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I forgot to tell you all, the problem has been solved, I did not need to send it back luckily.
I am still angry at trident and PMI for putting me in the situation, cause PMI told me to send it back to UK and also they would charge me per hour.. rotten.. I send the same question to the designer of the speakers "harvey" he told me that it could be "oxidation"  in the pots or the swivals. The solution was to "Try turning them back and forth rapidly" this magic trick did solve the problem... However it was not a pleasant experience.. I am out of warranty time obviously and right now I am uncertain how the "longevity"  of these speakers how many years they will hold.. cause to buy speakers in this price range is a long term experience.. I am awaiting of there is some "maintenance" tips that would help the speakers in good condition..

little bit about the contrusction of the speaker and what leads to the problem

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"That left the problem of edge diffraction from having the mids and highs on a flat baffle. That's when I came up with the idea of a rotating cylinder, but I couldn't use wires to run to the mid and high speakers; enough twisting and they'd eventually break.

That's when I came up with the "flashlight battery" solution. Run a wire to a contact at the top and bottom of the cylinder and use spring-loaded contacts to make the connections. Plus, rotating the cylinder would also clean the contacts. By placing the high crossover, and the level pots, inside the cylinder, I only needed two wires to go to it, and that worked perfectly.

Anyway, to make an even longer story shorter, that concept allowed me to use a unique set of drivers (and a design) that I would never have considered without this system approach.

There's a lot more to this design that I'm leaving out, but lemme just say I've put two years of my life into making this as perfect as I could. "

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Reverb Plugin Sound Demos
« on: February 17, 2014, 10:42:04 PM »
it is hard to do the "ultimate" test and comparison test, what we have here is basicually a comparision with different preset ,  different presets can sound completely different.  Sure certain characteristics can be found but they can also been changed with different settings.  I use mostly the the PCM Random hall I always open up the filter completely to now have the reverb to "cut" anything especially the high  frequencies, it is only then the Lexicon reverb sounds good and "open" for me atleast for ambient music..   these LP filters that seem to be present in many presets in the test , it is for me what makes them sound "cheap" and not open and clear...

From this test I can see no clear winner..I would love to try the Phoenix reverb myself.. heard good things about it, and it is "true stereo" unlike for instance the Lexicon reverb...which is it's main criticism .

Sure we all love soundcloud cause it is fast and easy to share links, but Also I would be careful to judge a test done from Soundcloud the sound quality is not representative.

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Do you get the same sound in your headphones when connected to the same source  that drives the monitors....if yes then its not the monitors.  As Loren said change the cables or change the monitors if you have some older ones around.

Also look to all the sample rates between various device...I have a feeling it could be something get restricted.  I have had issues with devices not communicating correctly that has created similar problems easily resolved.

Is this brittle distortion coming from just one or both monitors...you say one but you show both in the video

It is a real pain and frustrating because you have to do all this detective work...pull everything apart and re-patch it all and pull some hair out and maybe send it out for repairs when it could be a simple thing you over look or did not know you needed to even look....I have done just this.

Hoping for a simple fix!

The DAC sounds normal with headphones. I have also tried the different monitor outputs, and also switched right and left cable, still it is only the left monitor that sounds bad.

If it was the sample rate, it would audible in both right and left channel.

The the brittle distortion comes only from one speaker the left.

Yes it is really painful.. I hope that PMI/Trident care for their customers though, I am unable to find any information regarding warranty.

Since I do not want to void possible warranty I do not want to open up them, also I do not want to do that since I am not a certified technicians, I will most likely need to send these to a service center.   Luckily I bought them from a swedish dealer maybe they will pay all the costs I hope so..

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Sounds like a bad cable. I'd replace the cables running to the speaker first and see if that helps. Sometimes connectors go bad and sound like that. If that doesn't do it than it's probably internal, maybe your crossover is going out. Good luck, I hate it when gear dies, my Hafler amp in my studio died last month so I know the pain.

