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Everything and Nothing / Re: Eno on singing
« on: January 08, 2009, 03:54:48 PM »
So does this mean On Land was suppose to be the background to his acapella group?  ??? ;D

I had a brief conversation with Stephen Hill when he stopped by.  I remember him telling me that the success of more commercial releases such as those by John Boswell and the "Celtic Twilight" series helped to subsidize the releases on Fathom.  I doubt that there was any pressure placed by the HOS/Fathom label on Steve or Robert to commercialize their sound.

That is not what the artist on the label told me in conversation (I should point out this was not from just Steve & Robert I heard this, but from other artists as well). To be fair I think Stephen may remember it this way as from my understanding he was not the main person putting the pressure on the artists.

So I am curious, does anyone know the history behind this split in Hearts of Space, and was it prompted by complaints from the New Age listeners, or by the artists themselves, who were exploring the darker territories? It seems this shows a fundamental strangeness in the whole New Age movement, where the dark side of humanity and the universe is glossed over, or not acknowledged.

From my perspective which is admittedly pretty one sided (and 2nd or 3rd hand), it was pushed through by the Artists, particularly Roach and Rich, I think Sterns played a part as well. At the time the term New Age was already seeing a backlash in the media, so these artists wanted something that would differ them from Celtic harpists and other more New Age type HOS label mates.

The irony is from the birth of Fathom also came sort of its downfall, the Hearts O' Space Celtic music label (and another more pop oriented label called RGB). The Hearts O' Space label became over night the biggest seller in the HOS franchise, producing their first gold records. This success in turn then lead to some friction between the label and the Fathom artists. The label wanted the artists to produce music that would sell more product. But by this time it was actually too late as the whole ambient/chill room boom that had made this music some what popular had pretty much died, so sales were starting to tank for everyone. Not long after HOS sold out to a distributor, all that really remains is the HOS radio show.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Are you Synaesthetic? (test here)
« on: January 08, 2009, 10:13:42 AM »
A complete zero for me on the synaesthetic test as well. I've always thought synesthesia was over hyped.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Facebook vs. Myspace
« on: January 06, 2009, 09:23:05 AM »
It is, after all, a tool used by the CIA

Funny, now that you mention it most of my Facebook friends are from the California Institute of the Arts.  ;D

Everything and Nothing / Re: CD-R Deterioration
« on: January 04, 2009, 11:52:34 AM »
I use dBpoweramp to rip.  It uses the Accuraterip database and C1 error reporting from the CD/DVD-ROM among other things to produce a precise copy of the music files. . . . . I placed the Baghiri disc in my crappy home stereo CD player, and it seemed fine.

Do you have access to another CD/DVD-ROM that can rip your discs? I'm wondering if you current DVDrom is the problem and not the discs themselves, especially if they play fine in your regular CD player. If the laser is going bad you would probably get lots of errors, using a different DVDrom device to rip with would probably eliminate one or the other.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Facebook vs. Myspace
« on: January 03, 2009, 11:52:09 AM »
I'm on both. Facebook for me is more actual "friends" oriented, while MySpace is more of a way to expose my muisc. I've heard some people say that Facebook is better for posting events and such then MySpace.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Where are they now? another edition
« on: December 25, 2008, 11:57:13 AM »
A Produce (his last release was the 3-disc career retrospective)

Barry and I have been working on an album together for over a year now. We took a long break but are now back at it, about every other week or so.

Ruben Garcia (got a nice email from him after reviewing his career retro. CD; that was a few years ago)

I have a preliminary copy of a new album from Ruben called Through The Looking Glass. I imagine it will be out next year some time.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Kyma X (Do you still want to learn?)
« on: December 21, 2008, 11:29:11 AM »

Did you buy the used one yet? You might want to hold off as Symbolic is suppose to be releasing a new version very soon that is much more powerful and doesn't require pci cards anymore and is cheaper. I've thought about getting into one myself but they have always been just out of reach for me.

Everything and Nothing / Re: What music is
« on: December 18, 2008, 11:59:23 AM »
There is a discussion going on on the Wiard forum about what music is and if the classification music is unfair to what we do.

From my experience with the Wiard group forum I would expect the consensus answer to this question would be "whatever Grant Richter says is music."  ;D :P

I also like Gary's discription of music. Gary's been on the edge of this music for nearly 30 years and I had the pleasure of hearing Gary do a wonderful piece live on his massive Wiard system last year that I think just about anyone here would love. Here's a little known fact, Steve Roach's Structures From Silence was mixed at Gary's studio way back in the 1980's.

Everything and Nothing / Re: 2008 winter weather
« on: December 18, 2008, 11:47:22 AM »
Yesterday, there was snow in San Francisco, which was downright bizarre. 

I can report that we also had snow in parts of Los Angeles yesterday as well, very unusual. Not where I live but it nearly got cold enough here to snow as well. Our high was 50F, but once the rain started the temperatures dropped and by mid afternoon were in the low 40s.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: December 16, 2008, 11:38:42 AM »
That sounds interesting Loren.  Are you willing to reveal any more info about your project?

