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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Arturia - Prophet V
« on: December 04, 2014, 07:02:33 AM »
Hmm, weird. It didn't embed but at least it created a clickable link.

Mike: Don´t use "https" but starting the urls with "www." only, then it works on this forum.

Had this problem as well before and it drove me crazy...Maybe you can make a separate thread about it so people on this board are aware of it?!?

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Interstellar
« on: November 10, 2014, 06:26:00 AM »
Possibly my favorite work of his since The Thin Red Line.
Hearing this excites me. Thin Red Line is certainly my favourite from Zimmer as well.

+1 Here the same  :)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New David Sylvian, Steve Roach
« on: October 30, 2014, 01:14:32 PM »
El Culto - the "extreme" comment is about David Sylvian, not Steve Roach.

Sorry, I´ve misread the post. Thanks for the clarification!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New David Sylvian, Steve Roach
« on: October 28, 2014, 07:37:23 PM »
  Haven't heard it though but with his extreme experiments in sound these days I'm not getting my hopes up. 

What are your (sorry to quote you for this word) "extreme" hopes and expectations for this artist - once more the usual and well known deep Ambient from Roach?

Quote from: Ekstasis

I think it is funny say  classical music has more complex audio information then in ambient music.
Ambient can be as complex as audibly possible.

I think you completely misunderstood something…I´m not talking about "complex" at all!

"When it come to classical music with a lot (!) of dynamics there is a reason for this higher bit/sample rate rate, but when when it comes to Ambient I don´t know any music in this genre using the full dynamic making it worth at all to for the additional headroom nor a higher sampling rate."

I really don't know what to make of this, on one hand 24 bit makes more sense to me than higher sampling rates. While there are a lot of myths around, some of these are also on the technical side. The 'boffins' can tend to follow a lot of accepted wisdom regarding how we hear, without challenging this.

Reminds me of something:

Once I´ve spend hours on a track to find the right EQ settings in den lower mid range and with each new listening i´ve found new bothering frequencies/resonances. When coming back from a short coffee break, to finally confirm my last editing, I realized that the EQ was all the time bypassed…...

24 bit is definitely no placebo effect.. It is always frustrating to have to down sample to 16 bit.. When you  hear such drastic difference.. But it does also matter what music..  But especially with ambient music I hear a difference..  If I buy an digital flac album I would easily choose the 24 bit if there was a choice.

Many blind tests regarding 16 vs 24 bit have proved that peopled can´t hear a difference. In any case, when it comes to CD anything has to go down to 16 bit anyway. To hear a difference especially (!) in ambient music is a huge myth for me. When it come to classical music with a lot (!) of dynamics there is a reason for this higher bit/sample rate rate, but when when it comes to Ambient I don´t know any music in this genre using the full dynamic making it worth at all to for the additional headroom nor a higher sampling rate.

Are people really be able to hear a difference between 192kbit and 320kbit mp3?   ;D

But OK, it´s usual that those believers feel better if they can say they feel have the tools or special gear (the price for the additional investment in those cases needs an explanation too) or rendering options. I´m pretty sure, if I would offer 2 unnamed files for a blind testing concerning this issue, those people would avoid to be part of that test.


Old story, but just let people believe in this myth…there is clearly a market with huge money for it.

Congrats to the industry  ;D

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Sorry Pete Kelly....On Inspiration
« on: September 30, 2014, 12:45:43 PM »
Regarding 'blocks', I presume that the finishing of something is generally more the problem than the starting of something (?)

It is for me.....I have a music project that I thought was finished a year ago and was maturing so to speak.  Opened it up to see how its tasting only to discover it did not need more time but more work so Im currently throwing the kitchen sink at it.  Will it improve? Perhaps it was already all it could be.  And so it goes.

I agree with Julio that it can be harder to finish a project than to start one.  When you're at the project's beginning, there is a blank slate feeling that the project can be open to all kinds of possibilities.  When you reach the home stretch, what you've created before can start to narrow your options.  This isn't necessarily a bad thing, as for me it helps keep the project focused, so that it is not just a collection of random pieces.



Can´t agree more on this!

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Cans.....Whats on your head?
« on: September 19, 2014, 05:21:51 PM »
Being a DT 770 Pro (250 Ohm) user for many years, i was recently looking for a second headphone to double check mixes. So, I´ve ordered for a test:

:: Focal Spirit Pro

:: Shure SRH 940

The Focal looks very stable and HQ made but unfortunately it´s not an over-ear model. The ear-pressure of this closed HP is quite heavy and makes the wearing uncomfortable after 10 minutes already. Mid and high end are sounding very neutral to my ears but the bass definitely lacks power and definition. Spending an hour with this HP was enough to return it back.

