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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: What is Youtube to you?
« on: April 05, 2014, 07:42:14 AM »
Quote from: Altus


The old proverb "if you can't beat them, join them" works perfectly here. Your listeners love your music so much that they spend the time to build videos and share them with the world. If that isn't passion, I don't know what is. Treat it as word of mouth promotion, which IMO is the best kind.

If they ask the artist first, then itīs not a problem at all - and asking donīt need a lot of effort. The downside is, that an artists or label may have a specific aesthetically idea about the video and its quality, because a bad video can (in some degree) ruin the music also.

Quote from: Altus

The ultimate option is to beat them to the punch. Upload the music yourself and tag the shit out of it. Get listeners hitting your page instead of some random listener. Build a YouTube audience and show that you're not afraid to share an entire album. Be sure to remind them that if they enjoy the music, they can support you by purchasing it.

Thatīs exactly the way how i do it (except offering an entire album) and it works very well because of the direct link in the description. Also i report illegal videos to put them down…and it has a nice side effect because too many videos (of the same track) minimize the chance, that potential fans visiting my channel.

Some good points youīve mentioned here Altus!

Greetings,
Tomas

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: What is Youtube to you?
« on: April 04, 2014, 06:31:54 PM »
Yes Tomas....Im am wine drinker too, but Ive been watching some All Blacks Rugby history recently and some how wine just does work in that scenario, though New Zealand makes great wine so maybe. ;D

LOL  ;D

Havenīt tested any from them so far…..Actually, we have to ask APK - another wine specialist! NZ wines???

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Computers, Internet and Technology / Re: Laptop Cooling Pads
« on: April 04, 2014, 06:18:04 PM »
Hi Julio,

as heat goes up, i donīt think this will improve a lot….my Macbook was going to be very hot on the keyboard…now iīve installed 2x SSD (one by replacing the DVD) and the temperatures decreased massively. Though I have to say, Iīm using a 2012 model while all the 2011 (and previous) models do had this problems about heating on the button. So, this cooling pad may work for you, but I think you may can improve it even more by using an complete aluminum heatsink (no fan needed) + replacing the HD by an SSD.

Greetings,
Tomas

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: What is Youtube to you?
« on: April 04, 2014, 05:54:46 PM »
When we are done we'll all go down the pub and have a beer or two but in the interim this needs to run its course.

Being a wine drinker only i think Mike can close the thread right now  ;D

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: What is Youtube to you?
« on: April 04, 2014, 05:16:23 PM »
You know, I really think this thread should be closed because every time I check it there are personal attacks.  Take it off forum, I say...

I disagree, because a discussion including different opinions makes it more alive. Please tell me at last one personal attack written here!

I do believe this forum is not a Kindergarten place, so I think members can cope with other personal opinions.

Greetings,
Tomas

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: What is Youtube to you?
« on: April 04, 2014, 04:24:06 PM »
Quote from: ffcal

BTW, I think my Animism release is available for streaming from Bandcamp, but I am ambivalent about that because of potential for recording the stream.

You THINK???

You are complaining here about broken copyrights concerning yours and other music, but for a particular own release you even donīt know if it is available for stream? Thatsīs really odd IMO... What about having a clear knowledge concerning the legal availability of your music?

If you really donīt know ("i think") about that, then all the rest of what you said before makes it sounding for me like a pseudo-intellectual speech. And as I said before, so far unfortunately i havenīt heard any future based suggestions/ideas about your point concerning the "Youtube copyright issue".

Greetings,
Tomas

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: What is Youtube to you?
« on: April 04, 2014, 12:58:57 PM »
Chris:  "But I find it hard to accept your assumption that most record labels' interest in piracy has nothing to do with a concern for how piracy affects sales. "

I think you've ignored most what I've been trying to say.  What you said was a direct insult.  I'm done trying to explain it to you.

Forrest

Iīm really surprised about your response…i mean, Chris tried to explain what he meant and (even itīs a personal opinion) many things he said making sense for me (i.e. piracy vs sales affects). But you just jump on an "insult" you imply it was against you. Iīm not a native english speaker but from all Iīve read, i canīt see any direct insult. For me it seems you are currently quite stuck with your artist right fights but wonīt like to expand this discussion. All people responding in this thread agreed on protecting copyrights so far, but you still hang on it and constantly repeat this issue.

