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I stop by the 12k site quite often to see whats happening and I had never seen this beautiful little manifesto before...thought Id share.


1. Don't tell listeners what they want to hear, let them discover that for themselves. 

2. Treat your audience as they are: intelligent, passionate lovers of art and sound.

3. Evolve constantly, but slowly.

4. Stay quiet, stay small.

5. Strive for timelessness.

6. Never try to be perfect. Beauty is imperfection.

7. Simplicity. Anti-Design.

8. Never try to innovate, be true to yourself, and innovation may happen.

9. Explore sound as art, as a physical phenomenon with emotion.

10. Develop community.

11. Be spontaneous.

12. Everything will change.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Recent music purchases
« on: August 05, 2011, 05:05:59 AM »
Thomas Koner 3 cd set on its way to me!

Sigur Ros - Agaetis Byrjun

Yes Loren, this has been on my mind.....I recall you tell me that logic 9 works on your G5,  yesterday I checked the specs on Logic 8 which is what Im on and the intel core duo or intel xeon processor are "highly recommended" according to apple.  Logic 8 is solid, running on OSX Leopard to the other big cats that have come on the scene recently, it is a concern and I really dread all the software upgrades, reconfigurations and ilok issues that come along with a new machine, not to say the expense as well.  Im going to see how all this settles and struggle on with the beast in the closet in the interim.

p.s.  Really enjoying "Intangible" Loren......thank you

Well after a hour or so fiddling with cables the computer is in the closet and acting like a cage rabid beast trying to get outl :o  It is actual a slight improvement but that has more to do with it not being right under my nose, sorry ears.  The one positive thing is the dvi booster has really improved the displays resolution, not what I was after though, oh well.  Isolation box or new computer.. isolation box or new computer... isolation box or....Im going to say this a lot to myself over the next few days. 

Everything and Nothing / Re: What do you love?
« on: July 27, 2011, 08:50:12 PM »
what I love is to be sitting in crystal clear water on my surfboard looking out to the horizon to see the incoming swell break on an outer reef telling me to prepare myself and watching make the turn to paddle for the wave as it arrives to then hold me momentarily before coming to my feet and making the drop into the liquid glide as the reef below me flashes the wave disappears there is no shape or form but for the grace and slide I feel as the dance across the rising wall roars behind me then the sun illuminates the turquoise path that propels the sequence of movements to fast for memory until the energy is absorbed and the deep smile comes as I thank the universe for the ride of a life time......then what I love more as I paddle back out is to watch my girlfriend go through the motions and take the drop on another wave with a huge bottom turn she recoils into the most gentle display of fluid hydrodynamics in each arc and spray a courtship of elements she passes close to me her face of concentrated joy the body in unison a magnetic glow of ebb and flow.

We have been back a few weeks from a surf trip to Bocas del Toro, Panama.....and of course the moral of the story, never ask a surfer to describe what the ride was like, could sound similar to the wonderful drivel above.


Thanks everyone for your suggestion.....regarding macs and pc, I am on the mac platform because of one thing...Logic! If microsoft bought it from apple then I would switch.  one machine is not better than the other.

I am new to SSD, that is I have seen them mentioned around the web but dont know much about them....need to find out more.

I have finally got all the necessary cables ready to move the computer into the closet, will do it tomorrow.  Let you know if it works out.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Recent music purchases
« on: July 21, 2011, 06:51:54 AM »

VIR UNIS - Aeonian Glow


I do have plans to drop the powercore platform next computer upgrade anyway.....I just checked  the specs on the 27" iMac, 3.1ghz quad core, that be plenty of power!   Thanks for the suggestion Mike...just might be the way to go.


Pete those fans have some by the  "Austrian Institute of Heat Transmission & Fan Technology ;)  Seriously though appears to be a lot of research done on the design, they must be quiet.

It seems to me that PC's are way ahead in the world of keeping a computer cool and quiet.....from silent fans to liquid cooling systems.

Thanks for posting with pictures Loren.....I had read some good things about the Noren Acoustilock gCab, nice to actual hear from a forum member that uses it.  At $1250 it is not cheap but cheaper than buying a new Mac Pro.  IF my closet experiment does not work It will be something to invest in down the road

Yes a computer upgrade is the best option......the big screen iMac looks good, other than my powercore xpress card with I only use for the VSS3 reverb I could go totally usb/firewire.  Anyway my budget for the up coming months has be slated for cd production so no big or small expensive toys right now.


Yes Mike the idea of doing sensitive recordings in another room makes sense, most likely cheaper to move preamps and cables to accommodate the situation than than isolate the studio.

I gave my G4 to my girlfriend and each morning, several rooms away, when it auto starts it sounds like a hair drier.

