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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: How to delivery music? CDR vs FLAC download
« on: December 13, 2012, 04:22:40 PM »
ciao Tomas,

I agree, personally I have been critical with Bandcamp rules at  first glance, leaving it immediately!

for my (our) "niche" realm, all these "big" mainstream channels
are not too useful immo,
I experienced cdbaby and through it amazon/itunes... a flop.
By example have been almost impossible to agree the final price with cdbaby (mainly with his third parties digital distributors like amazon and itunes.
non accetable my side that itunes decide proces against my will!

Probably the real point is that I do not like intermediator and fee-makers.
and I enjoy to have a "direct" producer-to-consumer link ...
But technically, what do you think regarding my "individualistic" proposed flow ?


Hi Giorgio,

by reading your issues, the only thing what i can say is "do it yourself"!  :)

No doubt, this needs of course investigations and work from your part but in today there are so many programs on the market to build your own website including a shop for physical and digital music with Paypal option (for example Joomla or other CMS - Content Management Systems). Of course it needs a bit learning but you end up with freedom.

For i-tunes: For me this is the worst portal/service iīve ever experienced. I simply call their service "dictatorship" as you donīt have any control about ANYTHING. Also with the rest of Appleīs idea it goes like this: What they say or offer is seen as something like "divine" and all the disciple have to follow (or will by choice). I have some "outside" release where the labels decided to sell via i-tunes and when i see the reports by the end of the year it just makes my smile  ;D I prefer to deny an amount of payment worthy for a restaurant visit and not to be a slave of this sick system where only Apple wins and makes the rules.

Unfortunately a lot of artists are not critical enough about the "whole" or too innocent, especially newcomers, which into today wanting just quick, impressing and personal pleasing results ("wooow my music is now worldwide available").


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: How to delivery music? CDR vs FLAC download
« on: December 13, 2012, 02:54:59 PM »
For Bandcamp: I would be a bit more careful and critical for this service.

At the end itīs a company which need to earn money, although their fees are rather decent at the moment (!). But 2 points should be considered:

1. Depending on the business strategy of companies (especially those which offer at the beginning a rather attractive service) you can never be sure it will last for a long time.

2. This interacts with point 1 - if they decide to change rules more or less you have to except their rules (i.e increasing of fees) and - it in a way - it makes you dependent on their services (especially if you have created a fan base on this sites over the years which are then used to find your music only there).

Personally, I donīt like such dependencies when it comes to my music and I would always try to find a solution (even it needs more work) which leaves me the freedom of decisions. The experiences how a lot of these companies are working (and changing things after they have a lot of customers - see currently Facebook) makes me always critical even the "at the moment service" sounds great and rather attractive.


I once got the Historic Edition, but I quickly ripped it and sold it. Only a few tracks are really worth it, like "Schwanensee I".
Seems to me the philosophy behind those massive releases is to just release anything that was recorded by KS no matter how weak the content.
While I still hold KS in very high esteem for his timeless classics from the 70s and the occasional good album in later decades, I've become more critical towards him recently.
When I take a look at some more recent videos of live performances on youtube, I feel that he is a bit of a one trick pony and his music hasn't evolved at all... doing the same thing over and over again, the endless synth noodling, playing the same chords he has used for decades and randomly improvising a bit with his limited keyboard abilities. Sometimes it has its moments, but after a while it just gets dull.
It's nice for him that he still enjoys what he does and that there are still fans, but I have to say that - just like Tangerine Dream - KS' prime was in the 70s and he never really moved beyond that time.

Very good point of view. Of course a lot of hard core fans would like to kill you now for these words you have said (even for DT) but I totally agree on this - his time simply has passed. To be fair, in the 70īs this was rather "new and different" music but in general i never felt ever that his music had a long term value.

