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Hypnos News and Announcements / Re: 2012 feedback? 2013 suggestions?
« on: December 19, 2012, 08:31:28 AM »
My only constructive suggestion is that there may be some value in releasing digital downloads in addition to physical CDs.

I think the secret sounds releases would be a particularly good testing ground for digital releases. A "pay what you want" model could produce unexpected interest that would feedback on itself to generate attention, new listeners, etc.

I think both of these ideas are great, I'm a physical media guy personally, but I will buy downloads of out of print albums if I have to.  Perhaps there would be value in digitally releasing out of print Hypnos albums?  Basically no up front cost...
(unless you already do that, I haven't really looked at the hypnos store for a little while...)

What about a modern portable music player?  I hate MP3's as much as the next guy, but I use my Ipod at work and for late night listening when I can't sleep, as much as I don't like the sound quality, I find the convenience of having my entire CD collection at my finger tips at all times is worth it.

In the rare case I get a CDR that won't play in a commercial cd player, I can still play it on my ipod, also that way the CD and case don't get damaged by transporting them around, and I won't lose it either.  I have some ultra limited editions of things (Less than 25 copies) and the main reason I bought an Ipod was because I didn't want them to leave my house.

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: " Darker" New Phobos album
« on: December 18, 2012, 02:22:29 PM »
I'm sensing an "ambient group hug" between Phobos and Broken Harbour, or a possible collaboration in the future?  ;D

I vote for this.

The hug or the collaboration?  ::)

"Darker" is dark enough that maybe he needs a hug?  :P

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Your Use of Reverb
« on: December 18, 2012, 12:50:32 PM »
Here's a question for you knowlegable types...

I'm currently working on a track for a compilation, I have the basic elements completed, synth patches mostly, no percussion elements.  When played back dry (no effects) it is missing something, a little flat, reverb gives it a nice, expansive sound, but it introduces a considerable amount of mud.  It almost sounds like 'First Light' from Immersion 3 by Steve Roach, while I like that album, it wasn't the sound I was going for.

I've tried eq'ing the source sounds, eq'ing the reverb, and I've run each sound source through multiple layers of small reverb, and also put one big reverb on a bus and run all tracks into it just to see what it sounds like. It still sounds a tad too muddy.

So my question is... how do you use reverb on your ambient-ish tunes? 

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: " Darker" New Phobos album
« on: December 18, 2012, 12:35:13 PM »
I'm sensing an "ambient group hug" between Phobos and Broken Harbour, or a possible collaboration in the future?  ;D

Haha, hey that review was online for a whole day and he hadn't tooted his own horn yet....

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: " Darker" New Phobos album
« on: December 18, 2012, 08:21:50 AM »
Review by Hypnagogue:

While Darker is dark, it’s not as dark as the name might imply. This is not grinding, crushing dark ambient, but it is without a doubt an hour spent fully cloaked in dense shadow. Phobos (aka David Thompson) escorts the listener through four long-form works, managing to create atmospheres that are equally as mind-salving as they are lightly unnerving. This is very much a headphone listen because you’ll want to soak up all the small details as Thompson pulls you inexorably down and in. The path starts early on in the half-hour-long “Seance,” with Thompson’s void-born drones welling up to surround you. This is not isolationist ambient per se; rather, it takes on the feel of willful dissociation as the sound drapes over you, alternating between thick, growling pads and the occasional distant howl of rising wind, and you agree to leave yourself behind. The amorphous, constantly folding washes of dark continue through “Descend” and “Hell’s Gate,” at which point Thompson opts to unleash a little discomfort on you. You’ve passed through his veil of shadow, slipped between worlds, and your reward is a gnashing, edge-of-industrial snarl of sound, the darkest space you’ll encounter on Darker. As the track moves forward, the sound tempers toward a softer edge without quite leaving the unnerving sense behind. It’s meant to deposit you into the last part of the journey, “Decomposing Lust.” As befits a well-planned excursion, Thompson arcs the sound upward toward the light here, his deeper sounds rising in tone and feel, stopping just short of the ever-popular angelic choir pads–but still coming off soft and warm enough to relieve forty minutes of sonic tension. Don’t get too comfy, though–in the closing moments there’s just enough dissonance slipped in to leave you with a touch of worry.
Darker perfectly skirts the border of dark ambient, evoking a lot of the same visceral responses without resorting to the ultra-heavy, cloying assaults of sound that often typify the genre. This is more like ambient music with the brightness turned down. There are no harsh edges save for the beginning of “Hell’s Gate”; the effect it has on is eked out of your own darkness rather than being thrust upon you. I like it for the fact that it’s oddly comforting in its discomfort, which is a tricky thing to balance. I’ve had this disc on repeat for several hours, just letting the sounds find my own shadowy nooks and reveling in what comes out of them as a result.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: December 18, 2012, 08:20:36 AM »
Steve Roach/Roger King-Dust to Dust.  My fave track is still "The Ribbon Rails of Promise", but the whole thing is excellent.  Ambient western music;

Totally his most underrated record, I listened to it while driving across alberta this summer, it was the perfect companion to the wide open spaces I was admiring through the car windows.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: December 17, 2012, 11:32:23 AM »
Broken Harbour - The Geometry of Shadows

A superb release and highly recommended!

