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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach discussion
« on: March 26, 2008, 07:28:56 PM »
I don't think I'd have to be "highly" cynical unless I had good reason to be, and judging by the fact the label itself is stuck with what, 1,000 copies that aren't selling forcing them to practically give it away,

How do you know they are stuck with "1,000 copies?" I doubt they even printed that many. You are making assumptions based upon little to nothing, you are making a mountain out of a mole hill.

and then discovering, by coincidence, 80 sets of only the other two discs...when I read the "explanation" for all of this my intelligence was insulted.

If agreeing with you that you are being cynical is an insult then I suggest to you to develop a thicker skin.

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach discussion
« on: March 26, 2008, 02:27:34 PM »
Just an FYI for those who don't get the news letter. For the last month or so I've been uploading to youtube various Steve Roach videos. Their are some concerts of Steve, including a living room concert with the band Suspended Memories, some interviews, and some out-of-print video art from the 1980s. I'll be putting out more in the near future but to see what's up now you can go here to see them all:

http://youtube.com/user/steveroachdotcom

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach discussion
« on: March 26, 2008, 02:22:08 PM »
The description states Projekt decided to scrap the idea of reissuing the other two to "focus on other SR projects."  Is this really the case?  . . .   Sorry, I guess my cynicism sometimes gets the best of me.

Yes it really is the case and yes you are highly cynical.  ;D

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Worlds most expensive musical instrument
« on: March 26, 2008, 11:13:18 AM »
Well it really has only one sound, a very loud sound at that.  :D I think they need to add "Louie Louie" to its list of tunes, then it could be a real party machine.  ;D

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Everything and Nothing / Worlds most expensive musical instrument
« on: March 25, 2008, 11:53:29 PM »
They spent hundreds of millions of dollars on this thing and this is all it can do?  ??? ;D


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Everything and Nothing / Re: Advice on computer repair
« on: March 24, 2008, 10:49:22 AM »
If you feel up to the task of rebuilding the computer then I'd check ebay or a computer parts place for a replacement screen. Its a freebie so its a good choice for attempting a self repair. Otherwise do what Mike suggested or give it to one of those computer recycle shops so it can get sent to China so they can have more lead to send back to us on our childrens toys.  :P

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: March 22, 2008, 08:58:37 PM »
More studio pics, this time Robert Rich's studio from about five years ago:




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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: 24/16bit Downloadable Loop Packs
« on: March 21, 2008, 10:33:59 AM »
I had great hope for BeOS back in the 1990s, what are you using that for these days James? I didn't know it was still around.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: 24/16bit Downloadable Loop Packs
« on: March 21, 2008, 10:01:16 AM »
What no Apple loops?  ;D I know, their's no pleasing some people.  :P  Good luck with this James, sounds like an interesting idea, maybe I should start selling some gamelan loops.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: State of the music business
« on: March 19, 2008, 01:22:20 PM »
Loren, thanks for looking more into the .iso format. Perhaps I'm not as idealistic about it as I was before.  It's frustrating that there is a standard and yet companies don't adhere to it even when they use that "standard".

That's not the problem, the problem is the ISO "standard" is not for audio CDs, the ISO standard is for CDroms. Actually their is a standard for redbook CDs called Disc Description Protocol (DDP), but its not the answer you are looking for as its mainly used for disc replication. Here's a discription of DDP:

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Disc Description Protocol (DDP) files are delivered as data on a CD-ROM or DVD-ROM. The error correction employed on data discs is designed to be more robust than that of audio CDs. This ensures that the audio master that the plant gets will not have any errors in the data.

I don't think many if any cheap CD burning software (ie Toast, Nero, etc) supports it.

I've never heard any "jittering" either.

Jitter is a clock issue, the analog world equivilant would be wow and flutter to a lesser degree.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: State of the music business
« on: March 19, 2008, 11:45:02 AM »
Its not looking good for your ISO, when I did a google search asking what is ISO I came up with this:

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Going by the more restrictive definition, an "ISO" is created by copying an entire disc, from sector 0 to the end, into a file. Because the image file contains "cooked" 2048-byte sectors and nothing else, it isn't possible to store anything but a single data track in this fashion. Audio tracks, mixed-mode discs, CD+G, multisession, and other fancy formats can't be represented.


It seems most CD burning software have developed their own ways of working around this, but its not a standard as their are several variations. You can read the whole text here:

http://www.magiciso.com/tutorials/miso-whatiso.htmhttp://

Getting back to CDr vs CD, this just came up on one of the mastering forums I frequently visit. Someone complained that the replicated CDs he gets back from the plant sound better then the CDrs he burns at his studio. After doing a null test it appears that his CDrs are prone to have jitter when they are burned, producing a smeared sound compared to the replicated CDs.

Also t appears that 1x & 2x rates are not the ideal burn rates anymore, unless you have an old CD burner from the 1990s. These days CDs should be burned at half the max speed of the CD burner, that apparently is the optimal speed. Also it seems most prefer their blank CDrs to be Taiyo Yuden silver media, which they claim to get the best results from for audio.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: State of the music business
« on: March 15, 2008, 09:00:43 PM »
There's no difference in the 1's and 0's going onto the disc.   

Actually its not 1's and 0's, its dots and dashes, at least at the CD level. And that's where the problem lies, burning a disc too fast and the dashes look like dots and the dots are too small. At too slow a speed the dots become dashes. As the dye fades its harder to tell which is which.

Quote from: Vir Unis
I like what Johnny Greenwood (Radiohead) said about audio....

