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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: What synths did O÷phoi used?
« on: May 16, 2014, 12:57:15 PM »
:) All has been said!

Just one point: For a better understanding of my last post, it may be helpful to check all your post previously made here. Remember, Google will not forget  ;)

Greetings,
Tomas

yes you are right all has been said many times. We obviously have totally different perspectives. It is fine by me honestly. What I do not like is that you interfere in with other methods, I find it disrespectful, I have respect for all methods, I think your post about Oophoi was disrespectful since you criticize his artistic process and methodology.
I strongly believe there is no right and wrong methodology so I do not like your "macho" attitude about it, it shows disrespect to other artists.  All artists use their own methodology and creative process  I think it is low by you to disrespect other artists methods and creative process.  If Gigi was alive I doubt you posted such post, but I think it is even more low to post it now. He might not be a technical mastermind or pop producer but he was a sonic painter mastermind.


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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: What synths did O÷phoi used?
« on: May 16, 2014, 12:25:18 PM »
Quote from: Ekstasis

I do not find the the "technical perspective" is valid, it is the music and it's energies that count not the process he used or he if he did use a non correct (if that exist) technical method.

Hearing this from the person who┤s praising here all the time "clear chain", "best sound quality", "best converters", "clean reverb tail" etc makes it a bit funny for me  ;D

Greetings,
Tomas

So you really care about the process when you put on your headphones and listen to the music ?
it is the final output that matters not the technical aspect of the creating process, there is no right and wrong for a creative artist.
I see music from a artistic perspective not from a technical point of view it is what meets my ears that is the essence.
I think you confuse the creating process with the actual listening experience.

I do not like the "schooled/trained producer"  methodology, who says that music must be as loud as possible and always to use compressors since that is what the school book tell you,  for me it should be about turn of the lights and let your ears  and non intellectual sense guide your artistic decisions. I despise all this schooled and trained producer people who are here to say what is write and wrong, they are not good artists rules are made to be broken. 

The argument of using best converters, revervbs and all other aspect of the sound chain is it will give you better control, I think I have explained the concept many times already.  I find about funny that you do not understand that simple concept.
I want to shape the sound according to my own sense, if I want very clean sound I can do that if I want very dirty and lofi sound I can get that, it gives you artistic freedom. If I was stuck with a behringer Reverb it would be a limiting factor for me, since all my music would sound like a behringer reverb, just one example, since you are an artist I should not need to tell you.
  All to its own, use whatever method and concept that fits you best and I use mine, and I strongly like Opphois methodology so full respect to him...

Think what you want about Oophois methods I think his music is superior to most ambient as I said he is in the top 5 for me..
I especially like Signals from the Great beyond...

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: What synths did O÷phoi used?
« on: May 16, 2014, 10:49:01 AM »
I really enjoy listening to his works, unfortunately I can't find any info about what gear did he used.

I see a Fizmo, Korg Z1, Waldorf Q and a Korg MS 2000 in his most famous photo and a bunch of dat machines?

I know some artists here collaborated with him, so maybe you know more than I do :)

Just want to say (as moderator), that Tomas' response seems quite relevant to this initial question.
Lets not get into personal wrangling.  Be cool   8)

If Gigi was alive and did read the post about his " technical incompetence" I am sure he would see it as a personal attack...
Anyway he have no chance to defend himself... I do not find the the "technical perspective" is valid, it is the music and it's energies that count not the process he used or he if he did use a non correct (if that exist) technical method.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Anyone here with suggestions?
« on: May 15, 2014, 03:26:07 PM »
sounds like an XLR snake cable could be a solution ?


???

Link please!

Remember I need the full stereo signal on 2 outputs parallel!

Greeting,
Tomas


http://www.mogamicable.com/category/products/gold-8_XLR-XLR.php

there you go..there exist cheaper alternatives. Klotz is good for its price usually here in EU.

This cable have in and outs which is very good in general for doing different signal chains in the studio..

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: What synths did O÷phoi used?
« on: May 15, 2014, 03:21:37 PM »
well let him rest in peace...

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Anyone here with suggestions?
« on: May 15, 2014, 02:38:20 PM »
sounds like an XLR snake cable could be a solution ?

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Anyone here with suggestions?
« on: May 15, 2014, 01:56:34 PM »
if you just need more I/Os RME BOB-32 probably more transparent then adding an additional  mixer.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Anyone here with suggestions?
« on: May 15, 2014, 11:51:10 AM »
what other I/Os do you have from soundcard/monitor controller ?
What sound card do you use ?

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: What synths did O÷phoi used?
« on: May 15, 2014, 08:30:40 AM »
Just a few personal notes based on work experiences:

I was working with him on 2 projectsůone was to contribute on a compilation and the other one was about a RMX of a track he did with Klaus Wiese.

He clearly wasn┤t up to date with technology and didm┤t had knowledge of using it correctly. As for the contribution: he finally "adjusted" the track by volume in a weird way by decreasing the volume to approximately -8 db. For the Rmx it was even more complicated as he didn┤t know how to handle file transfer properly. In both cases it ended up that he treated those files within his setup and it ended up to have them re-converted (!) on his mixing setup. I can clearly tell, that the sound of both files in the final result were heavily suffering by wrong technical treatments. Finally the Rmx was never released, as i told him that i can┤t accept the bad technically quality of his treatments he made on the original file.

For the equipment: he did own a lot of synths over the time, but from all of our discussions we had, i clearly felt it wasn┤t a pure believe concerning the options and possible sounds you can create by them..it was much more based on a "gear lust" because it was very easy for him to afford any of them.