Thanks!  8)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Slow Shipping to the UK
« on: December 11, 2012, 04:09:35 PM »
Am I the only that seems to have problems shipping to the UK?  I've been getting a few complaints / heads up emails about CD's taking up to 6 weeks to arrive in the UK.  Many haven't arrived at all and I have to re-ship the order.  I used to have orders arrive in the UK with a week or two, but lately it's been really bad.  I've probably replaced 6-7 orders for customers already, wondering if it's just me....

Bert of Sonic Immersion posted his review the other day:

Thanks Bert!

Hypnos is now carrying the album, as well as my previous release 'Gramophone Transmissions'.  Buying from Mike and Lena would be a great way to save on shipping if you combine your orders with their other offerings.

^ Wow, I really liked that.  Thank you.

*Adds another CD to 'list o' CD's I can't afford right now'...*

more importantly a mind control medium for the powers that be, which is why I don't watch it any longer.  It's a very subtle form of mind control (sometimes not so subtle, also).

+1, Especially news outlets like CNN, Fox, etc....

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: November 13, 2012, 12:32:51 PM »
Been spinning Phobo's 'Darker', and Stormloop's 'Nocturnal Winter' this weekend.  Good stuff!

Also re-listened to Steve Roach's 'Back to Life' this morning, I think it's one of his best.  Certainly a contender for Ambient album of the year.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: VST / Software Suggestions?
« on: November 10, 2012, 03:15:44 PM »
Komplete is certainly not "one, large, versatile soft synth", it is a whole load of remarkable things.
If it's on sale it is way more instruments and versatility than Alchemy.

True, it's more a collection of instruments.  I sort of just look at it as a single large keyboardy thing to play with....  ;D

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: VST / Software Suggestions?
« on: November 10, 2012, 08:15:29 AM »
Incidentally, Second hand NI licences are regularly sold (quite legit) on KVR and there's some great deals there compared to the retail prices.

I did not know that.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / VST / Software Suggestions?
« on: November 09, 2012, 02:21:12 PM »
So now that my day job is finally calming down, It'll be time to start writing again, I'm looking to add a few pieces of software to my current rig in order to broaden my pallette of sounds a bit. So I guess I'm looking for suggestions on a few things:

Reverb VST:

I've been using the 'Perfect Space' convolution verb and a few others that come in the box with Sonar 8.  They can be tweaked for ambient quite easily, but I've been using them now for 5 years and I'm looking for something with a different sonic character.  I've also downloaded Audio Damage EOS, which is pretty cool, but it feels a bit like a one trick pony.  I'm looking for something really expansive, with long reverb tails, etc... any suggestions?  Maybe I'm missing a technique?

Soft Synths:
I use Sonar 8, and Windows 7 64 bit.  So obviously, I'd like to use something compatible.  I find Sonar 8 is good with most probgrams, tho on occasion it just doesn't like certain synths.

I have Omnisphere, I love it, but kind of tired of it at the moment, again, looking for something with a different character.  I find alot of the patches in Omnisphere are too huge sounding, it seems like they went a little crazy trying to give every patch this massive sound that takes up all frequencies from 20hz-20000hz, I often fix this with EQ, but I often find alot of the built in sounds unusable.

I'm trying to be fiscally responsible with this one, which will likely mean only buying one, large, versatile soft synth.  So I'm trying to decide between:
NI Komplete
Camel Audio Alchemy

Other suggestions?  <- I'm sure there are a tone of other options out there, I haven't been able to do a bunch of research on it, please offer suggestions!

I've realized that, using Omnisphere for the last year or so, that I'm more of a preset tweaker than a sound designer.  So something with usable presets would be nice.  This brings me on to my next question...

Can anyone suggest a good book or something on sound design? 

I have an immense respect for guys you can take a simple sine wave and use oscillators and such and turn it into a gorgeous soundscape.  Anyways... I'd like in on some of that.

I think it depends on the artist, I'm lucky to sell even 100 copies of anything,  Self financing a CDR release is a not-insignificant investment on the artists part, on top of that, I've noticed that more and more people are buying downloads of my records vs the CDR version.  That's partly why I'm limiting 'The Geometry of Shadows' to 100 copies this time around.  I'll likely not repress my 1st record once that sells out too. (I've already repressed it once.)

But I admit, when Steven Wilson limits a Bass Communion release or something to less than 1000 and it sells out in less than 24 hours it does tick me off a little bit. I can see it from both the Artist and Fan points of view.

That's actually what I love about Steve Roach, he keeps nearly all his albums in print, so if I discover a gem by him 25 years after it's released, I'm not limited to itunes.

First review that I've seen so far, courtesy of John @ Hypnagogue.

Thanks John!

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: " Darker" New Phobos album
« on: November 08, 2012, 09:11:59 AM »
Gave this a good listen last night, after dark.

Gave me the heebie jeebies, great work! Loved it.

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