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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 27, 2011, 11:45:44 AM »
One of the best Rmx ever made.

Thanks for your words and the hint regarding the video option :D

I thought i wouldnīt response anymore, but this have to be answered

Actually you could cool down a bit too  ;)

If there's one thing I would change about this forum, it's the negative attitude.   

In German we say, for this we have to start first by ourself

Austere chimed in and then was accused of "faking" his "I-don't-care" attitude (GIVE ME A BREAK!).

If you have read the WHOLE conversation (did you?) then its more then clear that Austere reacted  - after Mikeīs statement/idea for clear names - like they are in a huff ("If that means we can't post here"). Nobody has said this or whatever before, so should i say here also "GIVE ME A BREAK"? I for myself expect a little more maturity, especially for someone with this kind of showen and declared "we want to be different" profile. And finally, they responsed to it in my direction and all was fine. I donīt think this topic needs further "warm ups" and also Austere is perfectly be able to response to other comments by themself if they feel there is something unfair said.

If you really see this comments as an "attack", then we donīt need anymore discussions and/or different opinions at all!

Like the 2 parts before - CDR

Hello to all,

our most successful album "Quiet calling 1" is available again in a new Digipak Edition.

Also available is the last and final chapter "Quiet Calling 3"

More info via:


Nobody has said anything about no more anonymous posting.

Even i am not a native speaker i understood this too.

Actually i find this guys a bit too much thin-skinned in regard to their expressed "we donīt care" coolness.

As the sub-heading says: "Music Reviews and Only Music Reviews."  Perhaps that should be respected.

I didnīt read "no comments allowed"

I'm afraid this reads more like over-the-top self promotion than a review !

I first thought i read an official press text for announcing a new release.

"Appearances", (CDr on Musical Philosophy label, download version via DataObscura) is the brand new follow-up to Tomas' & Anthony's premiere co-work "Distant Shadows" on the Construct label (released April 2011). This digipak release firstly attracts with its very nice cover image created by Jesse Harrison. The album, which consists of 10 pieces titled "Vision 1-10", begins with a shorter ethereal introduction that crosses almost unrecognized into "Vision 2" with the same mood, but later evolves into deeper drifting and tense configurations. "Vision 3" floats on similarly tight airwaves, but is gently enriched by assorted futuristic sound effects with a cascading texture. It slowly evolves into a massive soundwall effectively supported at the end by angelic choirs. An absolutely fascinating stratospheric odyssey!!! As magnificent is the next composition, "Vision 4", with deeply droning, free floating expansive and absorbing delicate soundscapes! Gradual tension unfolds "Vision 5", which slowly fades into rather motionless, but evolving dronescapes. Another highly mesmerizing composition heading into colossal territories and a pure masterpiece precisely interacting with album's cover artwork!!! Shorter "Vision 6" quickly returns into more organic worlds, enriched with hints of modern classical influences. "Vision 7" dives into abyssal depths of the ocean with deep, but evolving drones. The tension of this 12-minute opus gets tighter and tighter, enriched by circulating and pulsing hissy sound effects and sharply sounding industrial outbursts and disorders. At its highest peak it reaches massive soundwalls, painted with metallic and otherworldly transcendental sounds, presenting Tomas & Anthony at the throne of drone artistry. Pure bliss!!! "Vision 8" keeps the vast and intense magnificence of its predecessor, but is slightly more active with a less monumental texture, and at the end colored with razor sharp sonics. The next piece, "Vision 9", stays in rather quieter and static soundclouds, yet deeply drifting and layering into a massive palette of sounds. Grandiose, intense and powerful!!! Closing "Vision 10" is painted with more tranquil colors. A very relaxing and relieving outro of this highly fascinating and imaginative adventure. Definitely another huge one from Tomas Weiss & Anthony Paul Kerby!!! And be prepared for more, because these two guys have scheduled another co-work, this time between Anthony's Nunc Stans and Tomas' Nautic Depths (with Mathias Grassow). I think we couldn't ask for more.

Richard Gürtler (Oct 02, 2011, Bratislava, Slovakia)

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Omnisphere.....who's using it?
« on: October 06, 2011, 02:17:31 AM »
Things what has put me off:

- no standalone Version (the biggest joke!!!!)
- no import option of samples (wav, aiff)

Omnisphere has the same risk like Atmosphere...its very recognizable when you donīt radically change the presets. Just this fact put me off to buy quite a number of albums from several artists since they used Presets almost 1:1.....horror for me (LOL)

Alchemy is a good choice indeed and much more flexible because of wav import.



