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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Schmidt Synthesizer
« on: March 15, 2014, 03:59:35 PM »
What incredible beauty, and what a sound..on the sound demos on youtube you can really hear how fat it sounds..

Everything is good though besides the price which is insane!
Too bad it did not have a more reasonable price tag it would had been an amazing success..
It is pretty much the analogue dream synth, digitally controlled. Both Moog and Oberheim fitlers.


http://d3lutcxw5daydx.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/field/image/Boards%20(21%20of%2024)_0.jpg[

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Schmidt%20Synthesizer&sm=3

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yes I can agree FSP needs to release some new stuff.. but I think in the last few years Brendan Pollard and CO have released the best Berlin school in my opnion.

http://www.musiczeit.com/album.php?album=1028&Pollard+%2F+Daniel+%2F+Booth+Pollard+%2F+Daniel+%2F+Booth

this album is really the highest form of berlin school too.. very very solid.. it reach the FSP quality without question.

same with this album

http://www.musiczeit.com/album.php?album=1467&Pollard+%2F+Daniel+%2F+Booth+Volume+4

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the way back machine obviously got the old Asianova website still.. if some one is interesting to get more info

http://web.archive.org/web/20070219075650/http://radiantslab.com/asianova/frames.html

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: EQ Searching
« on: February 27, 2014, 06:25:42 PM »
not sure if the Picture loads up all the time anyway the the name of the EQ is HEQ made by waves

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OBERHEIM FVS (Four Voice)


Glad I don´t have this one…you can create this sound with most freeware plugins…

Don´t understand the hype!


To my ears the difference between the software synths I have tried is so obvious that no software comes close to the real deal of analogue synths.
The Oberheim I tried I still consider to be double as fat sounding as any software synth I have tried, but I mange to get similar results with "studio tricks" and effects, but still not at much interesting harmonic content to work with because of the digital OSCs.

Oberheim 4 Voice

Tom Oberheim SEM Frequency Modulation Noodles

Delayed cry for help: Oberheim SEM-PRO & Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man

Oberheim Live on the I-5


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OBERHEIM FVS (Four Voice)

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Yeah, but it's not really a matrix 12 right? ;)

I know a very good technician here, he fixed the 4 voice version, I'm not scared when it comes to vintage, especially with his backup.

What in life is not a time bomb, eh?

I wouldn't buy that matrix 12 too, I haven't the right skills yet, but IMO cooling the lust with other synths/substitutes is not the way to go, if you want the matrix or the xpander then grab the matrix or the xpander :) the more you spend on other stuff the more further away you will be from the original goal (use this method for other stuff in life) ahaha

My two cents.


The 2 voice and 4 voice synths are still in production.



This is the one he repaired:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/oberheim/4voice.php

Hey I'm just quoting what you said:


I am more interested in how it compare with Oberheim Xpander for instance.



My conclusion is that none of your options compare to an xpander or matrix 12 and that's the whole point of this discussion.


I am only intereted in the new PRO and digitally controlled versions, that is the old one.

Xpander was just one example since it fits well for ambient music, the SEM series is not as much used for some reason,
but from what I have been hearing about it it sounds very good...

I have no problem that it sounds different the xpander or matrix it is not like they are some ultimate benchmark they just sound different..
Anyway I will never buy xpander or matrix again, as I said..the older they get you more likely is it that they break down.. in my country it is not many people who can repair it if any.. and it would be expensive. the New Sem series I think will not break down any time soon..they seem rigid.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Regarding the Lost Island
« on: February 27, 2014, 04:08:09 AM »
That was a great series. My wife and I would spend hours speculating about the origins/meaning of the Smoke Monsters. Lost was a bit incoherent in from a big picture point of view, but I loved the character development, the way the pre-island stories would evolve into island stories, and the mystery of the island, the others, etc. I hope another series comes along that inspires the same sense of awe and immersion.

Yeah I miss this time, cause the series was a big part of my consciousness in that time...  I wish the island did exist in real as in the series, then I would love to go there for sure  to experience it.

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Yeah, but it's not really a matrix 12 right? ;)

I know a very good technician here, he fixed the 4 voice version, I'm not scared when it comes to vintage, especially with his backup.

What in life is not a time bomb, eh?

I wouldn't buy that matrix 12 too, I haven't the right skills yet, but IMO cooling the lust with other synths/substitutes is not the way to go, if you want the matrix or the xpander then grab the matrix or the xpander :) the more you spend on other stuff the more further away you will be from the original goal (use this method for other stuff in life) ahaha

My two cents.

The 2 voice and 4 voice synths are still in production.    After have been owning the Xpnader for the while I would be more intersted in the new 2 voice synth.. I guess the 4 voice is too expensive..  But I think for drone music this is perfect..

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Veiled threat I do have, great stuff.  Other albums are very hard to find anywhere.


Yes, that is true,  that is very unfortunate.. it is a very rare and cosmic experience to listen to them in headphones..
it is hard to legally get your hands of these albums, I have been ripped of two times trying to buy them legally,  first time I bought them directly from Discorporeality , I was a huge Asianova fan at the time, but it did turn out, that Ure thrall's companion that did took the orders did rip him of as well since this person only took the payments but never send any cds.  I bought a big numbers of cds plus one dvd, but yeah I never got any cds and Ure did never care to compensate me.. and now it is too many years ago to care about it.

