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Now Playing / Re: Heavy music: turn it up to eleven!
« on: August 31, 2013, 05:15:23 AM »
Only Heavy music Ive been into in recent years is Tool.......the videos below should come with some sort of warning.  Makes Hellrasier seem like a kids cartoon IMHO.  Kind of like the music better without the visual element.  Thats just me.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Insights from Daniel Lanois
« on: August 25, 2013, 05:50:29 AM »
Yes drone on,  those were special days when ambient as a type of music was born and it did and hopefully still does inspire both listeners and musicians alike.....we are still here.  :)

I may have mentioned this before but back in the 80's in London before I came to  America I had the good fortune to see an Ambient concert with Harold Budd, Daniel Lanois, Micheal Brooks & Roger Eno.  Brian Eno was there but not as a performer.  It was a small theater with maybe 100 was perfect!

What would become Ambient music was an idea that Eno had while recovering from some injury and could not get out of bed to turn up the hi fi, so he was forced to listen at very low volume and the music mix with the environmental sounds.  This event produced Discrete Music and then Music for Airports.  I realize most know this story but its seems to me that the "idea" is  almost more important then the music and listening to DL in the video reflects this for me. 

Everything and Nothing / Re: Insights from Daniel Lanois
« on: August 24, 2013, 04:46:38 PM »
Great post Judd......on many levels.  One that strikes me is how "ambient" music has permeated pop music, and yet listening to him talk I wonder if he even knows what ambient music is, or where it is today.  Where is it anyway?  As usual lots to think about.  Im thinking that we need or should...clinging with perseverance to our beloved ambient let it go.  Not sure what that may actually entail but Lanois somehow suggests to me that the spirit of ambient has endured and always will without the need to claim it as a genre per se.  Did it suddenly get rather hot in here. ;)

For me the two tracks illustrate that Scape does not sound like Eno, that is to my ear.  Cant say for sure what it does sound like and thats really not important.  If someone released music composed solely with Scape it might color my thoughts as wells...knowing the app I would be interested to hear what they came up with,  as I would if you made music with it Pete or Tomas & Loren.  Serious musicians playing with an interesting and unusual toy, sorry....App.  Actually not such a bad idea. ;) 

While using Scape Ive been receiving messages like...."make a cloud",  "use only high notes",  "create a contrast", "use only the extremes"  "go read a book"....for example.  Seems to me Scape has its own Oblique Strategies in the app.

Here are two Scapes I did last night.  They are recorded live with no overdubs or editing .  Scape 1 has some clean external reverb and delay.  Scape 2 has your typical "Lost in space" fx.  Theres some quasi software mastering on the bonce to disk bus....Eq, compression & Limiting.  The files are quality.

Performance wise Im doing nothing more than what the video up top shows with usually no more then 8 elements at one time changeing them and the mood as I feel......enjoy

Scape 1

Scape 2

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Logic 10
« on: August 19, 2013, 05:12:06 PM »
Im watching it but not really certain if its that necessary right now.....Logic 9 is fine. 

Blake maybe check ebay for Boxed Logic Pro 9.

I think it does sound like Eno if you want it to.....put it through some deep space verb and it sounds like Roach, well not really but you get the idea.  I bet this app was a spin off from the software for 77 million paintings and theres a certain phrasing to the app that reminds me of "Lux"
When the app boots it credits Eno with Synths, found sounds, Field recordings sound source for my own music, certainly not by itself.  I had it going in the background and play the matrix 12 with interesting results.

I will get some Scapes up for you to hear but really I think this is just something fun for everyone to play with and could be a source of maybe just inspiration.

Yes I will post some Scapes......good idea Tomas.  Actually running the ipad output through my studio reverb which is an Eventide Eclipse the Scape sounds incredible.  They still sound good unprocessed but do benefit from some additional space.  I ran one Scape last night form about 5.30pm to about 11.45 pm and every so often would add a new element or change the mood.  Amazing! 

You can also take snap shots of your Scapes for playback at another time but they cannot be edited any further. 

I hope ambient music fans with iPads download is an educational tool as well IMHO as you will be doing what musicians do with layering sounds and textures hands on without the need of really any musical skills except your ears. Just remember to check back in and support your favorite musicians.  ;)

FYI.....the full app has to be unlocked in the iPad settings which gives you quite alot more elements to use.  In the settings it says that this is not recommended I believe because it also gives you the chance to change the pitch and scale which could mess things up if your not musically minded.  I thought the video shown here was the prototype or perhaps the computer version as my Scape originally was not the same as the one in the video. Once unlocked it was the same.... Cant imagine why nothing was mentioned about this on the website.  Eno being Eno?

I put this topic here for maximum exposure as it could get lost in the gear or tech section of the forum.

