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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach Etheric Imprints
« on: July 19, 2015, 08:57:31 PM »
Personally I like the 2 last track best... The first track is ok.. track number 2 is not good..even though the fucked up and detuned and disharmonic atmosphere can be interesting.. but it is not done so well in this track.. and does not fit on the album..

Track number 3 Holding Light is the best on the album it has the most emotional content.

Otherwise I agree.. I like that he tries out different things..

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: May 13, 2015, 04:10:24 PM »
Loren Nerell - Taksu

I myself think RedShift and Free system projekt have the best sequencers in this style of music And of course Klaus schulze (before he started to use software based seqencers)

Soundcloud link is embeded in the link below.

Sounds really good!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Robert Rich - Filaments
« on: May 06, 2015, 04:31:44 PM »
This albums reminds me more of the "live archive series".. it is very medocire in all aspects.. the sound are petty boring.. and sonics are not on par with his older albums, some people compared to Electric ladder,I still that album is soo much more better.

What Filaments is missing is any type of atmosphere, this músic fails for me to paint any mental pictures besides in certain moments, but then the other problem is the short length of the songs, which make the album too fragmented.

For me Entangled is the only memorable song from this album, the rest feels just like a medocre soup something you would hear on any improvised live concert from robert rich.

Anyway, I am still grateful Robert Rich is producing albums, I which He would have a bigger flow of releases.
I did like his nest release. His sominum release while appreciated it was a big disappointment.
Seem like ambient indeed was better before then it is these days.

Steve roach can do a lot more better sequencers then this, this album took how many years to create ?
It was boring  Just compare any of the songs to this song ? the difference between this song and the songs on the albums is this have this instant "timeless" quality to it..the difference is so big..  Steve roach has still some of the best sequencer stuff.. and when I listen to his discography i actually which he did do more sequncer based stuff.. he have kind of gotten away from that stuff lately.

I do not know, I am glad steve roach is producing music but I do not feel he have the same joy any more,
He looks more old and depressing now days, how is his health now really ? he does not look too well to be honest.
Maybe he should focus more on getting better health which gives him more health and energy, his music sound more vibrant before more cold now days.
In other worlds I think his health reflects in the music.

And I still think his productions in his old studio sound a lot better then they do today.
I have never been to his studio but I can hear big changes have been made..

Despite what I always looking forward to check out steve roach new albums it is always exciting to listen,  and his library of music can never get too big, cause I get tire of listening to the same albums over and over so it is nice to get new additions constantly..

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Camel Audio stopped business
« on: January 10, 2015, 02:53:22 PM »
rumours suggest they have been being sold to another "big company" it would make sense..because of the lack of information on the website.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Camel Audio stopped business
« on: January 10, 2015, 02:23:05 PM »
Very sad and very surprising news! Alchemy is pretty much my primary synth for Ambient music!
Very bad news.. I had hi hopes they would release something big any time soon.. like a new version of Alchemy...
There is really no other synth to fill their spot to be honest..

I wonder what was the reason for them to lay down camel audio ?
No info on the website either... did they not pay taxes or what ?

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Interstellar
« on: November 09, 2014, 01:52:50 PM »
I have only seen the trailer..but I am pretty sure it is very good..

drone on...  I can answer the Vir Unis question as he's an old friend (since teens).  He's semi-active on Facebook - and is about to release The Book of Mutations 2 after a long break from releasing ambient.

Posted Oct 22 by John / Vir:  "This a 20+ minute preview of an upcoming Vir Unis album on AtmoWorks. I plan to work with some very talented and creative musicians on this throughout this Autumn and Winter. It's s continuation of Book of Mutations, which can be purchased at "

Listen at:

Looking forward to new Vir Unis album, while his latelest album has not been so good..

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New David Sylvian, Steve Roach
« on: November 09, 2014, 01:48:54 PM »
the new steve roach album is really good.. Ancestors circle

24 bit is definitely no placebo effect.. It is always frustrating to have to down sample to 16 bit.. When you  hear such drastic difference.. But it does also matter what music..  But especially with ambient music I hear a difference..  If I buy an digital flac album I would easily choose the 24 bit if there was a choice.

Many blind tests regarding 16 vs 24 bit have proved that peopled can´t hear a difference. In any case, when it comes to CD anything has to go down to 16 bit anyway. To hear a difference especially (!) in ambient music is a huge myth for me. When it come to classical music with a lot (!) of dynamics there is a reason for this higher bit/sample rate rate, but when when it comes to Ambient I don´t know any music in this genre using the full dynamic making it worth at all to for the additional headroom nor a higher sampling rate.

Are people really be able to hear a difference between 192kbit and 320kbit mp3?   ;D

But OK, it´s usual that those believers feel better if they can say they feel have the tools or special gear (the price for the additional investment in those cases needs an explanation too) or rendering options. I´m pretty sure, if I would offer 2 unnamed files for a blind testing concerning this issue, those people would avoid to be part of that test.

Two unnamed files created to prove your point or two unnamed files to show there is a difference.  ?
Tests can be designed with different goals. 
I myself I hear a difference and I know a lot of other people to do,  you need sensitive equipment and ears and know what you are looking for.  In heavy high energy distortion  guitar I think the 16 bit have harsher edges to me. 

