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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Reverb Plugin Sound Demos
« on: February 18, 2014, 07:03:18 AM »
Sure we all love soundcloud cause it is fast and easy to share links, but Also I would be careful to judge a test done from Soundcloud the sound quality is not representative.

Hi Immersion, the possible audio degradation from sound cloud processing happened to all files so it does not invalidate the test or better put the "experience".  This is definitely not scientific.  Perhaps different sounds like piano or vocals would be more telling but I mostly use synths.

After some thought, well days of thinking my personal favorites are the R2, TSAR 1 & Lexicon Random Hall.  Still need to track down which Reverb lends itself best for that "Lost in Space" sound. 

Heres a long gearslutz thread where the designers of LexiconPCM native, Exponential Audio & Valhalla talk about their verbs.  The link drops you in at page 14 where it starts to get interesting  http://www.gearslutz.com/board/music-computers/717515-2012-best-reverb-plug-ins-until-now-14.html

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Reverb Plugin Sound Demos
« on: February 17, 2014, 04:12:59 PM »
After the thread I started on other options than my Eventide Eclipse the software comments got me curious so I downloaded these demos to hear whats happening in the plugin world.  At this point Ive been listing for several days and I have not formed an opinion about any preference one over the other.  They are all good!

To keep it as even a playing filed as possible I used factory patches for Medium Hall or as close to what was available.  Only tweaking I did was to low the output from the plugin on a few as they were too loud compared to the majority . The graphics are not the actual setting I used just pictures I found on the web.

An interesting note is that the algorithm designer for the Exponential Audio Plugins R2 & Phoenix Revreb is the same man who designed the Lexicon Hardware PCM96 & PCM Native Reverbs...Michael Carnes.

Lexicon, the company impressed me as the demo of the PCM Native plugins expired before my iLok 2 arrived. In a day they had deposited a new 3 month trial to my iLok account.

The Verb I found most intuitive was the Softubes TSAR 1...very easy to get what I wanted quickly and with not much tweaking.....the opposite would be Aether, way to many parameters and not easy to see whereas the Sonnox verb is deep but makes more sense when editing IMHO.

All reverbs have some sort of tone shaping / eq but none have the scope that the Sonnox Reverb offers...handles like a scaled down Sonnox Eq.  I found it very handy for shaping.  Sure you can drop in Eq plugin before a reverb but this is all in one and cuts down on cpu usage.

Most  plugins did not work the cpu much on my 17" Macbook Pro 2.4 ghz Intel i7 with 8gb ram, except the Relab LX480.  Its a liitle bit more hungry then the others.

Ive left out alot but these are some of the best I found after a good deal of researching.

The patch from the Matrix 12 is an evolving buzzy 1 minute recording completely dry with no eq, compression or limiting.  Personally I can't stand listing to the patch anymore after days of auditioning...going to delete the thing from the synth ;D.  The patch does show off the verbs well as its quite dynamic.  The recording is 44.1k @ 16 bits

All demos are ilok based except Aether & the Valhalla verbs which cut out after 45 seconds.

Please suggest plugins you think should be included.

The differences are subtle so careful auditioning with headphones recommended.

Enjoy

Added a Guitar Recording kindly provided By Pete Kelly / Igneous Flame....http://www.luminasounds.com

Same preset was used as on the Synth patch except I change the wet dry mix to 60% wet as most plugins washed out the guitar at around 100% which the Synths mix level is set at.



Oberheim Matrix 12 Dry Patch
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/oberheim-matrix-12-dry-patch[/soundcloud]

Guitar Dry
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/dry-guitar[/soundcloud]



Synth
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/2c-aether-medium-hall[/soundcloud]
Guitar
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/c-aether-medium-hall-60-wet[/soundcloud]






Synth
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/eventide-2016-stereo-room[/soundcloud]
Guitar
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/eventide-2016-medium-hall-60-1[/soundcloud]







Synth
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/relad-dev-lx480-complete[/soundcloud]
Guitar
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/relab-lx480-medium-hall-60-wet[/soundcloud]







Synth
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/softube-tsar-1[/soundcloud]
Guitar
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/softube-tsar-1-medium-hall-60[/soundcloud]







Synth
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/exponential-audio-reverb[/soundcloud]
Guitar
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/exponetial-audio-phoenix-1[/soundcloud]








Synth
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/expoential-audio-r2-medium[/soundcloud]
Guitar
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/exponetial-audio-r2-medium-1[/soundcloud]






Synth
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/uvi-sparkverb-medium-hall[/soundcloud]
Guitar
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/uvi-sparkverb-medium-hall-60-1[/soundcloud]




Synth
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/valhallaroom-medium-hall[/soundcloud]
Guitar
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/valhalla-room-medium-hall-60[/soundcloud]





Synth
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/valhalla-vintage-verb-random[/soundcloud]
Guitar
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/valhalla-vintage-medium-hall-1[/soundcloud]





