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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Asianova?
« on: November 30, 2008, 01:07:45 PM »
Yes Ure Thrall sense of business is not what it should be...if you order from him you could expect it to arrive maybe within 6 months up to 2 years if they arrive at all...

I had to reorder them from Drone Records, the cds where all in catastropic condition, very scratchy and dirty..still waiting for my replacement copies..so be sure you ask Stefan at DR to get good copies..

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Asianova?
« on: November 30, 2008, 12:29:07 PM »
I did a thread about this amazing group not too long time ago...
Definitely one of the best psychedelic/cosmic ambient out there if not the best!
When you listen to it at night in bed you you enter new doorways and dimensions beyond time and space.
I really feel connected to a broader cosmos when listening to this music...

Too bad the cds have not been proerply released yet, only available from drone records now.
Also be careful to buy from Ure Thrall himself, I have got ripped of from him... 10+cds...still have not received them.

If you are into Asianova I really recommend to check out Ure Thrall - The bone tree soundtracks vol 1 &2

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Musical visualization
« on: November 27, 2008, 07:25:02 PM »
Alright, thanks for the tips, I am sure that help, it is very important that it flows 100% smooth, otherwise you do not get that hypnotic effect which draws you in...

I still got an old single core processor (northwood 2.2 GHZ), with extremely bad multitasking... so I doubt I can get it to flow unless I turn of all other programs. I might buy the Core i7 next month, even though the prices are sky high right now on the market...

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: November 27, 2008, 12:17:42 PM »
As I said, PCM70 is quite affordable, but I still skeptical for some reason... cause it is such a old product, would like to know how it compares to the newer Lexicon reverbs such as PCM96. And how come no reverbs above PCM90 is mention, why do they not sound as good when they are based on the same algorithms ?

Back about 5 years ago just before I bought my TC Reverb 4000 on ebay I bid on and won a Lexicon 300. The 300 was the budget version to their 480L, sort of like my 4000 is the budget version of TC's 6000. As I said I won the auction but the seller had no feedback and would not work with me on a third party arrangement like going through a broker, so I let it go and got the 4000 instead. I'm sure if I had gotten the 300 I would have been a very happy person. :)

These days if I were in the market for a Lexicon verb I would probably check out the PCM96. From the reviews I have read it has that signature Lexicon sound, and the real interesting part is it has a firewire connection and can be used like any plug-in in your DAW software.

As a side note if you were seriously interested in the H7600, I would check out the H8000FW instead, which also has firewire connections, although I am not sure if they have plug-in integration like the PMC96.

Some months ago, I was actually thinking about buying the Lexicon MX200 Processor, even though it contains "the legendary algorithms" as stated in the product description I doubt it can be compared with the high end products, now I am looking for the TC electronics G-Major instead.

The PCM96 would be a wet dream to own for sure, unfortunately the price is VERY expensive at least here in EU, for that money I can buy a lot of other studio equipment it is really no choice for me. But I guess that might be considered to be the ultimate Reverb Processor, unless you prefer Eventide maybe...

And yeah regarding Eventide,  if I had the money I would buy the H8000FW for sure, I could only imagine what a great guitar tone I would get with that processor :)


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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: November 27, 2008, 12:11:30 PM »
One of the liberating aspects of the way in which a lot of artists make their music these days is
that there are a lot of affordable tools available which are (arguably) almost as good as expensive
(and unattainable for most artists) high-end gear. I agree with APK's earlier point in this regard.

Yep, like Burgundy, Eqs and vintage guitar valve amps, its down to 'taste' ultimately. Naturally
some people have a lot more experience to judge their choices by, but others shouldn't feel that
their opinions are not valid. 
 
Immersion, you might want to try out these Lexicon Impulses from 'Noisevault':

http://noisevault.com/nv/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=29&func=selectcat&cat=7

There's PCM70 and PCM91 sets there amongst many others.

cheers
Pete


Really great, if they are professional done impulses that is...
I know about Noise vault for some time now, last time I did try to get some cabinet impulses for my POD.

I see the PCM impulses have got 4 stars, so I guess it is not perfect, however I will try to have a look
at the forum to see if there is any feedback. I am very interested to try anyhow, but
there is a big difference in quality of impulses, that is what differ "halls of fame" which is recording in 32 bit professional studio, in such circumstances you can get very near the reality with impulses.


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Everything and Nothing / Re: Musical visualization
« on: November 26, 2008, 09:21:29 PM »
Have tried G-force 3.7 now, I must say wow!
This looks very good, very hypnotic, and adds visual dimension to the music...
Looks like I need to buy an second monitor for this, so I can have it running on an separate monitor...

I also have noticed that it consume about 50% of my cpu, might be cause I have a quite old GFX (ATI Radeon 9200SE).
Is it a native software only, or does it use the GPU as well ?