When i first heard the double album with Lisa Gerrard i honestly thought "what is this for a crap?" (and, before in a while APK appears here and trying to explain "you may have to get used to it..." - no need, thank you ;-))


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Hard Drive Clicking
« on: November 25, 2012, 06:51:52 AM »
Hi Julio,

sometimes random but there is a also a pattern given by the timer of the disc. It really depends on several factors (energy settings on the machine and the timer on the HD).

Problem appears with internal and external drives...on PC i could fix it through "QuietHDD" for BOTH, on Mac i use "hdamp" and this tool works for internal drives ONLY.

I will make it easy for anyone to understand this sound as most people canīt tell if its head parking or a serious problem ;-) I switched off "hdamp" on the mac and recorded the Click-Sound via internal mic into Hijack Pro (and normalized it). Its a Western Digital WD7500BPKT Scorpio Black 750 GB which is in the DVD slot (removed the DVD for having a 2nd internal HD)

This pattern repeats ALL the time....for other manufacturers the sound may differ a bit. As you can hear - and depending on personal preferences - it is either a very nice "meditation sound" to fall asleep OR to get so much annoyed to throw the computer out of the window (and you have finally only 1 "louder click" before silence)  ;D

PS: Here you can get the solution for Mac:

Works/Worked for me perfect on my current MBP and previous Mini


Not sure why this needs a warm up again here, if you have another thread about it already? Or you want to post this from now on in any new limited edition you will find posted on this forum?

But very briefly just for you  ;D Label decisions might not be the same as expectations from individuals.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Hard Drive Clicking
« on: November 23, 2012, 04:01:17 PM »
Hi there,

let me first complain a bit  ;D

There is no doubt I would very much enjoying to s... the person who had first the idea of non-customizing idle behavior for Hdīs or those which trying to make the life of customers difficult wanting to find a solution.

As iīm very sensitive to get the right HD for my laptop machines (Mac and Windows) this issue is a pain in the ass (and not neck). Most reasonable  2.5 HDīs having 7200rpm with 16Mb cache. As for this specifications arenīt a lot of options i bought this three:

For my Windows machines:

SEAGATE Momentus 7200.5

Western Digital WD7500BPKT Scorpio Black 750 GB

For my Mac i bought:

Hitachi Travelstar 0A72335

All of them have the same clicking problem!

For the Mac i found a solution by using "hdapm"

I have two Windows machines (XP and Win 7) and here i first tried to use the tools the manufactors offering....most of the tools arenīt updated and (more worse) you can get them only by direct by them or via some "detours". Of course (lol) non of those tools work for newer Hds, it seems they donīt want to give anymore users the option to change things.

I donīt want to discuss the issue of mechanical problems which can occur by this parking issue but to complain about this companies believing they had a good idea. I canīt believe anyone isnīt annoyed hearing this constant "click, click, click" in a rather silent environment. I can only think about 2 reasons why they do it:

1. We see our customers something like a sheep - they will get used to it

2. We do this, because in this case we can minimize problems if people donīt handle their HDs well (this parking position avoid loosing of data when for instance it falls)

Of course, option 2 is obviously the reason, but by reading customers reviews on Amazon Germany (or simply google it) there are A LOT of complains about this clicking issue...of course those companies have to take care about those stupid majority who think they can tweak a computer and if something bad happen to claim the manufactor, but not giving ANY option puts off any professionals too.

In any case, today i tried several workarounds and finally found a tool which did the job - even itīs not official supported for Win7 it WORKS perfectly!!!

Finally silence - I just increased in the Settings for AAM the DC value for running on battery to maximum too.


Everything and Nothing / Re: joe r
« on: November 13, 2012, 11:54:33 AM »
Yes I agree!

