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Everything and Nothing / Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
« on: October 18, 2013, 02:41:04 PM »
Keep voting guys we need a rally to get the lead again.

Everything and Nothing / Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
« on: October 18, 2013, 11:51:36 AM »
They actually took a one vote lead for a moment, but I got some of my co-workers to vote and give her a bit of a lead again.

Everything and Nothing / Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
« on: October 18, 2013, 12:08:19 AM »
It's after midnight here so you can all vote again. As I type this the lead is 47 votes, with Trang getting 604 votes so far. Thanks to everyone for turning out and voting, its been amazing to see everyone coming together around this amazing painter. Not just us but I head from a dancer friend that a group of knitters have taken up her cause since some of her most recent work also uses threads, who would have thought? Just three more days of voting and its over. Here is a direct link again to vote:

Everything and Nothing / Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
« on: October 17, 2013, 05:22:15 PM »
Voting closes Sunday night/ Monday morning at midnight Pacific time. Voting is reset every day so make sure to vote each day.

Everything and Nothing / Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
« on: October 17, 2013, 09:24:01 AM »
Yes you can vote every day from the same computer, I just voted on this one for the 4th time in as many days so their must be something wrong with your computer. Try refreshing or deleting your cookies as Forrest suggested.  Yes Forrest they had a big serge last night between 10 - 11PM, maybe for the reason below.

Ok, I am reposting this from facebook as this is important. Thank you everyone who has voted so far. Today is an important day and may decide the outcome. The group of DJs in the other article have their big show on Thursday nights, and I know if I were a DJ I would expect everyone attending to get out their smart phones and vote while on the dance floor. So because of this I expect a larger serge in votes from them late this evening. So, please make sure to vote for Trang Le today as much as you can. We need to build a bigger lead to withstand the dance fever vote later on this evening. :D Thanks again for voting. Here is the link again:

Everything and Nothing / Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
« on: October 16, 2013, 05:30:16 PM »
Yes right now she has a 61 vote lead, but I'm just afraid of a weekend lull in voting will allow her competitors to catch up and over take her, so every vote counts right now. And once again thank you for your support on this.

Everything and Nothing / Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
« on: October 16, 2013, 12:04:04 PM »
I followed the link to vote, but couldn't find where to do it.
Am I missing it, or is it a Facebook only thing ?

Its not a facebook thing, its a direct vote. When you get to the page you should see something that looks like this:

Click on Trang T Le, then click on vote, you should see a running score of votes after that. Thanks for your support.

Everything and Nothing / Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
« on: October 16, 2013, 09:22:53 AM »
Thanks everyone for voting and your kind words about my music and Trang's art. Yes, you can vote from anywhere in the world, it doesn't seem to matter, I  know of at least a couple people who have voted in France. Also consider this your reminder to vote again today, you guys are making a big difference, as I type this she is ahead by 25 votes, that is the largest margin so far in the three days of voting. Thanks again for everyone's support.

Everything and Nothing / Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
« on: October 15, 2013, 05:49:37 PM »
Thank you Julio for your kind words. I shared them with Trang, she was very touched and would like to put them on her website.

Everything and Nothing / Re: A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
« on: October 15, 2013, 04:02:06 PM »
Thanks for voting and thanks for the compliment about the music. It looks like they go by different ip addresses, so you can vote multiple times from different locations. So if you have computer access at work you can cast a vote there  and then go home and vote again. Just wanted to make that clear. Thanks again for everyone who has voted already, it is still very close and every vote makes a big difference.

Everything and Nothing / A Favor from my Hypnos friends.
« on: October 15, 2013, 03:00:35 PM »
I would like to ask a favor of all my friends here on Hypnos. I recently had the great pleasure of composing the music to a video on the art of Trang Le. Her painting 111,978 is an incredible and important work on the Iraq war. The rest of her body of work is just as amazing. Right now she has an article up on, the website for a local TV station here in LA. The article on her is in competition with another article on local DJ culture which if you ask me is not really a fair fight. Basically one solitary artist (sound familar? Just like most of us here) against a group of DJs and the young hip crowd who are very savvy with social media, basically a whole community. If she wins the competition the prize will be KCET TV will make a documentary on her and her art. So I am asking all of my friends to vote for her. You can vote once per day per location. So your home computer, your work computer, your local coffee shop, even the browser on your smart phone, they will all count as separate votes. Please as a favor to me and for her seriously consider voting. The vote is very close right now, even voting once might put her over the top, here's the link where to vote, you can also read the article on her from here:

Also, here's the video I scored about her artwork:


Thank you for your consideration.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Shortcircuit
« on: September 30, 2013, 09:22:01 PM »
Maybe you were thinking of the Roland VP-9000?