Also is their any advantage to use G-force in your media player, for instance will it analyze the audio better ?
I have not got it to work in Xmplay yet, so I have only got the stand-alone version to work...
Maybe it will respond better to the music if I use it in the media player.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: November 26, 2008, 09:08:35 AM »
In theory I have never really understood why hardware should be better in then software, I mean if it is only mathematical algorithms, why would not software sound as good ? . . . .The only bad thing is that it consume a lot of cpu..but sounds very good.

In a way you answered your own question. Reverb is very complex and requires a lot of processing power to do correctly. Software versions on your computer have to compete with the OS, your recording software, other plug-ins, other instruments, etc. In a word most plug-in versions are dumbed down so they are usable in a DAW enviroment with other plug-ins.

Also I Lexicon has released a software version of their "legendary algorithms"  called "Pantheon LE" How does this really compare with the hardware versions ?

I have not used it myself but the "LE" in the name is telling. That usually stands for "Lite Edition," meaning not as complex. The PCM70 is the classic Lexicon verb but just about all of those boxes are 20 years old now and I understand some parts like the display are getting hard to find so make sure you get one with a good display.



I am not sure DSP power is the problem anymore. A PCM70 that is over 20 years old should by no means compare to today's DSP power of today's computers systems. Even if it was a problem you should still be able to use these algorithms in render-mode, where the only thing that matters is "render-time" and not DSP power in real-time. From what I know neither Lexicon or Eventide offer this in software-form...

However, what I do think is that this has to do with strategies, the manufactures would basically dig their own grave if they did release their algorithms as software due piracy, it seems like a way better and safer strategy to keep these algorithms in these hardware boxes, this is my theory...

As I said, PCM70 is quite affordable, but I still skeptical for some reason... cause it is such a old product, would like to know how it compares to the newer Lexicon reverbs such as PCM96. And how come no reverbs above PCM90 is mention, why do they not sound as good when they are based on the same algorithms ?






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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: November 25, 2008, 11:59:23 AM »
Reverb is like wine, very subject to price, age, make and of course ultimately, taste.

A few thoughts here from a reverb snob (I am also a wine, beer and coffee snob as well  :P ).


If you are after a great deep space reverb, then you should not look at Eventide, regardless of the preset name on the H7600. Now the H7600 is indeed a great, incredible effects processor, but I don't think you will find many in the pro studio world who would reach for an Eventide unit for just reverbs. They are more known for their pitch shifting, harmonizing and spacial stereo algorythms, but not verbs. I have the Eventide Eclipse which is a great effects unit, but the verbs are pretty bad...

That mantle goes to Lexicon for the most part, and maybe TC if you want realism.

The new player on the block is Bricasti, who only make one product the M7 Reverb which is supposed to be amazing.

Now the snobby part, the reality is if you truly want the luscious verbs you hear on Roach or Rich albums or even what you hear on most music on the radio you are looking at reverbs in the $2000 - $4000 price range. Many will argue but any Lexicon unit below the PCM series or TC unit below the M-3000/4000 series do not even come close to this quality.

The only similarity in the MPX Lexicons or 200/300 series TC units is the brand name.

So what to do if you do not have this kind of cash??? Well there are some decent plug-ins (you will need some decient processing power on your computer) the CSR verbs are nice, Breverb, many Convolution verbs are not bad, as is the reverbs on the TC powercore (they are actually from a TC system 6000), but they are pricey, plus add in the powercore...

...or go used. Yesterday's PCM-70/90 will still blow any modern MPX series away, M-3000's used are in the $700 range...or as JKM mentioned, the Alesis Wedge is not a bad Lexicon substitute if you can live with the noise. I use one all the time live.

Just some opions,

Paul

Will try to look more into Bricasti..sound interesting...
Btw I can find the PCM-70 quite cheap for around 750 dollars here in Sweden.
I would probably prefer the PCM-90 verision which is newer, but a lot more expensive.
I will also look into CSR and Breverb as you did mention.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: November 25, 2008, 11:53:29 AM »
In theory I have never really understood why hardware should be better in then software,
I mean if it is only mathematical algorithms, why would not software sound as good ?

Also I Lexicon has released a software version of their "legendary algorithms"  called "Pantheon LE"
How does this really compare with the hardware versions ?

Eventide also have reverb plugins for the pro tools platform.

I only use impulse reverbs, also when when speak about software reverbs in general we should keep in mind
that "Halls of fame" which is a collection of impulse reverbs..was released quite recently..and it set a new standard
in software reverbs.  The only bad thing is that it consume a lot of cpu..but sounds very good.

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Sounds great Jim, will try to get these cds somehow.
And really nice that Steve Roach did help with the mastering.
thanks!
lest anyone get confused and not realize that immersion is joking, that would be steve philips.

