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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 17, 2014, 05:14:40 PM »
Quote from: Cosmic Fabric
What's the difference between a person like you that claims to have ''little gear'' (clearly not true the pictures don't lie) and me and Extasis? Are you saying that you are better than us?

Mr. CCC (sorry for the nostalgically remembrance) and/or Fabric, why you are so much scared about who´s better? I´m pretty sure that anyone here knows and appreciate, that both of you guys (i think "Immersion" was the name of the other person, if he hasn´t changed his name like you meanwhile) are real specialists when it comes to gear and pro-audio judgements!

So, why you need all of this prove?

I hope it is OK to quote your speech and ask you back the same: "I just want a clear answer to those simple questions"…OK?

BTW: You are also invited to participate with all your knowledge to this thread:

I´m pretty sure that you´ve missed this thread by "several circumstances" and I´m really looking forward to hear your input there soon!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 14, 2014, 04:10:56 PM »
This whole "Chef" thing has got me into this thread because I intended to stay out of it for obvious reasons.

I have been a professional Chef for the last 27 years and I emphasis "professional" because I get paid to do this.   With all these opinions floating about here some real world facts about cooking are warranted.

1.  The only essential tool a cook needs is a sharp knife, preferable a good one about a $100 and should last many many years.

2. All that "equipment" you may have seen in commercial kitchens is there for one produce food for a lot of people in a short period of time.  Practically every fancy piece of equipment can be done with a good sharp knife if you know how but often a short cut is needed because time is critical and the doors open at 5pm and the show must commence. Hence the need for fancy equipment

3. Anything done in a commercial kitchen can be done in a home kitchen....granted you might not want to smoke pork butt in your house or have a veal stock simmering for 48 hours. 

4. The creative process is a team effort in a commercial kitchen.....I write the menu, source ingredients, look for interesting flavors that work well together or contrast each other etc....but it gets handed off to the station that will actually complete the dish so there is a constant need for excellent technique and often relearning.  Part of my job is that the cooks in the kitchen are exposed to these techniques so that they can do the job and we arrive at the completed dish together during the chaos and fury of a busy service

5. There are no real short cuts.....sort of contradicting myself here....what I mean is if you want to understand sauces you have to know the traditional mother sauce that came out of french cooking.  The principles learned allow one to be really creative or break the tradition and know why you are doing so.  Training is everything and then the creative expression follows.

6. You dont have to go to culinary school to be a good do have to work in several or often many different restaurants to get the real knowledge if you choose to work in this industry

7.The equipment in commercial kitchens is only a means to an end, the most important part is the creative human factor that will make the food taste delicious, look exciting and been full of nutrition to promote a healthy and energized life.

Great post!

Reminds me of some fantastic restaurants in my town. They don´t look "polished", rather minimal from outside but offer extraordinary food, while some others in opposite advertising their skills and offers with, lets say it more friendly, "esoteric" blabla. Sure, there is a market for it and those customers clearly believe in getting something better (for a better price too…lol). I bet, they would be really disappointed by hearing, that those special places are cooking the pasta just with water, using vegetables from the local market and - more worse - having cutlery by IKEA ;D

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 13, 2014, 11:24:04 AM »
I almost feel like he and Cosmic Fabric are coordinating with each other at times.

Thought the same some weeks ago when all this started but meanwhile I´m pretty sure it is coordinated….it´s just too obvious. When they hear something (in whatever thread, even mentioned as a side note) critical against their believes about "pro gear", I can almost count the minutes to one of them appearing in a personal fighting mode  ;D

But OK, as we all know, there is a name for it: Troll

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 02:38:51 PM »
Yep, this thread has indeed been de-railed, with my Jedi powers of thread posting, it may be better just to delete it altogether...

Yes I agree, and in context to your original quote, never forget:

Quote from: Ekstasis which is essence is produced by the gear itself

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 11:36:43 AM »
@Pete: I´m really sorry that the usual suspects once more destroy a thread because they can´t cope with an opinion I´ve shared! (but OK we know this already)

Quote from: Ekstasis which is essence is produced by the gear itself

I have read a lot of opinions in my life, but that is definitely one for my top 3!

