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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Autechre - is it worth it?
« on: January 31, 2008, 07:34:59 AM »
I love everything up through about ep7 or so...   tri repetae is great.   I had chiastic slide on yesterday.  cichle suite is very good, as is envane.   I really like the garbage and anvil vapre ep's and consider those the sort of pinnacle for me.   amber is also good.

getting too far beyond ep7 - I started not buying them as much.  Too me it seemed they dropped writing songs to writing experiments (which is fine in the studio to improve your writing and production skills - but not was a release...)   I have confield and gantz graf - they're merely ok - good for a listen every year or so.   I wouldn't have minded never buying them and instead picking up something better.   I don't regret buying any of the earlier catalog.   

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 31, 2008, 06:49:02 AM »
np:   photek - modus operandi - moody fun slower slightly jazz tinged dnb.

was: 

the elf machine - i/o
vir unis - return of the locust queen
vir unis - henry hud


a trio of atmoworks downloads.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Pads from the waveform up...
« on: January 31, 2008, 05:08:27 AM »
I've posted too fast on a number of occasions... happens to the best of us (and the worst of us like me... :) )

Creating sounds... what a huge, great topic.   The best way to tackle creating a sound is to start small and build up.   Get familiar with the building blocks -and it becomes easier and easier to achieve sounds you're looking for.

Start with a single osc - filter - adsr envelope.   Fiddle with it - see what it does.   Add a 2nd osc - mess with the tuning a bit- you'll notice if you slightly detune it (just smidge) you'll get an interesting chorus like effect.   Add another osc to modulate the sound...(usually labeled LFO) - this is a low frequency oscillator that is used to modulate the oscillators - making the 'move' a bit.   Keep it small - keep adding things step by step.    Try changing the waveform of the oscillator - sine, sawtooth, square...  see what happens to your sound as you flip through them.   

Effects... wow - there's a whole 'nother huge topic.  :)    APK's right - taking a sound and tossing a bit of reverb on it will go a long way for getting the sound you're probably looking for.   I also love the technique he mentioned - making a copy of the same track and changing the copy slightly - detuning it - or offsetting it by a few milliseconds from the original - changing the panning - changing the filtering...

For the "evolving" part - everything comes together - I like to be able to directly control the filter, modulation, on the synth... and control the effects playing part (I like to have my effects as aux sends on my mixer coming back into channels - so I can easily apply effects to the original or the already effected sound - create feedback loops - etc... ) while I'm recording - I will constantly ride the knobs on the synths, effects, and mixer to make it all evolve.    This is just my technique - there are many many other ways.




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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Pads from the waveform up...
« on: January 30, 2008, 06:56:18 PM »
Mike - I think you're confusing subtractive with additive...  subtractive would be the big analogs of the 70's and 80's...  moogs, arps, early prophets, etc...

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Chat feature in this Forum?
« on: January 30, 2008, 06:51:19 PM »
I would check in - though I think we block chat at work so that limits daytime use (not that I should be chatting then anyway!)

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Your MySpace experiences ?
« on: January 30, 2008, 12:55:22 PM »
I admit - I only really created a myspace page so I could contact a very old friend of mine that I'd found there (which was really, really cool) - I'll eventually beef it up and "use" the page when I start rolling out new music later this year, but up to now - I just check when someone sends me a note or a friend request (not many of those - but then again - I'm not really asking anyone either... )

I can see your frustration, Lena... 

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Now watching
« on: January 30, 2008, 08:31:24 AM »
My coworker lent me season 1 of House over a month ago - supposed to be a great show - still haven't started it yet. 

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Now watching
« on: January 29, 2008, 04:15:43 PM »
Watching a few episodes of The Avengers - mainly the b/w Emma Peel episodes.  :)   Can't beat the campy fun and the banter between Steed and Peel...




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Everything and Nothing / Re: Warm Greetings - I'm Back in Town. :)
« on: January 29, 2008, 11:00:08 AM »
Welcome back and congratulations on your upcoming graduation!

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Vinyl
« on: January 29, 2008, 05:09:10 AM »
And again to repeat myself, the ritual of how you interact with the music by opening the sleeve, taking out the vinyl, feeling the static, putting the needle on the record, starting its speed and waiting until the first sound is being send through the needle is just mesmerizing...  sorry, guys  ;D


I totally agree with that...  (see my first post... :) )

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Vinyl
« on: January 29, 2008, 04:59:05 AM »
My bass player in my first band had something like that.   Interestingly - it could stand straight up and still play.