I have a feeling my solution may just be an inadequate band aid to the problem but hopefully it will enable me to work without that sonic interference right in my face.

Cost wise the highest ticket item is a Gefen Dvi to Dvi booster to extend the display ...$169  Fortunately firewire repeaters and usb hubs drop way down in price.

Im in the process of moving my computer, a G5 Quad Core Mac out of my studio, well not entirely out but into a closet in the studio, your standard accordion slatted closet doors.  Right now the computer is close to my right moniter and when pushed with a lot of plugin activity the fans start to gear up and I just cant deal with what the fan noise is doing to the mid high to high frequencies when trying to mix.

What are you doing to deal with this?  Ive look at the expensive Isobox option.  Mixed reviews from what Ive read.  Seems to be an overheating issue with those boxes.  Putting the computer in an other room is not an a posibility.  Also not ready to upgrade my computer....Ive heard the newest Macs are almost silent.

Your thoughts are most most welcome.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Best Audio Cables
« on: July 16, 2011, 06:31:26 PM »
Thanks to Chad Kettering for turning me on and others I hope...its in a post here somewhere.. to really good audio cable guys

The best Mogami cables & neutrik interconnects....its not cheap, but if your looking to move beyond Hosa et el this is the way to go.  They make you cables to order whatever length and turn around is a matter of a day or two. 

Remember, we are only as good as our connection......damn, I should work for at&t.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Ultimate Ambient Synth
« on: June 13, 2011, 03:45:03 PM »
Julio, my favorite Rutman CD is probably his collaboration with Carsten Tiedemann of Mo Boma under the project name  "Spacebow," called Big Waves.  His Steel Cello Ensemble's Zuuhh!! Muttie Mum!! CD isn't bad, either.  I first heard him on an LP called "Bitter Suites," which I don't think has been reissued on CD.

Hdbrell, forgot all about Harry Bertoia.  He is probably better known for his Bertoia chairs, but I love his music, too.  I have his "Unfolding" and "Sounds" CDs, which are reissues of earlier LPs.  Who needs a great synth if you have a great acoustic sound source?  The Bertoia pieces remind me a bit of albums using the wind harp, but are much more complex and almost orchestral.  I've corresponded with his son Val, who seems like a nice guy.


Thanks again Forrest.... I will check out your recommendations.   I did not put the Harry Bertoia's Barn and as you say his better known chairs as the same person. Love it!

Where is this thread going...... we now have ambient chairs :)

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Ultimate Ambient Synth
« on: June 12, 2011, 08:44:31 PM »

Julio, if you like the sound of the Baschet crystal, you should also check out some of Robert Rutman's music (under his own name and under his group name, "Steel Cello Ensemble").  Rutman's steel sound sculptures have also been featured on some of the late Klaus Wiese's releases.


Thanks for the suggestion Forest.....did a little reaserch into him but most things I came across were very avant garde group performances that did not show off the sound sculptures that much.  His website did have more but very short sound clips. Still worth pursuing, I will have to dig deeper

 I do like the sound of the Baschet Cristal......its a sound I have tried to synthesizer...wavetables come sort of close but its still a far cry.

I'd love to spend a day playing around in Harry Bertoia's barn.

Cant say ive ever seen or heard anything quite like it.....towards then end of the video when a bunch of sculptures are in motion it becomes very interesting as the motion and sound begins to diminish and each piece becomes still, beautiful yet tense in a way.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Ultimate Ambient Synth
« on: June 12, 2011, 08:24:30 AM »
This is the Baschet Cristal as used by Film Composer Cliff Martinez, its not a synth but certainly up there as a contender

Heres a link to some audio/visuals

For my own work I would say my Martix 12 going through an eventide eclipse is my ultimate ambient combo......also Id have to add the Hartmann Neuron, I used to have the VS and it was definitely unique

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Ultimate Ambient Synth
« on: June 12, 2011, 04:19:25 AM »
Yes many ways the thread is pointless, though I still find it interesting to see what others consider it to be such as a Field Recorder, FX rack unit or as Seren's post beautifully illustrates the possibilities.  I would have loved to walk on that hilltop amongst  those tune bamboo poles!   

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / The Ultimate Ambient Synth
« on: June 11, 2011, 05:34:37 PM »
Is there such a thing?  Can it be just one machine?  Maybe it is not electronics at all. perhaps it is........

This was a thread over at gearslutz

I think I have it, dont you,  but then.......a perfect gear topic for the Ultimate Ambient Forum!

Sort of comforting to know that Tribal Ambient....come the end of days,  will be the last form of music on this earth.  How else will we be able to communicate with one another?

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