The Shure is a closed over-ear model and very pleasant to wear (even for many hours). Though, it doesn´t look stable like the Focal and my DT…it feels more like a DJ HP with a lot of plastic and quite week in each day usage. In contrast to the Focal, the lower end is very precise and "full" sounding. The mids are VERY precise and easy to judge. So far so good if there wasn´t the high end…totally disappointing for me! Obviously there is (like on many speakers) an increasing made for the high end. When listening to jazz and especially classical music all sounds fake in this frequency region…violins are sounding like someone is cleaning a window (shrill and "plastic"). For spotting problems in the high end this HP might be a perfect solution but it can be very annoying for other purposes.

I´ve read here and there people complaining about the DT concerning the bass ("hyped") but when comparing it with this 2 models the DT is a real easing! Yes it pushes a tiny bit the bass but acoustic instruments (i.e cellos, violins) are sounding so real as they supposed to be. Another issue is the spatial issue..while the DT offers a "room" in the head the other tested models sounding just straight left-right.

I know, many people swear on AKG´s, but i never liked any of their models (construction, sound). BTW: My search was for an closed model only!

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Eventide UltraReverb
« on: September 18, 2014, 07:10:29 AM »
It does look good, and I assume sound good too - never had to consider an ilok - what are the problems?

The computer I will be using it on (if i buy it) will not be 'online' itself - could that be an issue?

Yes Seren it will be an issue.....for ilok to work it must be online so that your computer an the ilok license manager can be synced from the ilok website.  Its very straight forward but does require online connection.

Julio, are you 100% sure about this?

I do own some Play Libraries and just tested it offline (no I-net connection) and all works fine!  ???

ilock Driver Version =

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Eventide UltraReverb
« on: September 17, 2014, 07:31:49 PM »

Thanks for posting Julio and also to APK for the special price info!

Really have to look at it more in detail  8)


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 17, 2014, 05:14:40 PM »
Quote from: Cosmic Fabric
What's the difference between a person like you that claims to have ''little gear'' (clearly not true the pictures don't lie) and me and Extasis? Are you saying that you are better than us?

Mr. CCC (sorry for the nostalgically remembrance) and/or Fabric, why you are so much scared about who´s better? I´m pretty sure that anyone here knows and appreciate, that both of you guys (i think "Immersion" was the name of the other person, if he hasn´t changed his name like you meanwhile) are real specialists when it comes to gear and pro-audio judgements!

So, why you need all of this prove?

I hope it is OK to quote your speech and ask you back the same: "I just want a clear answer to those simple questions"…OK?

BTW: You are also invited to participate with all your knowledge to this thread:

I´m pretty sure that you´ve missed this thread by "several circumstances" and I´m really looking forward to hear your input there soon!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 14, 2014, 04:10:56 PM »
This whole "Chef" thing has got me into this thread because I intended to stay out of it for obvious reasons.

I have been a professional Chef for the last 27 years and I emphasis "professional" because I get paid to do this.   With all these opinions floating about here some real world facts about cooking are warranted.

1.  The only essential tool a cook needs is a sharp knife, preferable a good one about a $100 and should last many many years.

2. All that "equipment" you may have seen in commercial kitchens is there for one produce food for a lot of people in a short period of time.  Practically every fancy piece of equipment can be done with a good sharp knife if you know how but often a short cut is needed because time is critical and the doors open at 5pm and the show must commence. Hence the need for fancy equipment

3. Anything done in a commercial kitchen can be done in a home kitchen....granted you might not want to smoke pork butt in your house or have a veal stock simmering for 48 hours. 

4. The creative process is a team effort in a commercial kitchen.....I write the menu, source ingredients, look for interesting flavors that work well together or contrast each other etc....but it gets handed off to the station that will actually complete the dish so there is a constant need for excellent technique and often relearning.  Part of my job is that the cooks in the kitchen are exposed to these techniques so that they can do the job and we arrive at the completed dish together during the chaos and fury of a busy service

5. There are no real short cuts.....sort of contradicting myself here....what I mean is if you want to understand sauces you have to know the traditional mother sauce that came out of french cooking.  The principles learned allow one to be really creative or break the tradition and know why you are doing so.  Training is everything and then the creative expression follows.

6. You dont have to go to culinary school to be a good do have to work in several or often many different restaurants to get the real knowledge if you choose to work in this industry

7.The equipment in commercial kitchens is only a means to an end, the most important part is the creative human factor that will make the food taste delicious, look exciting and been full of nutrition to promote a healthy and energized life.