PS: I miss also Joe LP  ;D

Everything and Nothing / Re: External drive always running
« on: November 11, 2012, 11:56:47 AM »
Mike: Around 90,- Euro for 128GB here in Germany

It really depends on the system you are some cases it might be the best upgrade, yes - but in others not. Just for a system drive a SSD is for me not worth as it interacts only with behavior of programs/windows. I still canīt see such winning option for that - I (!) donīt care if Windows is there in 27 seconds or 60 seconds, same for program starts. When we talk about streaming (i.e. Libraries) then definitely i would say YES. But in this case 128GB is a joke - you need here at least 500GB or better 1TB....and when you looks at the prices of these SSD, I believe you will understand my point  ;)

"The assertion that the SSD won't help if you have a "messy" system doesn't make sense"

All i wanted to say is, that a lot of people think a SSD is in each case is like "magic". This is why i brought this example which worked in he past and now - if you donīt take care about your system and installed apps your system is slow even with a SSD.


Everything and Nothing / Re: External drive always running
« on: November 10, 2012, 02:58:36 PM »
Quote from: mgriffin
SSDs are great for installing your operating system, which makes the whole machine snappier and more responsive, because lots of files are read/written constantly while you work. Saving a few milliseconds in file retrieval time adds up, when you're talking system files. Shutdown/restart will be MUCH faster.

Iīm personally not very convinced by these arguments...for who is the speed of shutdown/restart really an issue? We talk here about seconds of differences. Compared to the price difference to an ordinary SATA HD.... ??? Also, if you have a messy system, a SSD doesnīt make it faster either.

If the prices would be on a similar range i would say YES, but getting a 128GB SSD (a joke anyway in terms of space) for this stupid prices IMO isnīt really reliable.


Everything and Nothing / Re: External drive always running
« on: November 08, 2012, 12:08:07 PM »
IMO the best is just to replace the HD and go for one of the "green" models - they definitely will go into sleep mode after a while...some companies (like Seagate) even allow to adjust the time when going to sleep via a tool.

Due to several requests we just added - apart form the video - a player with samples of the other tracks even there are only very few copies left.


Hope you have a few left over there, Tomas.
Just put in an order.


Thanks Anthony!

See now that I forgot to add the video in my post:


"Beyond the Veil" is the new album by Aestrata, a project based on the title of our most successful album - "Aestrata" by Tomas Weiss & Mathias Grassow. As we received a lot of responses for the old album (now repressed for the 2nd time), we decided to move the "Aestrata" title into a whole new project name. This project retains the same strong depths and feelings found on the 2009 album, specializing in vast atmospheres and complex harmonic layers. The project is particularly created for late night listening explorations, deep relaxation and personal reflections. "Beyond the Veil" and all upcoming "Aestrata" releases are limited to 100 copies only!

We have a preorder running for some days now where you also can find an info (updated several times per day) for remaining copies. Anyone who is interested in this edition, keep an eye on the update of available copies. While writing this post here, we have already only 25 copies left of the whole edition.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
« on: October 17, 2012, 10:51:27 AM »
For those interested in DSP-Quattro (a truly professional-level audio editor for Mac), there's a special deal on it for half off the usual $99.99 price, so you can get it for $49.99. This deal appears to be available today only:

Mike, did you use the program? If yes, how are your impressions on it? Iīm asking for a particular reason in regard to the issue of temporary copy when loading a file into it and editing it. Iīm used from Wavelab that it creates a virtual copy and donīt create another file what dsp unfortunately do by importing it via i-tunes.

Apart from this iīm very happy with it!


Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Dead Can Dance 2012
« on: October 12, 2012, 11:02:56 AM »
Tomas (your music is great btw), I think their music is such that it doesn't matter to a huge degree how they look when they play it live.  It's a little different IMO from guys about to turn 70 who are still playing the same rock 'n roll hits from 50 years ago and bouncing around on stage. 

They've both made a lot of relevant music since the 80's and 90's in their respective solo albums, collaborations and so on, so it's hard for me to begrudge them a reunion disc and tour, as this is most likely just that.  You're probably right they're doing this for the same reason every other band from previous decades with previous fame reunites. 

I don't think it'll hurt their cult status though, the fact that they're gonna sell a ton of music and concerts without essentially changing themselves or their sound tells me that.  They'd have to become skinhead nazis (Lisa Gerrard- highly suspect  :P) and sing only Britney Spears covers in order to ruin the nostalgia.