Quote from: Ekstasis
Tomas opinion is that all gear sound the same , all EQs sound the same, all effects and compressors sound the same, gear does not matter in the hands of a true "master"  like thoma$ cause whetever gear he want to replicate he just need to open a window in his ableton live.  Respect goes both ways around,  I respect other artits gear, whatever you are satisfied with but there is really no need to piss on other peoples gear, and tell people that you have wasted money to buy good gear, in is childish and just a sign of jealously if not..

It really seems, from your past actings on Hypnos you still haven´t learned to communicate in an adult way.

:: Please quote me saying all EQ´s sound the same….TIP: don´t waste your time for a search, you won´t find something  ;D
:: No one here have told people to waste money for good gear….once more please quote someone!

Quote from: Ekstasis
but again if there was a way to hide thoma$ posts from this forum it would have at a totally different vibe, his arrogant macho style, laughing in people faces,  totally humiliating people but in an non-direct way to avoid himself to get banned

Look, the truth is, I´m paying 500$ per month to each moderator not to get banned! (luckily one mod I´m working in a collab, gives me 20% discount) if you had to pay this amount each month for posts like this I believe you would pay more attention to your words.

BTW: As you and the other "changing-the-name-member" share a very similar vision about music/gear, i can see a huge potential for a collaboration!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 10:40:35 AM »
Quote from: petekelly
Okay, Mister Fabric (or whatever your name is this week)


Quote from: Seren
I think you've missed the point of the original post....

Reading obviously can be an art itself.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Alesis Andromeda A6 FS
« on: September 11, 2014, 03:54:10 PM »
does the A6 have any kind of unofficial software editor controlled with midi? from what I have heard
it is kind of pain in the ass to program

Yes as we all know it's much easier to program a synth that has something like 70 knobs and just as many buttons with a large LCD screen on a computer with only a mouse.   ;D ;)


Oh yes indeed, those 70 knobs are just a pain in the ass….the designer of the A6 is obviously a complete idiot  ;D

But thanks god there is at last an "official hope" for Ekstasis to cope with this huge hardware problem:

Maybe people are worried we'll be offended if they have any comments other than pure praise, but that's not true. Not every new release can be everyone's favorite, we realize.

Good and very valid point indeed!

From my experience (as running another label) in today, it´s indeed the case that people like to be on the "safe side" when it comes to artists/music. Probably those listeners are mainly confused by the mass of new stuff available (+ it takes effort to explore it) so they use the comfortable path of what is known and respected on the market/media (discogs etc). For instance, some years ago, Mathias Grassow made a test and released several Ambient Music albums (in who he is well know with his recognizable style) through an pseudonym (which still isn´t unveiled) and it comes very clear that those "usual customers", usually buying all of his music, were´t be able to appreciate his music if it was released by another name. Ok, this isn´t really a surprising info, as other big names (even in pop business) have tested this pseudonym issue as well with the same result  ;D

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 11, 2014, 11:53:13 AM »
Pete: Great post!!!!

I agree 100%

It´s very nice to see such a refreshing post in the ocean of those tiring and endless "what´s best synth, converter, xxxx?" or similar threads like "praising high-end gear" (you definitely need to make good music of course!!!) usually appearing in most forums!



Klaus Wiese - Maquam (2014 Version)

The second Arc release "Maquam" is a magnum opus in the world of deep Ambient Music. The album includes 3 very long tracks, offering hypnotic expanding soundscapes and subtle rhythms leading to a mental Trance state.

:: Remastered by el culto with the main focus on correcting all errors (clicks, digital Dat-Sync error noises etc), often clearly audible in almost each original release. To preserve the unique, warm sound Klaus is known for, each track was treated using individual chains of analogue equipment only.

More info:

I too use headphones for everything (my studio is not the shape or size to use my speakers properly)...

There was a radio programme recently that explored the shift in radio listening from headphones to speakers, describing how people stepped away from purposeful, intense and personal listening to shared experience and doing other things such as eating - making the music a secondary element of the experience.

People even danced to it which they could not with the headsets.....

Back to subject - it can be hard to get things right, but I use the approach that I make it as good as I can on my headphones, then accept that it will generally sound different on every other sound source.

I use Grado SR 325's to record and mix, then Beyerdynamic DT931's to see how it might sound on hi-fi's, then on smaller sennheiser headphones for more general sound.....

Hi Seren,

thanks for your input!

Is there a link/stream to this radio program you´ve mentioned? Would be interesting to hear it!