I did try that now switched right and left channel I did also swap channels on the monitor outs on the DAC problem is still there so I think we can exclude that it is the cable or the DAC.

Another friend told me it might be the filters in the speakers that have been failing.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 11, 2014, 04:33:04 PM »
yes it is expensive but not totally out of reach for a small home studio..

I just wish it had EQ knobs like a real mixer board.

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Sad day, one my HG3 Speakers suddenly got defective  :( :(
I am unable to find any thing about the warranty  :'(

I recorded a video with audio so you can hear what it sounds like, also recorded the right speakers to compare them..

http://delafil.se/key=17ce2285ab8d8b5cef7b40a5bd57de04


http://videobam.com/IWjda (video stream lower quality but no need to download)

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 11, 2014, 10:27:52 AM »


This new Midas M32 will have a price 4999 dollar as it seem it is the same price as an x32 (non compact version).

http://www.audiotechnology.com.au/wp/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Midas-M32-Front.jpg

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/attachments/new-product-alert/381593d1390501328-namm-2014-midas-m32-m32-product-shot.jpg

unbeatable price of course...might be too expensive for you still I just wanted to show you...cause it is an upcoming product soon to be released.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 10, 2014, 03:56:42 PM »
I guess this explains a lot why I had the sense that "behringer " has been "reborn"

http://www.audioprointernational.com/news/read/behringer-buys-midas-and-klark-teknik/01874

Regarding X32, the story goes that it was first a midas project... but was taken over by Behringer when they bought Midas. So it is not a true "behringer" product.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 10, 2014, 01:07:52 PM »
My main concern with second hand audio gear, is excessive wear, especially when it comes to motorized faders. I don't want to make you feel I'm a nuisance but it's an important investment for years to come, and prefer to make questions now, than to be sorry at a later time.

Yes I understand, what you mean, Behringer have had quality problems with their B control products in the past.
But in all honesty I see not much similarities with this very old B control product compared to the new product which probably was designed by completely different people and budget.  I saw some video on youtube from the factory who makes x32   they said they did a lot of quality testing with this x32 product...  but yeah you never know... you only have 3 years warranty... do you have a big need for motorised faders ?

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 10, 2014, 01:00:39 PM »
I live in Sweden but I buy a lot from Germany cause it is cheaper.

Alright I understand now, but the price difference for the yamaha and the x32 compact is only 200 dollars, considering your threshold  for me the choice would had been easy.

http://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_x_32_compact.htm

well, it exist good solutions with all in one units,  Prism audio have some good products..for instance..but they are expensive... I myself have the Antelope Eclipse, which is basically 3 products in one too..

hmm the DM 1000 doesn't that cost like 6000 EUR ? your budget suddenly changed ?

Behringer is a shit, sorry, I hate that shitty company, please don't recommend me their crap, because I had bad experiences with them in the past.

No, the budget is the same, considering second hand DM 1000 from a studio selling it here.

You was asking for budget recommendation.

Behringer have working up their reputation with their latest products I must say, to call them "shit" is not fair, for the price you pay you get a lot..  I have not claimed to be high end but it surely beat the first yamaha mixer you did mention.

It is not exactly like "yamaha" is a good company any more (for audio), they are more well known for their budget products now days. It is not like just because it is a yamaha product it is good quality.  But if you have a strong dissuasive feeling about Behringer..you probably stay away form them then...but since we are not starting to talking about second hand market totally new doors open..since you then might not need to buy budget equipment.

I can't really comment on the DM 1000, but considering the new price is about 6000 EUR one could expect it is more aimed for the pro market so you might expect it to perform better...for that used price it might be a gold find.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 10, 2014, 09:51:32 AM »
I live in Sweden but I buy a lot from Germany cause it is cheaper.