Great post!

Reminds me of some fantastic restaurants in my town. They don´t look "polished", rather minimal from outside but offer extraordinary food, while some others in opposite advertising their skills and offers with, lets say it more friendly, "esoteric" blabla. Sure, there is a market for it and those customers clearly believe in getting something better (for a better price too…lol). I bet, they would be really disappointed by hearing, that those special places are cooking the pasta just with water, using vegetables from the local market and - more worse - having cutlery by IKEA ;D

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 13, 2014, 11:24:04 AM »
I almost feel like he and Cosmic Fabric are coordinating with each other at times.

Thought the same some weeks ago when all this started but meanwhile I´m pretty sure it is coordinated….it´s just too obvious. When they hear something (in whatever thread, even mentioned as a side note) critical against their believes about "pro gear", I can almost count the minutes to one of them appearing in a personal fighting mode  ;D

But OK, as we all know, there is a name for it: Troll

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 02:38:51 PM »
Yep, this thread has indeed been de-railed, with my Jedi powers of thread posting, it may be better just to delete it altogether...

Yes I agree, and in context to your original quote, never forget:

Quote from: Ekstasis which is essence is produced by the gear itself

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 11:36:43 AM »
@Pete: I´m really sorry that the usual suspects once more destroy a thread because they can´t cope with an opinion I´ve shared! (but OK we know this already)

Quote from: Ekstasis which is essence is produced by the gear itself

I have read a lot of opinions in my life, but that is definitely one for my top 3!

Quote from: Ekstasis
Tomas opinion is that all gear sound the same , all EQs sound the same, all effects and compressors sound the same, gear does not matter in the hands of a true "master"  like thoma$ cause whetever gear he want to replicate he just need to open a window in his ableton live.  Respect goes both ways around,  I respect other artits gear, whatever you are satisfied with but there is really no need to piss on other peoples gear, and tell people that you have wasted money to buy good gear, in is childish and just a sign of jealously if not..

It really seems, from your past actings on Hypnos you still haven´t learned to communicate in an adult way.

:: Please quote me saying all EQ´s sound the same….TIP: don´t waste your time for a search, you won´t find something  ;D
:: No one here have told people to waste money for good gear….once more please quote someone!

Quote from: Ekstasis
but again if there was a way to hide thoma$ posts from this forum it would have at a totally different vibe, his arrogant macho style, laughing in people faces,  totally humiliating people but in an non-direct way to avoid himself to get banned

Look, the truth is, I´m paying 500$ per month to each moderator not to get banned! (luckily one mod I´m working in a collab, gives me 20% discount) if you had to pay this amount each month for posts like this I believe you would pay more attention to your words.

BTW: As you and the other "changing-the-name-member" share a very similar vision about music/gear, i can see a huge potential for a collaboration!

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: On Inspiration - Chuck Close quote
« on: September 12, 2014, 10:40:35 AM »
Quote from: petekelly
Okay, Mister Fabric (or whatever your name is this week)


Quote from: Seren
I think you've missed the point of the original post....

Reading obviously can be an art itself.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Alesis Andromeda A6 FS
« on: September 11, 2014, 03:54:10 PM »
does the A6 have any kind of unofficial software editor controlled with midi? from what I have heard
it is kind of pain in the ass to program

Yes as we all know it's much easier to program a synth that has something like 70 knobs and just as many buttons with a large LCD screen on a computer with only a mouse.   ;D ;)


Oh yes indeed, those 70 knobs are just a pain in the ass….the designer of the A6 is obviously a complete idiot  ;D

But thanks god there is at last an "official hope" for Ekstasis to cope with this huge hardware problem:

Maybe people are worried we'll be offended if they have any comments other than pure praise, but that's not true. Not every new release can be everyone's favorite, we realize.

Good and very valid point indeed!

From my experience (as running another label) in today, it´s indeed the case that people like to be on the "safe side" when it comes to artists/music. Probably those listeners are mainly confused by the mass of new stuff available (+ it takes effort to explore it) so they use the comfortable path of what is known and respected on the market/media (discogs etc). For instance, some years ago, Mathias Grassow made a test and released several Ambient Music albums (in who he is well know with his recognizable style) through an pseudonym (which still isn´t unveiled) and it comes very clear that those "usual customers", usually buying all of his music, were´t be able to appreciate his music if it was released by another name. Ok, this isn´t really a surprising info, as other big names (even in pop business) have tested this pseudonym issue as well with the same result  ;D

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