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Other Ambient (and related) Music / David Parsons - Earthlight (2008)
« on: December 03, 2008, 04:40:45 PM »
Now available through http://steveroach.com/store/store.php?item=412

"Over his past few releases, New Zealand veteran electronic composer David Parsons has deliberately been refining his electronic composition approach and overall sound sense, drawing from a keen awareness of tone and nuance and a sense of inner and outer spaces in balance. This awareness has developed over many years from both pure electronic music explorations and a deep connection to the music of south Asia. Having traveled extensively through India, Thailand, Indonesia and beyond, recording the indigenous music from these cultures, these diverse recordings are featured on the Celestial Harmonies label. These years of experience and the understanding drawn from these acoustic realms has infused EARTHLIGHT in a deep and powerful way."

"The pieces featured on EARTHLIGHT are purely synthesizer-based, with sounds created from the ground up, from the inside out. The pieces were recorded in nearly real-time; the direct emotions and artistry were not lost in a realm of too many choices. The release features David's arching, cloud-like atmospheres combined with subtle percolating electronic percussion and buoyant rhythmic patterns. The delicate quality stands out, blending perfectly with the atmospherics. This release stands amoung my favorite releases this year, and is highly recommended." review by Steve Roach

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Naked City
« on: December 02, 2008, 01:25:23 PM »
The Naked City Tribute band is also very recommended :)




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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Naked City
« on: December 02, 2008, 11:56:30 AM »
None of those bands compare with Naked City!
But I guess they are more easy listening definitely.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Naked City
« on: December 01, 2008, 11:02:36 PM »
I am not really sure why I did post a thread about  this band on an AMBIENT forum, but I guess I was in such extraordinary climax while listening through the Naked City albums :)

This definitely not music for everyone, this some really fucked up shit, crazy music for crazy people :)

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Audela: great cosmic space album
« on: December 01, 2008, 10:35:34 PM »
Listening to the Audela album now...through this deep night...

It has it's moments...some of the more melancholic moments in Part 1 is EPIC...very good.
The rest of the album sounds not as good..Part 4 is quite listenable as well...I assume it will sound
more satisfying in speakers where I do not hear all this flaws and details...

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Naked City
« on: December 01, 2008, 07:29:46 PM »
Do anybody else likes this project by John Zorn. Definitely the most CRAZY schizo avantgarde-Jazz I have heard.

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Been listening to Stream of Thought a couple of times now...
It took some time to grasp and to get a grip out of it. I am very impressed by the album,
it sounds very new and fresh, definitely one of Steve's most progressive albums, Roach and Wllo turned out be
a very successful collaboration, very progressive and fresh sounds...

Unfortunately this album is little uneven...all these fragments those not fit well together...I wish the album would not have so many parts, I would prefer them be more longer and focused..
However the whole album is filled with a stream of unique sounds...

I am quite sure that that this duo will make another album, I find it hard to see why they should not, cause I see so much potential in this duo. If they just could up with a concept cd that flows better and with less parts next time I think this could be totally amazing!

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: December 01, 2008, 01:26:22 PM »
I use SIR 1.011 version (free) and he has a commercial one available as well. I also purchased all 3 Impulse Response releases from Spectral Canyon and use them pretty much any time I use SIR in my tunes. Reasonably priced as well.

Here's the link: http://www.knufinke.de/sir/

Mike



I have used SIR, it is the best FREE convolution reverb for sure (not much competition though). The biggest drawback with the free version is that you can't use the equalizer on the impulses. The included impulses compared with others are not topclass. I have heard also compared to other convultion reverbs that it does color the sound a lot. Personally I prefer Waves IR1, it both sounds better and you have way more settings and parameters to form the sound.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: December 01, 2008, 01:16:02 PM »
There's an interesting article by Myles Boisen in this month's Electronic Musician about creating space in mixes.  He refers to most free reverb plug-ins and inexpensive outboard reverb processors as having high coloration:

http://emusician.com/tutorials/space-place-part/

And...oh yeah, happy thanksgiving, everyone!

Forrest


Interesting article...

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Asianova?
« on: December 01, 2008, 01:10:10 PM »
Only these two albums has been released on CD.

All the rest of the albums has been released on CDr through Discorporeality Recordings, these
cds are very hard to get, and from what I know Drone Records are the only place who has them...

I can really recommend "Suite Dreams" and "Terminal Ferocity" as well...

Complete discography
http://www.discogs.com/artist/Asianova

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Asianova?
« on: November 30, 2008, 01:07:45 PM »
Yes Ure Thrall sense of business is not what it should be...if you order from him you could expect it to arrive maybe within 6 months up to 2 years if they arrive at all...