Ah sorry :)
For me there is only one Steve! :)
But anyway you both did a great job as it seems :)

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Everything and Nothing / Re: CD-R Deterioration
« on: November 23, 2008, 07:18:33 PM »
Most people use the most cheap media you can find, even blank cdrs with no print etc...
"Taiyo Yuden" have a 100 year guarantee though :)

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Everything and Nothing / Re: CD-R Deterioration
« on: November 23, 2008, 03:31:33 PM »
I have tried many drives for each of the "faded" discs with no luck.

From now on when I get a CD-R, I will rip immediately, then place it in an opaque vacuum container, and store at -70 deg F in the basement where gamma radiation is less prevalent.   ;D

Sounds like a good idea, I always do that, I do not even own a cd player :)
I always rip cd to flac and burn it on dvd-r.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: CD-R Deterioration
« on: November 23, 2008, 03:04:00 PM »
Ah ok good then, well your only hope would be to try with an different cd drive...that might be able to recover those tracks...

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Everything and Nothing / Re: CD-R Deterioration
« on: November 23, 2008, 02:47:11 PM »
This is an oft discussed topic.

I've actually had more regular CDs go bad than CDR's. Which surprises me. People's mileage varies though. It has a lot to do with how they are treated and stored. The sun is a major enemy. But there is the problem of some CDR blanks simply being better than others, and labels/individuals should not blindly use the cheapest they can find.

Of course backing up the music is a good thing to do to all disks. I used to backup vinyl to tape back in the day ... but the disks lasted much longer than the tape  ;D

At DataObscura I will automatically replace any CDR that goes bad. But I've had to do that with just 2 or 3 in total over the years.


Also the CDDA is a damn old and obsolete standard with many flaws...
DVDa is much better when it comes to error correction...so it is not as sensitive to scratches etc...

If you want to feel secure for instance when you rip a cd to the computer you need more then once reference point to be sure...that your rip is accurate..that is how unsafe the CDDA standard is...

Personally I always use 2 to 3 reference points, 2 cd-rom's and accurate rip (if the cd is in the database).
Also I use ultra secure more in dBpoweramp Reference, which basically read each sector on the cd 1-5 times.

I really which new and modern cdda would include more meta data which would make this more easy and secure... it is in theory possible..to add such meta data in data track on the end of the disc. But again I doubt any of this will happen, they do not even want us to copy the music at all, it is strictly illegal to make copies :)

And by the way if you have problem to read scratched cds this has a lot of to do with what cd-rom you are using, the ability to read defective cds vary a lot, I have done a lot research about this, and the "Teac 224" dvd drive is the best choice of this, in combination with dBpoweramp Reference, it has a special ripping mode for such cds "defective by design" which is specially designed for defective and unreadable cds...

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Everything and Nothing / Re: CD-R Deterioration
« on: November 23, 2008, 02:39:02 PM »
The reality is, it really depends in what cd-r media you are using, since the quality are varied...

For instance, if you buy cdr/dvdr with "Taiyo Yuden" you will have the same quality if not better then "professional" cd/dvd's. Taiyo Yuden did invent the CDr technology in the 80s.

Those cd/dvds that is not first grade, they sell to brands like Verbatim etc etc they get the second grade shit.

However Taiyo Yuden can be quite hard to get, you might need to look more to find it..
But it is more expensive then non-quality media..there for more non-popular.
However if you want Taiyo Yuden quality make sure to check the media code, I know for instance
Plextor sell Taiyo Yuden dvd's under the name plextor...

http://www.mediaprostore.com/Taiyo-Yuden.html?gclid=CJ_Ntp-fjJcCFUog3godcketDA

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Musical visualization
« on: November 23, 2008, 11:40:29 AM »
Alright, I will try the demo version....is the demo complete ?


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I have been going through all Erik Wllo albums meanwhile...
He has done some great albums I must say...

Albums like "Emotional Landscapes" and "Blue Sky, Red Guitars"


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Everything and Nothing / Re: Musical visualization
« on: November 23, 2008, 11:23:44 AM »
I refuse to use iTunes, but this itunes visualizer looks surprisingly good..


It is however questionable of how much if these visualize are in phase with the music, looks kind of random.

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Everything and Nothing / Musical visualization
« on: November 23, 2008, 11:14:03 AM »
I think most of us listen to music must of the time in front of the computer, personally I find it very hard to enjoy the music when reading or chatting with people simultaneously , and stare into the wall is not so interesting either, is there some kind visualization that will visualize the music in an meaningful way, and I am not talking about windows media player, there must be something better.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: November 23, 2008, 11:06:13 AM »
Well, I have read on some forums that this is the coolest reverb, but unfortunately very expensive, and from what I know there is no other similar reverb ???

http://www.eventide.com/AudioDivision/Products/Harmonizers/H7600.aspx

Would be really interesting to hear how it sounds...I have always been looking for something more celestial in reverbs... more space-like.

What kind of reverbs are in general recommended for ambient la steve roach ?

Personally I have got best results with "Empty Arena" or "Taj Mahal Deep", this keeps a good balance between softness and riverlike flow and transparency in the sound.


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