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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Drone Masters
« on: October 11, 2013, 03:49:27 PM »
I have been think about drone music and what it actually is, who makes it and what defines it as such.
I feel I have quite a few recordings that could be called drone but really I could not swear that this music is drone because I can't for sure say what it is.......Who are the Drone Masters?

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Experimental Exotic Wood Synth
« on: October 04, 2013, 05:21:10 AM »
Stumbled across this yesterday.....its pretty far out there.  Interesting and very amusing at times

The Shnth Comes to England - with Peter Blasser on Vimeo

I came across Inlandish today at Boomkat while searching for Roedelius music today.....good description Forrest, edgy is the word but in a good way.  I look forward to the release of this actual music some time
in the near future as I understand it this was a piece from the upcoming recording "Ubi Bene"

Amazing many sonic ideas expressed within just nine minutes.  I known the man and his place in electronic music history but I dont know his music so well.  After listening to this I need to change that.  Also fantastic installation of objects, art, photos and dried flowers. 

Thanks for the post Anthony

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Breaking Bad
« on: September 30, 2013, 06:34:38 PM »
For me the best was his last conversation with Skyler.....the truth of why he really did it and how he felt.  Perhaps Walters first real truth considering his life had to be lead as a lie.

Hi Darren....looking forward to your response.  The way we receive can be in ways as important to what we receive.

Forrest's post touches on many issues that are important to us all.

Julio, I think you've really hit the nail on the head.  I think there is a period of doubt and scrutiny and maybe even insecurity that should be part and parcel of any act of creation.  Particularly in the ambient genre, it is difficult to tell whether a piece is truly done or can or should be refined further.  If we are truly honest with ourselves, it is rare that piece comes out fully and perfectly formed out of the womb.  This sensibility can be at odds with the promotion/marketing side that an artist is expected to pursue, which is to convince the prospective listener that your latest work is the greatest thing since sliced bread and of course better than anything else you've done before.  There is also the issue of whether the artist has enough distance from his own work or enough perspective to objectively assess it for others.  I'd rather leave that heavy lifting for reviewers or listeners, who are likely to see things I am not in a position to see because I am too close to the work.

I also think we as listeners need to constantly revisit the question of whether "more" is better when it comes to the glut of music now available and the bloated size of digital libraries, but best to save that for another day.


Well put Forrest.....i think the issue is the idea of the "forced entrepreneurship ", specifically the "forced" part.  Perhaps no one is really being forced but if you want to be heard you really are. Going  back to the NYT article and the Russian factory selling knock off western jeans.  By the very nature of being forced they sell what ever has the potential to bring in revenue.  There is no quality, craftsmanship or pride involve, just money and in their case the need to survive.  Not sure that these are issues for the ambient community....most I believe earn a live wage doing other thing.  However the music created must enter some sort of marketplace if the intention is for that music to be sold, not just listened to.  It is here that the artist is faced with a choice.  One is the road to a possible audience using ways and means that the artist has no training and skill in or the other road that leads to the "quiet artist" and possible obscurity.

The "glut " of music you speak of Forrest I feel is a direct spin off of this.....there are no more checks and balances so to speak.  Firstly it does not cost a lot to produce the music technically and create a format for distribution be it physical or digital.  The outlets for this music are easy to set up.  Whats to stop anyone.  The old model was the complete opposite.  Few got access and one can only hope the best is what came through really was the best, but thats history now. 

The current music label even within the ambient genre can offer, and I feel it does is the nurturing quality that was so important in the old system.  When artists were "developed".  The music label has standards to be met and to be part of it, to call it a home, those standards should be met  The "heres my latest music...sell it" should not fly just because.  The label hopefully will insure that it is ready for release and if not send it back for more fine tuning.  This does not exist in a forced entrepreneurial environment where I am my own advisor.

The flip side is that there is great music being made that could have only existed within the current trend of the social network and delivery through itunes, amazon and bandcamp.   One has to take the good with the bad when all is said and done.

Excellent post Forrest.....

Artist general are terrible business people....there are exception Im the notion of artist as self promoter seems just as strange to me.... like oil and water.  Everything about the creative process be it music, painting, writing so opposite to what happens after the completion of the work. The artist has spent months/years working on a piece and then to give that work its fair due has  to spend months promoting it.  From being wonderfully lost in that unique space of creation to then have to put on a suit and tie, completely change perspective and commodify the work of art as though it never came from the artist.  It involves too many personality for one person to do it well.  Certainly theres not much choice today as the NYT article illustrates. 

Artist can be so indifferent to the works they create. They are often plagued with doubt and uncertainties.....regardless if the work is brilliant it will never see the light of day unless nurtured.  Not a candidate I would recommend for any PR department.  No personal experience in the legal field but I for one would not represent myself in a court of law.

I love the compositional musical journey. I love doing the artwork, photography & design.  I love communicating with mastering engineers, cd plant and web designers but then the love stops.  Within the old school big label model if I was lucky enough to have been a part of it Im sure I would have done none of the above except write the music.  That was this is.

