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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: EQ Searching
« on: February 25, 2014, 03:03:31 PM »
I am pretty sure you mean the SurferEQ.

Nope, as i said there was a visual keyboard appearing in the plugin

sorry I did read too quickly.. anyway the "note" part..I guess the SurferEQ is for..

I am not sure which one you mean then..

maybe this one..

obviously this problem is kind of a common problem... for all analogue equipment, the problem with oxidation or lack of use, even with expensive Neve equipment if you do not use the knobs etc.. you will eventually get the problem..  yeah.. you always learn new things..I have certainly not thought about the oxidation factor before..sounded kind of strange first but seem to be a kind of common problem..
especially in countries with unstable climate  which goes from warm to cold fast or air with high humidity.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: EQ Searching
« on: February 25, 2014, 02:25:25 PM »
I have tried most softube EQs, trident A range, focusing EQ, etc, the native instruments EQ, SSL Channel EQ (Duende),  MAAG EQ4,

I find some of the passive EQs of softube interesting, main problem is they sound too thin...side to side with the wavearts,  SSL Channel has an impressive abaility to create depth and sense of 3 Dimensions, it can transform the sound in good way, but SSL always produce this paper dry sound which is hard to get rid of, I can use it as a soundshaping tool but I need something to make it sound "wet" again after in the chain..
MAAG EQ4 is quite impressive specially for some electronic music,with the AIR filter, it is almost like an exciter, not sure what tricks are used... maybe some kind of compression in that air band...  but the problem for me here is it sounds too digital from the analogue emulated EQs which gives me that magic and sparkle in the top end..

I tend to always want to boost the high frequencies in my ambient music since it introduce interesting details and sound information to my ears.
It can also have an "exciter" effect, as I said I am trying to find something to beat the Wavearts Bax EQ mainly cause it is a total cpu hog which makes it impossible to make music..or at least it does limit me.. My hunt continues.. to find more analogue emulated EQs.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: EQ Searching
« on: February 25, 2014, 02:17:00 PM »
I am pretty sure you mean the SurferEQ.

You might try.. Hofa IQ EQ also.. for that..

Anyway..I have had a huge EQ obsesssion lately..trying most EQs I can find..
But it is mostly eqs with colour and which can add depth and detail level in general especially in the higher frequencies.. to make it sparkle more and introduce extra "magic" and harmonics.

I am only interested in EQs with a few knobs.. to replace my Tube saturator EQ which is the best I have found so far..

Everything and Nothing / Re: Regarding the Lost Island
« on: February 25, 2014, 07:42:07 AM »
I re watchted the series last year... I will watch it again when it is released in 4K and when I got a 4K tv OLED tv :)

I wonder what the lost guys are working on now, after Lost they did fringe.. now I am not sure what they are up to..
but I know what ever they did do it seem good..

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Reverb Plugin Sound Demos
« on: February 25, 2014, 07:39:25 AM »
The difference will become a lot bigger with long reverb times like 15-20 seconds.

Anyway I like the Eventide "preset" most on the guitar.  Aether still sounds most artificial and plastic to my ears.
Anyway..we are still just trying different presets.. cause the presets does not even have the same settings so it is hard
to come to any conclusion really.
Many of them use the filter, would be nicer to hear it with the HP/LP filter open the Lexicon reverb sounds not good and open with the filters enabled. anyway it is hard to do a test like this.. And the reverbs sound a lot more better when you do not use 100% wet signal I usually use 28% on my Lexion reverbs.

there is more videos on youtube of their module relaased earlier..I think there is a better chance to find a proper pad/ambient sounds if you search for it on youtube


there is a few pads here, but as I see it is hard to come to any conclusion when they use internal effects.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Reverb Plugin Sound Demos
« on: February 23, 2014, 10:37:52 AM »
I have the demo of the Lexicon PCM Effects running and Ive listened to the lex reverb and fx together.  They are good but if I did opt to buy the PCM native verbs I would use my Sound Toys fx for designing a sound

Alright, I have not tried it so I have no opinion about it..however.. I would most likely prefer the Lexicon effect cause it will come most close to the presets in the hardware units... but yeah.. I guess Lexicon is not most known for their other effects..  but the "resonant chords" and pitch shifting stuff I think is better on the Lexicon.. I have not tried it yet, all I know is I do not like sound toys.

I think the moog synths are in a class of it's own , but it is not always you want the moog sound..and it is not polyphonic  I am more interested in how it compare with Oberheim Xpander for instance.

since they use the internal reverb and effects in the demos it is hard to come to any conclusion to be honest...


Has any one tried it ?  I guess what makes it most interesting is the price point, it is cheaper then the Access Virus
but this is true analogue.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: ROACH Road Trip. . . .the Long Trip
« on: February 23, 2014, 02:53:57 AM »
sounds like a nice trip!
I envy you.

