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Jeff Greinke have a new album out..I have not heard it yet..

He also did a soundtrack for the film "Oil and water" I can deeply recommend this film!
It is among the most mesmerizing audio visual experience I have seen... the bad thing is it is only 21 minutes long...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bandcamp
« on: November 16, 2013, 05:21:45 AM »
Bandcamp do the all file conversion.....the artist sends them wav files, at say 24bit @ 96k and they will convert it to the other formats.  AS to limiting the free format...thats is up to the artist.  From my experience usually all digital formats are available, though I have not check the Rich bandcamp site you maybe this is new.

I hop they atleast use the LAME codec, it is the only mp3 codec that is good. Can't feel good for a artist like Robert rich to know all people listen to low quality stream.
But I think this is a big problem, especially the younger generation now days only do streaming and they are getting used to crap quality.  Youtube, spotify etc
And spotify have been caught re encoding 128kbps mp3s to higher bitrates to sell for premium members.

I prefer mp3 then streaming, cause with mp3 I can also use ASIO in my mediaplayer. makes a huge difference.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bandcamp
« on: November 15, 2013, 08:07:20 PM »
I am just listening to the new Robert Rich album "Morphology" on bandcamp, thank you for offering it for free.
But I must say it does worry me how many percent will actually pay for the high quality version ?
How many people are aware that the free stream has very bad audio quality and does not represent the original ?
a 128kbps can't deliver the depth of lets say vbr or 320 kbps.  I also wonder what codec is used by bandcamp or if it is the artist
who does the mp3 encoding ?  Anyway, my point is the audio quality and especially for ambient music for the free streams are unlistenable
you can just scratch the service but not dig down into the depths of the sound.. also all higher frequencies are cut off almost.

if a arist offer the stream for free, I see no reason why they should limit the bitrate to 128 kbps CBR.

I'm glad that Bandcamp provides FLAC downloads for those that want really high quality. I personally don't find the Bandcamp streams to be that bad but they're definitely not the highest quality.

Note I am talking about the FREE streams that is provided on artists pages for free. they are 128kbps , and in my Trident HG3 speakers they sound horrible,  it is not hard for me to spot a 128kbps from a VbR encode, I also wonder what codec they use.

But in depends on the material of course, for instance mp3 have hard encoding transients faitfully, so if the music has a lot of transients it will be easier to hear the difference cause the mp3 format usually soften the transients.

I am also glad they provide FLAC, I would personally feel fooled otherwise If I pay for it and get only mp3. a 21 bit FLAC would be the best.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 14, 2013, 09:02:15 AM »
radio massacre international - The Clouds Of Titan

Klaus wiese is among the best, R.IP.
Nice to see his albums is still releasesed, he is still kind of unkown and underground even in ambient circles.
I thnk i Have all his albums in his massive discopgrahy, maybe a few missing..

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: My Music Studio in Progress!!!
« on: November 13, 2013, 06:40:28 PM »
Very sweet selection of equipment Immersion.

I did not know Trident made monitors but why not.  3 way is an excellent choice.  Lynx are great converts from what Ive read

Interesting that you went for the Dangerous controller and external AD/DA as opposed to an all in one box solution like Metric Halo or a Prism Orpheus.  I think you have gone the right way.  I use my Metric Halo ULN2 for DAW connectivity and their Pre amps and use external Lavry AD/DA conversion.

Mogami is the way to go!

Desk is very nice......low profile on the gear racks like a mastering desks.

I use an Eventide Eclipse so I have and idea of what your going to be hearing although with much more programming and sonic possibilities .

What pre amp will you use or mixing system?

Your signal chain is phenomenal, now all you need to do is acoustically treat your studio so that your beautiful gear can be heard accurately.

My Matrix 12 is very deep in programming and can be challenging mostly because of its age and depending on the day is a Matrix 9 or better a Matrix 11.  The voices can be switch off so its not that much of an issue when a voice chip is cranky.  The Matrix 12 / Xpander work best for me when I just dive in deep with no real sound in mind and start patching does help having used a modular synth before because programming The Matrix 12 / Xpander is modular minded under the hood.

