moving pictures I have ever seen.
A lot of water reflection, a true poetic and artistic expression.

The soundtrack by Jeff Greinke also adds a lot of weight and melancholy to the pictures.

"Oil and Water, Reflections on Nature, Madness and Psyche, explores the relationship between humans and the natural world. Shot in Prince William Sound, Alaska, over the course of 20 years, it is an introspective chronicle of loss within the destruction of pristine wilderness. Filmmaker Corwin Fergus uses the tragedy of the Exxon Valdez oil spill to examine how wilderness is critical habitat for the human psyche and how thousands of years of cultural history have led us away from this once most obvious of truths.

Superimposing images and layering psychological inquiry with poetry, Oil and Water is an experimental environmental film, attempting to sway the heart in ways reason and science cannot. Essential to the film's premise is that the illusion of objectivity severs us from our interconnection with the earth where its fate and ours are joined. The film manages to be vast in its scope while maintaining a deeply personal narrative of the filmmaker's relationship with nature.
"



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What is the ultimate way to experience ambient music if you have a choice ?
If you have any more option you want to add...please tell me...

My choice is Headphones...


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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Ambient music and Mastering
« on: January 27, 2009, 08:38:41 PM »
Yes mastering with Ambient music is very different to other music. Please feel free to share your experience on this...
Personally I am still learning, I am very careful with using traditional mastering compressors such as L3, since they do take
away a lot of the "space" in the music. Ambient music is especially sensitive since it is often include a lot of reverb/space.

The Volume level is always a problem when you mix down, it usually sounds good in your DAW, but then in your media player
you notice the volume is very low, normalizing audio does not always help...

Around -8 db to -3 db I think is a good range for ambient music and where the sound sounds best.

I have yet not tried many mastering tools that works good with ambient music.  Usually analog  based mastering tools
does best, since they add warmth to the sound and do keep more of the dynamic range.  They do often color the sound and are not always as transparent.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Steve Roach News
« on: January 24, 2009, 12:42:32 PM »
I will continue to feature selected �releases from new and established artists which I find find ear-opening.�A new release from a unique duo, Lapis Ensemble, deserves your attention. Please read more about this below. �

For nearly three years I have been working on�Dynamic Stillness. This �2-CD�solo release of all-new pieces� is �coming in a few months on Projekt. It inhabits the Immersion, Mystic Chords and Magnificent Void dimensions, but deeper and further "inside".�These�are the� places I �love to live within,�and lately I've been in full habitation mode with these pieces�and their�progression�for months. I look forward to sharing this "Stillness" with you.�The official release date is April, but we will have copies at the site before then. Please stay tuned...

There� are already a� few new Timeroom Editions releases� cued up and in production, one of which is� "Destination Beyond". This� takes the momentum of Arc of Passion and Landmass� in to� the studio, resulting in a single�70-minute road trip to the next place at the next horizon.�

I will meet you there at this next horizon, and from that point look towards the next one. All the best for '09 and again, thank you for your continued interest and support of the music over the years. �

Steve Roach

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / VOID OF SILENCE - Human antithesis
« on: January 20, 2009, 09:38:00 PM »
I can really recommend this album, emotional doom metal mixed with sweeping ambient soundscapes...

www.myspace.com/voidofsilence 

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http://steveroach.com/Music/discography.php?albumID=415

Can't stop listening to "Divine Innermission" ...

SPIRIT DOME returns with a perfect companion, LIVE ARCHIVE. Two out-of-print releases from this acclaimed ambient duo are brought together in this value-priced 2-CD release. Living proof of the power of live performance, these recordings are so immediate and engaging it would be easy to assume they were crafted over months in the studio. LIVE ARCHIVE, from their 1997 tour, serves as a natural complement to 2004's SPIRIT DOME, recorded live to stereo master in one take in a studio-like environment. LIVE ARCHIVE was originally released as a small run on the Groove label in Holland, and has been out of print for several years.

Steve Roach / Vidna Obama's 2002 CD INNERZONE served as the doorway to the surreal environment explored on SPIRIT DOME. Recorded in one continuous 74 minute session in a hotel room in Philadelphia, this is a dark sanctuary of pure texture and beautiful, if foreboding, dissonance pulled along with pulsing beats, subtle loops and dense soundworlds. The track captures a chilling gothic ambience that offers the exploration of remote psychological states of awareness. This is achieved by way of extensive live processing of instruments including fujara (overtone flute), guitar, and the seemingly bottomless wellspring of electro-acoustic sounds found only in the duo's soundscapes.

LIVE ARCHIVE, on the other hand, collects peak performance moments of pure energy and emotion from the duo's live adventures in Europe and the US. The wide range of venues, traveling to various countries, and above all their first tour together fueled their mutual intentions, challenging the artists to create music that does not know the limits of jet lag, equipment failures, and physical demands which occur when leaving the sanctuary of the studio. The sound is steeped in their tribal-ambient period. "Verucchio Invocation" opens the CD, recorded in an Italian Roman-era open amphitheater under the stars, and the experience evolves from this exotic moment.