Second time I bought the from Drone records, the album was soo scratchy that they where unable to be played, also the actualy music did not sound the same as the Flac files I had of the album something has been mixed up..I gave them away for free to a friend..

I know no legal alternative to download or stream the 6 CD set  "TURNING THE BLACK SKIES BLUE AGAIN"

I have contact with Ure on Soulseek he did lastly inform me that a new Asianova release is in it's final stages.

There is more sound samples here

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=56895

EDIT: Regarding Drone records, it was soo many years ago.. it is possible that I did not end up paying full price for the cds cause of their condition.
or if I did pay for them at all.. I can't honestly do not remember was so many years ago... but since I am not sure I should not bash the Drone records label..

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Here's one for you:

http://www.rlmusic.co.uk/rlm3/oberheim-matrix-12/

The price of a car.




Yeah I like Steve Roach a lot.

I have a classic Lexicon PCM-70 in mint condition, it was a great deal. I want to use this reverb unit with an analog synth, I'm still looking for one too, because all my stuff is digital, but unlike you I don't have a problem with digital, so I'm just looking for an analog to complement my setup.


I like both digital and analogue, I think always that hybrid is the best, to get both of best worlds..
 Would love to try the Analogue keys with my effects and setup..I know it will sound totally different from the sound demos..

And regarding Xpander and Matrix 12.. the Matrix 12 is supposed to sound much fatter then the xpander..but the matrix 12 is impossible to find almost.. and if you find it it is always a risky investment since must of these units are living on overtime..  Loren Nerell know this better but I know the PSU is breaking down on many of the units..stay away from the Japanese models they have a higher fail rate.



Thanks but I think I will pass :)

For that amount of money you can buy so much fun.



I think just this one is about of half of that price.

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Yeah I like Steve Roach a lot.

I have a classic Lexicon PCM-70 in mint condition, it was a great deal. I want to use this reverb unit with an analog synth, I'm still looking for one too, because all my stuff is digital, but unlike you I don't have a problem with digital, so I'm just looking for an analog to complement my setup.

I like both digital and analogue, I think always that hybrid is the best, to get both of best worlds..
 Would love to try the Analogue keys with my effects and setup..I know it will sound totally different from the sound demos..

And regarding Xpander and Matrix 12.. the Matrix 12 is supposed to sound much fatter then the xpander..but the matrix 12 is impossible to find almost.. and if you find it it is always a risky investment since must of these units are living on overtime..  Loren Nerell know this better but I know the PSU is breaking down on many of the units..stay away from the Japanese models they have a higher fail rate.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Reverb Plugin Sound Demos
« on: February 26, 2014, 08:18:13 AM »
http://www.ariescode.com/index.php

another reverb you can try just for fun.. as an lexicon user i think this reverb is on the same level honestly.

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So a sub 37 with reverb will sound cool.

Moog is about the only synth that sound good without effects.

I have used Xpander myself, without effects it sounds nothing special it is with effects it starts to shine in my opinion.
While with software synths it is mostly the "polish the turd principle" while the xpander you had a great foundation to work with from the start..
So yeah an analogue synt really helps... especially for this type of drone music since the analgo sounds more organic and alive naturally.

Since you are so into the Oberheims I assume you are into Steve Roach like me ?
A big part of his sounds is because of the Lexicon reverbs.

I am not saying that the Elektron is better then Xpander but I know enough that demos like this do not say anything for me personally, it is when you turn of all effects introduce professional pro audio effects and audio tools that you can start to explore the sonic possibilities. Since it is analogue I am sure it will beat most of what exist in the software land.  I basically sold my Xpander because of the Lush 101 synth plugin, did give me a quite satisfied sound for the moment, but I also sold it cause it felt like a ticking bomb that could break down any moment and a lot of money would go into waste... so I am glad to see new true analogue synths like this being released in 2014 where all is going digital.. I hope we will see more of that.. Cause I really want to invest in an analogue synth..

I have been thinking about the sub 37 also... but I want to some other synth also that is not a moog. I have also been thinking about Access virus since that seem to be what all people talk about.. but it is not an analogue synth..if the elektron synth goes down little bit I will consider it.. the alternative is to buy an used synth...



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This rocks:

http://youtu.be/grePcW-z3VU


Nice video... even though the reverbs represent 75% of the sound here...
I have owned the Xpander too.it is a good synth... but you can come close with other synths too trust me. Especially for ambient stuff which rely a lot on reverb .and especially analogue synths..they have more magic....

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Yeah, it's hard to compare those sounds with an xpander. Xpander + Matrix 12 are the f... holy grail of synths for ambient.

My two cents.

with the right effects it gets easier for sure..as I said it is hard to come to any conclusion when they use the internal effects since they leave a very strong finger print...would love to hear it with lexicon reverbs.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: EQ Searching
« on: February 25, 2014, 03:03:31 PM »
I am pretty sure you mean the SurferEQ.


Nope, as i said there was a visual keyboard appearing in the plugin


sorry I did read too quickly.. anyway the "note" part..I guess the SurferEQ is for..

I am not sure which one you mean then..

maybe this one..


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obviously this problem is kind of a common problem... for all analogue equipment, the problem with oxidation or lack of use, even with expensive Neve equipment if you do not use the knobs etc.. you will eventually get the problem..  yeah.. you always learn new things..I have certainly not thought about the oxidation factor before..sounded kind of strange first but seem to be a kind of common problem..
especially in countries with unstable climate  which goes from warm to cold fast or air with high humidity.

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