I think it is funny say  classical music has more complex audio information then in ambient music.
Ambient can be as complex as audibly possible. Classical music in general consider very lofi in comparison to modern music.  Adding max amounts of transients is usually the best way to find differences in 24 bit or 16 bit  or different sample rates.  On all my recordings in my signal chain I always use audio processors to maximize transients,  especially with ambient there is nothing worse then ambient where all transients are drown into reverb tails,  the transients bring out all details and making complex audio harmonics.  Yeah so the amount  of transient information is probably one thing that matter,  without the complex audio information it might be possible there is no difference in sonic experience in resolution or sample rates

I do not mind Klaus shulze releases but it his last album was very bad.. He have become lazy sounds like he is using only omnisphere presets now days.. But I follow the Berlin school genre.. But I think it is Mario schönwalder and Co that have most to offer to the Berlin school genre now.
The free system projekt i wish did release more was many years ago now.  Same with pollard.

24 bit is definitely no placebo effect.. It is always frustrating to have to down sample to 16 bit.. When you  hear such drastic difference.. But it does also matter what music..  But especially with ambient music I hear a difference..  If I buy an digital flac album I would easily choose the 24 bit if there was a choice.

I miss Thom Brennan, I hope he start to release music again.
I also miss steve roach more steady flow of releases, considering he is lives in an old age he should probably
release as much as he can while he can. His last releases is going towards right direction.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Seaboard Piano
« on: October 23, 2014, 12:04:25 PM »
good idea..but I wish I could have the same technology but in standard keyboad, I have always been wanting to wiggle the keys just like it was string to do vibratos..

This is a pretty well known article, on studio forums, there is usually two parties, one for and one against bitrates.
If this article was made so that the opposite side could respond to each argument in the article I am sure the opposite side would
sound just  reasonable.  we do choose what HiFi philosophies  to believe of course as I said there will always be different parties.

I think it is a mistake to generalize this, for me it depends on more WHAT you use this high sample rate for,  and also what DAC design is used, to say that high sample rates is useless for all designs ,  the main argument with higher sample rate is to reduce processing in the DAC,  to reduce the need for upsampling in the interpolator component in the DAC, the DACs today are working in 5 bit audio, which needs  audio that comes into the DAC needs to be upsampled up to 30 times of the audio you feed the DAC with.  In a perfect world you would not need any upsampling within the DAC, but all DACs today need it (besides DSD format DACs) since the DAC chips today is working in 5 bit audio. So the argument of high sample rate seem to be mostly about the internal processing and not about the actual human/physical abilities to hear the difference of the high sample rate, it is more about internal signal processing, and how the DAC is responding to a higher sample rate and having a less need for upsampling,

In the real world however,  problems such as CPU power is a bigger problem, I am still using 44khz myself because of limited CPU power, and this problem will most likely remain for a long time too, because intel has a slow progression and within the small steps of cpu power progression software developers are also fast to respond with more cpu hungry plugins, so I do not seem myself going over to 96k in the next 5 years to be honest. The other problem is that all music today is downsampled to 44khz anyway,  even though lossless services do exist they are still using the CD format often, 16bit/44khz. To record something in high sample rate  and down sample it later just seem like a big hassle for nothing.

High sample rate is simply something for the future,  from a sonic quality perspective there is only benefits,  but the drawbacks with higher sample rate are bigger,   cpu power is one of them, but also file size and also in the age of audio streaming the network bandwidth, which drains much battery from people with mobile devices etc,   we need more headroom in both processing power in computers, network speeds and also power in mobile devices until we are mature to change to a higher sample rate standard.  I do hope however that more music is released in higher bit resolution/sample rate.  I myself find always that when I downsample my projects to 16 bit there is a big difference in sound quality,  and from wav to mp3 is even omre noticeable, I would not have heard the difference before, but with the more sensitive equipment i hear now it is more obvious,  with that said.. 99% of the music I listen to is MP3,  but the reason why is because of the problems I mentioned earlier,  file size is a one of them, and availability is another, to have a big archive of flac music takes just a lot of space.. but it is only when you compare the mp3 and flac version side by side you know what you are missing.. Spotify shold be illegal, they are the biggest threat to music, they are like a weapon of mass destruction against music, their OGG music sounds just terrible..destroys all what makes music good.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 12, 2014, 12:41:54 PM »

OM Gethsemane

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach - Bloodmoon Rising
« on: October 12, 2014, 07:10:55 AM »
really good work steve roach.
I have had fever and been sick in my stomach.. not able to eat,drink or go up from bed..
For this I found this album was really good, my head felt so "heavy" so this music did match good..
I am still sick..there is nothing worse.

I did a long extensive research on the matter about 1 year ago,  my conclusion was that for me in my situation it was more priority to get grounded power.
Another consensus did seem to be that a lot of these cheaper products can do more harm then good, but in extreme situations where the power is very dirty and it really affects your gear they can be good. But a lot of the cheaper products on the market will actually make the sound quality worse, the filters can be destructive to transients.  I would say a cheaper box might be more better in use on live gigs then in a private budget studio. If you have grounded power in your house it should be safe, and no need for a cheap furman box.

If you really want to make a good difference there seemed to be no shortcuts, the balanced Furman boxes was still on top of the list for most people, but as Julio mentioned they are very expensive, and might not be the first gear you "want" to buy, for a private studio.  But the longer the studio grow and the more expensive gear you get you come to a point where the Balanced furman box might not be a big cost in percentage of the general gear.

Another point to consider when reading discussions on other forums about this object.. it is really hard to find a consensus  the opinions are very very individual, every person seem to have a totally different view on the subject, and the discussions gets quickly in to really hardcore scientific discussion which only a real electrician can really understand fully.  I have been recommended isolation transformers if you use non grounded power, to create it s own "grounded power" for the gear, but then there is also a lot of people who said it is useless bla bla bla

My reserach did anyway end up with not investing in any cheap furman box..
in a longer pespective it might be wise to invest in some of the balanced boxes by furman, but in current studio situation
it would not make sense, since it would be too big cost considering the total value of my studio gear.

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