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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bad Ambient
« on: September 05, 2014, 07:45:43 AM »
If by bad you mean ambient that does not do anything for me.....I know lots but this is personally just not to my taste.  Also music that calls itself ambient and is not, and again thats my interpretation of what ambient is.  Lots of music that in miss cast.  And the last aspect is also music that does not resonate with me at first then later becomes enjoyable .

Like Chris said with the internet I have a good idea of what Im buying.....though Im starting to see artist with one longer excerpt from a single track of an entire album instead of a selection of tracks for preview and recently I have been disappointed by the rest of the album.  Not bad but not good.

Hearing bad ambient music would create an negative emotional response.......have had any of those in years, musically speaking.

Everything and Nothing / Re: TIDAL - Lossless audio streaming service
« on: September 04, 2014, 04:25:16 AM »
Im interested, just joined the mailing list.  Its about time.  Thanks for the heads up Mike

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ableton Live ?
« on: September 03, 2014, 05:40:52 AM »
Nice compact setup there reason that I got Live Suite was for Max which is really good for audio manipulation and there are a few very interesting synths built with Max.  The other reason was the entire soft synths collection which is unique.  Live Suite is a lot of money to put down in one go, though I think its worth it because not only did I get a new work flow but a battery of inspiring synths / samplers.  Actually the sampler implementation in Live has made me think and feel different about what can be done....never really got it samples or samplers before.

Below is a video that turned me on to what Max for Live could do...very exciting!

Max for Live: The Monolake Granulator on Vimeo

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Online Mastering ?
« on: September 01, 2014, 03:47:52 AM »
The SOS article to my reading of it is still traditional mastering and is what I have done in the past.  Upload music via FTP.  Mastering engineer masters the music.....downloads music for review......several email exchanges with changes......master & receive master disk. 

It would be great to attend the session but I have not been able to do so yet.


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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Online Mastering ?
« on: August 29, 2014, 09:23:02 AM »
I checked the site out.....I like that they hold mastering engineers in high regard and suggest Landr as another approach.  I could see how it could be useful in our "I need it now" world.  Mastering engineers are not always available have to get in line.  They also say they will not slam the music...thats good.  Got me curious.

Thanks for the heads up Pete.

Buying from either supports both. Sam makes the CDs, Steve gets them from Sam, they both make a little bit off of each disc.

Good to know...thanks Loren

I answered my own question.....just bought 2 Stev...Roa...cds from Projekt. Dont want to mention the full name because all hell my break loose  :o  ::)  again

I feel its is important to support the label & artist because the label is the PR side of the equation and that is powerful when pushed with the right energy.  Artist usually are terrible at it not because they cant do it but because they are or should be busy being artists.   I can support both the music and the word.


Question...if a label releases an artist music and the artist releases his/her own music of the same title who or what do you support?....the label / artist relationship or the artist directly.  Is the label /artist something worth supporting.

Heres so more thoughts from Sam from todays news letter.....I enjoy projekt releases and a few forum members release their music through projekt :)  There are other good ambient electronic labels, obviously Hypnos for one.  Any "news" about this genre is interesting but I dont come across much and as a great deal of music is self released I find it interesting to see what a traditional label is up to and Sam is quite vocal theses days.

"It's become obvious to me: over the last few years Projekt has become a (primarily) electronic/ambient label.

For clarity, I do not mean the EDM/dance style of electronic & ambient music. I mean floating, drifting meditative ambient, or adventurous drone / space-music electronics. For simplicity, I will refer to this side of Projekt's sound as "electronic."

I began Projekt 31 years ago, releasing a few compilation cassettes, and a whole bunch of my own solo-electronic music. In 1986, I released the first album from my band, Black Tape For A Blue Girl; the label's sound began an evolution toward a goth / ethereal / darkwave perspective. Projekt really came to people's attention in the early 90s, with the success of the rock-side-of-the-label acts Black Tape For A Blue Girl, Lycia, and Love Spirals Downwards. Fans and writers called Projekt "the American 4AD." But I wasn't soley focused on one sound; at the same time as the darkwave heydey, I was releasing electronic music. In fact, the fourth band on the label was O Yuki Conjugate, with their tribal ambient masterpiece, Peyote. In late 1995, I released the first Steve Roach album on Projekt, his double-CD collaboration with vidnaObmana, Well of Souls. Parallel to the darkwave sound, the electronic side continued to grow.