 Listening to a few of their new songs on youtube, I'm impressed that the quality is still good- Brendan's range has narrowed a tad but he can still croon, baby, and Lisa Gerrard can basically phone in those angelic notes without much problem.  The songwriting is pretty solid.  I'm not sure how relevant an album it is, in terms of their legacy, but at least they reunited with an actual album of quality music.  It's not bad music, regardless of whether I'd prefer a different direction. 

Tomas I'd agree that if they that just tour and keep singing their old classics indefinitely until there are no more crowds, it would hurt their rep... I just don't see that happening though.  There is one great song so far I've heard which is Children of the Sun.  This could have easily been the last song on the album (it was the first), a fitting and gracious goodbye, I mean that in the best sense.

Yep, i liked the track too and thanks for your words about the music :-)

I have to admit iīm a bit biased here. I saw Lisa perfoming live 2011 in Germany and the show was very disappointing. She changed the dressing 5 times (!!!) during the show and they also used an additional (HUGE) Reverb for her voice in almost each song. Of course this doesnīt really fit as the stage was just a medium theatre place. Also, which was the most annoying issue, one of her musician (keyboard player) was performing with no wires plugged in his synth  :o - so it was mainly a playback show with a fake performance. All of this was not really appreciating for me.

When i saw then one of the videos there is a similar issue...once she pretends to plays the Santuri but no sound....


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
« on: October 12, 2012, 10:50:30 AM »
It is/was entirely a workflow issue where wave lab vs sound forge is concerned. I actually will concede that wavelab is more powerful and I did like its effects chaining section, but at the end of the day I can just work quickly and effortlessly in SoundForge so I kept going back to it. I have used it since version 1.0 and spent the better part of the last 10 years as a sound designer for Sony Creative Software & Sonic Foundry before that so, again its a comfortably and workflow thing.

When I tried a demo of Peak for the Mac I found its interface and workflow just completely counterintuitive, clunky and just pain ugly. Again all personal preference, but there it is.


Yes i understand the issue of being used to a program for a long time...nevertheless i tried another program for Mac because they had very reasonable crosscrade prices. Finally they have as well the FX Chain section like in Wavelab and the app is very stable too :-)

Not as much tools like in Wavelab but extremely reasonable for the price:


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Finally... Sound Forge for Mac!
« on: October 05, 2012, 04:43:01 PM »
I have wabvelab for PC but hate the way it works and unfortunately there is nothing about Peak I ever liked either, its look, the way it functions, I always go back to soundforge even when that meant transferring files to and from the pc for editing.


I have both. May i ask what you hate about the way it works?

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Dead Can Dance 2012
« on: September 23, 2012, 01:35:55 PM »
Well, i canīt chorus the previous opinions when seeing some recent concert videos:

2-DEAD CAN DANCE-Θέατρο Γης-Θεσσαλονίκη -- ΠΡΕΖΑ ΟΤΑΝ ΠΙΕΙΣ - Video Dailymotion

-DEAD CAN DANCE- Θέατρο Γης-21. 09.12-Θεσσαλονίκη

Apart from the question why they had to make a rebirth of the project (money issues?) i do think they damage more of their cult than winning out of it. Wonder why they canīt be simply proud of their past things and leave it.

In a way it reminds of all this "senior rock bands" which believe itīs cool to make a revival  ;D Canīt cope seeing 60+ years of matures with guitars predicting to be young stars. Seems they donīt have good managers or those have other interests as well.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: 808 documentary
« on: September 19, 2012, 04:02:09 PM »
Seems the director of this video was on drugs  ;D

@APK: 303 isnīt really better, except you are looking for some farty

Everything and Nothing / Music by nerves
« on: September 10, 2012, 04:33:56 PM »
I do think, this may become a very interesting and important issue for artists which are interested to "reach" audience:

Of course, nothing for those which are still believing in musical visions like "individual creation (no matter how it sounds or not sounds) plus public access"  ;D


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