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I think it is important to separate the individual needs and predilections to find your very personal reverb. This is just the same procedere with the instrument.
When you dont have a lot of money but a passion to your sound, you simply try out something, and see what you can improve next.
I found out that my way of sound creation needs a reverb that is not simply added to the sounds but merges with sounds. I do not think (from hearing samples) that the big sky reverb will be the right choice.
I am very thankful for this discussion. Everyone is so deep into the matter, and so I can take a lot useful ideas with me.
Yes, I agree Scott. The pedals appear to fill the demands of outboard gear for a more drone and ambient project. And where I very much doubt the quality of the converters would cause any issues at all. At $500 you are saving a considerable amount of cash over the thousands needed for high end boxes that most likely do much more than you need and that may have many uses in a pro recording studio, but probably not in a more focused ambient only personal project. Think what you could buy with the money you save !
I think the low end H9 is a bargain at $399, and you add the space and other algorithms you want as needed.
I really must try the Big Sky myself.
I think dissing or dismissing sound tools as powerful and portable as the Eventide Space (or H9) or Strymon Big Sky is closing doors to wide creative possibilities in time and space.
I have a Lex PCM-90 but rarely use it since aquiring a Space as the 90 is so large and heavy with a slower editing interface. I've never taken it to gigs or improv sessions where huge amounts of dreamSTATE music is forged. In my studio, despite having the 90 and the full Lex PCM suite, my goto verbs are by Valhalla and I use the Lexes for alternate sound spaces. I can see buying a Big Sky this year (to keep on the thread topic) for an alternate reverb spectrum in a portable device. I picture an H9 and a Big Sky as a strong pair of verbs (plus) for live work. This is, of course, just my taste in sonics - though I'm not the only one. Here's Steve's thoughts:
I am a reverb junkie to me the blue sky sounds like cheap man's eventide, sounds not like the h8000 I have own.
More over I would not use a stomp box to but on my master bus conversion is probably the weak point of the blue Sky.
How would you think to compare a $5000 box to one that cost $500....of course its not going to come close to the converters that you once had in your Eventide....does not mean it cannot perform.
There are so many ways to use a stomp box, to suggest that one would put it on the master bus is ludicrous though it may present so interesting results.
You are right, I use the M7 more for real spaces for traditional types of rock, jazz, folk with clients...having said that it is a fantastic drum reverb even for ambient which is where I use it most in that context. Its also nice for cathedral type spaces.
When I want deep, lush vintage Lexicon style verbs for my synths I use the Strymon Big Sky reverb most. In fact I have not used or turned on my Lexicon PCM96 in almost a year because of these other two...also because the plug-in PCM is just more convenient.
Paul, do you know about the maximum reverb/decay time of your PCM96? I look for at least 20 seconds (that I use on my TC XL-One).
Does the PCM92 (that I will probably buy) offer the same reverb/decay time ? Thanks for your answer in advance, Jana
Indeed. Perhaps as Paul has sung the praise of it the Strymon Blue Sky it could be an option. It is a much praised box in the modular community who tend to use a lot of stomp boxes for external processing.
or the Big Sky
Julio, thanks so much. I am still in the vision phase. For sure I need at least 20 secs decay and high resolution (which means the reverb melts with the sound).Yes Oophoi had the TC 4000, and it is a great unit. I remember, I always wanted a Lexicon or Roland reverb
I have a TC 4000, it's a great reverb I recommend it. Steve does use a lot of Lexicon verbs but he also uses others as well like the Eventide stuff.
Loren, thanks for your recommendation. There are only a few demos to find unfortunately to compare with Lexicon. I need to go to the store for that
Sorry, I did tell a wrong info about Gigis reverb: He had a TC 3000. A TC 3000 reverb also is used on my Cosmos collab album with Ran.
If I remember right it has an infinite mode.
Every year I sort of set a goal and save up for those one or two items for the studio that I want or need. 2 years ago I upgraded my monitors with a pair of Focal Trio6BE and a set of Amphion One18s. This past year it was a matched pair of Chandler RS-124 compressors, a Bricasti reverb and the Apogee Symphony I/O MKII converter.
This coming year it will probably be a Chandler EMI Redd Microphone and another 2 Redd.47 Tube mic preamps which are the single best and most open, wide and euphonic microphone preamps/input devices I have ever heard or used in my life just magical.
Then next year it will probably be computer upgrade time...
No one said don't post tracks. Just put them in your sub thread, in the right place (Forum Member Projects).
I though my reason was clear.
Your tracks are neither Podcasts, Mixes, or Music Sample Clips.
I agree with Pete.
And Niclas you really should not be filling this section with your individual personal tracks.
Can you imagine what this would be like if everyone started putting all their unfinished pieces in here!!!
Please create an Ekstasis sub thread here or in Member Projects and put them all in there.
That way it is your thread and you can put whatever you want in there, it is all kept together, and other people can visit it if they choose too.
What happened to your album project thread - which is now gone ?
Here's my advice (for what its worth), instead of posting lots of work-in-progress stuff, why not just concentrate on finishing an album and releasing it ?
Put it up on Bandcamp - or even better still, iTunes and the like, then see how people respond to it. So, instead of being a critic of other people's projects, you can then be the creator and see what comes with that. You might find it to be an interesting exercise.
Maybe a new audio reverb unit. I am thinking about Lexicon PCM92 or Yamaha SPX2000.
Does anyone have a recommendation or good samples/demo videos?
Jana I would look at the TC Electronics Reverb 4000.....at least its on my list if I ever move on from the Eventide Eclipse.
Elektron Analog Heat
Analog heat is high on my list....it very well priced a$700 and change. There are other pro audio distortion/ saturation boxes out there that cost much more and do similar sonic alchemy.