I dug into the numbers, to see if my hunch was right about the direction the label has taken. I tallied up the last 12 month's royalty payments, and sorted the artists into electronic or darkwave.

On royalties paid to the label's top-25 acts, 69% went to the electronic artists, 31% to the darkwave artists. Yes, 69%! A big chunk of the 69% goes to Steve Roach, while on the darkwave side much of that 31% goes to Voltaire. If you pull those two artists, and compare the rest of the acts, the ratio skews slightly more darkwave, yet remains nearly the same: 64% electronic / 36% darkwave.

My hunch was correct.

Now, part of this shift can be attributed to the lack of releases from my band, Black Tape For A Blue Girl. We were a big part of those sales in the 90s, but as the label grew busier I've taken less and less time to work on my own music. With Lycia and Love Spirals Downwards and Mira gone, the bands that contributed the bulk of the rest of the darkwave side are no longer here to keep up the tradition.

You might have noticed that Projekt's CD output reflects this switch, with many more electronic releases in the last two years. I still love the darkwave bands, of course. But I want to focus on what you are interested in."/i]

Crossing the Threshold.....this would be a good opportunity to take part.  Express your opinion on what you hear in the music sample Tomas supplied.

"Gold plated wall power sockets"....thats really funny ;D :)


So Tomas...a week has passed......what was the purpose of this?  Did it answer anything for you?

Thanks.....clouds are really interesting.  Look down to change a lens and by the time my head is up what I saw is gone, that fast.  It could  evolve into something better but usually not. Clouds seem so still.  Hence the.....Chasing Clouds.

I think everyone missed the big point here: Julio offered to buy everyone a pint of beer.  ;)

Yep...first rounds on me.  ;D

Gentleman...its your tone and honestly you provoked Tomas's to the point response, As well as mine. You know it is so, so dont be so surprised. Your perspective has great value and is well worth discussing but if you come across as you just have then you will be held accountable by forum members who release wonderful ambient music and who do not take to other ambient musicians production skills being questioned especially when the music is so damn "low volume" it seems ridiculous to even question overly extended bass. 

You want to have a go at it...then do so with respect and everyone will listen!  Of course sitting around a table discussing this with a pint of beer and things would be so much better understood.

Love & Peace 

On a side note:

Ive noticed the most complains about technical issues of other music is coming from members clearly being newbie (with no references at all in music business). Of course, having enough money in today allows anyone to own the "right and respected gear" but unfortunately it needs a bit more than just owning or talking theoretical about it  ;D

Well put Tomas.....Im open to all sorts of opinions, hopefully they are humble especially online where you need to back off a fair bit compared to normal one on one dialogue. 

Gear means absolutely nothing when in the hands of a master.   Shall I bring up the master Samurai story with and inferior Katana sword in his hand and the poorly trainer opponent standing before him.  The sword does not matter. The picture is clear.

Im somewhat embarrassed that I have become involved in this silly bass debate, though it is good to see ambient musicians and ambient music lovers (thats pretty sexy) coming together in a single though diverse thread.

A Deeper Silence
Immersion 4
Structures for Silence

to mix bass on these speakers are probably not a good idea..I hope that it is not his mixing monitors..

Those monitors look like original Mackie HR824.....a very respected monitor.  As to the bass issue I have never heard what is being described. 

Everything and Nothing / The funniest Man that ever lived is Gone!
« on: August 12, 2014, 04:44:22 PM »
Im sure this sad news of Robin Williams passing is coming through to most by now....In my life he was the funniest because he could be the most serious as well.  Perhaps comedy enabled Robin Williams to plummet the depths of the human psyche....I dont know, yet he could swing the emotional pendulum to such extremes that I would say no other actor has  been able in quite the same way to make me laugh and cry as he did.

The candle that burns twice as bright.....

R.I.P...or better yet, come on back real soon!

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: August 12, 2014, 04:15:30 PM »
I've been enjoying the full immersion treatment with Loren Dent's Anthropology Vols. 1, 2 and 3 and his Extras from vol. 1 that we're originally available on a separate memory stick release.  Majestic symphonic drone with occasional hints of Stars of the Lid. 


Thanks for the heads up on this Forrest....Ive been streaming on Bandcamp.  Love it!  Will buy the cd.  Beautiful artwork on as well.

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