I have no idea why, but for me it feels more like a defense position than trying to find solution to cope with that issue, because right now I havenīt  heard ANY ideas/suggestions from you here to make things better….so far Iīve only heard moaning.

Greetings,
Tomas

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: What is Youtube to you?
« on: April 04, 2014, 03:44:15 AM »
Quote from: ffcal

I don't think you broke the law by posting the Youtube link to that album...

Clearly not!

The video is up since 13.09.2012 (!!!) with currently +/- 47000 views

If the artist/label (in more than 6 months) hasnīt done something against this full upload, then it seems heīs/theyīre fine with it for whatever reason. The argument "he/the label may havenīt seen it yet" wonīt work at all concerning Youtube.

Greetings,
Tomas

I think you're assuming a level of diligence that many artists, their heirs or their labels may not have and may not be inclined to exercise because the financial rewards are too small.  An artist's legal rights are not based on how effective they are playing "whack-a-mole."  If I were awarded statutory damages for tracking down my and Projekt's illegal album postings, I would gladly do it full-time.

Here's a hypothetical:  let's say you owned a summer cabin in the middle of Wyoming, but only had the time to visit it once every year or so and barely had the resources to maintain it.  A group of enterprising teenagers periodically broke into the cabin and made off with some of the cabin's belongings.  If it took you a year or two discover the theft, should that affect or not whether a crime was committed?  And in the case of your Youtube example, but does it make it any less wrong that more people were doing the same thing?  (In case you're wondering, I've never been a  believer in the wisdom of mobs.)

Forrest

 :D Forrest, you sound like iīm on the other "side" protecting those uploads…LOL

Itīs clear, that it is illegal and iīm not happy about it either. BUT, you can complain as much as you want about,
 it WILL NOT change anything about it that users are uploading copyright music on Youtube now and in the future.

So currently there are only 2 options for artists/labels:

1. Doing nothing about it
2. The artist and/or label gets active (yes, that takes effort and time)

I perfectly understand that you are pissed off by this issue (so I am) but your points are going in a circle now.

Greetings,
Tomas


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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: What is Youtube to you?
« on: April 03, 2014, 02:49:01 PM »
Quote from: ffcal

I don't think you broke the law by posting the Youtube link to that album...

Clearly not!

The video is up since 13.09.2012 (!!!) with currently +/- 47000 views

If the artist/label (in more than 6 months) hasnīt done something against this full upload, then it seems heīs/theyīre fine with it for whatever reason. The argument "he/the label may havenīt seen it yet" wonīt work at all concerning Youtube.

Greetings,
Tomas


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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: What is Youtube to you?
« on: March 31, 2014, 04:52:37 PM »
IMO the howling concerning copyright issue on Youtube is completely overrated in the discussion.

I have a Youtube account and for each new release I upload at last one music video (sometimes 2 videos). Each week I use the search on Youtube to check for possible illegal uploads. If somethings appears, I simply use the copyright complain form provided by Youtube - almost always the illegal content is deleted between 2-4 hours. So, the copyright concerns some are mentioning here seems to me like a "phantom complaining discussion" because everyone has clearly the option to control/sort out that matter by doing something actively.

Greetings,
Tomas

Yes, getting a copyrighted file off of Youtube is much more straightforward than it used to be.  But I think it points to a greater ethical issue about whether music has become devalued to the point where it viewed by many as a "free" commodity by default.  It is not simply a matter of complaining that the car is replacing the hose and buggy.  The so-called new business model leaves musicians and small labels out of the picture almost entirely, and companies like Pandora are actively seeking to cut what are already miniscule royalties any further.  This may not have any effect on people who offer their music for free, who are hobbyists or who already operate at a loss, but it certainly discourages throwing more good money after bad.

If that amounts to "howling," then I guess I am a wolf.

