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Everything and Nothing / Re: RIP Richard Wright
« on: September 16, 2008, 12:55:29 PM »
I saw them again a few years later at the infamous Sports Arena concerts(talk about second-hand smoke!) with the 'revolutionary' quadrophonic sound system.

I also saw that show, it was either the first or second rock show I ever went to (I can't remember if it was Pink Floyd or The Who). I saw them at Anaheim stadium for the Animals tour, at the Sports Arena again for The Wall, and also at the Forum for Momentary Lapse of Reason. Pink Floyd was probably my favorite band, and Rick was a hero to me. He will be missed.  :'(

Everything and Nothing / Re: The "free for all" section of this Forum
« on: September 10, 2008, 10:43:35 PM »
I missed all the fuss, probably because I haven't visited that section in weeks. Personally I won't miss it much because I hardly ever went to that section, but my fear now is those kind of arguments will start to appear back in this section of the forum. And if I remember correctly that was why the free for all section was started in the first place.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Recording fee advice needed asap
« on: September 10, 2008, 09:58:15 AM »
That would be my preference, but the money man has already said he just wants the rights and no later legal again he'll get the quote - with the £650 a minute figure thrown in to begin with ;D

I think that amount for a buy out is way too low. The last buy out I did I got around $2000 for 10 minutes of music, and that was ten years ago. Don't give up your music for peanuts, if he wants to pay next to nothing then he should get next to nothing. At that price he should only get the right to use your music with the book only if it stays diy, and no copywrite ownership period. 

Everything and Nothing / Re: Migraine Scotoma - I got a bad brain.
« on: September 10, 2008, 09:47:00 AM »
I also suffer from migraines. I had two of them just last week on back to back days, which is unusual as I will usually get one and then maybe a week or so later I will get a second. Then I'm ok for the next few months. The other unusual thing about the second one was my visual cue is usually in my left eye on my left side, for some reason the second one was in my right eye on the left side.  ???  Made the headache much worse the usual.

Speaking of headaches, I use to be one of those have to sit in the dark or else get sick, but over the years the headache part has gotten much better. I'm at the point where I can mostly function without it bothering me too much most of the time.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Single disc CD players
« on: September 06, 2008, 06:27:04 PM »
What's wrong with using a DVD video player as a CD player?   

As I stated in the original now lost post I have had nothing but bad luck with DVD players. Gone through at least four of them in the last five years, they are all just POS from my point of view, and its not like I am watching tons of movies on them or even leaving them on 24/7. All the investment has gone into the video end and not the audio, so I think the audio has suffered. I just wanted a dedicated CD player is that too much to ask?

If audiophile is all that's left then what are the good affordable ones? What does everyone else use to listen to their music?

Everything and Nothing / Single disc CD players
« on: September 06, 2008, 12:03:24 PM »
I started this thread on the old forum, and since it was lost with the last server meltdown I thought  I would bring it up again. Originally I was looking for a dedicated single CD player, not a DVD player that also plays CDs or a multi-disc player. It seems single CD players are getting hard to find. Their was some pretty good advice last time around so I thought it might be nice if we could go over this again.

Since that time I ended up buying an Onkyo DX702 deck from my local Goodwill for $14.  ;D Hard to pass up at that price. It is used, about 16 years old but one nice feature it has that my old CD player didn't have (aside from actually playing discs without skipping) is a digital output. My receiver has digital ins so this should give me an improvement in sound quality.

In any case I would still like some advice for new players as I would like to upgrade my living room system (I bought the Onkyo for the bedroom) at some point in the future.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Recording fee advice needed asap
« on: September 05, 2008, 09:48:53 AM »
The money man did mention one million as a possible future print - at even one penny a print that would be £10,000................ :-\

The money man is blowing a bunch of smoke. I'd say "oh in that case my fee is $100,000" and see what he says. The only million selling books here are on Oprah.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Recording fee advice needed asap
« on: September 04, 2008, 12:19:51 PM »
The finance guy wants to pay me a one off fee for the recording - no future royalties. I have no experience of charging for time so would like advice on
1 - hourly rates for recording time

I would charge at least $40 an hour.

