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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Antelope Audio Zen
« on: March 23, 2014, 03:50:11 PM »
As an eclipse user I can't really say I was very happen when I saw the Zen and also the price, it seems to me that they are giving away a lot of their technology very cheap in this box. Of course it is good for all others though.

Shit, you paid 5k for the eclipse box... I would be pissed  :D

I guess that is the American price, as usual it is more expensive in EU for niche products,
I paid about 5400 Dollars but the new price in sweden is 8865 dollars, so I still got a very good deal because of the Black Friday sale.
about 40% discount, so I could simply not resist that price, otherwise I have probably have bought some of the PRISM devices.

Yes of course I am not very happy that they start giving away their technology so much cheaper.
But Eclipse is still their flagship and best sounding interface according to themselves.

but yeah Zen audio seem to have an extreme good value which crushes the competition in the budget market.

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thanks for the advices..I will check them out.

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yes I have heard them of course...maybe Gent is their best albums overall I do not know.. but I remember one of the songs was the best I have heard...  it was called "GENT 4" of the best sequencers ever in that song.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Antelope Audio Zen
« on: March 22, 2014, 06:27:14 AM »
I think it is an amazing value for the price.
I am an Antelope Eclipse user, and the Zen have borrowed a lot of the technology from the Eclipse.
The same monitor controller, and the same Headphone amp,  the Eclipse is based on the Trinity Clock
while the Zen is based on the older OCX clock.

Yeah very aggressive pricing. Would be interesting to see how it compare with Prism  Titan which is a similar product.

As an eclipse user I can't really say I was very happen when I saw the Zen and also the price, it seems to me that they are giving away a lot of their technology very cheap in this box. Of course it is good for all others though. 

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Schmidt Synthesizer
« on: March 19, 2014, 09:02:08 AM »
WNAMM13:Here Comes The Schmidt Polysynth - Video

Wow.....the first video I watched did not do that much for me, but once I understood the story in this video it really is an achievement. He continued where the Oberheim Matrix 12 stopped.  @ $30k its beyond most but I recall the New England Digital Synclaviar was about $50,000 in 1984 depending on the model.

The obie /moog sounds are very good but from a few reclusive patches I heard this really excels at the experimental.  I suppose you could say that is the same as the Matrix 12, great at bread & butter analog but really spreads its wings with serious modulation which is what its all about.

Thanks Immersion


From what I  understand the synth is not released on the market yet, the Schmidt  synthesier will be released this summer, only 3 Schmidt's exist today, so I expect with time the price will drop once they get the production running... if the price is right it will take over the world for sure...

this synth have 175 knobs!

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I have come to the conclusion most of the ambient music I like most have e-bowed guitars...
Feel free to recommend me albums with a lot of e-bow..

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I can really recommend these two albums, they are among my favourite ambient albums. Both are mesmerizing 5 star albums.
Psychedelic ambient music.

A few mp3 samples can be streamed and downloaded here!!!
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=57587





http://www.discogs.com/Ure-Thrall-The-Bone-Tree-Soundtracks-Volume-Two-Infinitree/release/366097

http://www.discogs.com/U-R-I-The-Bone-Tree-Soundtracks-Volume-One/release/365795

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Schmidt Synthesizer
« on: March 15, 2014, 03:59:35 PM »
What incredible beauty, and what a sound..on the sound demos on youtube you can really hear how fat it sounds..

Everything is good though besides the price which is insane!
Too bad it did not have a more reasonable price tag it would had been an amazing success..
It is pretty much the analogue dream synth, digitally controlled. Both Moog and Oberheim fitlers.


http://d3lutcxw5daydx.cloudfront.net/sites/default/files/field/image/Boards%20(21%20of%2024)_0.jpg[

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Schmidt%20Synthesizer&sm=3

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yes I can agree FSP needs to release some new stuff.. but I think in the last few years Brendan Pollard and CO have released the best Berlin school in my opnion.

http://www.musiczeit.com/album.php?album=1028&Pollard+%2F+Daniel+%2F+Booth+Pollard+%2F+Daniel+%2F+Booth

this album is really the highest form of berlin school too.. very very solid.. it reach the FSP quality without question.

same with this album

http://www.musiczeit.com/album.php?album=1467&Pollard+%2F+Daniel+%2F+Booth+Volume+4

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the way back machine obviously got the old Asianova website still.. if some one is interesting to get more info

http://web.archive.org/web/20070219075650/http://radiantslab.com/asianova/frames.html

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: EQ Searching
« on: February 27, 2014, 06:25:42 PM »
not sure if the Picture loads up all the time anyway the the name of the EQ is HEQ made by waves

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OBERHEIM FVS (Four Voice)


Glad I don´t have this one…you can create this sound with most freeware plugins…

Don´t understand the hype!


To my ears the difference between the software synths I have tried is so obvious that no software comes close to the real deal of analogue synths.
The Oberheim I tried I still consider to be double as fat sounding as any software synth I have tried, but I mange to get similar results with "studio tricks" and effects, but still not at much interesting harmonic content to work with because of the digital OSCs.