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: what Tv series should I see ?
« on: February 23, 2014, 02:51:24 AM »
I just finished watching all of "Downton Abbey"(in a week) and enjoyed that a lot. I'm debating which show to start watching. The current choices are:

1. Fringe
2. Breaking Bad
3. Vikings

Bonus: Space Above and Beyond


I really envy you... Both Fringe and breaking bad is totally masterpiece and very addictive I can promise you that...
Especially breaking bad... the trailer did not look that interesting I did not have high hopes for it.. but I was so wrong.

P.S. Andy, I really should see "Millenium" again. I was still in the Navy and missed the whole last season, so I have no clue how it ended. Was it worth it?

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: what Tv series should I see ?
« on: February 22, 2014, 07:43:00 AM »
I have now seen two first seasons of american horror was really good..
Started to watch beauty and the beast... third season of falling skies really good..and second season of continuum really good that also..
I have now started to watch the 4400 I like it so far.. reminds me a little bit of the series "invasion" which I also like.

After I watched the 4400 I plan to watch FlashForward ..

Everything and Nothing / Re: Regarding the Lost Island
« on: February 22, 2014, 07:40:37 AM »
Most of the series was shot in Hawaii... and humorously close to public beaches. (well all beaches are public in Hawaii technically).  Literally tons of the show was shot there - except a few bits here and there.  It's been a long while since I was nuts for Lost - man I loved that show.

Well I guess as usual the less you know about it the better..anyway I wish the island did really exist as it did in the tv series..
where all these mystery is..

Yeah I love it was christmas eve every time a new episode did air..was dying to know what would happen next..

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Reverb Plugin Sound Demos
« on: February 22, 2014, 07:20:38 AM »

I use the Lexicon PCM bundle (which like the PCM 96 which I also own) really is not what most of us old timers would consider "the lexicon sound". The PCM plugs/PCM96 are really closer to a TC M3000/M4000 style of verb as they are very open, pristine and clear. They are great for those types of high quality verbs where you are not sure what the verb is doing to your sound until you take it away.

If you want to get the full Lexicon sound the idea is to mix it with the Leixon Effects bundle, it has delays pitch shifting, chorus and all that..

The Random Hall is the "lexicon sound"  it is the one I use,  the new Hall algorithm is a completely new algorithm made for the PCM96,  I guess the new hall algorithm is more similiar to the TC reverbs cause it is more natural.

I just want to tell you all that, the Effects bundle exist, it is quite important when for instance we compare with Valhalla reverb which has pitch shifting.

Me personally when I make ambient music I tend to mix reverbs,  I use toraverb and random hall a lot.. they complete each other.
If I use Valhalla shimmer and add the Lexicon afterwards in the chain it gives more 3D sound. it is another mix reverbs..maybe you can use shorter tails but two reverbs.. experiment..

I have not tried the Lexicon Effect bundle myself, but I am sure if I had it I could get a more complete sound with just one reverb instead of mix.

Btw the Toraverb reminds me slightly of the Eventide reverb yet less metallic but it has plate characteristics..

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: February 20, 2014, 11:11:27 AM »
Corrupted -Garten

There used to be a really excellent label out there called Manifold Records.  They've been inactive for several years now, since 2007 I believe.  Anyway, they released an album called "The Nature of Sand" that included individual tracks by Illusion of Safety, Life Garden, and Voice of Eye.  Manifold also released albums called "Narratives:  Music for Fiction" by Paul Schutze/Voice of Eye/Robert Rich and another called "Guru Means Slayer of Darkness" by Illusion of Safety/Hands To/Bequeen.  These three-artist albums overlap by common artists and make kind of a nice trilogy of dark ambient music.  Many of the Manifold releases are still available via discogs and include the excellent compilations Endless 1 and Endless 2.  I'll have to check out the Life Garden/Voice of Eye collaboration you mention.  Thanks!

This one is a lot more "smooth" though.

Drone records did write

": collection of 8 works with incredible intense, dynamic & detailed musique concrete! Dark & poetic sound sculptures"

"Collection of works created 1990-2006 by this female French composer, who also had a mCD in the Metamkine-series "cinema pour l'oreille". In these 8 pieces she establishes a very powerful music which doesn't sound "electro-acoustic" in a classical sense at all - it's more like a very intense & dark experimental earplay-collage, with an incredible amount of different & very clear concrete sounds derived from objects, instruments & the environment, but highly effected & assembled in an fascinating way. Pure cinema for the ears, our highest praise !!
Imagine the intensity of BRUME of combined with the sound-detail richness of DHOMONT or PARMEGIANI... "

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Reverb Plugin Sound Demos
« on: February 18, 2014, 08:13:13 AM »
That music sounds very lush...nice improvisation Immersion.  Thanks!

The X-Verb was on my list but I back off it because of a strange demo download procedure...Will try it again.

Thank you very much!

Yes X-verb deserve a spot with the "big boys" in software reverb land.
But PCM native was released about the same time so I did suddenly loose interest in it (among others)
and I guess most people forgot about it too, the timing was not the best one from SSL, since it's main goal was to finally release a reverb that could replace the hardware boxes.

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