I had to reorder them from Drone Records, the cds where all in catastropic condition, very scratchy and dirty..still waiting for my replacement copies..so be sure you ask Stefan at DR to get good copies..

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Asianova?
« on: November 30, 2008, 12:29:07 PM »
I did a thread about this amazing group not too long time ago...
Definitely one of the best psychedelic/cosmic ambient out there if not the best!
When you listen to it at night in bed you you enter new doorways and dimensions beyond time and space.
I really feel connected to a broader cosmos when listening to this music...

Too bad the cds have not been proerply released yet, only available from drone records now.
Also be careful to buy from Ure Thrall himself, I have got ripped of from him... 10+cds...still have not received them.

If you are into Asianova I really recommend to check out Ure Thrall - The bone tree soundtracks vol 1 &2

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Musical visualization
« on: November 27, 2008, 07:25:02 PM »
Alright, thanks for the tips, I am sure that help, it is very important that it flows 100% smooth, otherwise you do not get that hypnotic effect which draws you in...

I still got an old single core processor (northwood 2.2 GHZ), with extremely bad multitasking... so I doubt I can get it to flow unless I turn of all other programs. I might buy the Core i7 next month, even though the prices are sky high right now on the market...

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: November 27, 2008, 12:17:42 PM »
As I said, PCM70 is quite affordable, but I still skeptical for some reason... cause it is such a old product, would like to know how it compares to the newer Lexicon reverbs such as PCM96. And how come no reverbs above PCM90 is mention, why do they not sound as good when they are based on the same algorithms ?

Back about 5 years ago just before I bought my TC Reverb 4000 on ebay I bid on and won a Lexicon 300. The 300 was the budget version to their 480L, sort of like my 4000 is the budget version of TC's 6000. As I said I won the auction but the seller had no feedback and would not work with me on a third party arrangement like going through a broker, so I let it go and got the 4000 instead. I'm sure if I had gotten the 300 I would have been a very happy person. :)

These days if I were in the market for a Lexicon verb I would probably check out the PCM96. From the reviews I have read it has that signature Lexicon sound, and the real interesting part is it has a firewire connection and can be used like any plug-in in your DAW software.

As a side note if you were seriously interested in the H7600, I would check out the H8000FW instead, which also has firewire connections, although I am not sure if they have plug-in integration like the PMC96.

Some months ago, I was actually thinking about buying the Lexicon MX200 Processor, even though it contains "the legendary algorithms" as stated in the product description I doubt it can be compared with the high end products, now I am looking for the TC electronics G-Major instead.

The PCM96 would be a wet dream to own for sure, unfortunately the price is VERY expensive at least here in EU, for that money I can buy a lot of other studio equipment it is really no choice for me. But I guess that might be considered to be the ultimate Reverb Processor, unless you prefer Eventide maybe...

And yeah regarding Eventide,  if I had the money I would buy the H8000FW for sure, I could only imagine what a great guitar tone I would get with that processor :)


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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: November 27, 2008, 12:11:30 PM »
One of the liberating aspects of the way in which a lot of artists make their music these days is
that there are a lot of affordable tools available which are (arguably) almost as good as expensive
(and unattainable for most artists) high-end gear. I agree with APK's earlier point in this regard.

Yep, like Burgundy, Eqs and vintage guitar valve amps, its down to 'taste' ultimately. Naturally
some people have a lot more experience to judge their choices by, but others shouldn't feel that
their opinions are not valid. 
 
Immersion, you might want to try out these Lexicon Impulses from 'Noisevault':

http://noisevault.com/nv/index.php?option=com_remository&Itemid=29&func=selectcat&cat=7

There's PCM70 and PCM91 sets there amongst many others.

cheers
Pete


Really great, if they are professional done impulses that is...
I know about Noise vault for some time now, last time I did try to get some cabinet impulses for my POD.

I see the PCM impulses have got 4 stars, so I guess it is not perfect, however I will try to have a look
at the forum to see if there is any feedback. I am very interested to try anyhow, but
there is a big difference in quality of impulses, that is what differ "halls of fame" which is recording in 32 bit professional studio, in such circumstances you can get very near the reality with impulses.


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Everything and Nothing / Re: Musical visualization
« on: November 26, 2008, 09:21:29 PM »
Have tried G-force 3.7 now, I must say wow!
This looks very good, very hypnotic, and adds visual dimension to the music...
Looks like I need to buy an second monitor for this, so I can have it running on an separate monitor...

I also have noticed that it consume about 50% of my cpu, might be cause I have a quite old GFX (ATI Radeon 9200SE).
Is it a native software only, or does it use the GPU as well ?