2 - one off fee on top for just vocal CD
That depends upon how long the project is and how involved and how close you are to the client. Remember its your time so what is your time worth?

2 - one off fee on top if I include music or field recordings.

Obviously more, figure out what your music is worth to you to charge.

Other things, if you are writing the music then its your music, he gets no publishing rights. Music license should be non exclusive and only for self publishing, it should be open ended in case a larger publisher does pick up the book. Also, don't give the money man a choice about fees, I'm sure he would like to pay as little as possible, he'd like it even more if you paid him!  :P

Don't thing about the "potential" of the book, it hasn't happened yet. Just make sure you get properly compensated for your time.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Alesis Andromeda A6
« on: August 31, 2008, 10:47:22 AM »
Jesse (Numina) I think has one. They weren't discontinued just out of production until parts where available. I have to say I've tried one a few times and it never jived with me.

Everything and Nothing / Moving threads?
« on: August 23, 2008, 01:32:38 PM »
I was just wondering instead of locking a thread is it possible with this forum to move threads to  a different area, like the Free-For All zone? Just wondering out loud.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Wonderful World of Gamelan
« on: August 21, 2008, 03:43:53 PM »
I should have pointed out that most of the King Record CDs are out-of-print, which is a shame as they are quite good. The others I am not sure of with the exception of the Nonesuch releases which I know are in print. Basically I put these out so you know if you run into one of them then just grab it.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Wonderful World of Gamelan
« on: August 21, 2008, 01:03:21 PM »
Here are a few gamelan CDs I would recommend:

Central Java
Court Music of Kraton Surakarta[King Record Co. KICC 5151/KICW1015]
Court Music of Kraton Surakarta II [King Record Co. KICC 5193]
Gendhing Bonang, Court Music of Surakarta III [King Record Co. KICC 5238/KICW1077]
Music of Mangkunegaran Solo I [King Record Co. KICC 5184/KICW1075]
Langendriyan, Music of Mangkunegaran Solo II [King Record Co. KICC 5194]
BTW, "Solo" is short for Surakarta, the city in which this court is located.

Java: Palais Royal de Yogyakarta: Vol. 1, Les danses de cour/Court dances [Ocora/Radio France C560067]
Java: Palais Royal de Yogyakarta: Vol. 2, La musique instrumentale/Instrumental music [Ocora/Radio France C560068]
Java: Palais Royal de Yogyakarta: Vol. 3, Le spirituel et le sacré/Spiritual and sacred [Ocora/Radio France C560069]
Java: Palais Royal de Yogyakarta: Vol. 4, La musique de concert/Concert music [Ocora/Radio France C560087]

Javanese Court Gamelan [Vol. I], Pura Pakualaman, Jogjakarta [Elektra Nonesuch 79719-2]
Javanese Court Gamelan Vol. II, Mangkunegaran, Solo [Elektra Nonesuch 79721-2]
Javanese Court Gamelan Vol. III, Kraton Yogya [Elektra Nonesuch 79722-2]

Yogyakarta: Gamelan of the Kraton [Celestial Harmonies 13161-2]
I haven't heard this recording but I included it because David Parsons made this recording.


The Bali Sessions: a Definitive Collection of Balinese Gamelan [Rykodisc]
Recordings on mostly rare and older forms of gamelan from Bali.
Bali: Music from the Morning of the World[Nonesuch]
CUDAMANI: The Seven-Tone Gamelan Orchestra of Pengosekan, Bali[Vital (City Hall)]
I have to confess these guys are friends of mine but its a great CD which demonstrates what's going on in Bali today.
Gamelan Music of Bali [King Record Co.]
Gamelan Semar Pegulingan Saih Pitu: The Heavenly Orchestra of Bali[King Record Co.]
Wonderful seven-tone gamelan that's different then the Cudamani gamelan, originally courtly music that almost died out, now making a bit of a come back.
Bali: Music for the Gong Gede[Ocora France]
Rare ceremonal ensemble, only a few exist.
Clash of the Gongs[Long Distance France]
One of my favorites, recordings of mostly new compositions.

