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To me its probably the best thing he has done. Having said that, I just heard from Barry that the copies that Hypnos and CD Baby currently have will probably be the only ones offered for sale.  :o So, if this artist interests you I would suggest you get your copy ASAP.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Downloading Music and Rights
« on: April 19, 2009, 06:21:11 PM »

Sure the production is a physical process, however what you buy is the experience...
But With your logic , if I buy an Steve Roach album I should also pay for his studio equipment and his time ?
If I buy an album I would in that case need to know how many hours he have spent to create the "product" and what studio equipment (ingredients) he have used
to create the final form otherwise how should I determine it's financial value ???
And how much is his time really worth ?

For Terraform it was about 15 days of work, about 10 hours a day, so that comes to 150 hours. At the bargin basement price of lets say $50 an hour for studio time that would come to $3000. You can send me that amount as a check or via my paypal account, I'll make sure to give Steve his half the next time I see him.  ;D

But as I said, I do not agree with your statement, that artists release less music because of internet.  Look at Robert Rich for example he did just release an 8CD live archive.

You still have to buy them.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Ungrounded outlets and equipment safety
« on: April 13, 2009, 04:27:43 PM »
Your studio should be properly grounded, and ground lifting should only be temporary until the actual problem is fixed. My first studio was in a space with no grounding and I use to get shocked when I would touch two or more pieces of equipment or walked around in my bare feet. Once I grounded the space that stopped happening.

Your speaker problem sounds to me like its not related to the grounding issue, but as you suspect to the loud noise. You probably damaged the speaker, then it was just a matter of time before it completely died.

Since the Nebula CD hasn't been released yet, plus their is all the confusion as to which band is which I was thinking its not too late for yet another name change to perhaps Nebulous;D Not only does the term mean "hazy, vague, indistinct, or confused," but it also has a lesser known secondary meaning "of or resembling a nebula."  :)

Everything and Nothing / Re: US Copyright rant
« on: April 08, 2009, 08:46:55 AM »
Mike (Altus), nothing personal, I have no problem with you or anyone else going the CC route. You have to follow the path that is best for you. Just realize that not everyone will follow your example.

I am all for better ways of doing things, I just don't think CC is the answer in its present form, and my comments were mostly directed at Wayne's pros and cons post which came across to me as rather one sided. I can certainly understand his frustration with copyright laws on one level. On another I think he's throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

Everything and Nothing / Re: US Copyright rant
« on: April 07, 2009, 11:33:43 AM »
I have to say I am one of those artist that makes a small amount of money from royalites and sales but not enough to live on. And for the last couple of years when I have been struggling just to pay the bills, the few hundred dollars I have gotten from my music has been greatly appreciated and has actually helped me out of some dire times.

Everything and Nothing / Re: US Copyright rant
« on: April 07, 2009, 09:25:47 AM »

4:  (This is my favorite.)  In the present day, there are many more ways for a musician to make money, other than royalties or selling cds or downloads.  The sales are dropping on all fronts, even theft is down.  The point is to find other avenues.

I don't buy any of your pros (pun intended), particularly this one. What other ways are their to make money off of our music that didn't exist in the past? I think the opposite is true, even your second sentence contradicts that first sentence. I just don't understand why one would want to cut off a potential income stream in this day and age when its harder to make any money off of your music.

Besides, if I was in this to make money, I'd play in a country band. 

Why does one have to make popular music to make a bit of money? Why can't I be compensated for my hard work?

2:  The whole copyright/licensure principle is set up by and for big record companies.  It's the only way to get around the stranglehold large corporations have on the industry.

I think I could just as easily argue that CC was set up by big radio so they don't have to pay royalites to artists whenever they play a song. It would be a huge benefit to large radio corporations if they didn't have to pay out mechanical royalites. So who is right here, you for spreading a rumor you picked up on some internet site, or me for starting a new rumor that makes as much sense as yours?

Everything and Nothing / Re: US Copyright rant
« on: April 05, 2009, 09:59:11 PM »
Creative Commons is the way to go in my opinion...

Yep, pretty much the way to go if you don't plan to make any money or want to give up most of your rights to your music.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 02:03:43 PM »
Often it is the user itself that make Vista a nightmare it works flawlessly here..
You need a lot of tweaking to get the most out of it...

Funny how my "toy" "plastic looking thing" that I used to make parts of Terraform worked flawlessly out of the box without any tweaking needed. I guess I am a fool for "throwing my money away" at a machine that does the job and lets me get to work instead of spending hours hunting down bugs or new drivers for a flawed operating system that was rushed out too soon.  ;D

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 01:50:29 PM »

The only thing I will warn you about is that there are no two track editors equal to either Sound Forge or Wavelab in the Mac world. I have tried Bias and I could not stand it. I actually know of a few high end mastering engineers who purchased PCs just to run these programs.