Synth
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/lexicon-pcm-native-random-hall[/soundcloud]
Guitar
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/lexicon-random-medium-hall-60[/soundcloud]





Synth
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/lexicon-pcm-native-random-hall[/soundcloud]
Guitar
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/lexicon-hall-medium-hall-60[/soundcloud]






Synth
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/sonnox-reverb-hall-full[/soundcloud]
Guitar
[soundcloud]https://soundcloud.com/digitalvoices/sonnox-oxford-reverb-medium[/soundcloud]

Here is a link to the Synth reverb demo wav files for those who wish to load them up in their daws for closer auditioning.....https://www.dropbox.com/sh/osj98tu6mv4xcnq/dC7C_gjBSQ

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Do you get the same sound in your headphones when connected to the same source  that drives the monitors....if yes then its not the monitors.  As Loren said change the cables or change the monitors if you have some older ones around.

Also look to all the sample rates between various device...I have a feeling it could be something get restricted.  I have had issues with devices not communicating correctly that has created similar problems easily resolved.

Is this brittle distortion coming from just one or both monitors...you say one but you show both in the video

It is a real pain and frustrating because you have to do all this detective work...pull everything apart and re-patch it all and pull some hair out and maybe send it out for repairs when it could be a simple thing you over look or did not know you needed to even look....I have done just this.

Hoping for a simple fix!

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: February 08, 2014, 01:00:57 PM »
Are the 2 Waldorfs necessary as both use the same wavetables and the Q has the virtual analog.....I had a micro Q a while back and loved the wavetables.  Maybe a Virus TI instead of the XT.  A different flavour of waves.  Just a thought.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Good software EQs
« on: February 07, 2014, 08:20:44 AM »
Yes Anthony.....understood the possible budget limitations, that aside Im hoping others will chime in regardless of that so we can learn and see what is being used.....curious also to see what people consider mastering quality EQ's as you have already mentioned. 

PSP Neon is one that I have and use  mostly across the stereo master bus (plus compression) to get a sense of the mix before the project is sent out to be mastered.  Definitely a very good ITB mastering EQ.  Great for tracking but it does work the cpu a bit too much to use multiple instances.


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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Good software EQs
« on: February 07, 2014, 05:55:34 AM »
I do find the Sonnox overpriced, and am not keen on iLoc. Plus too much room given to knobs vs the curve screen for my taste. Also, I don't think it has a Mid/Side option.

The Oxford Eq was born as a digital equalizer in the Sony OXF R3 digital console.  Picture below shows the equalizer on the right and Compressor on the left.  I believe the plugin interface was not just a copy of the hardware original but was chosen for the daw world because engineers like knobs more than screens....of course this may have changed.  The Sonnox Eq apparent short coming you mention have nothing to do with the sonic excellences this equalizer delivers and it is one I use everyday. YMMV



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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Good software EQs
« on: February 06, 2014, 06:51:50 AM »
My two main eq's are Logic's Channel Eq and Sonnox Oxford Eq.  Logics Channel Eq wont help you much as you need Logic to use.  The Sonnox Oxford Eq is worth looking at as is all of the Sonnox plugins.  I like the way the Oxford eq cuts and when I need to boost it does it in just the right way to my ears.


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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Help me finishing my ambient setup :)
« on: January 31, 2014, 07:23:05 AM »
Often people put together their signal chain starting at the instrument which of course is very important and work back to the monitors, which are imho the most important and you have mention 3 excellent monitors......so thats a great start.  These monitors are expensive but will outlast your other gear so in one sense they are a good investment which is something rare in audio gear.  Then with monitors of choice in place do your best to acoustically treat your room so you can really hear your sound. 

Enjoy the fun of creating.

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 31, 2014, 07:01:32 AM »
Thanks for the link Dave

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 30, 2014, 07:11:50 AM »
Benoît Pioulard - Hymnal Remixes - still playing this one cuz it's so good.

Thanks for mentioning this one....real enjoying the soundcloud samples.  Think its out on Kranky? Ordering  :)

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Heres a little video on the Bunnahbhain 18...sounds closer to what you describe Thirdsystem



Picture of my current dram.....Auchentoshan 12, could be one of my favorites when no peat is desired, certainly up there with the Aberlour 16 and at a price point that will make me go back for more


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I was very fond of the TC Electronics VSS3 Reverb I had on a Powercore card in a now deceased G5.....always had my eye on TC 4000 as this has that algorithm and the VSS4 plus more in it.

This was my concern with the Fireworx that it might be limited regarding each patch though I have found limits are often a good thing.....is it tricky to patch the firefox with the relatively small screen?