Excited for you new sounding sonic explorations.....Look forward to hearing them.

This is the first monitor by TRIDENT,  it is a very good value monitor since it compare with monitors with twice of the price or more.
Yes I doubt after you have ha a 3-way design monitor you will ever go back to a traditional makes huge difference...
There is also a seprate amp for each element 3 amps in every monitor which makes the seperation of the sound even more clean.
The treble is crazy sensitive, and transients is extremely fast,  which make sound details very apprenent, they sound very big and wide too... and balanced...I am happy with my buy.

the Dangerous audio is a good value, they use a  Burr Brown which is supposed to be very good.  We will see in future, I might replace it with something from BURL...But I still find it very good monitor controller for critical listening.. it is made to not color the sound just represent it without color and 100% true..  The monitor controller is important part of the has the ability to make your monitors sound like completely new but they should not color the any shape or form.  I was not aware the PRISM had built in pre amp and monitor controller ..I guess it make a good still yet a rather expensive device..  Dangerous source is not that expensive, yet it has the dangerous audio sound quality without compromise. It does even sound better then their bigger brothers because it has a newer burr brown DAC.

Regarding Mogami, a lot of people seem to think cables does not matter, but I have been reading so many people saying that here a very big change..
if I spend so much other money on other equipment I will not let the cables come in the way.

Thank you the desk is made in Italy.  I am very happy with it, it is also comfortable to have the feet on the foot of the table...
There is a bigger model of this desk where you have more racks, but I think they will shadow the sweet spot of the monitors I do not want to be too high on the desk... I want to have it all quite low..

With a lot of research regarding eclipse, even though the algoritims in many cases are the same as in H8000FW most people on forums claim that it does not come near in sonic audio quality, and I have heard eclipse myself, it sound quite like a cheap version of H8000FW for regarding effects I did decide to not take the shortcut... I have been wanting to have this machine for a long time and I know I will got a lot of use of it.  I can do a lot of effects like these in the computer but eats up my computer it will be nice to have this unit to relieve the CPU, to relieve CPU is also a main reason why I want to buy more hardware racks... I have found that all effects or sounds/sytnhs that sounds of good quality eats a lot of cpu, lexicon PCM native is the only plugin I have that sound good and expensive without totally eating up the CPU.

As I did write about regarding pre amp Phoneix DRS-8 MKII... unless BURL is realing a rack pre amp soon...

LYNX Aurora is a good and classic converted that has been in top studios for many years, I got it very cheap, if I sell it I can get more then what I paid for it wihtout doubt , so yeah.. there is only a matter of time before I will upgrade it to something better... again maybe something from BURL audio, their B2 bomber converters are said to be best right now.

regarding Oberheim,  if you drive a soft synths thru a analog chain, or virital analog chain for me this synt can sound 100% analog,  you need quite extensive sound chain to manipulate the audio to make it sound expensive and analog for real..I crash my cpu constantly doing this. But most people just use a simple reverb or something on their synths then the difference between soft synth and a real oberheim will be very big of course.  But there is soo much plugs right now to analogize and saturate the signal, I use tube amp simulation, tape etc, especially tube amps can add very interesting "analog" harmonics which you do not find in a soft synth.  One other trick I use is to maximize transients in the sound, this make it sound more analog too, all use a lot of processing power of course that is why it is better to invest in hardware equipment.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: My Music Studio in Progress!!!
« on: November 13, 2013, 06:13:36 PM »
Thanks for sharing this, Immersion. Sometimes reading about other people's gear purchases and setups satisfies my desire to buy and explore my own new gear!

Keep us posted. Pictures, too.

Thanks, I definitely will!
I love gear...I love technology.. and the last years I have also saved up money which made it possible to realize my studio..

