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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ableton Live 9 and Max for Live
« on: November 19, 2013, 12:22:58 PM »
well it is quite widely known, atleast before but I guess I should take it back cause in all honesty I have not been keeping up with the last versions.
I used ableton live in 2009 I am not sure what version was out then, 7 ?
people in different forums did complan about the sound might be better now though..

Ok but  a lot of people use it only for session view I can promise you that..
Cause it was one of things that no other DAW had really...
now it looks like the X3 have something similar though. I am sorry If I am negative I am just not
a big fan of ableton anymore.  Why are you using ableton ? 

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: My Music Studio in Progress!!!
« on: November 19, 2013, 11:38:10 AM »

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ableton Live 9 and Max for Live
« on: November 19, 2013, 11:37:22 AM »
I have not been using ableton live since 2009, I did move over to reaper.. which is use the cpu better and gives better sound quality.
the latest Sonar X3 seem to be very inspired form Ableton it have the session view...which is the only thing why people use ableton.
This is something I kind of miss in Reaper. But with a maxed cpu I must prioritize performance.

well you are right, making ambient with the mouse is not real ambient from heart, atleast it does not feel that way for me, I have no interest to morph in afterwards besides mixing but I want to morph the audio in real time. Otherwise it feels pointless for me.

If you do not use the session view, I would recommend trying Reaper.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: My Music Studio in Progress!!!
« on: November 18, 2013, 08:19:37 AM »
my H8000FW did arrive today. It will take some time before I can actually use it though, I need to buy a pre amp and some more mogami cables before I can do so, this unit is even more expensive in EU then in USA, so I am completely broke now for some time.  This will maybe give me some time to study the manual,...from what I have been reading..there is some learning curve... but I guess it all depend on my pre-experience... I do not I aim to use the Firewall connection at all. I will use digital AES ports.

I wonder really, how many % of the forum members are artists themselves seem to be a forum for artists for sure :)

I have not been here since 2009 little bit  sad to see that it is a lot less activity here now..where did people go ?

Personally I have been listening to less ambient the last few years I must admit, there is a lot less good ambient released in my opinion.
And ever since Steve Roach did move to his new home and new studio I do not think he have produced any amazing stuff to be honest..
Same goes with Robert Rich he have not released much good last few years, but I must admit the Nest album was really good.

Anyway I hope more people come back it is a nice community for sure. quite unique. 

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bandcamp
« on: November 18, 2013, 07:23:10 AM »
Immersion  Read the page  Everything is clear and understandable.  :)

Thanks for the information.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bandcamp
« on: November 17, 2013, 08:09:05 PM »
I hope something will happen...File sharing is better then spotify..cause atleast then the artitsts fans do not get fooled by paying money into the wrong is like fooling people and give them good conscience to "listen" to music. But as long is it is greedy companies like spotify then file sharing and bit torrents is preferred... I am not a high beliver in that model...I like bandcamp system better..
especially if you yourself can decide what price.. A lot of artits have no job..they just need money for rent and food..
for that even small contributions can make big difference but if spotify take 99.9% it is not possible to survive on music..

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bandcamp
« on: November 17, 2013, 06:51:52 PM »
I love Bandcamp as an unsigned musician. It serves its purpose extremely well.

It's great for fans too because I know I've discovered plenty of great music there.

yes I like the conecept...

I much comission does bandcamp take ?
are they greedy ?

15% for digital sales. That's not too bad IMO.

surprisingly low. I did expect atleast 30%...
I wonder what spotify have, probably 99% or something (shared with the label combined)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bandcamp
« on: November 17, 2013, 06:24:09 PM »
I love Bandcamp as an unsigned musician. It serves its purpose extremely well.

It's great for fans too because I know I've discovered plenty of great music there.

yes I like the conecept...

I much comission does bandcamp take ?
are they greedy ?

Mike, donīt forget that people usually eat what they get served in the Apple universe and mainly applaud in chorus….at the end i can see in anything something positive even itīs a step backwards.

Good written, yeah it is correct, the apple users will of course gratefully eat everything that is thrown to them... cause what ever choice do they have ?
Studies shows that Apples userbase is the most loyal in the world... even if apple release a bad product in the way the psychology is that with displacement they do everything in their own power and  they try to find ways to rationalize to protect themselves and there loyalism...if you are stuck in the apple swamp it is usually very hard to move from it..  Now when the new Mac PRO has no PCIe, all of the sudden every one who use apple think PCIe is obsolete and thunderbolt is the new big thing and should be used for everything.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bandcamp
« on: November 16, 2013, 11:49:55 AM »
How many people know it is 128kb/s  I do not think many...
I found it out when I did try to download some album with jdownloader.

I understand they want to keep bandwidth down.

yes I agree, the promotion could be better.  Jeff Greinke is among the best, and he is underrated.

I am not a apple user. Moving away... I am not sure...PCIe cards is still considered to have the best performance and latency, especially the RME MADI FX cards...
You can't do that with thunderbolt with such low latency.  If you do not care about latency or performance then Thunderbolt will work for you.
If you use a lot of software synths and effects, latency is important.  It is still a slap in the face.  To use a break out box for PCIe of course makes me laugh.
But yeah atleast it does work, but to then claim that apple is a better solution then PC..I am not sure how you would reason.