The artists write: "While our experience reached a level of spontaneous interaction in the studio, it was an entirely different dimension when performing live on stage at a specific moment in time. It was as if we were communicating with each other blindfolded, focusing entirely on the sound appearing in the moment and being exchanged back and forth while the energy of the audience and the space helped feed the process. Although we briefly discussed the structure of each concert, the magic simply came alive when we took the live performance map outside any form of logical preparation, relying on our mutual passion and instinct for traveling in the soundcurrent."

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Dreamlike/ambient Classical Music ?
« on: December 19, 2008, 03:26:37 PM »
Yes, I have been watching some of Aleksandr Sokurov's films this week, the music in them is very good, it is classical music like nocturnes but it has been slowed down and reverb have been added. It all produce a more dreamlike and ambient sounding music. I wonder is there any artist that does this ? That does either compose own music or remix music...

An example from "Elegy of a Voyage" 108 mb/8 minutes

http://www.gigasize.com/get.php?d=2fym2hjgs3b

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Everything and Nothing / Natural Hallucinogens without drugs
« on: December 11, 2008, 10:12:00 PM »
This one actually works, looks like the whole space fabric is bending inwards:)
If you have more similar to share which produce other hallucinations please share.


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Everything and Nothing / Encounters at the End of the World
« on: December 09, 2008, 11:02:29 PM »
If you dream away from this life/world, I recommend this film...
The beautiful visuals and landscapes gives an deeply meditative experience, which evokes introspective thoughts inside your mind.

You can read more about it and see photos here,
http://encountersfilm.com

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Everything and Nothing / Tinnitus
« on: December 08, 2008, 04:13:50 PM »
So I guess I am not alone to have Tinnitus on this forum ?

I got mine year 2003, when the earplug in the left ear did pop out during a death metal concert.
It was loud as fuck and I did stand just in front of the speaker, I did try cover my ears as good as I could, but after the break in the middle, I did try to go back of the concert hall, cause I thought it was maybe lower volume ?
I did also look around me, a lot of people did not have ear plugs so I thought I was "safe" so for like 30 minutes or so I did not cover the ears with my hands... well worst misstake in my life probably cause even today I have Tinnitus, even though I must say it has improved a lot. The first 3 weeks after the concert I did hear VERY bad on the left ear, I was scared I never would hear good again. Luckily the left ear did recover I now hear good again, but I still got Tinnitus. The Tinnitus level does vary a lot for me, I play music in headphones many hours per day, some days maybe up to 15 hours... however during periods I do not listen to much music the Tinnitus is less...so yeah I guess I should be more careful...

unfortunately my amplifier for the speakers has been broke now for some months and can't afford to buy a new one...so I have only been able to use headphones...It is quite obvious it is more straining for the ears to play with headphones cause of higher sound pressure to the ears...

The biggest problem for me is that I got a kind of unbalance between L/R ear, it is mostly noticeable in headphones, not so much when you listen in speakers luckily...I hear difference mainly in extreme high range, and low range... even though I got Tinnitus in left ear I still feel I hear better in this ear, but I am also more sensitive in the left ear to high volume etc...

Also.. Tinnitus was one of the reason that got me into Ambient music to begin with...




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Everything and Nothing / How the CD format compromise the music
« on: December 05, 2008, 05:38:42 AM »
It seems to be very common the ambient genre, to fill the cd to exactly the 80 minute mark, involuntary...it is so obvious that the music want's to continue longer..I find it tragic that the music is not allowed to be as what it want to be...

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / David Parsons - Earthlight (2008)
« on: December 03, 2008, 04:40:45 PM »
Now available through http://steveroach.com/store/store.php?item=412

"Over his past few releases, New Zealand veteran electronic composer David Parsons has deliberately been refining his electronic composition approach and overall sound sense, drawing from a keen awareness of tone and nuance and a sense of inner and outer spaces in balance. This awareness has developed over many years from both pure electronic music explorations and a deep connection to the music of south Asia. Having traveled extensively through India, Thailand, Indonesia and beyond, recording the indigenous music from these cultures, these diverse recordings are featured on the Celestial Harmonies label. These years of experience and the understanding drawn from these acoustic realms has infused EARTHLIGHT in a deep and powerful way."

"The pieces featured on EARTHLIGHT are purely synthesizer-based, with sounds created from the ground up, from the inside out. The pieces were recorded in nearly real-time; the direct emotions and artistry were not lost in a realm of too many choices. The release features David's arching, cloud-like atmospheres combined with subtle percolating electronic percussion and buoyant rhythmic patterns. The delicate quality stands out, blending perfectly with the atmospherics. This release stands amoung my favorite releases this year, and is highly recommended." review by Steve Roach

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Naked City
« on: December 01, 2008, 07:29:46 PM »
Do anybody else likes this project by John Zorn. Definitely the most CRAZY schizo avantgarde-Jazz I have heard.

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Everything and Nothing / Musical visualization
« on: November 23, 2008, 11:14:03 AM »
I think most of us listen to music must of the time in front of the computer, personally I find it very hard to enjoy the music when reading or chatting with people simultaneously , and stare into the wall is not so interesting either, is there some kind visualization that will visualize the music in an meaningful way, and I am not talking about windows media player, there must be something better.

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