Seren this is taken from the TC Fireworx website....not sure if it answers you question.  http://www.tcelectronic.com/fireworx/

Routing Blocks
Setting up effects-algorithm blocks in the FireworX Routing matrix is extremely easy. With a double click on the effect block panel buttons, you insert the effect type chosen with the Value wheel. You can change the order of the effects, repeat certain blocks, add feedback loops and even insert an external device. Choosing an effect block and pushing Enter will bring up the Sub Routing I/O page of the chosen block. You can decide on where the chosen effect will get its fuel from and where to route the power. This way you have exactly the same flexibility in connecting the effects as if you had a couple of external effects-machines and a patch-bay.

The Stargate sounds very good and different.....is it in production today?

Im enjoying checking out the software contributions to this thread......thanks everyone




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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 29, 2014, 06:16:00 AM »

I saw them during their "Permanent Waves" tour way back in 1980.  I remember being really impressed with Neil Peart's drumming--a perpetual motion machine.

Forrest

Thats when I first saw them.....Permanent Waves Tour, Hammersmith Odean, London.  As a inexperienced teenage drummer back then the show was a life changing experience for me. 

We are going to need a separate Rush thread shortly.....


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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 27, 2014, 08:46:05 PM »
Been on a Rush revisit these last few days.....it was this song that I remember understanding the power of a synth...Vast Moog leads and deep rich Oberhiem chords. It was after this album I lost touch with the group as they followed a different path and I had followed them from Hemispheres.....time to see what I missed!


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Hi Thirdsystem.....from what you say I take it you are or were in the distillery business, or better put craft. Actually Im coming to appreciate it as an art.

Went for the Bunnahabhain 12....no sherry oak, very pale like the Ardbeg 10.  Love the nose, found the taste a tad underwhelming.  Took it back and trade it for the Auchentoshan 12.  It is everything you said.....Im not accustomed to some much presence in a whiskey that as you suggested would be light.  It is so but not faint of heart.....mandarin, on that second inhale...oh yes, and candy toffee.

Its strange to be able to take back something you have committed to in ones purchases....Im not entirely comfortable with it....someone has to suck it up, most likely me when I go for a tasting and a good portion is what I returned. ;D :o  Still they keep telling me if you dont like it....whats a poor boy to do?

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iPad Daw Control
« on: January 27, 2014, 07:40:10 AM »
Just a heads up as Ive now been working with this on my iPad controlling Logic Pro for a few days......Wow.  I have been using a Presonus Faderport for several years now and it was very useful but this takes it to a whole new level.

The V-Window calls up whatever is on your screen so if you have a plugin you can adjust eq, compression etc with your finger on the screen.  Its really very accurate.

The app works with pretty much with all Daw software including Final Cut, 5,6 & 7

As apps go its a bit pricey...$49, but the equivalent hardware box would cost 10x more.

Syncing Wifi seems a bit shaky but I think thats just me trying to establish the proper setup.

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Thanks Castleview & Paul for you recommendations.....I sensed that verbs and Fx had gone soft and become comparable to hardware and that there was not a great deal more hardware units than what I knew of.....Briscanti was the most recent box to come along in recent years an its priced beyond my reach.  :(

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Just curious as to what others use and or recommend in a hardware box.  Not opposed to software options but currently us no software verbs.  I do like this box a lot....very good reverb, though I image not quite as good as top of the line boxes from Lexicon and TC electronics.  I also like the more unusual "Black Hole" type fx in the box.

Other than its big brothers the H7600 & H8000 which are too deep for my needs is there something else out there?

Thanks

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Mixing tips.
« on: January 25, 2014, 05:51:22 AM »
Must be my early love of all things synth pop because I really have no issues with the music, it is not synth pop but definitely pop and I actually quite liked the music on the second video sort of Seal like.

I think the music serves to illustrate what he is saying...certainly he mixed it so he can talk about it and what he says makes sense, well at least to me.  Delivery is important and if that rubs you the wrong way then you are not going to stay around to hear the message.

Good basic mixing is fundamental to all music genres....granted within ambient this tends to become very abstract and most rules go out the door which is exciting, however the basic principle of getting a good mix still apply and that is what this man is suggesting.  Its like constructing a building...you have to get a solid foundation before you can go up and what you design will express your own architectural inclinations but the building will not stay up long if you screw up the part few people see.

Food for though as Forrest says and I respect that it may not be to everyones taste.  :)

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Mixing tips.
« on: January 23, 2014, 09:23:29 PM »
Crap they are Tomas, the songs.....yet I found some interesting perspectives on mixing that I consider on a regular basis that Ive not heard spoken about.  Dont judge a book by its cover as they say  ;)

I loved the bits where he is checking his text messages.....brings the whole message home.

The reason I posted these is because they touch issues that should be considered regardless of musical taste or genre......good mixing skills are essential to understand and have command of as we most often are the musician and the engineer....same person different hats.

I found some things in the videos that I felt were important an worth sharing......there is always room for us to improve are mixing skills, even if this did not do it for you  :)


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