Forrest

For the new business model:

At the end of the day there are only 2 kind of listeners…those who can "live or feel the music" and are willing to support the artists and those who rip them off by just having "something new" in their collection. Finally, even all those rippers constantly do need new music (like a drug), but personally i don't think they will ever see and understand value in any music they can get in this way. For them itīs just a silly hobby to collect and build a library which has no meaning at all…anything they have is just replaceable and kind of "meaningless" in long terms…for me, those people arenīt be able to give value to music or art, because two weeks later they urgently need the next release (by artist x or y) which is then available…. and so on. Of course, the availability of illegal music for any artist is critical, but even so itīs also a question who "gets it" - those rippers have anything but also nothing because after some time they deeply understand inside that any of this stuff they own is just based on something like a repeating pattern "great i have it" - no matter how many music they will get by this illegal way, I strongly believe it won't make the person happy about their music collection - finally for them itīs just based on collector behaviors. So, I donīt think itīs really worth to spend any time analyzing those "listeners" who are looking for a musical quickie only :-D

Greetings ,
Tomas

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: What is Youtube to you?
« on: March 31, 2014, 01:28:18 PM »
IMO the howling concerning copyright issue on Youtube is completely overrated in the discussion.

I have a Youtube account and for each new release I upload at last one music video (sometimes 2 videos). Each week I use the search on Youtube to check for possible illegal uploads. If somethings appears, I simply use the copyright complain form provided by Youtube - almost always the illegal content is deleted between 2-4 hours. So, the copyright concerns some are mentioning here seems to me like a "phantom complaining discussion" because everyone has clearly the option to control/sort out that matter by doing something actively.

Greetings,
Tomas

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: blofeld, nord lead 3
« on: March 20, 2014, 04:35:55 AM »
If space is not a problem, I would suggest keeping the Nordlead for all the reasons Julio mentioned.

Alternatively try to sell the Nord and find a Nord Rack Version! I bought this over Key-Version because, as youīve realized too, of the very cheap Keyboard.

Greetings,
Tomas

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OBERHEIM FVS (Four Voice)


Glad I donīt have this one…you can create this sound with most freeware plugins…

Donīt understand the hype!

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: February 25, 2014, 03:40:16 PM »
Not a big fan of them, but this one is really good (expect from the kind of 90īs cheesy "trance" ending):

Coldplay - Midnight


better quality:

http://www.clipfish.de/musikvideos/video/4049099/coldplay-midnight/

Greetings,
Tomas

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: EQ Searching
« on: February 25, 2014, 02:54:35 PM »
I am pretty sure you mean the SurferEQ.

Nope, as i said there was a visual keyboard appearing in the plugin

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Klaus Wiese - Opal

AFAIK it was only available in very small quantities via Klausīwebsite and given to selected therapist he was in contact with - havenīt seen it offered second hand so far.

Very rich and slow evolving drones - peaceful and extremely meditative

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / EQ Searching
« on: February 25, 2014, 11:33:04 AM »
Hi there,

some time ago i read about a special EQ which had a visual Mini Keyboard included. As it had also a realtime spectrum analyzer it was a very handy feature to see problematic frequencies in notes.

Unfortunately i didmīt made a note about that plugin and now i canīt find it anymore  >:(

Anyone here who can help?

Greetings,
Tomas

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This is a great release... recommended.

Hi John,

i do understand that you want to support artist having an importance on your RM board. Being a bit political incorrect concerning "community actings", i think itīs a bit problematic and clashing with your position here as an administrator, who - in my opinion - should act much more unbiased (like APK and Mike). Just posting/responding (recently) on posts concerning artists related to RM leaves for me a strange smell. I wouldīt mentioning all of this, if i had seen you active on other (non RM related) reviews or post but unfortunately that wasnīt the case so far.

Greetings,
Tomas

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 10, 2014, 02:50:50 PM »
Thanks Tomas.

Any good recommendation in the 500 euros price range? 1000 it's a bit steep for a mic.


Really depends what you are looking for!

I assume a stereo mic makes a lot of sense when it comes for what you are planing to do. Also itīs about you "sound preference"…for instance, i donīt like at all micīs which have a boost in the top end (like Neumann and many others do, especially to give the signal more "shining") but prefer more a "warm/round" sound. If you are into this as well, then Oktava is a very good recommendation:

http://www.thomann.de/de/oktava_mk_102_msp2_silver_stereo_pair.htm

or

http://www.thomann.de/de/oktava_mk_012_20_black.htm

or

http://www.thomann.de/de/oktava_mk_102_stereo_pair_msp2_black.htm

Greetings,
Tomas


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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 10, 2014, 04:36:24 AM »
Quote from: Immersion


…. Behringer……. a better second hand value

 ;D ;D ;D

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