The most fundamental part that is missing in my studio now is a MIC pre amp and microphones.
But I would say a pre amp is the most important that now, so I can start to record guitars...

in future, I want to try to have as much from the company "BURL" as possible in my studio, cause BURL stuff is the best studio gear in the world right now.

Unfortunately they have no full size rack pre amp yet only a 500 series for there mothership. Right now I am looking at this one

It is a phoenix audio DRS 8 Pre amp. Soundpure did review this on very good results...
But I have a feeling BURL will release a mic pre amp soon..a new one... 

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Windows 8 and your music rig
« on: November 13, 2013, 06:35:54 AM »
Nice to hear!

I always thought Windows 8 felt noticeably faster in all regards... it's GUI is GPU accelerated, which is the main reason...
But the core is just doubt.  my DPC latency did better dramatically as I said...from win 7 to win 8.

about 10-20 times lower in windows 8.   about 4s, I had about  60-70 in Windows 7.

Yeah so say all you want about metro etc but they ahve done a good job optimizing the core in windows.

Also worth mention, the audio quality in windows 8 is better if you use direct sound, most people do not use ASIO when listening to music in itunes or in your music player.  However I still strongly recommend that you use a ASIO player such as xmplay.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New Lycia
« on: November 12, 2013, 06:28:55 PM »
consist of a lot of filler songs...but these songs below are 4.5 stars

Highlights: The Visitor || Quiet Moments ||Greenland

These songs are among the best songs they have ever done...
They remind me of some of the best songs on "The Burning Circle and Then Dust" album.
Well it has been a problem with Lycia that their albums have too many filler songs which make their album very

Definitely check out Droneworlds and Hortus Conclusus. I also recommend Chamber Music. The other ones are more hit-and-miss, though I'd definitely recommend the song Devotion from Dronefest.

I will check them out. I will try to download them, the free streams are 128 kbps constant bit rate and they sound very poor, all the upper range are not there etc.

I have decided the second mix and with lower volume level is the "Final" mix...
Also could the administrator move this thread to the "Forum Member Projects News and Promotion" section ? thanks.

What does all Apple fans think about the new mac pro.
it is a disaster if you ask me, they have choosen form instead of function.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: VST / Software Suggestions?
« on: November 10, 2013, 08:08:46 PM »
there is a new synth called Lush 101 by D16. I find this to sound absolutely mesmerizing .. it use a lot of cpu though in high quality all good sounding soft synths, and of most D16 plugins they really only shines in high quality mode.

I got it to work by using a different browser.

That lower mix was definitely better to me. Really solid track.

You should try some of my music on my Bancdamp page if you have the chance. I think you would probably enjoy my newer work. I'm actually about to release a new track.

Thank you for your opinion, I might reconsider which is the final mix then need to listen some more.  But yeah the second mix is cleaner less powerful and overwheling but in long term it might be. I played some really loud sounds in my headphones yesterday which made my ears kind of sore...usually take some day or few days before they feel good agai (  my ears are kind of sensitive to loud volume especially in headphones), that made me like the second mix more cause it is more "comfortable to listen to"

I will download your album(s) on bandcamp, any one in particular you recommend me to download ?

I just tried the link myself, it did work for me. Maybe try again ?

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / My Music Studio in Progress!!!
« on: November 10, 2013, 05:00:17 PM »
My studio is still in progress, and it is not finished yet, and I guess it never willl cause of upgrades etc.
If you have any suggestions I am very interested, I am always looking for improvements .

but this is what I have so far.

Studio Monitors
Trident HG3

Monitor Controller
Dangerous Audio Source

Lynx Aurora

AES PCIe card

Effect Processor
Eventide H8000FW (it has been paid will be received next week)

Working Desk
Zaor Idesk19 (the racks in the pictures is not mine)

Monitor stands
Towersonic TS 2 c TB (custom made for my HG3s)

Kemper AMP for guitars and bass

Only the highest quality cables in the world in my studio, imported from US to get the original cables.