That softsynth sampler sounds interesting but being a Mac guy I'll never know. 16 bits seems a few bits low if you as me.  ;D

Everything and Nothing / Re: Sampling in Ambient Music
« on: September 24, 2013, 09:38:09 PM »
I have this cd.  Group is Sowing Paranoia, album is Research Music Lab.  Unless another group sampled Structures, I'm 100% sure of this...

Nope, not them I am referring to. Just so this doesn't continue into a long guessing game I am not going to say anything more about it.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Sampling in Ambient Music
« on: September 24, 2013, 01:23:23 PM »
That group you speak of, Sowing Paranoia, also sampled heavily from Eno's On Land on the same cd.

That's not the name of the group I am referring too. I'm not going to post who they are, don't want to give them anything for what they did.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Sampling in Ambient Music
« on: September 23, 2013, 06:57:17 PM »
I think if you sample form someone's recording without their permission you are fair game for that artist to go after you. As an example some ambient group just recently released an album of music with one track in which they sampled about 30 seconds of Steve Roach's Structures From Silence. All they did was loop it and add some wind sounds over the top of it, and never once asked for permission or even gave Steve credit. From what I have heard they are now learning a hard lesson.

In the case of Alio Die I am not sure where the source of his samples are from. I really doubt that he did it without permission. I've used recordings of gamelans that I have processed to make some of my sounds, but in my case I have used recordings that I have made myself so no issues there. In the late 1980s I saw this was going to be an issue and made a conscious decision not to go the route of taking stuff from other people recordings.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Insights from Daniel Lanois
« on: September 13, 2013, 11:41:05 PM »
I saw this video last week, it is interesting. Funny though is I just started reading his book Soul Mining in which he covers a lot of similar ground with more detail and of course a whole lot more too. Anyone heard of the guy who interviewed him before? I suspect he is some hiphop producer because of Daniel's one reference about the killer bass to him.

I may have mentioned this before but back in the 80's in London before I came to  America I had the good fortune to see an Ambient concert with Harold Budd, Daniel Lanois, Micheal Brooks & Roger Eno.  Brian Eno was there but not as a performer.  It was a small theater with maybe 100 was perfect!

Sounds like the Opal records tour, we had something similar in LA, but in the larger Japan/American Theater with Budd, Roger Eno, Laraaji, Hugo Largo and the highlight of the two day event being Carl Stone interviewing Brian Eno. Interesting event, but I never understood why Hugo Largo was so highly thought of at the time.

Just got the new CD and haven't listen to it you, but I did listen to the broadcast live at the time so I think I know what I am in for. I ordered my ticket to the late Saturday night show, I will see you all there.

Do you remember when "Drum Machines" came out and human drummers could not get gigs anymore..... :o

You mean all those lucrative gigs I get for playing live ambient music at bar mitzvahs and weddings is now going to dry up? Gee thanks Brian Eno.  :P ;D

Looks like an interesting app, but does everything you make sound like Eno? That's the impression the demo leaves with me. I would also like to hear what you've done with it Julio.

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Loren Nerell news
« on: August 14, 2013, 03:32:14 PM »
Just wanted to update everyone on my current activities. Right now as I type this Mark Seelig is here and we are in the middle of collaborating on the of making a new CD. So far after 3 1/2 days we have about 40 minutes of music. We have a couple of more days of work, and at this rate we should have an entire album mostly recorded by Friday. Later in the month Pankaj Mishra a master musician of the sarangi - an Indian string instrument that is played with a bow - will be joining us to record his instrument for the album. We should have it all wrapped up sometime in September.

As for how it sounds, it starts off as something like Jorge Reyes goes to a temple ceremony in Bali to perform, followed by Mark playing some Bansuri flute which leads into a percussion jam. Next up will be as Mark calls it the "celestial gamelan," I recorded us playing some gamelan instruments at UCLA this weekend. The album will probably end with Pankaj doing his thing in an alap style. Of course I've been throwing everything I can find sound wise into the audio soup so it should be very interesting.

From what I understand Mark is not an academic, although he kind of talks like one. I believe he is a writer originally from Ireland, and has mostly done music reviews for various newspapers and magazines over the years. As for why he says he didn't know anything about the music scene over here my guess is the real answer is something Forrest eluded to before, David Toop's huge influence in the music press over in the UK would be my guess. Maybe I give him more credit for something he doesn't deserve but Toop always seems to have had it in for us over in the states with the occasional slight in one of his books or a bad review of just about anything from this side of the pond ambient wise.

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