Oberheim 4 Voice

Tom Oberheim SEM Frequency Modulation Noodles

Delayed cry for help: Oberheim SEM-PRO & Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man

Oberheim Live on the I-5


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OBERHEIM FVS (Four Voice)

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Yeah, but it's not really a matrix 12 right? ;)

I know a very good technician here, he fixed the 4 voice version, I'm not scared when it comes to vintage, especially with his backup.

What in life is not a time bomb, eh?

I wouldn't buy that matrix 12 too, I haven't the right skills yet, but IMO cooling the lust with other synths/substitutes is not the way to go, if you want the matrix or the xpander then grab the matrix or the xpander :) the more you spend on other stuff the more further away you will be from the original goal (use this method for other stuff in life) ahaha

My two cents.


The 2 voice and 4 voice synths are still in production.



This is the one he repaired:

http://www.vintagesynth.com/oberheim/4voice.php

Hey I'm just quoting what you said:


I am more interested in how it compare with Oberheim Xpander for instance.



My conclusion is that none of your options compare to an xpander or matrix 12 and that's the whole point of this discussion.


I am only intereted in the new PRO and digitally controlled versions, that is the old one.

Xpander was just one example since it fits well for ambient music, the SEM series is not as much used for some reason,
but from what I have been hearing about it it sounds very good...

I have no problem that it sounds different the xpander or matrix it is not like they are some ultimate benchmark they just sound different..
Anyway I will never buy xpander or matrix again, as I said..the older they get you more likely is it that they break down.. in my country it is not many people who can repair it if any.. and it would be expensive. the New Sem series I think will not break down any time soon..they seem rigid.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Regarding the Lost Island
« on: February 27, 2014, 04:08:09 AM »
That was a great series. My wife and I would spend hours speculating about the origins/meaning of the Smoke Monsters. Lost was a bit incoherent in from a big picture point of view, but I loved the character development, the way the pre-island stories would evolve into island stories, and the mystery of the island, the others, etc. I hope another series comes along that inspires the same sense of awe and immersion.

Yeah I miss this time, cause the series was a big part of my consciousness in that time...  I wish the island did exist in real as in the series, then I would love to go there for sure  to experience it.

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Yeah, but it's not really a matrix 12 right? ;)

I know a very good technician here, he fixed the 4 voice version, I'm not scared when it comes to vintage, especially with his backup.

What in life is not a time bomb, eh?

I wouldn't buy that matrix 12 too, I haven't the right skills yet, but IMO cooling the lust with other synths/substitutes is not the way to go, if you want the matrix or the xpander then grab the matrix or the xpander :) the more you spend on other stuff the more further away you will be from the original goal (use this method for other stuff in life) ahaha

My two cents.

The 2 voice and 4 voice synths are still in production.    After have been owning the Xpnader for the while I would be more intersted in the new 2 voice synth.. I guess the 4 voice is too expensive..  But I think for drone music this is perfect..

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Veiled threat I do have, great stuff.  Other albums are very hard to find anywhere.


Yes, that is true,  that is very unfortunate.. it is a very rare and cosmic experience to listen to them in headphones..
it is hard to legally get your hands of these albums, I have been ripped of two times trying to buy them legally,  first time I bought them directly from Discorporeality , I was a huge Asianova fan at the time, but it did turn out, that Ure thrall's companion that did took the orders did rip him of as well since this person only took the payments but never send any cds.  I bought a big numbers of cds plus one dvd, but yeah I never got any cds and Ure did never care to compensate me.. and now it is too many years ago to care about it.

Second time I bought the from Drone records, the album was soo scratchy that they where unable to be played, also the actualy music did not sound the same as the Flac files I had of the album something has been mixed up..I gave them away for free to a friend..

I know no legal alternative to download or stream the 6 CD set  "TURNING THE BLACK SKIES BLUE AGAIN"

I have contact with Ure on Soulseek he did lastly inform me that a new Asianova release is in it's final stages.

There is more sound samples here

http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=56895

EDIT: Regarding Drone records, it was soo many years ago.. it is possible that I did not end up paying full price for the cds cause of their condition.
or if I did pay for them at all.. I can't honestly do not remember was so many years ago... but since I am not sure I should not bash the Drone records label..

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Here's one for you:

http://www.rlmusic.co.uk/rlm3/oberheim-matrix-12/

The price of a car.




Yeah I like Steve Roach a lot.

I have a classic Lexicon PCM-70 in mint condition, it was a great deal. I want to use this reverb unit with an analog synth, I'm still looking for one too, because all my stuff is digital, but unlike you I don't have a problem with digital, so I'm just looking for an analog to complement my setup.


I like both digital and analogue, I think always that hybrid is the best, to get both of best worlds..
 Would love to try the Analogue keys with my effects and setup..I know it will sound totally different from the sound demos..

And regarding Xpander and Matrix 12.. the Matrix 12 is supposed to sound much fatter then the xpander..but the matrix 12 is impossible to find almost.. and if you find it it is always a risky investment since must of these units are living on overtime..  Loren Nerell know this better but I know the PSU is breaking down on many of the units..stay away from the Japanese models they have a higher fail rate.



Thanks but I think I will pass :)

For that amount of money you can buy so much fun.



I think just this one is about of half of that price.

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