Actually their are quite a few two track editors and/or mastering programs such as:

Waveburner which comes free with Logic is pretty good CD burning program.

Waveeditor is the cheapest and is getting new features every day.

DSP Quattro is pretty inexpensive and is also getting more features.

Peak Pro 6 which is getting better.

PreMaster CD

Which is a cut down version of SoundBlade.

The last two being pro mastering apps so they are quite expensive.

I mainly use Peak 5 (haven't done the upgrade yet, maybe this summer) and Waveburner. I've been using Peak since 1.6 so I know it pretty well, before that it was Sound Designer and Masterlist CD. Both are long gone now.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 01:26:42 PM »
Phew !    :D

Now look what you started!  :P ;D

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 08:31:44 AM »

Ok I still have a high opinion of you.  :)  ;D

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 30, 2009, 04:27:59 PM »
The iMac you're looking at has twice the RAM and twice the hard drive space, compared to the $1199 refurbished model Apple is offering, so aside from the financing issue the newer machine has some benefits for the money.

I didn't take RAM and hard drive space into consideration so good points. But in defense I almost always buy third party RAM and install it myself as its much cheaper. You can also buy an external firewire hard drive to make up the difference, I usually use a second hard drive just to store my audio files.

APK I hope you were joking, no  ;D or  :P so I couldn't tell for sure, and I have a much higher opinion of you . . .  or should I say had?  ;)

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 30, 2009, 08:53:18 AM »
Yes an iMac can work for audio. I don't use one (I still have my old G5 desktop) but I know lots of people who do use one, and at the college I use to teach we had several set up for students to use with Pro Tools.

If you need a firewire 400 connection and don't mind a bit slower machine and would like to spend less, check out this refurbished model at the Apple online store:

With the money you save from buying the refurbished iMac you can get Logic Express. If you know someone who works or goes to a local college you can save a few bucks on new Macs and software. The full version of Logic is half off at their on line education store. Heck you could try it yourself, just type in your local community college and try buying something. I've used their education store to buy most of my products from them and I have never been asked for any form of proof.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: March 26, 2009, 04:45:20 PM »
That Ursa Major unit looks particularly cool.  I remember seeing a brochure for that many years ago, but never actually saw one in person.  Also nice to see your vintage Emu gear.  I still use my Emu sound modules, especially the Morpheus.

Thanks Forest. The Ursa Major is pretty cool, given its age. Yeah I still use all those Emu modules, even my Emax II sampler at times. The Morpheus I like, it kind of bookmarks the Wavestation in my mind, both good at making long evolving pads but in different ways. I still have to set up my keyboards and patch a few things here and there but its getting their.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: March 25, 2009, 12:41:44 PM »
I just finished revamping my studio, I moved it to a bigger room and also pulled the old mixer out of storage and have put it back in service. Other then that not much different except for the layout and location. So here is the latest version:

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Tetsu Inoue
« on: March 16, 2009, 11:54:51 AM »

Now somebody tell me, pray... can I get a witness?: do I absolutely have to seek out Slow and Low at all costs, or will my life still be liveable to the full without it? And what's with Waterloo Terminal?

If you like Ambiant Otaku and Organic Cloud then you should probably also get  Slow and Low. I also think World Receiver is worth getting. Waterloo Terminal I never really liked, I think it was one of his first in his glitch phase. It's been awhile though so I should probably give it a listen again.

Did you read that he quited making music because of illegal downloads in russia?
Such a fool.

It's pretty dishearting to find your music posted all over the internet for free the week after your CD is released, and then to watch your record company struggle to break even. Forget about making a profit, this music is hard enough sell as it is. Personally I think its the person uploading the media who is the real fool.

Hypnos Label Releases / Re: A Produce & Loren Nerell, Intangible
« on: March 07, 2009, 01:34:47 PM »
Good timing, Barry and I got together yesterday to work on some matrial, although not much really came of it as we mainly just reviewed what we have done so far and talked about direction. Yes we have I believe five tracks so far which adds up to around 42 minutes of matrial.  We are thinking maybe a couple of more tracks and we will be finished.  Stay tuned.  :)

Also you can check out about 30 pictures from "Concierto Homenaje a Jorge Reyes" on, but I think you have to register first. Here is the link, it's a page of my Mexican amigo, Julio Cesar Martinez, who collaborated with Jorge on his soundscape CDs.

You have to register with either link. Any other way to see the pics? I wish I had known about the tribute before the concert had happened.

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