Also is their any advantage to use G-force in your media player, for instance will it analyze the audio better ?
I have not got it to work in Xmplay yet, so I have only got the stand-alone version to work...
Maybe it will respond better to the music if I use it in the media player.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: November 26, 2008, 09:08:35 AM »
In theory I have never really understood why hardware should be better in then software, I mean if it is only mathematical algorithms, why would not software sound as good ? . . . .The only bad thing is that it consume a lot of cpu..but sounds very good.

In a way you answered your own question. Reverb is very complex and requires a lot of processing power to do correctly. Software versions on your computer have to compete with the OS, your recording software, other plug-ins, other instruments, etc. In a word most plug-in versions are dumbed down so they are usable in a DAW enviroment with other plug-ins.

Also I Lexicon has released a software version of their "legendary algorithms"  called "Pantheon LE" How does this really compare with the hardware versions ?

I have not used it myself but the "LE" in the name is telling. That usually stands for "Lite Edition," meaning not as complex. The PCM70 is the classic Lexicon verb but just about all of those boxes are 20 years old now and I understand some parts like the display are getting hard to find so make sure you get one with a good display.



I am not sure DSP power is the problem anymore. A PCM70 that is over 20 years old should by no means compare to today's DSP power of today's computers systems. Even if it was a problem you should still be able to use these algorithms in render-mode, where the only thing that matters is "render-time" and not DSP power in real-time. From what I know neither Lexicon or Eventide offer this in software-form...

However, what I do think is that this has to do with strategies, the manufactures would basically dig their own grave if they did release their algorithms as software due piracy, it seems like a way better and safer strategy to keep these algorithms in these hardware boxes, this is my theory...

As I said, PCM70 is quite affordable, but I still skeptical for some reason... cause it is such a old product, would like to know how it compares to the newer Lexicon reverbs such as PCM96. And how come no reverbs above PCM90 is mention, why do they not sound as good when they are based on the same algorithms ?






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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: November 25, 2008, 11:59:23 AM »
Reverb is like wine, very subject to price, age, make and of course ultimately, taste.

A few thoughts here from a reverb snob (I am also a wine, beer and coffee snob as well  :P ).


If you are after a great deep space reverb, then you should not look at Eventide, regardless of the preset name on the H7600. Now the H7600 is indeed a great, incredible effects processor, but I don't think you will find many in the pro studio world who would reach for an Eventide unit for just reverbs. They are more known for their pitch shifting, harmonizing and spacial stereo algorythms, but not verbs. I have the Eventide Eclipse which is a great effects unit, but the verbs are pretty bad...

That mantle goes to Lexicon for the most part, and maybe TC if you want realism.

The new player on the block is Bricasti, who only make one product the M7 Reverb which is supposed to be amazing.

Now the snobby part, the reality is if you truly want the luscious verbs you hear on Roach or Rich albums or even what you hear on most music on the radio you are looking at reverbs in the $2000 - $4000 price range. Many will argue but any Lexicon unit below the PCM series or TC unit below the M-3000/4000 series do not even come close to this quality.

The only similarity in the MPX Lexicons or 200/300 series TC units is the brand name.

So what to do if you do not have this kind of cash??? Well there are some decent plug-ins (you will need some decient processing power on your computer) the CSR verbs are nice, Breverb, many Convolution verbs are not bad, as is the reverbs on the TC powercore (they are actually from a TC system 6000), but they are pricey, plus add in the powercore...

...or go used. Yesterday's PCM-70/90 will still blow any modern MPX series away, M-3000's used are in the $700 range...or as JKM mentioned, the Alesis Wedge is not a bad Lexicon substitute if you can live with the noise. I use one all the time live.

Just some opions,

Paul

Will try to look more into Bricasti..sound interesting...
Btw I can find the PCM-70 quite cheap for around 750 dollars here in Sweden.
I would probably prefer the PCM-90 verision which is newer, but a lot more expensive.
I will also look into CSR and Breverb as you did mention.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: November 25, 2008, 11:53:29 AM »
In theory I have never really understood why hardware should be better in then software,
I mean if it is only mathematical algorithms, why would not software sound as good ?

Also I Lexicon has released a software version of their "legendary algorithms"  called "Pantheon LE"
How does this really compare with the hardware versions ?

Eventide also have reverb plugins for the pro tools platform.

I only use impulse reverbs, also when when speak about software reverbs in general we should keep in mind
that "Halls of fame" which is a collection of impulse reverbs..was released quite recently..and it set a new standard
in software reverbs.  The only bad thing is that it consume a lot of cpu..but sounds very good.

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Sounds great Jim, will try to get these cds somehow.
And really nice that Steve Roach did help with the mastering.
thanks!
lest anyone get confused and not realize that immersion is joking, that would be steve philips.

Ah sorry :)
For me there is only one Steve! :)
But anyway you both did a great job as it seems :)

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