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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: January 05, 2008, 11:59:07 PM »
The world of Oenyaw

Instruments closer

I just noticed this, what is in that odd shaped case in the background of these two photos? My guess would be a sitar or vina, am I close?  :)

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: January 03, 2008, 04:13:59 PM »
I've noticed a lot of people in this thread (and in past "gear shot" type threads) - not everyone, but many people have a tendency towards indian, native american, aboriginal, african, etc... types of decorations

For the record the wall art in my studio consists of a sarong that was given to me as a gift for some performance I was in (can't remember which one now). A string of buddist prayer flags that a friend gave to me which I found wadded up in my closet last week so decided to put it to use. Two paintings I aquired in Bali, one of which was painted by a friend. A poster of a concert that Steve Roach and Robert Rich performed in Spain back in 1992 that Steve gave me. A concert poster of a gamelan performance I was in several years ago. And probably the most useless of them all, one MA degree in Ethnomusicology from some little known university called UCLA.  ;D

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: January 03, 2008, 12:55:35 PM »

Second is current studio, though it has been relocated to a smaller room as we moved to a smaller house in a smaller street after taking this photo.

Ok, so what is the silver box on top of your rack? It looks like a TC Electronics box but I can't figure it out. Also, what make are your speakers?

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: January 02, 2008, 11:36:35 AM »
What is the little blue/silver box on the right end of the Kurzweil ?

The remote for the Presonus Central Station, which I really need seeing that the main box is a whole 6 inches away from the remote.  ;D

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: January 01, 2008, 10:24:37 PM »
Ok, finally got the studio in order enough to take some pictures here they are:

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: December 29, 2007, 11:32:30 PM »
Bode frequency shifter, now that is nice.  8) The Moog modular I learned synthesis on had one of those. So how big a modular system do you have? I use to own a model 15 but I sold it about 14 years ago. It paid for two months of fieldwork in Bali that year.  ;D

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: December 29, 2007, 12:15:57 PM »
The Gizmotron was the creation of Lol Creme and Kevin Godley from the 70s art band, 10cc.  After they split from 10cc, they did a pretty wild 3 LP project called "Consequences," that was supposed to spotlight the Gizmo, but ended up blowing a huge budget in the process.  It's an entertaining album if you don't mind dialogue (Peter Cook does the voices), and even has Sarah Vaughn guesting on one track, "Lost Weekend."

Yes I have that album, I found the first side of the first disc to be interesting but after that not so much. My guess is they blew their budget making the first 20 minutes and then made the rest of the album with the money they had left.

I think the Gizmo is a little different from the ebow, in that there is more physical contact with the strings, but I never got to try one out.

Its different in that it uses spinning balls of rosin to make the string vibrate but its trying to do the same thing as the ebow. It had one big disadvantage in that its has to be attached to the guitar to be used, unlike the ebow.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: December 28, 2007, 08:33:25 PM »
I just read this wikipedia article - it's interesting...

I remember first hearing about the ebow back in the 70s, I think it was even out of production for a few years.

Here's another cool one that is somewhat related. The Gizmotron:

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: December 28, 2007, 12:31:31 AM »
When I was using a mixer I mainly did #1, I use to use four patchbays to connect everything to route everywhere. But now that I have given up using the mixer I use #3 with about 8 inputs on my soundcard that are not connected to anything patched into a patchbay in case someone brings something over to record. So now I have no mixer and only use 1 patchbay.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: December 26, 2007, 05:56:43 PM »
Not that I have any interest whatsoever  ::) in ever recording music, but just out of curiosity, if one wanted to record non-rhythmic ambient music (i.e. no drum programming machines needed), what would be the minimum one would need to spend to a) compose and play it b) record and mix it c) make high quality CD-Rs of it.

Their is no real answer to this as their are so many ways one can make this type of music. It depends on the way you want to work and what you want to achieve. You could spend only a few hundred bucks and make some music. Or, like most of us here go crazy and buy tons of gear just because we like too.  :P ;D

So, the prospect of spending what looks like mega bucks on all that gear (and, knowing how small the market is for ambient music and how "well" it sells) :( well, to be blunt, how do you justify it?

I don't think making this kind of music you can justify the costs, you do it because you have to. But again, these days you can spend very little and still make something decent. In the end its not really the tools that make the music but the person and how he/she uses them. Like building a house, you don't need a lot of the tools they use today to make houses, people have been making houses for thousands of years with very basic tools.

BTW I will contribute with photos of my studio later, I just finished moving my studio to a different room and am in the process of fixing some minor problems. Probably post something in a day or two.

Everything and Nothing / For the audiophile who has everything
« on: December 23, 2007, 12:06:42 AM »
A new pair of woofers to enjoy.   ;D

Hypnos Label Releases / A Produce & Loren Nerell, Intangible
« on: December 22, 2007, 10:58:05 PM »
Over the past summer Barry (A Produce) and I spent quite a bit of time working on some music together with the thought that if turned out half way decent maybe we would put it out. For various reasons we had to stop for a while and haven't been able to get back together to work on it some more. In the mean while Barry sent his film maker friend Barton Santello an mp3 of one of our tracks which he then used as the sound track to his film "Intangible." I just ran across it and thought maybe some of you might enjoy hearing what we were up to. Click on the link below to hear and see the film, I hope you enjoy it.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Damn MySpace hackers!
« on: December 20, 2007, 02:36:19 PM »

I just wanted to let you all know that if you're on my MySpace friends list, you are going to find a nice little bulletin from "me" about how I am apparently a "Nawty Babe", who wants to "Hook-Up". (yeesh).....

