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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 02:03:43 PM »
Often it is the user itself that make Vista a nightmare it works flawlessly here..
You need a lot of tweaking to get the most out of it...

Funny how my "toy" "plastic looking thing" that I used to make parts of Terraform worked flawlessly out of the box without any tweaking needed. I guess I am a fool for "throwing my money away" at a machine that does the job and lets me get to work instead of spending hours hunting down bugs or new drivers for a flawed operating system that was rushed out too soon.  ;D

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 01:50:29 PM »

The only thing I will warn you about is that there are no two track editors equal to either Sound Forge or Wavelab in the Mac world. I have tried Bias and I could not stand it. I actually know of a few high end mastering engineers who purchased PCs just to run these programs.

Actually their are quite a few two track editors and/or mastering programs such as:

Waveburner which comes free with Logic is pretty good CD burning program.

Waveeditor is the cheapest and is getting new features every day.

DSP Quattro is pretty inexpensive and is also getting more features.

Peak Pro 6 which is getting better.

PreMaster CD

Which is a cut down version of SoundBlade.

The last two being pro mastering apps so they are quite expensive.

I mainly use Peak 5 (haven't done the upgrade yet, maybe this summer) and Waveburner. I've been using Peak since 1.6 so I know it pretty well, before that it was Sound Designer and Masterlist CD. Both are long gone now.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 01:26:42 PM »
Phew !    :D

Now look what you started!  :P ;D

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 08:31:44 AM »

Ok I still have a high opinion of you.  :)  ;D

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 30, 2009, 04:27:59 PM »
The iMac you're looking at has twice the RAM and twice the hard drive space, compared to the $1199 refurbished model Apple is offering, so aside from the financing issue the newer machine has some benefits for the money.

I didn't take RAM and hard drive space into consideration so good points. But in defense I almost always buy third party RAM and install it myself as its much cheaper. You can also buy an external firewire hard drive to make up the difference, I usually use a second hard drive just to store my audio files.

APK I hope you were joking, no  ;D or  :P so I couldn't tell for sure, and I have a much higher opinion of you . . .  or should I say had?  ;)

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 30, 2009, 08:53:18 AM »
Yes an iMac can work for audio. I don't use one (I still have my old G5 desktop) but I know lots of people who do use one, and at the college I use to teach we had several set up for students to use with Pro Tools.

If you need a firewire 400 connection and don't mind a bit slower machine and would like to spend less, check out this refurbished model at the Apple online store:

With the money you save from buying the refurbished iMac you can get Logic Express. If you know someone who works or goes to a local college you can save a few bucks on new Macs and software. The full version of Logic is half off at their on line education store. Heck you could try it yourself, just type in your local community college and try buying something. I've used their education store to buy most of my products from them and I have never been asked for any form of proof.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: March 26, 2009, 04:45:20 PM »
That Ursa Major unit looks particularly cool.  I remember seeing a brochure for that many years ago, but never actually saw one in person.  Also nice to see your vintage Emu gear.  I still use my Emu sound modules, especially the Morpheus.

Thanks Forest. The Ursa Major is pretty cool, given its age. Yeah I still use all those Emu modules, even my Emax II sampler at times. The Morpheus I like, it kind of bookmarks the Wavestation in my mind, both good at making long evolving pads but in different ways. I still have to set up my keyboards and patch a few things here and there but its getting their.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: March 25, 2009, 12:41:44 PM »
I just finished revamping my studio, I moved it to a bigger room and also pulled the old mixer out of storage and have put it back in service. Other then that not much different except for the layout and location. So here is the latest version:

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Tetsu Inoue
« on: March 16, 2009, 11:54:51 AM »

Now somebody tell me, pray... can I get a witness?: do I absolutely have to seek out Slow and Low at all costs, or will my life still be liveable to the full without it? And what's with Waterloo Terminal?

If you like Ambiant Otaku and Organic Cloud then you should probably also get  Slow and Low. I also think World Receiver is worth getting. Waterloo Terminal I never really liked, I think it was one of his first in his glitch phase. It's been awhile though so I should probably give it a listen again.

Did you read that he quited making music because of illegal downloads in russia?
Such a fool.

