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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: I am trying to imagine...
« on: November 12, 2008, 02:33:13 PM »
Alright have read the articles now, brings some really interesting information

Alright adds these to my wish list :)

Oberheim - Xpander
Oberheim - Matrix
Lexicon - PCM-91
Lexicon - PCM-70
Eventide 4000
Eventide 3000
Korg Kaoss Pad
(did I miss something ?)

Steve Roach gray matter transfer?  :P ;D

Actually what you are missing is the point. You don't need to copy Steve's gear list, you need a better understanding of how he does what he does. A lot of people make this mistake with other artists that use technology, they think the technology is the key, but once they get the tools they are lost. The real answer is in how one uses these tools.

In a strange way I feel personally that I have been through the ruff times and am about to come out on the other side. I use to teach part-time at two community colleges and worked at a music store also part-time. About two years ago in one two week period I lost all three jobs. I ended up doing mostly temp work, and had eight different jobs and was on unemployment for four months during 2007. Near the beginning of this year I got my current job, a part-time position at a local university working as a recording technician in the music school.  And now it looks like within the next few months I will be going full-time. Itís been a hard road but I think I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel.

As far as how the bad economy has affected us here, we have felt it a bit but it has mostly to do with the state budget problems then anything else. Scheduled pay increases are on hold until further notice. We had to lay off one person in our department, their should be five of us but at this time their are only three, and with the up coming retirement of one individual we will be down to two, although this is only until we can hire two more people so it should only be for a short time period.

By the way, GM is planning to unveil an electric car in the next few years, if it is still a functioning company.

GM did that back in the 1990s here in California. They had a lot of interest, with long lines of people ready to take delivery of a Saturn EV. In response GM refused to sell anyone a car and would only lease them. They then bitched and moaned about the state mandate that required electric cars, and once the lease was up they then took every car back and destroyed them instead of selling them to their lease holders. They even pretty much gave up on hybrid technology when they were the world leaders. Because of this I have very little sympathy to GM and the other big three, they only thought about the short term and have pretty much driven themselves into a ditch.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: I am trying to imagine...
« on: November 11, 2008, 04:44:24 PM »
Just a follow up, here are a couple of articles that talk about how Steve works in the studio.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: I am trying to imagine...
« on: November 10, 2008, 10:57:59 AM »
Right now when I listen to Steve Roach's masterpiece album "Labyrinth" I really try to imagine what these soundworlds what sounds like WITHOUT the all the effects and reverbs etc, I am simply interested to know what the sourcesounds sounds like...75% of the sound is the expression of effects especially reverbs..

Asking Steve to produce his sound sources without effects is sort of like asking a fashion designer to put on a fashion show only in their underwear.  ;D As I said in that interview the way Steve works he treats the effects as part of the whole sound, so his tracks are recorded already with verb and other effects as part of the track, he doesn't add much later so it would be difficult to hear just the original sound sources.

I know he use kind of old analogue equipment that I imagine sounds very bad or nothing similar without heavy use of digital effects such as a good amount of reverb...

Bad sounds? I think maybe this was maybe a poor choice of words? Reverb can certainly help a sound but I don't think it can fix a bad sound. As they say garbage in, garbage out.


Each registered voter gets one ballot, with a code number and barcode on it, and it's mailed to your registration address.  Ballots are not accepted without a valid code number, and there is no way that more than one ballot with the same code number on it may be counted.

In Oregon how does one vote if they are homeless? Just wondering, I think its a valid question. Basically if it increases voter participation I am for it.

On the subject of early voting, we had it here in California, but their was only one voting place per county. So you had to drive to where ever the polls where and then you had to wait in line, Here in LA county it was at least a five hour wait to vote.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Concession speech = classy
« on: November 05, 2008, 10:07:55 AM »
I thought both speeches were very good. The way a hard fought campaign should end.

I went to vote on my way to work at 8:30 this morning. Only one person in line in front of me, but all of the voting stations where full which is unusual in itself. No big deal for me, in and out in ten minutes or less.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Intel vs AMD DAW
« on: November 02, 2008, 10:51:49 AM »
I don't condone Microsoft's advertising approach either, BUT at least they haven't just hired a cute guy and expect us to make our choice based on the fact that one guy is young and 'good looking' and the other guy is portly, older and a dag, like the mac ads.

For the record I didn't buy a mac because Apple has some young 'good looking' guy (that guy is good looking?) as a mac. I bought one because for what it does and how it works. Also that older 'dag' guy (whatever that means) is a fairly well known comic here in the states. He's been on a few TV shows (The Daily Show for one) and is known for playing those kinds of characters. Also, neither Microsoft or Apple "hired" those guys for their ads, they hired ad agencies who made the ads and then hired the talent.

Quote from: deepspace
It's just hard to make the switch- I'm just so used to PC and so many (present company excluded I HOPE) mac users are just can I put this...... let me put it this way: they think Photoshop is a game, and that golf online would be a brilliant idea, and their idea of great entertainment is putting up slideshows of themselves on holiday in the bahamas at dinner parties.