I think that will do for now.

Everything and Nothing / Re: 2008 Olympics
« on: August 19, 2008, 05:43:08 PM »
All these years later I'm still mighty impressed with Bob Beamon's record long jump, I remember as a kid marking the length of his jump out on my front lawn and looking at it in amazement. At the time of the 1968 Olympic games he broke the world record by 2 feet, it was the world record for 23 years, and now 40 years later it is the 2nd longest jump in history and still the Olympic record.

I was driving 60 miles a day four days a week. Now that its summer I have switched to three days a week as their is not as much to do at school during the summer. Next month when summer school ends I will cut back to two days a week until the fall quarter begins, then its back to four days. Other then that I'm not doing much, if my hours increase to full-time then I might switch to a van pool. I just paid off my Honda Element so I don't want to get a new car again for a few years. Maybe when the Volt or some other electric car is released I will consider buying again.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: August 13, 2008, 04:14:38 PM »
The last few weeks I have mostly been listening to field recordings I made in Indonesia back in the 1990s. I'm transferring all my DAT tapes to my computer, after which I will burn them to CD for archiving and listening. Currently I'm listening to a recording I made in Java of Gamelan Sekatan from the Kraton Solo (central Java royal court) from 1994.

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Now reading
« on: August 13, 2008, 02:08:04 PM »
I'm currently reading Stay Off the Skyline by Laura Homan Lacey. A oral history book about the U.S. 6th Marine Division's invasion of Okinawa during WWII. My father was a part of that invasion, he never talked about it much and after now reading some of the book I can understand why. If he experienced half the stuff the survivors talk about in that book I'd probably want to forget it too. Not for the faint of heart.

Manuel will be performing in LA next year.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Wonderful World of Gamelan
« on: August 06, 2008, 05:34:31 PM »
About the last question I asked  up there, about the birds chirping, what do you think?

"Also wanted to mention, was listening to Volume V of the series and on the first track there is an exquisitely beautiful passage where a distant tropical bird begins to sing, and it seems that this bird is working along with the music. Later, more birds join in, and maybe I am hallucinating, or it is wishful thinking, but it feels like the Gamelan is playing along with their cries, or vice versa! Have you ever noticed this phenomenon?"

Sorry I thought it was a rhetorical question. I haven't heard this CD but my feeling is you are hallucinating.  ;D  In a very tropical place like Java its hard to get away from the sounds of nature, especially where a gamelan is recorded. It's done in a special building called a pendopo, its open on three sides, usually made of marble, stone or other hard objects and has very high ceilings and gives it that kind of watery sound quality. Because of its openness birds, frogs and insects tend to use it as much as anyone else so they tend to become part of the sound fabric of these recordings. Here's a picture of a pendopo in one of the royal courts:

Of course this reminds me of some stories I have heard about the beginnings of gamelan. One being an early version of gamelan actually mimicked the sound of frogs. You can kind of get the idea if you listen to frogs in Java how this might be the case.

Years ago I made a recording at the Mangkunegaran royal court which from your discription has a simlar quality. Their were birds flying in and out of the pendopo during this performance and upon listening to the recording later on it added to the whole of the sound. Of course it has special meaning to me having been there at the time. As I type this I am in the process of dubbing all my field recordings that I did back in the 1990s from the original dat tapes they are on and putting them into my computer. I'll have to make sure I add that recording to my list of dubs for tomorrow. :)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Forum members on
« on: August 06, 2008, 03:58:48 PM »
Thanks for checking Rob. Their should be more up soon as I am in the process of releasing my first two cassette only albums as downloadable releases. Maybe by the end of this month my first album Point of Arrival will be ready for download.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Forum members on
« on: August 06, 2008, 02:19:13 PM »
I believe my music is up there but I don't have a subscription so I can't check myself.

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