Yeah its no big deal. The schools conductor (I work at UCLA) is up for tenure, so I'm dubbing a bunch of recordings of concerts he's conducted over the years to show what's he's done. Most of them are on cassette and go back to the 1980s. Oh, the Vaughan-Williams piece was Fantasia on a Theme of Thomas  Tallis.

Right now I'm listening to the very first field recording I ever made. A recording I did in Guatemala in 1972 of a cheesy marimba band at a hotel I was staying.  :D

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: December 15, 2008, 12:55:19 PM »
I'm at work and am working on a project that requires me to listen to some old radio broadcasts of classical music concerts. Right now I'm listening to Vaughan-Williams, Prokofiev, and Britten. Not really ambient but what's coming through the speakers at this moment.  :)

Everything and Nothing / Re: Ergonomically speaking...
« on: November 21, 2008, 01:59:37 PM »
I will say that those mice with a trackball only for your thumb - holy cow those are evil!

I have to agree with you there, I had one of those my first year in grad school. After a few months of using it for several hours a day I would get shooting pains in my shoulder. It took about five years for the pains to completely go away after I stopped using it. That's really been about the only problems I have had, I still use a regular mouse and  don't really have any problems.

In a strange way I feel personally that I have been through the ruff times and am about to come out on the other side. I use to teach part-time at two community colleges and worked at a music store also part-time. About two years ago in one two week period I lost all three jobs. I ended up doing mostly temp work, and had eight different jobs and was on unemployment for four months during 2007. Near the beginning of this year I got my current job, a part-time position at a local university working as a recording technician in the music school.  And now it looks like within the next few months I will be going full-time. Itís been a hard road but I think I can finally see the light at the end of the tunnel.

As far as how the bad economy has affected us here, we have felt it a bit but it has mostly to do with the state budget problems then anything else. Scheduled pay increases are on hold until further notice. We had to lay off one person in our department, their should be five of us but at this time their are only three, and with the up coming retirement of one individual we will be down to two, although this is only until we can hire two more people so it should only be for a short time period.

By the way, GM is planning to unveil an electric car in the next few years, if it is still a functioning company.

GM did that back in the 1990s here in California. They had a lot of interest, with long lines of people ready to take delivery of a Saturn EV. In response GM refused to sell anyone a car and would only lease them. They then bitched and moaned about the state mandate that required electric cars, and once the lease was up they then took every car back and destroyed them instead of selling them to their lease holders. They even pretty much gave up on hybrid technology when they were the world leaders. Because of this I have very little sympathy to GM and the other big three, they only thought about the short term and have pretty much driven themselves into a ditch.


Each registered voter gets one ballot, with a code number and barcode on it, and it's mailed to your registration address.  Ballots are not accepted without a valid code number, and there is no way that more than one ballot with the same code number on it may be counted.

In Oregon how does one vote if they are homeless? Just wondering, I think its a valid question. Basically if it increases voter participation I am for it.

On the subject of early voting, we had it here in California, but their was only one voting place per county. So you had to drive to where ever the polls where and then you had to wait in line, Here in LA county it was at least a five hour wait to vote.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Concession speech = classy
« on: November 05, 2008, 10:07:55 AM »
I thought both speeches were very good. The way a hard fought campaign should end.

I went to vote on my way to work at 8:30 this morning. Only one person in line in front of me, but all of the voting stations where full which is unusual in itself. No big deal for me, in and out in ten minutes or less.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Intel vs AMD DAW
« on: November 02, 2008, 10:51:49 AM »
I don't condone Microsoft's advertising approach either, BUT at least they haven't just hired a cute guy and expect us to make our choice based on the fact that one guy is young and 'good looking' and the other guy is portly, older and a dag, like the mac ads.

For the record I didn't buy a mac because Apple has some young 'good looking' guy (that guy is good looking?) as a mac. I bought one because for what it does and how it works. Also that older 'dag' guy (whatever that means) is a fairly well known comic here in the states. He's been on a few TV shows (The Daily Show for one) and is known for playing those kinds of characters. Also, neither Microsoft or Apple "hired" those guys for their ads, they hired ad agencies who made the ads and then hired the talent.

Quote from: deepspace
It's just hard to make the switch- I'm just so used to PC and so many (present company excluded I HOPE) mac users are just can I put this...... let me put it this way: they think Photoshop is a game, and that golf online would be a brilliant idea, and their idea of great entertainment is putting up slideshows of themselves on holiday in the bahamas at dinner parties.

Isn't this basically the same thing that you were complaining about Apple's ad campaign above? You are making a judgment on a computer based upon who you perceive mac users are and not upon what the computer can do. I think its fine to use a PC for anything you want if it works for you, but your smugness towards a product is something you might want to reconsider.

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