Alright I understand now, but the price difference for the yamaha and the x32 compact is only 200 dollars, considering your threshold  for me the choice would had been easy.

http://www.thomann.de/de/behringer_x_32_compact.htm

well, it exist good solutions with all in one units,  Prism audio have some good products..for instance..but they are expensive... I myself have the Antelope Eclipse, which is basically 3 products in one too..

hmm the DM 1000 doesn't that cost like 6000 EUR ? your budget suddenly changed ?


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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 10, 2014, 05:34:54 AM »
Behringer might not have the best reputation but I think they have been reborn again..it was a time when they released good products... .. and their latest products X toch and Motör controller looks very promising too..the X32 is a Midas and behringer hybrid product... and considering that the X32 looks very similar in many ways to the Midas products I think they have a very good cooperation which maybe goes beyond just the converter.  It is not in anyway that I protect Behringer in anyway, but you can't deny the immense price value of the X32.  If you just use it as a DAW controller for the motorised faders and compare it with SSL Nucleus for instance the X32 is still a very good price value.

Personally I would not use the converters in my own studio.. but if the choice is The Yamaha Mixer the X32 is probably a better choice in all regards and they have about the same price for the X32 compact version.

As I said.. if the thread creator can consider to have less channels a lot more doors will open..

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 10, 2014, 05:06:57 AM »
Quote from: Immersion


…. Behringer……. a better second hand value

 ;D ;D ;D

Better second hand value then the Yamaha yes, cause it is a newer product and also has become a very popular and successful product.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 09, 2014, 11:36:53 PM »
Thanks for your input Immersion.

I don't have high end sources, so that ssl piece of gear, is out of my budget :)

If you check my synth list, you won't see an andromeda, matrix 12 or a JB solaris.

I would pay 3k for a mixer if it was better than the yamaha 01v96i... But I didn't found one, any tips?

People mention the presonus, but IMO it's not comparable to the yamaha...

I am not sure where you live but here where I live an used xpander is about a price of an andromeda so I consider it High end.

Anyway I did look on the Yamaha mixer, it looks like the price has gone down little bit since last I checked,  I looked at http://www.thomann.de/. Well it will be hard to beat it for all the functionality you get for the price.   But you should think hard and really think if you really need all the functionality, do you really need motorized faders ?  you can get an x toch later for instance they will not cost much,  and do you really need this many channels ? are you sure you will have so many sources ?  I would prefer to pay for quality instead of quantity.

I just don't want you to buy the Yamaha to later upgrade, if you find it second hand it would be the best..and most future proof.

It is had to get a good console sound quality for the budget, not even the budget mixers of SSL is good,  the best quality you will get is for rackbased summing mixers, this will not have faders but will have knobs instead but superior sound, depnding on the amount of channels you really need you can get down in price kind of a lot.

if you cut down on the channels you might be able to hold your budget...

if you use a summing mixer you can use the Dangerous Audio Source for AD/DA and monitor controller.
This have the same audio path as the high end dangerous audio products..same DAC chips..so extremely good bang for the buck and you can use it as an USB interface in your DAW.

Warm audio have a few very good sounding budget pre amps..but again it all depends on how many channels you really need for simultaneous use. even cheaper but probably a lot better then the yamaha pre amps is the Golden Age preamps.  If you record alone on that have many sound sources you might overestimate the amount of channels you really need atleast to start with you..you can always upgrade later...

But yeah I don't know if you strongly want a mixer with faders like that and all stuff in the same unit if I would have to choose between the Yamaha and the Behringer X32 Compact I would probably have choosen the X32 it does probably have a better second hand value also if you want to upgrade later....  I guess it all depends on how anal you are with your signal chain...if you want a high number of channels it will be hard to hold that budget..only if you pay about  1000 to 2300 dollars extra, if you can cut down on the amount of channels more doors will open.  If you still want that number of channels and all functionality I am not sure I have any more ideas.

If you really want to hold your strict budget I would try to buy as much second hand as possible... there is a lot of good stuff to be find out there...






 

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Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Oblivion - 2013
« on: February 09, 2014, 06:41:18 PM »
I did love Oblivion very good sci fi on highest level!