I assume most people don┤t like to hear this, but i do believe into balancing things, when someone had the chance to have a closer insight view.

Greetings,
Tomas

I do not how this is relevant at all ?  The only thing that is relevant is his the output not the process. In my book he still rise above most ambient artists and he is in the top 5 for me.  His music had really strong qualities and abilities to dissolve your mind and conciousness and take you to inner places you never been before.

Regarding remixing the file maybe it is about taste,  For me oophoi had a more lo fi vintage sound too, maybe he did want to have that character instead of the first maybe more clean mix.   But I can understand what you mean, but sometimes it is not always what sounds the "Best" that is the best"  to dirty things up and make them sound more lo fi to create and different atmosphere can be desirable.  So using incorrect technical methods in the remixing process can be creative and good.
I use a lot of stuff in my chain which would be considered non-correct according the the school book.

I would love to have heard the final and the original mix and see which I like most, I have a feeling that it is a bout taste..
I am a big fan of Asianova but I can understand that most ambient people just think it sound bad.. for me it sounds amazing..even though very lofi.

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While I consider myself a good drum programmer and I have spent a lot of time making good programming the past, these days are gone forever, since I have realized it is impossible to get the human flow in the music with programming and it is just a big waste of time, I prefer to use drumpads.  But A lot of times when I play guitar I play beatbox (emulating drum rythms with my mouth). For me I find this the superior way for me to generate the natural human flow with the music which is very hard to to do in non real time, a lot easier to record both rhythm and guitars at the same time for me.

So what ways do you recommend for me to trigger my drum samples ? Should I use some kind of trigger mic or use an usual micrphone and use some plug ?  what way is the best ?  I use Toontrack Superior Drummer 2.0

I use some beatbox in this recording with the guitar.  The big advantage here is as I said that both rythm and guitar is done in real time.

http://www.delafil.se/download.php?key=788747092ca1317097b22a945e6b4b5f  Works in VLC player



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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: What synths did O÷phoi used?
« on: May 12, 2014, 09:59:27 AM »
he also used Orville and h8000fw in the end I remember. He was quite overwhelmed by the h8000fw reverbs  I remember from his old posts.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Backup?
« on: May 11, 2014, 06:47:33 AM »
Also I have been thinking about backupping final mixes to some cloud service maybe.. it can be good to have an  external backup, in case of a fire or something. As always with Cloud service it is recommended to encrypt your data if you do not trust the NSA.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: What synths did O÷phoi used?
« on: May 10, 2014, 09:10:48 PM »
I am pretty sure he did use Oberheim too..
Maybe go thru his old posts on the forum, he was quite active on this forum, I am sure he did mention the synths he did use.

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look at the dealer list ?
It is kind of easy to find..

You need to look into more analogue boxes :)
What it looks like have nothing to do with the sonic quality.

the Nice DI have the exact same output stage found in the Nicerizer.
These are well built boxes.

http://cdn3.volusion.com/b3o4z.gn3gt/v/vspfiles/photos/7046-3.jpg?1372066541

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What about this one:




I am have not knowledge about it really.. but all I can say is my extensive research did all lead to phonix audio.
It is the versatility that is unique and the pricing point with them. They can sound like solid state amp (non coloured) but also like a mix between a tube amp and Neve.. that mix turn out to be a very satisfying experience..
Please feel free to read about the phonix audio's product..you will see the pattern...I have yet not found any negative post about their products..  Their Nice DI product is the chepeast way to get the phonix audio sound.. it can also be used as a stereo summurizing mixer 

It will work very good on keyboards and guitar

Phoenix Audio Nice DI 2-Channel Direct Box



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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Handmade synthesizers
« on: May 09, 2014, 03:17:02 PM »
It's a sort of tone generator. It's hand made by this guy:

http://electrolobotomy.blogspot.pt/


pretty cool..I will look into his stuff..

http://www.etsy.com/listing/80095254/dense-forest-experimental-instrument

not expensive either.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Handmade synthesizers
« on: May 09, 2014, 02:54:26 PM »
looks cool..and fun..

the red stuff in the second video that is some kind of controller ?

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Can you recommend a pre amp with those characteristics? Thanks.


http://www.phoenixaudio.net/ they do great products and very good value for the money.. and affordable...
especially if you go with their one channel solutions even though the multiple channels have a better price per channel...

in the analogue world  it might not be the price that makes the difference but a certain colour.. so there is cheaper solutions out there for sure..adding it on digital synths adding analogue colour and characteristics into the chain can make  big improvement can be made even with the cheapest analogue solutions since it often outbeat the most sophisticated VA emulations.

My opinion is that many lifeless and medicore synths out there could had been wonderful with a really great analogue output stage and pre amp to transform the signal.. and it is especially when you drive the signal hard on the pre amp you get good results.. gives the sound more power and interesting harmonics to the sound which is often lacks in digital synths which sounds very linear and non organic.

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A bit off-topic but why did you sold the Xpander?

In all honesty It did not meet my expectations, I am sure I would be more impressed with the matrix 12.
I still miss the Xpander but it was not worth it for me, it was also a ticking time bomb that could collapse any minute... with a lot of sound processing the source gets less and less important you can compensate it with processing to make it to have some of the same characteristics...  the Xpander would be nice to have but it was not what I thought it would be and what it is for steve roach..for steve it seem that the Xpanders are the only synth in this universe.. I also can get analogue characteristics  if I run it thru a pre amp and such.. so many ways to improve and shape the signal of any synth..

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