The Mac pro should be called mac pro portable, and they could keep tue usual mac pro mid tower series... and everyone would be happy.
But to force everyone to use thunderbolt is stupid and respectless, apples message to us is now "you must start use thunderbolt or fuck off"

5% there is a lot more people than that that use PCIe for sure.

However, Apple will now force the market to change and make more thunderbolt devices that is a direct consequence...
Another direct consequence is that a lot more people will start using PC solutions cause in reality a lot of people think the new mac pro
is a disaster in many ways.

Well it is to early to boycott PCIe, that is a slap in the face for most audio professionals.
But yeah they are trying to control the future, just like when they did boycott Adobe Flash, everyone use it...

Everything will be smaller so yeah the PCIe standard will with time  just become too much of an big form factor.
But it is important to not choose form before performance and function. if we do that there is mobile alternatives such as laptops
which compromise the performance to get a smaller form factor.

As I said Apple did just recently give a slap in the face for the whole audio pro industry,  they are now telling us just must ditch all PCIe and use thunderbolt.
well I do not want thunderbolt, it is not mature enough yet, it increase latency and cpu.  A lot of people have invested in graphic card and audio cards...
I intend to have my RME HDSPe AES for a long time and many of these sound card have atleast a 10 year life span so..yeah Apple is way ahead of its time and
it provoes that they either do not give a shit about us, and just focusing on the most profitable users or they have lost their own sense of what the market is requsting.

Most people if you really ask I think would prefer a bigger form factor with higher clock frequency and more powerful in general.

This release feels just a lig a gigantic PR stunt they just want to show that they are still inovating without steve jobs by doing something "unexpected" and "stupid" .
But they get a lot of attention, a lot of superficial who want something that looks "different" and "expensive" on there desk will of course applaud.
It will appeal to trendy People who just want to live in the illusion that they got something superior light years ahead of anything else, while what they got is
just a underclocked cpu with no internal expanssion. 

Just as with Intel thunderbolt, Intel has once again giving Apple all rights reserved on the market to use the latest intel cpu they are using , that gives Apple monopoly on the market with that cpu because of the agreement intel has made with apple to not let it out on the PC market.  This is the only indication of if the cpu will be released for PC market or not..

So yeah it is hard to compete with monopoly for sure...and that strategy have been used by apple systematically for a long time, they know what they are doing.
as long as Apple have monopoly on the cpu it will of course be hard to compete.

Jeff Greinke have a new album out..I have not heard it yet..

He also did a soundtrack for the film "Oil and water" I can deeply recommend this film!
It is among the most mesmerizing audio visual experience I have seen... the bad thing is it is only 21 minutes long...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bandcamp
« on: November 16, 2013, 05:21:45 AM »
Bandcamp do the all file conversion.....the artist sends them wav files, at say 24bit @ 96k and they will convert it to the other formats.  AS to limiting the free format...thats is up to the artist.  From my experience usually all digital formats are available, though I have not check the Rich bandcamp site you maybe this is new.

I hop they atleast use the LAME codec, it is the only mp3 codec that is good. Can't feel good for a artist like Robert rich to know all people listen to low quality stream.
But I think this is a big problem, especially the younger generation now days only do streaming and they are getting used to crap quality.  Youtube, spotify etc
And spotify have been caught re encoding 128kbps mp3s to higher bitrates to sell for premium members.

I prefer mp3 then streaming, cause with mp3 I can also use ASIO in my mediaplayer. makes a huge difference.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bandcamp
« on: November 15, 2013, 08:07:20 PM »
I am just listening to the new Robert Rich album "Morphology" on bandcamp, thank you for offering it for free.
But I must say it does worry me how many percent will actually pay for the high quality version ?
How many people are aware that the free stream has very bad audio quality and does not represent the original ?
a 128kbps can't deliver the depth of lets say vbr or 320 kbps.  I also wonder what codec is used by bandcamp or if it is the artist
who does the mp3 encoding ?  Anyway, my point is the audio quality and especially for ambient music for the free streams are unlistenable
you can just scratch the service but not dig down into the depths of the sound.. also all higher frequencies are cut off almost.

if a arist offer the stream for free, I see no reason why they should limit the bitrate to 128 kbps CBR.

I'm glad that Bandcamp provides FLAC downloads for those that want really high quality. I personally don't find the Bandcamp streams to be that bad but they're definitely not the highest quality.

Note I am talking about the FREE streams that is provided on artists pages for free. they are 128kbps , and in my Trident HG3 speakers they sound horrible,  it is not hard for me to spot a 128kbps from a VbR encode, I also wonder what codec they use.

But in depends on the material of course, for instance mp3 have hard encoding transients faitfully, so if the music has a lot of transients it will be easier to hear the difference cause the mp3 format usually soften the transients.

I am also glad they provide FLAC, I would personally feel fooled otherwise If I pay for it and get only mp3. a 21 bit FLAC would be the best.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 14, 2013, 09:02:15 AM »
radio massacre international - The Clouds Of Titan

Klaus wiese is among the best, R.IP.
Nice to see his albums is still releasesed, he is still kind of unkown and underground even in ambient circles.
I thnk i Have all his albums in his massive discopgrahy, maybe a few missing..

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