I saw the movie called "Gravity" yesterday and I was just equally impressed with that one. 

Europa report was nice Sci FI to, and Last days on Mars seem nice have not watched it yet.

The movie called "moon" from 2009 I really recommend also.

I

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yes I tried to install GTA 2 on windows 8 did not work well... I Guess games in particular is a problem

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 08, 2014, 09:02:02 PM »
also, what kind of pre amps are you planing to use both your mics and the xpander needs a pre amp.
Also are you sure about the xpander have you try it or do you own it already ?
sorry if I have not been reading the whole thread...I had the Xpander for a while  I decided to sell it.
It is not the the first thing I would spend the money.. in a new studio.

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I think I have been lucky I have had no compatibility problems so far..

But when I upgraded to windows 8.1 then my AMD graphic card drivers did not work.. but there exist a workaround...

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 08, 2014, 07:09:01 PM »
Would you care to share the 'better' advice here ?, it may be of some use to someone else.

Sure:

Synths to complement existing ones:

Wavetable:

Waldorf Q
Waldorf XT

Analog:

Moog Sub 37
Oberheim Xpander

Recording:

Yamaha 01v96i digital mixer/audio interface/daw control

Monitors:

Neumann KH 120

Headphones:

Beyerdynamic DT-770 Pro 32 Ohm

FX:

Eventide Eclipse or Valhalla Plugins

Studio Microphone:

Shure SM57

Field Recording:

Roland R-26

Sennheiser MKH 416-P48U3

Daw:

Cubase AI (free license with yamaha 01v96i) or Protools


You seem to have a quite big budget.
From what I have heard the Eventide Eclipse does not come close to the H8000FW.
The price point is very tempting but the sound quality is not nearly as good and not as good converters which probably is the main reason.
Do not believe the marketing on this one, all pros who compare with the H8000FW says the same really..

Anyway try it out, I am sure you can find it cheap used somewhere if you are not happy with it there is plenty of other alternatives..

I have not heard the DT770, but I would not recommend for instance my DT880 for ambient, if they have similar problem with the high frequencies.  I am on the hunt for new headphones myself..but it is hard.. to find the perfect phones..

I think it is about personal preference, and how pure you want your sound chain, personally mixing high end gear with budget mixers I would be careful about, I have heard good things about the Yamaha 01v96i  great bang for the buck and motorized faders etc.. are you going to use it only as a digital mixer ?

I understand you are going to use the Yamaha 01v96i as your monitor controller also, this is a very important part of the chain,  different monitor controllers can make speakers sounds like new speakers as it did for me when switching from Dangerous audio Source to Antelope Audio Eclipse so yeah..  please consider that, try to think long term.

You might want to look into the new SSL Sigma digitally controlled analogue mixer and monitor controller.
It cost slightly more then your Yamaha but it is worth the money for sure, this is maybe one of the first time you can get a mixer with the sound of an high end console in this price range.

The whole idea with this, it is an analogue mixer inside of this box, but you can control it through your computer in your DAW you will still change the volume the Analogue way NOT the digital way since it is an analogue summing mixer.  Well just some ideas... to consider in your sound chain... since you want to use a mixer...  You can buy for instance the upcoming Behringer X-toch or X -Touch compact with motorized faders and to control the Sigma through midi, you will now have the sound of en Expensive SSL console for not much more then what you would pay for the Yamaha mixer plus a probably a a lot better monitor controller and monitor output.

Well so many things to consider... so many solutions ... I just giving you some ideas...





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well we are talking about 10%, but it does vary in some regards they perform equal. For audio Transcode windows 8 is faster. Boot times is a lot more faster of course. On an old laptop it can be a big deal for instance...

The "noticeably faster" parts are maybe not shown in benchmarks but it is mostly because the GUI is GPU accelerated in windows 8 to me it makes the whole interface more snappy..

So yeah despite Metro I think..there is good reasons to upgrade to windows 8.

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