What your laying out is a really interesting approach Bill......I could see different authors writing about various aspects of ambient music and still keep the historical timeline.  It certainly would easy the mammoth undertaking for one individual.  Sounds exciting....when will you begin ;)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Ambient music creation for everyone!
« on: August 17, 2013, 04:40:41 PM »

Thanks to Tomas Weiss (El culto) for posting the 80 minute Eno interview recently.   In it Eno mentioned a iPad app he had developed called Scape.  This is it.  It is quite amazing and I have been making scapes for a few weeks now, in fact I bought an iPad just because I wanted this app.  I often create a scape and just let it evolve instead of putting on music in the studio, change elements from time to time and.....well its just really fun, actually its just very ambient for anyone.  It does benefit to send the sound signal through some reverb/effects which may not be readily available to non musicians but as I have discovered theres lots of ways to do so within the iPad environment for a few $.

Do you remember when "Drum Machines" came out and human drummers could not get gigs anymore..... :o


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Geosonics ?
« on: August 17, 2013, 03:41:16 PM »
Not one to use field recordings but this is different.....seems they have made it very friendly and the examples sound really good mixed with the synth, but then maybe too easy.  Thanks for posting it Pete!

I think an American ambient history would be an interesting read and I sense there is quite a lot that is different in the evolution of ambient music on both sides of the atlantic.  Im not saying that there is better ambient music produced here, thats not the case but rather cultural and more importantly geographic inspired music that perhaps sets it apart for good of bad. 

Is there a direct line that can be traced from "the dawn of ambient music with....eno, (experts please chime in here fore historical accuracy) to its contemporary creation here in America 2013.  Most likely, yes, however I sense quite a departure in the music of Roach, Rich & Stearn's that seems to me to be a direct and unique reflection of our "space" that is this huge continent of vast beauty.

I realize Im not actually saying much because it could take a whole book to actually come to any conclusions

Yes Forrest.....Academia; wonderfully specific, geographical  & focused but can sometimes miss the big picture......still just going by Loren's imagery, the man seems somewhat unfortunately removed and thus missed a great opportunity to broaden his ambient perspective, or note.

Now I'll go and watch the youtube interview......just love speculation.

Seems to me if I were a electro ambient journalist/critic/fan with published writings and I was invited to another country to talk to a gathering of serious ambient fan and a handful of some of the best names in the genre hosted by probably the longest running radio show of electronic ambient music dare say it in the world,  I would do some home work.  I find it hard to believe Roach & Rich have not crossed the Atlantic with enough force to show up on this man's radar.  There was a history of american avant garde being openly excepted and support by cites in European countries.....Paris comes to mind.  Times may have changed over the years.   

Bravo Pete.......very excited for you! :)

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: NY The New Audio Geeks
« on: August 09, 2013, 05:09:07 AM »
Interesting read Jim.......the one non myth that really struck me is this quote from the article copied below

"Experiments have shown that people can hear the difference between sources where one is just 0.2dB louder than the other and a trained mixing engineer can probably do better than that. The effect is one reason why the A&R staff at record labels insist on making masters as loud as possible a track that sounds louder on the radio will often fare better with audiences."

This fact that music, especially pop music has been made to be as loud as possible has actually destroyed the pleasures of listing to music.  By making the master as loud as can be the music gets distorted, and this is not tape distortion or subtle tube distortion that our ears like. Also by making everything loud the dynamics are severally altered where and instruments that may have been more desecrate in the original mix are know right up front. 

This is less of a concern for the ambient / electronic genres we love here but like most things there is a trickle down effect and with many ambient musicians, who are not mastering engineers, doing there own mastering with software presets designed with a modern approach, care needs to be taken.

So how does this effect the person sitting in front of their $10,000 audiophile system and that person with an iPod and ear buds......perhaps the ipod will not exhibit this problem and the audiophile's microscopic show every audio detail system will hear the nasty truth in all its glory.  I would expect it to be this way. 

As the quote states....."a track that sounds louder on the radio will often fare better with audiences." suggests that people dont care or perhaps to know to care in the first place and that slamming the music at the mastering stage potentially ruins it

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bvdub invasion...
« on: August 08, 2013, 06:50:52 PM »
Listened today to the bandcamp sound clips and Im liking it.....though 1minute or so soundbites dont really help to promote a new release but from what I could hear it should be a good.   

Rule out any cities along the south eastern Florida coast......not to say that there aren't ambient music fans and musician just no community per se. 

I think the community has be a virtual one for a while, like this forum and others.  It has become more of a global community with respected musicians collaborating on music who are continents away from each other.

There is no Nashville for ambient space music but the cities that Loren mentioned do seem to have more interest in things out side the "popular" Box.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Bandcamp
« on: July 29, 2013, 06:33:40 PM »
Thanks for the info regarding Mobineko.

Was over at Juno Downloads.....some high ticket items there.  New Boards of Canada, Tomorrows Harvest, $22 + for a wav file album.  Warp records is charging $11.95 for the same BOC flac file and 14 and change for a cd.  I just feel my wallet is being used and abused.  I will pay the going rate for a cd, I know what they cost, but please don't try to push one over on me that a wav file deserves some sort of special price.  Its just a wave file, ones & zero's......breath.   I feel better now that I got that out.

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