Probably better than your bass player could ;)

Unfortunately, I watched him grow into a fairly bad cocain addict during the course of the band... you hit the nail right on the head.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Vinyl
« on: January 28, 2008, 02:02:21 PM »
My bass player in my first band had something like that.   Interestingly - it could stand straight up and still play.   

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: How do you record?
« on: January 28, 2008, 05:02:52 AM »
Humorusly, I got excited about an Edirol box that had 2 mic inputs and 6 line ins... (instead of the array of mic inputs on the Firestudio Project and Saffire 10) - and then I found the reviews which were all from 2004 which didn't excite me so much...

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: How do you record?
« on: January 25, 2008, 02:20:05 PM »
There are a couple of ways of looking at it - and I'm not sure which way I'd go...   Ha.. the idea of replacing my 1604 with an Onyx version with firewire... cool (but holy cow, that's expensive!   and that's not in my budget this year...).   

Core wants...

4+ line inputs 
firewire seems to make the most sense
budget is ~$500 or less

Bonus thoughts...

I love having a physical mixer - and especially several aux sends.   Having the mixer and interface to the computer would be the best of both worlds (I think at least  - I've never worked that way.).   

Although I'm happy enough staying analog for all the mixing and just running a few outs to a soundcard.   I do want more than a pair of stereo ins on the soundcard so I can record "live" situations - or multiple synths/effects at the same time. 


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Didn't you used to have an FAQ item for people requesting info for school papers?   I seem to remember that (or it was just a forum topic years ago...   wow - the forum's been around quite a while now (2001 I think)... :) )


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Everything and Nothing / Re: What are your plans and goals in 2008?
« on: January 25, 2008, 09:55:36 AM »
Wayne... good luck tonight!

If I'm reading that tiny poster right.. you've got a gig at 6:00... :)

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Vinyl
« on: January 25, 2008, 09:54:35 AM »

Toy Dolls - only track I remember is Nellie the Elephant, but oh my - what a great track... :)

Yeah - I admit to having Duran Duran 12" and 7" - most of them I inherited when a friend passed away.  Some great stuff (some not so).

My addiction was Depeche Mode - I have an absolutely stupid number of singles from the 80's...   I bought a large collection of Smiths and Erasure singles off of a friend who was tired of lugging around his vinyl every time he moved - I offered them back to him last year.. he didn't want them...  oh well!

I went through a phase where I bought a ton of 70's vinyl - mostly Bowie, Roxy Music, Steely Dan, and Return to Forever.    My 80's collection is by far the largest (no surprise since I was born in 1970...)


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Everything and Nothing / Re: Now watching
« on: January 25, 2008, 09:49:06 AM »
That's abslutely true.   I forget how an old co-worker of mine put it exactly - but looking at IMDB ratings...

* if it's over 8.0 regardless of genre, it's probably a good bet
* if it's over 6.5 or 7.0 and you like that genre - then you'll probably like it

So a 7.0 sci-fi or anime title - there's a good change I'll like it.  On the other hand - a 7.0 western... eh, maybe not.

I've found his rating system to be fairly accurate - not always, but most of the time.

 

   

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 25, 2008, 05:16:11 AM »


Yeah, I love old Plastikman stuff.... I just wish Mr. Hawtdog were doing better things these days than playing bad techno and drinking Grey Goose. (sorry, got a chip on my shoulder maybe).

What you think of Consumed?

Yeah - it was funny to see his face on all the magazines a couple years back as the poster boy of techno...  of course, nice that the music was getting center stage at all.

Consumed is my favorites of his by far... followed closely by the earlier releases - Artifakts and Musik.  I still toss on Sheet One from time to time.  Closer I thought was really mediocre/bad/sucked - on the first few listens - I came back to it 6 months later and found I liked part of it more than I thought... There are some good moments.

Back to the BC/CR stuff discussed earlier...

I've got a few of the metal tin releases - yes - first thing I did was pull the discs and put them in something else.  Nasty packaging...   here's the collection..   (nice site for this stuff:   http://www.circonium.de/music/cr.html )

porter ricks - biokinetics
various - decay product (although I've misplaced it lately...)
monolake - hongkong
various - ...compiled
fluxion - vibrant forms II (non-tin)


I admit that I have a few copies of other CR albums (not listed).

I've also got the tin versions of BC-CD and the Maurizio M-CD.

I was so close to buying one of the complete set BC vinyl reissues... but didn't.  :(


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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: New here....
« on: January 24, 2008, 02:31:56 PM »
Welcome to the forum!  We love new faces around here.   Looking forward to listening to your tracks.

John

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