 Does this mean we should have no organization or categorization at all, and just have one big central area where everything gets posted?

Nah Mike, now you are black or white  ;)

I didnīt mean this at all. I just say, that i think people like to see and discuss things in a specific thread for a release (and again this doesnīt interact with the other post when people speak about other release which are NOT posted here). It seems logic for me that several threads talking about the same are just confusing and making things more messy. Is it not better people speaking/discussing in mainly 1 thread of a new Hypnos release instead of several posted in different sections?


Also the 2 gear forums as Forrest suggested could become one.....for me sound sources, pre amp or mixer, fx, monitors and cables are all part of the same long chain. I suppose a discussion of where to put microphones on a marimba could warrant being placed in a dedicated recording forum, not sure how much recording technique type discussions we have here.

I totally agree on this!


I see a huge difference between these, and I hate the idea of sincere inquiries and discussion about music from a listener's perspective being snowed-under by the much more common and frequent self-promotional posts. I'm trying in a sense to reward honest discussions from the fan or enthusiast's point of view by giving them their own space, apart from self-promotional announcements by artists and labels.

Why there cannot be a honest discussion in a thread someone posted as self promotion? This is more or less what you say and i disagree. IMO people donīt make a difference in this. Also, the scenario youīve mentioned will happen anyway since not all discussed music are made by members. In your example also Hypnos releases have to be discussed in the "other section".

I like the new direction of the forum, too, though I think may be a few too many topics at the moment.  I'm not sure I would break out Forum member music from non-Forum member music.  When artists hear that their music is being discussed and join the forum, the topic would be in the wrong place.   

Yes, i thought about this point as well and indeed from the perspective of a visitor not really comfortable to look what is the right place - also it messes up if a lets say, a forum member post something  (seen as self promotion) and maybe some days later another member start as well a topic about the same issue (seen as discussion)....very example Anthonyīpost:

Should be in "Self promotion section" . but what if "Richard" write a review? Obviously this review should be then placed by Richard in review the end itīs more complicated then before.


It may be possible that we've ended up creating too many sections, but it's easy enough to backtrack and trim one or two.

We needed an area for artists who have released on Hypnos to announce their non-Hypnos projects, so that we can have an area reserved for Hypnos releases only. You say those posts should go into the "other" section, but we will see. I think that section will have a lot of activity.

Yes, the activity there will be more there. I just think that most people at the end will not care about a section "Hypnos artist with releases outside of Hypnos" and those releases  of these artist might get lost at the end because people will likely go into the "other" section since they expect to find them there.

The easiest might be to ask all the Hypnos artist what they think!


IMO itīs now a bit messed up...

Hypnos Relateted activities - donīt understand the deeper purpose of this. When a Hypnos artist releases anywhere else, from my logic, this should be then in "Other ambient" section too. Otherwise you expect from people to know what are all the "Hypnos" artists. Beside from this aspect i believe this section will be finally stay quite empty - there is simply not much what can be added there.


We did have a chat feature years ago, in the PhpBB software version of the forum. It was glitchy and awful so I ended up removing it.

I'll consider trying one of the newer SMF forum chat plugins and see what people think.

I'll also look into media embedding, if it can be done without turning this place into a mess.

It sounds like these two things would satisfy most people's desires without transforming the forum into something unrecognizable, so we'll start there.

As far as my counting is not messes up, I havenīt seen so much people asking for chat  ;D ;D ;D

Donīt have an illusion...even with such info the prayers (artists and labels) for downloads will still remain no matter if logic or not

and here something about the "BIG" download thing and their "great" expansions and possibilities....LOL


Maybe I could have worded it little more artfully, but I think there is more of a danger of the artist's own selectivity (or, to be more blunt, posting only positive reviews) if the reviews are filtered through the artist first.  Who would want to post a negative review of their own work?


Reviews in general are also not a problem for me, but I think it can be tricky when posting reviews of your own work.  As a potential consumer, I'd rather hear from the listeners or reviewers directly.

I was reading this several times and still donīt understand it.

The usual progress is: reviews are made from 3rd persons like website, blogs magazines, it makes a difference for you if a customer or the reviewer post the same review instead of the artist?  ???

True, agree on this point!

On the other hand, critical reviewers are very care in today...actually i got a very "nice" response back after asking for sending demos. I will be "fair" and not mention the name here, even a lot of people know this person and the radio station behind but the answer was...yes, sent me your stuff, but i charge 10$ for each review...isnīt it a great answer? Just imagine what happened if iīve sent 30$?  ;D ;D

Useless to say itīs not worth to support this nonsense.

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