My custom made guitar

Beyerdynamics DT880 PRO
Beyerdynamics DT1350
AKG  K 240studio

I use a novation MK II 61 right now for soft synths.
I have bought Oberheim Xpander and Oberheim OB12.
While the Oberheim Xpander did sound amazing it did sound better then any other synth for certain type of sounds
, but it was just too much of a pain to program it, the knobs where useless.  With sound processing I can get a satisfactory sound without
a xpander... I would not mind analog synth in future though.. but it is no in the no 1 in my priority

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Windows 8 and your music rig
« on: November 10, 2013, 03:46:02 PM »
windows 8 is great, I get better DPC Latencies then on Windows 7.  I have not tried windows 8.1 yet..

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: VST / Software Suggestions?
« on: November 10, 2013, 03:18:08 PM »
So now that my day job is finally calming down, It'll be time to start writing again, I'm looking to add a few pieces of software to my current rig in order to broaden my pallette of sounds a bit. So I guess I'm looking for suggestions on a few things:

Reverb VST:

I've been using the 'Perfect Space' convolution verb and a few others that come in the box with Sonar 8.  They can be tweaked for ambient quite easily, but I've been using them now for 5 years and I'm looking for something with a different sonic character.  I've also downloaded Audio Damage EOS, which is pretty cool, but it feels a bit like a one trick pony.  I'm looking for something really expansive, with long reverb tails, etc... any suggestions?  Maybe I'm missing a technique?

Soft Synths:
I use Sonar 8, and Windows 7 64 bit.  So obviously, I'd like to use something compatible.  I find Sonar 8 is good with most probgrams, tho on occasion it just doesn't like certain synths.

I have Omnisphere, I love it, but kind of tired of it at the moment, again, looking for something with a different character.  I find alot of the patches in Omnisphere are too huge sounding, it seems like they went a little crazy trying to give every patch this massive sound that takes up all frequencies from 20hz-20000hz, I often fix this with EQ, but I often find alot of the built in sounds unusable.

I'm trying to be fiscally responsible with this one, which will likely mean only buying one, large, versatile soft synth.  So I'm trying to decide between:
NI Komplete
Camel Audio Alchemy

Other suggestions?  <- I'm sure there are a tone of other options out there, I haven't been able to do a bunch of research on it, please offer suggestions!

I've realized that, using Omnisphere for the last year or so, that I'm more of a preset tweaker than a sound designer.  So something with usable presets would be nice.  This brings me on to my next question...

Can anyone suggest a good book or something on sound design? 

I have an immense respect for guys you can take a simple sine wave and use oscillators and such and turn it into a gorgeous soundscape.  Anyways... I'd like in on some of that.

As for reverb, I would prefer to use multiple reverbs , for instance I use toraverb and lexicon pcm native reverbed combined.  If you want the lexicon sound but with not such deep pockets... try RP verb..

Spectrasonics did aim to make the ultimate soft synth.  The main problem with specrasonics philosphy is that THEY want to do all the artistic choices for you.
If they would allow to add your own samples it would make a big difference... cause it is a good sounding synth with the filters and all..
I prefer the wave tabel design of Camel audio Alchemy, everything is easily and fast accessible, the whole interface is made for real time modulation...
Omnisphere with a wavetable interface similar to alchemy would be amazing..Alchemy does soudn thinner indeed.but in many cases their sound charchter can be desirable but it is not good for fat analog sounds.. but you can make it sound analog with the correct sound processing (like most synths).

regarding sound design, do not read any books... but try to read up some basic stuff on internet...and follow your own sense and instincts...and let your ears guide you.  Experiment with effects chains  and sound processing tools.   By and external effect unit...

I like ambient music that incorporates noisy elements, so I'm really liking this. The only flaw I can think of is that I do find it to be a bit too loud though.

I give you the second mix, with lower volume level, no peaks above 0 DB on this one. let me know which you like most.

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