The music label is still vital and necessary.  Down "here" labels are often run by musicians who are passionate about the music they curate.  That passion is such a driving force that its easy...I would work hard to make the music you love succeed.  The music label offers home to the artist, a safe haven where the artist can focus on their gift and not be troubled by the details of getting their creations to market.  This sort of leads me to think about the opening part of the Simone NYT piece as it relates to the russian people she talked to and how they preferred the old factories ways as opposed to the new entrepreneurial map.  They did their part.  We should do the part we do best.

Has technology and the social network enable us to become super human.  I can do everyone else's job.

I have to ask myself....does the cream still rise to the top, or is it just the amount of noise I make when I Twitter.

Never thought of that...good advice Tomas.  Thanks

Great news.....I had the original VS and nuke version.  Miss it a lot.   Thanks for posting this.  Lets hope this version works better on the mac than the old one.  I had to run the original on a pc because the mac version was so unstable.  Just realized I am going to need fxpansions vst to audio units adapter for logic.  Not free in the end but still worth it!

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Nominated for an Emmy Award
« on: September 17, 2013, 03:34:36 PM »
Very beautiful Robert.....congratulations .

Ive been listening to your sound cloud page......Love it.   Grinder,  thats just wild.  The ambient  track 0 > θs ≥ −6◦ is very special,  Ive played "Kid" quite a few times.  Looking forward to you release.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Midi Controller Recommendation
« on: September 10, 2013, 05:22:08 AM »
Ive had this since january and the action is it as a demo model from novamusik for $700.  Its not cheap and you can do better price wise with just a controller but I could not pay good money for a keyboard that did not make any sounds. As you can hear the piano sounds great.  As a controller it does what its supposed to.

Everything and Nothing / Re: My coworker stopped talking to me
« on: September 08, 2013, 05:45:19 AM »
Happened to me.....its really unpleasant!  A co worker of 13 years one day just turn me off in his world.  There seemed to be no reason for it that I was aware of.  I tried to hold a mirror up to him, sort of reflect the energy back that he was sending. Not sure if it worked but it did stop me wasting alot of energy wondering what I may have done and self analysis. In the end the co worker left and the situation was never resolved.  Should I have done more.....maybe.  What I did was to ensure that my job was not compromised by this.  We were not friends outside of work though we had been friendly and enjoyed working together.

Now Playing / Re: Heavy music: turn it up to eleven!
« on: August 31, 2013, 05:15:23 AM »
Only Heavy music Ive been into in recent years is Tool.......the videos below should come with some sort of warning.  Makes Hellrasier seem like a kids cartoon IMHO.  Kind of like the music better without the visual element.  Thats just me.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Insights from Daniel Lanois
« on: August 25, 2013, 05:50:29 AM »
Yes drone on,  those were special days when ambient as a type of music was born and it did and hopefully still does inspire both listeners and musicians alike.....we are still here.  :)

I may have mentioned this before but back in the 80's in London before I came to  America I had the good fortune to see an Ambient concert with Harold Budd, Daniel Lanois, Micheal Brooks & Roger Eno.  Brian Eno was there but not as a performer.  It was a small theater with maybe 100 was perfect!

What would become Ambient music was an idea that Eno had while recovering from some injury and could not get out of bed to turn up the hi fi, so he was forced to listen at very low volume and the music mix with the environmental sounds.  This event produced Discrete Music and then Music for Airports.  I realize most know this story but its seems to me that the "idea" is  almost more important then the music and listening to DL in the video reflects this for me. 

Everything and Nothing / Re: Insights from Daniel Lanois
« on: August 24, 2013, 04:46:38 PM »
Great post Judd......on many levels.  One that strikes me is how "ambient" music has permeated pop music, and yet listening to him talk I wonder if he even knows what ambient music is, or where it is today.  Where is it anyway?  As usual lots to think about.  Im thinking that we need or should...clinging with perseverance to our beloved ambient let it go.  Not sure what that may actually entail but Lanois somehow suggests to me that the spirit of ambient has endured and always will without the need to claim it as a genre per se.  Did it suddenly get rather hot in here. ;)

For me the two tracks illustrate that Scape does not sound like Eno, that is to my ear.  Cant say for sure what it does sound like and thats really not important.  If someone released music composed solely with Scape it might color my thoughts as wells...knowing the app I would be interested to hear what they came up with,  as I would if you made music with it Pete or Tomas & Loren.  Serious musicians playing with an interesting and unusual toy, sorry....App.  Actually not such a bad idea. ;) 

While using Scape Ive been receiving messages like...."make a cloud",  "use only high notes",  "create a contrast", "use only the extremes"  "go read a book"....for example.  Seems to me Scape has its own Oblique Strategies in the app.

Here are two Scapes I did last night.  They are recorded live with no overdubs or editing .  Scape 1 has some clean external reverb and delay.  Scape 2 has your typical "Lost in space" fx.  Theres some quasi software mastering on the bonce to disk bus....Eq, compression & Limiting.  The files are quality.

Performance wise Im doing nothing more than what the video up top shows with usually no more then 8 elements at one time changeing them and the mood as I feel......enjoy

Scape 1

Scape 2

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Logic 10
« on: August 19, 2013, 05:12:06 PM »
Im watching it but not really certain if its that necessary right now.....Logic 9 is fine. 

Blake maybe check ebay for Boxed Logic Pro 9.

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