If you get a reply from me accepting your invitation it wasn't me I swear.  ;D Oh wait, you're not on my friends list, who did I send that to?  ??? I mean I didn't send that too . . .  :o :-[ :D

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Max/MSP
« on: December 20, 2007, 12:03:19 PM »
I have to agree with Mike. I have friends who have gotten ionto Mas/MSP and basically it seems that once they got into it their composing output dropped off to next to nothing. Mainly because its such a deep program that you spend a lot of time building your system. Now, once you have that system you can use it for whatever you want. My advice is if you see a use for it, for what it does then go ahead and get it. But if you are just thinking about messing around with it then you might want to reconsider.

Oh, and as Mike says Pluggo is well worth getting. A lot of the plugins in Pluggo came directly from Mas/MXP, you can make plugins in Max and then port them as Pluggo plugins.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Ron Boots
« on: December 18, 2007, 02:34:32 PM »
I've got a couple of Ron's releases, one of my favourites being 'Of Desolate Places And Urban Jungles', released 10 yars ago on a 3" CD by the Amplexus label. A really good mix of beats and sound recordings that creates it's own path.

That's probably my favorite from him as well. Its also probably his most different release compared to the few I have heard. Ron mostly does what I would call melodic berlin school music.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach discussion
« on: December 13, 2007, 04:29:05 PM »
One other thing I've been meaning to write is about Steve and Robert's work together. I just wanted to point to whoever it was that wished their was more colboration work from these two, that the compilation CD "Dali: The Endless Enigma" has two tracks from them as a duo, plus one from Steve and a lot of other interesting tracks from various other artists (including myself to be upfront). So, if you don't have that disc you'll have to track that one down too.  ;D I think you can still order it via the Projekt website.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Steve Roach discussion
« on: December 13, 2007, 01:07:57 PM »
Someone (Loren possibly) on the old thread mentioned that is was a necessary thing, but I didn't catch if they posted the reason or not.  I think it was something like it'll make sense when you hear it.  I haven't heard it yet.

Not hear it, I meant the liner notes would make it more obvious. I hadn't seen them until today (I just got my copy) so I didn't want to say anything until I actually saw what was written.  I guess I can spill the beans now. Arc of Passion is a live performance. I recorded it last summer when Steve played at Analogue Haven. At the time we had no intension of releasing the entire performance, I was just recording it mostly for Steve's archives. Steve had been thinking about releasing a CD with a track from the various concerts he performed that year, but after hearing this recording Steve was blown away by the quality of it (thanks in most part to my Apogee mini-me AD convertor) plus his performance was well above par.

So why was the title track split across two discs? Their are a couple reason. One being their were no breaks in the concert, it was one evolving performance that lasted two hours. The title track happened right in the middle of the performance and lasted nearly 1 hour. How do you divide up something like this? Do you put the begining and ending together on one disc and the middle part on its own? Or do you stay true to the spirit of the performance and leave it in the order of its original occurance?

The other reason being a technical one which pretty much forced us to go the second route. Sound check for the recording went fine, but as always happens the heat of performance tends to make things louder. I knew that coming in so I was monitoring the recording the entire performance. I made adjustments when needed, but the concert continued to get louder until I had reached the bottom of my adjustments. On the mini-me just below its lowest variable setting is a default calibration mode which was way too low for recording this concert. So what happened was I went to adjust the volume a bit lower and ended up going into calibration mode, meaning the levels dropped. I quickly turned them back up and luckly that was probably the peak volume of the evening. So in the end it only made sense to make the cut to the second disc at that point with a fade out/in which means you probably lost about 30 seconds from the entire performace. And that's why the title track was divided onto two discs. So, if you are not happy with this then feel free to blame me.  ;D

Everything and Nothing / Re: blade runner final cut
« on: December 12, 2007, 07:18:26 PM »

What flying cars are you referencing ?

Why the Moller of course

You can have one for only 1 million dollars.  :)

Robots,except for car factories or that cute Honda robot,never seen one like a Nexus 6? Or is it a joke?

No, nothing even like a Nexus 1 :P But their are a few robots, like that Honda one you mention, I've heard of a new robot vacum cleaner, it looks nothing like a human but it is a robot as it can remember functions and figure out problems dealing with cleaning. Sorry, I never said nor ment to imply we were at that level of technology.

Everything and Nothing / Re: blade runner final cut
« on: December 09, 2007, 11:39:30 AM »
Just saw the final cut of Blade Runner in the cinema,limited run,if it is in your city,go see it,nothing new but the print is pristine.Sure beats a TV.Not sure how many saw it in 1982 upon release on the big screen.After 25 years,it still holds up(except in 10 years time,we will not have flying cars or robots)

Flying cars and robots are already around, just not like they are in the movie, but who knows maybe that will change in 10 years. I saw the original in the theater 25 years ago, so count me in as one of the original. Still holds up today as a great sci-fi film in my book.

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