Yeah, the adapting to other sound sources is always a bit problematic. When i´ve mixed on headphones only then (generally speaking) it sounded great on most other headphones but lacks then on speakers…visa versa  :o Probably here you have to find a compromise….Luckily I´ve managed now to find something completing each other.


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Any Genesis fans?
« on: August 18, 2014, 01:18:34 PM »
Quote from: Paul Vnuk (Ma Ja Le)

And I should mention that Gabriel's Passion is one of my top 2 favorite albums of all time!


What´s happening in the sub-bass of some tracks is just unbelievable.


Interesting! So, it means you do all your work just with headphones?

Yes, I haven't used speakers to monitor or mix since 2003. I've listened to music primarily on phones all my life and I've now adapted to using them all time. I know conventional wisdom says that 'you can't mix on phones', but (for me) I much prefer the whole headphone 'experience'.

Thanks for your reply! For about 1 year I´ve worked as well on headphones only. I do agree, the whole "experience" is quite impressive (very 3 dimensional feeling) but after a while I realized I had big troubles to judge what´s going on in the bass. At the beginning I´ve managed to adapt it by listening to reference material but it wasn´t very easy. When I switches back to speakers (including a subwoofer) it was kind of a revealing. But then I missed the "whole listening experience" my headphones provided and I wished to have these back on the speakers  ;D It´s clearly a big difference when it comes to "listening enjoyments" where I definitely prefer headphones. Meanwhile I found luckily a setup where my speakers are sounding very similar to my headphones so I can easily double-check if I´m on the right path.

BTW: Which model of headphones you are using?


Can't partake as I'm a 'headphone-ist', I shall have to take this to the European court of human rights :)

stamps feet and walks away...


Interesting! So, it means you do all your work just with headphones?


Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Now Reading, pt 2
« on: August 18, 2014, 11:25:54 AM »
Recently started reading  "The Circle" by Dave Eggers and it´s very promising so far. Probably not a second "1984", but I do like the topic especially in regard to today´s critical issues of collecting personal data.


I will give it another call here for some more contributions!


So Tomas...a week has passed......what was the purpose of this?  Did it answer anything for you?

Hey Julio,

I will explain more soon :-) Still in the middle of some additional tests.

BTW: Instead of fighting in other threads, particular this one would be something for my audiophile friends CCT / Ekstasis to participate and share their opinion. But nope….just silence!


I was under the impression, that it was high frequency loss that came with age / over-exposure to loud sound over time.

Not just an impression only but the truth  :)

On a side note:

I´ve noticed the most complains about technical issues of other music is coming from members clearly being newbie (with no references at all in music business). Of course, having enough money in today allows anyone to own the "right and respected gear" but unfortunately it needs a bit more than just owning or talking theoretical about it  ;D

Well put Tomas.....Im open to all sorts of opinions, hopefully they are humble especially online where you need to back off a fair bit compared to normal one on one dialogue. 

Gear means absolutely nothing when in the hands of a master.   Shall I bring up the master Samurai story with and inferior Katana sword in his hand and the poorly trainer opponent standing before him.  The sword does not matter. The picture is clear.

Im somewhat embarrassed that I have become involved in this silly bass debate, though it is good to see ambient musicians and ambient music lovers (thats pretty sexy) coming together in a single though diverse thread.

It´s not really a serious debate of some members here as you can see in the responses above. On the other hand, I really didn´t expect something different by this guys. They mainly enjoy and want to debate about "high-end" and whatever "mystical 7% enhancement in sound"…hey, we are talking here about Ambient music which mostly is based on an embedded and often blurred bed of sounds and tones  ;D I could understand it if we would talk here about music where separation and authentic issues are very critical (like music including electronic + classical instrumentations for instance like Johan Johansson). All those funny responses above reminds me very much of many posts @ Gearslutz  ;D

Most surprising, some are barking so quickly/loud in response as if there is a serious need to defense themselves!

On Topic: I´ve listened to the the track with my Main Speakers + Subwoofer and for me there aren´t any issue with the low end at all. The low end definitely is pushed a tiny bit in volume but nothing out of balance or sounding wrong.


On a side note:

I´ve noticed the most complains about technical issues of other music is coming from members clearly being newbie (with no references at all in music business). Of course, having enough money in today allows anyone to own the "right and respected gear" but unfortunately it needs a bit more than just owning or talking theoretical about it  ;D

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