Isn't this basically the same thing that you were complaining about Apple's ad campaign above? You are making a judgment on a computer based upon who you perceive mac users are and not upon what the computer can do. I think its fine to use a PC for anything you want if it works for you, but your smugness towards a product is something you might want to reconsider.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Intel vs AMD DAW
« on: October 30, 2008, 12:15:44 PM »
Or one could argue that having XP and OSX on one system, by moving back and forth you can use the best of both worlds as needed.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Intel vs AMD DAW
« on: October 30, 2008, 11:21:52 AM »
I'm thinking of upgrading and going back to an Intel chip, probably a quad core.  And no, I'm not thinking of going mac. ;)

But Mac is Intel now.  ;D

Everything and Nothing / Re: Who you will vote ?
« on: October 29, 2008, 11:41:11 AM »

You might want to take a look at The "free for all" section of this Forum thread to see why Mike closed your thread:

As I said originally in that thread, I was never a big fan of that section but I think it served a useful purpose. And I think closing it was a bit of a mistake. There is no reason that people cannot be civil when discussing religion or politics. I think it would have been better to ban the persons on a temporary basis who were abusing the system. But then again I'm not in charge or a moderator so I don't have to deal with the fallout on a day-to-day basis.

Everything and Nothing / Re: CD player advice
« on: October 19, 2008, 11:26:33 AM »
I just went through this same problem with my 20 year old single disc player. Your problem could be a dirty lens or it could be your laser has finally died, you won't know unless you try cleaning the lens, it might fix the problem or it might not, no guarantee. As for replacing it, you could do what I did, head over to your local Good Will or other thrift store and find another one. I picked up an Onkyo player for $14 which plays perfectly, it even has a digital output.  :) As for new, I know Yamaha still makes a carrousel CD player that is suppose to be pretty good.


Here's all I've been able to do so far...and I think I'm "almost there"...but still encountering some weirdness:

1. Installed the NRV10 on to my Mac. In the Audio/MIDI devices section of the System Preferences, I have the NRV10 as my audio input/output device set to the main "multichannel" configuration.

2. Connected the AN1x and the Virus to the 4x4 according to the quick card instructions (AN1x OUT to the 4x4 IN / 4x4 OUT to the AN1x IN : Virus OUT to the 4x4 IN / 4x4 OUT to the Virus IN).

You didn't mention if you setup the midi also in Audio/MIDI devices. You need to do that as well with all your midi gear. The C4 doesn't that hookup via USB?

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: TUU
« on: September 25, 2008, 11:05:25 AM »
Loren, your comment about my website made me laugh. I feel the same about artists websites that are not updated very often myself, but, man, I've been busy!

I know what you mean Martin, if someone were to just look at my website they would probably say the same thing, but as I write this I have five different projects going on, not to mention my day job. I guess that means we should both at least keep our update date up to date.  ;D

Gook luck with all your projects, and if someday you need a little gamelan heat for your frozen lands, let me know.  :)

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: TUU
« on: September 20, 2008, 07:03:42 PM »
The last Tuu CD was released in 1999 on Amplexus. Martin Franklin hasn't done anything remotely like Tuu since then and appears to have not done much music at all. Heck nothing has even been posted on his website for nearly a year, so who knows if anything is going on. BTW here's his website as it stands:

I used Cubase for years, at least 10 or more. I finally got tired of some of the work arounds I had to do with Cubase that didn't make sense plus at the time Mac users were taking a back seat to the PC version (I seem to remember waiting nearly a year for an update that PC users got), so I switched to Logic and haven't looked back. I should note I haven't used Cubase 4 so maybe all the issues I had with VST or SX have been settled.

That mixer should work well for you as its a mixer and audio interface for your computer. I would also recommend getting a midi interface, something like these:

At the very least get a 2x2 but if you can get enough money together I would go for a 4x4 for future growth. BTW you can find these used on craig's list or ebay for quite a bit less.

Also, I would think about switching to Logic since you are using a mac.

Everything and Nothing / Re: RIP Richard Wright
« on: September 16, 2008, 12:55:29 PM »
I saw them again a few years later at the infamous Sports Arena concerts(talk about second-hand smoke!) with the 'revolutionary' quadrophonic sound system.

I also saw that show, it was either the first or second rock show I ever went to (I can't remember if it was Pink Floyd or The Who). I saw them at Anaheim stadium for the Animals tour, at the Sports Arena again for The Wall, and also at the Forum for Momentary Lapse of Reason. Pink Floyd was probably my favorite band, and Rick was a hero to me. He will be missed.  :'(

Everything and Nothing / Re: The "free for all" section of this Forum
« on: September 10, 2008, 10:43:35 PM »
I missed all the fuss, probably because I haven't visited that section in weeks. Personally I won't miss it much because I hardly ever went to that section, but my fear now is those kind of arguments will start to appear back in this section of the forum. And if I remember correctly that was why the free for all section was started in the first place.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Recording fee advice needed asap
« on: September 10, 2008, 09:58:15 AM »
That would be my preference, but the money man has already said he just wants the rights and no later legal again he'll get the quote - with the £650 a minute figure thrown in to begin with ;D

I think that amount for a buy out is way too low. The last buy out I did I got around $2000 for 10 minutes of music, and that was ten years ago. Don't give up your music for peanuts, if he wants to pay next to nothing then he should get next to nothing. At that price he should only get the right to use your music with the book only if it stays diy, and no copywrite ownership period. 

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