It's pretty dishearting to find your music posted all over the internet for free the week after your CD is released, and then to watch your record company struggle to break even. Forget about making a profit, this music is hard enough sell as it is. Personally I think its the person uploading the media who is the real fool.

Hypnos Label Releases / Re: A Produce & Loren Nerell, Intangible
« on: March 07, 2009, 01:34:47 PM »
Good timing, Barry and I got together yesterday to work on some matrial, although not much really came of it as we mainly just reviewed what we have done so far and talked about direction. Yes we have I believe five tracks so far which adds up to around 42 minutes of matrial.  We are thinking maybe a couple of more tracks and we will be finished.  Stay tuned.  :)

Also you can check out about 30 pictures from "Concierto Homenaje a Jorge Reyes" on, but I think you have to register first. Here is the link, it's a page of my Mexican amigo, Julio Cesar Martinez, who collaborated with Jorge on his soundscape CDs.

You have to register with either link. Any other way to see the pics? I wish I had known about the tribute before the concert had happened.

Everything and Nothing / Re: List of words it is not OK to ever say
« on: February 27, 2009, 11:36:33 AM »
Any other words it is not OK to ever say?


You get major kudos from me if you know the reference that is from.  ;D

Everything and Nothing / Re: Jon Hassell and Dhafer Yussef in Concert
« on: February 15, 2009, 05:02:21 PM »
I didn't know he was on tour. Wonder if he's coming (or already played) here in Seattle.

Vancouver was your best bet, that's as close as he came to Seattle and it was the last stop on his North American tour.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Jon Hassell and Dhafer Yussef in Concert
« on: February 15, 2009, 01:03:06 PM »
Yes the night before I saw this exact show in Los Angeles at the lovely Royce Hall, UCLA, lucky for me I was in the perfect spot to see the show, six row dead center. 

Youssef was a very pleasant surprise, no one I knew was expecting it, he was very heady and energetic. Then Jon and the band came out and blew us all away. Such a delicate set of music from something mostly electronic based. Jon set a new bar for restraint and refinement with lots of energy in a live concert environment. I kept thinking in the movie Blade Runner if their had been an opium den, then Jon and his band would have been the house band for it.

Speaking of Steve Roach, Steve flew in from Tucson for the day just to see the show. He and Jeff Fayman sat next to me. The only other ambient guy I saw at the show was Tom Heasley. After the show we got to speak to Jon very briefly, he mentioned he was flying into Vancouver that morning, they had a 4:30 AM flight, and that he had not slept in two days!  After that we decided to leave him alone so he could maybe get a bit of sleep before catching his flight. A great show, the highlight of the year so far.

Everything and Nothing / Re: What does your partner do?
« on: February 13, 2009, 03:52:49 PM »
Hey, Loren, when I was a member of Roxy Music, I wrote a song about that!

Yes I seem to remember that back when I was in Fleetwood Mac.  ;)

Everything and Nothing / Re: What does your partner do?
« on: February 12, 2009, 05:45:58 PM »
I'm currently unattached but my last girlfriend is a dancer. She's danced her way half way around the world and hasn't made it back.  :-\

Everything and Nothing / Re: Who do you look like?
« on: February 12, 2009, 09:47:54 AM »
I think Loren Nerell looks a bit like Mick Fleetwood.

That's not what Christine McVie & Stevie Nicks told me.  ;D

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ambient music and Mastering
« on: February 11, 2009, 05:18:01 PM »
The compressor consist of many different sound shaping elements, such as filters etc, all together makes an complete compressor.

Compressors use filters? Time to go back and relearn what actually is an audio compressor:

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Jorge Reyes (R.I.P.)
« on: February 10, 2009, 01:52:31 PM »
Its been a day now since I heard the news and I am still in a state of shock. I had the pleasure of meeting Jorge back in the early 1990s at Steve Roach's house right after Suspended Memories had completed recording their first album. That weekend they performed together live in Steve's living room for an Echos living room concert, I think it might have been one of the first in that series. As Forest said he was a very polite and focused person with a dry sense of humor. He will be missed. Time now to break out all his LPs and CDs and relive some nice memories.

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