Sounds like the kind of thing I would expect from someone who's last disc when mastered was compressed so much that it sounds all distorted and flat.  :P I think he's just saying that so he doesn't have to pay for another pressing.  ;D

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Everything and Nothing / Re: State of the music business
« on: March 12, 2008, 09:56:09 AM »
when I was 15-25, I NEVER listened to the music my parents listened to.  No one could even imagine a party in 1979 where everyone was sitting around listening to Nat King Cole, Buck Owens, or Stan Getz.  I do now, but back then, no way.  We had our own music to listen to.

I can concur that, in fact I remember it going so far as you were identified by your favorite band.

Quote from: APK
My experience of CDs is that both CDr and pressed CDs last equally well ... in fact I've had more trouble with pressed ones going bad in my collection.

My experience is 180 degrees different. Most of the bad discs I have bought over the years that no longer work are CDrs, including the few Atmos discs I own, and its not because of scratches its because the dye has faded over time. CDrs are more susceptible to UV damage, when I worked for Philips Media we tested this out. We burned two discs, one we put away out of the sun, the other we put in a window with the dye side exposed. After about a month you could see the difference, the color was not as bright as the control disc. And when we attempted to play them the exposed disc had many more errors then the one we didn't expose to the sun.

Quote from: Vir Unis
There is no real difference in audio quality due to the actual disc itself.  In fact, if anyone is sitting there straining to hear the supposed "differences" between the two then they are really missing out on the experience the music offers.  It's all about the mastering.

Not quite true, I have heard differences in burned and pressed CDs. The difference mainly being in the way the disc is burned. If you burn a disc at too fast a rate then you get more errors and a worse sound. If a disc is burned at an optimal rate then their should be no real difference. Of course mastering is important but has no relevance in a debate between the differences of CDrs and pressed CDs.

Personally I think if you are going to go to all the trouble of having discs burned and printed at a factory then why not go the whole way and have them pressed?

Of course the funny part is I am typing this in my new office which contains multiply CDr duplicators, along with some old cassette duplicators and some DAT recorders.  :P Anyone wants some copies made?  ;D

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PS If you are in the links section of the site and want to be updated, just let me know


You can start by updating my link to www.lorennerell.com. BTW impressive collection of CDs you have their.

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Too bad Laura Escudé and Kathie Talbot's set was plagued with technical glitches galore complete with incredibly poor graphics. They had so much potential and I loved Kathie's voice and her Louise Brooks bob hairdo.

I think the guy with the red laptop was doing graphics, not the best I have seen. It seems that Laura's new soundcard was the problem as it crashed on her once just before the show started. Then once they got started everything was distorted as well. After the second crash it seemed to work better. Hopefully next time they will have better luck.

Robert Rich had the right idea nixing laptops and sticking with his Korg's and MOTM modular. 

Robert did have a laptop running ableton live but he could still do stuff if his computer went down, unlike the two artists before him.

His set was by far the best of the three, too bad so many people split in the middle of it. Too trendy for the room I guess.

Yeah that was strange, except that most of the people who got up and left the room came back after the concert was over. I was sitting in the back next to the door so I saw everyone come back in. I guess they wanted to chat or something else.

It was a good show and I had a great time catching up with Robert and everyone afterwards, met some great people. I didn't get home until almost 2 am.  ;D

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Everything and Nothing / Re: What are your plans and goals in 2008?
« on: March 05, 2008, 12:54:41 AM »
Get a job. The rest I will think about once I can pay the bills. :(

Goal number one for 2008 has been achieved I am happy to say. I was officially hired today by my old alma mater. I am now a "recording technician" for the music department at UCLA. What that means is I am one of two guys who records all the concerts and recitals that occur in the music building.  :) Its only part-time but I found out that I might be able to make up extra hours by doing audio work for other departments, and their is the possibility that it might become full-time in the future. Another very rare bonus these days is it comes with full benefits.

Thanks to everyone who wished me well, and also to those who helped me out last December by taking some of my gear off my hands when I really needed the help.

Now, I think the next step is to start losing some weight.  ;D

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Is cable quality an issue when using digital signals?

Yes cable can make a difference with digital signals but in a different way then what this article is talking about.

Speakers are still (mostly) analog; does cheap wire make THAT much of a difference?  Or, as in the article, none at all?

I believe it can make a difference to a point. A local dealer gave me a demo which switched between a cheap generic speaker cable and a high end brands cheapest cable, price difference was around $100 between the two. When switching back and forth between them I could hear a difference. I have also heard major differences when I upgraded my studio cables a few years ago, but that mostly had to do with moving up to balanced cables from running mostly unbalanced cables before. The difference was their was much less noise in the signal chain.  Of course this kind of difference is not what this article is referring to.

So yes, cables can make a big difference. Having said that some of the mega expensive cables to me carry more voodoo then objective differences.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: March 03, 2008, 12:20:14 PM »
I forgot to mention my favorite Behringer product, the Behringer MIC2200 Ultragain Pro also known as the "fake tube" preamp. All the glow of tube electronics but none of the warmth.  ;D

http://www.record-producer.com/learn.cfm?a=2838

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: February 29, 2008, 07:36:00 PM »
The monitors are Behringer Truth B0231's. 

Behringer Truth, not thats an oxymoron if I have ever seen one.  ;D

Basically they are generic Mackie HR824's.  For $300, they are a great deal!

Great deal because they have no development costs to consider so they can sell stuff super cheap, as all they do is rip off other companies designs. True story, about a year ago I was on their job forum, of the 20 or so jobs they were advertising at the time 3/4 of them I kid you not were for photo copying.  ::)

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Ambient Sub-genres
« on: February 28, 2008, 11:48:52 AM »
Someone once called my music "gambient," a cross between gamelan and ambient.

Sandbient - ambient music made by sanders.
blandbient - I think this one is obvious.  ;D

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