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Everything and Nothing / Re: Downloading Music and Rights
« on: April 22, 2009, 11:45:12 AM »
Unfortunately, it is true however. According to the law, the minute you sell a cd, you no longer have the rights to own said CD and it is actually illegal to burn it to your library and sell it. Again, it does not matter what you think or feel is right, the law is the law.


Everything and Nothing / Re: Downloading Music and Rights
« on: April 22, 2009, 06:27:34 AM »
I also resent the woah is me attitude of, if I did not "steal" software for free, I would not be able to create music. Boo Hoo, if it is that important to you, get a second job for 6 months and save up to buy the software. If someone wants to play guitar is it ok to steal one as it is their fundamental right to be a musician? You are right, this is 100% generational. A generation who has grown up never being told no, or that there are rules or boundaries or ethics other than your own. In know this is a generalization, but sadly not far from the truth.

...and Bill please start a new topic as I am very interested in your discussion.


Everything and Nothing / Re: Downloading Music and Rights
« on: April 21, 2009, 10:10:27 PM »
I really think Mike nailed it when he was talking about the false "noble" perception of this whole art & music being a right thing...

I am so sick of the whole "entitlement generation" with its, I deserve attitude.

All the arguments are just...justifications.

Almost every artist in history wanted to get paid and their end game goal was to SELL their work, (yes I am sure you can all state one or two who you think didn't). If not sell it then they looked for patrons to support them, even early jazz musicians did this.

Everyone needs money to survive and keep doing what they do.

So then on most forums (not this one so much as many ambient/space folks don't play live) everyone says, give the music away and then make your money by touring and merchandise. Ahhh ok, but then these same people bitch about ticket prices and the bands being greedy.

The bottom line is give me my music, make it great and give it to me cheap or free. You are trying to dictate the market based on your own values, not that value of the music or performance. on to Mr. Immersion (I am proud you held your tongue John, but I cannot) you come off as self righteous and authoritarian in so many of your posts, and yet to many of us you have no clue.

You clearly want the world your way. According to you: Musicians do not deserve to get paid, we should all use cheap low end gear as that is all that today's music requires, anyone who uses a Mac is a rich, elitist idiot, we should never use compression to master and you want the secrets of creating depth of field floating...which for me raps up your clueless and arrogant package in a neat little bow. Did I miss anything?

You love to praise Steve Roach and how his music is the best there is and then you proceed to steal from him as you are not patient for the mail to arrive? (I am only borrowing this car for tonight officer, I have one on the way tomorrow). The ridiculous part is, why don't you e-mail Steve, tell him how much you love his music and then demand he give all of it to you for free as he does not deserve to make a living at it or recoup the cost of his studio gear, as you feel he should probably just use cheap software dare he have a real synth and hi-end gear...oh wait aren't you saving up for an Eventide H-8000FW so you can have your floaty black hole reverb?

Sorry man, your arguments do not hold water or value. You just want what you feel you deserve. You need to think of an economic model in your new world order which offers, food, gear and housing to artists and musicians. Most artists and musicians I know do a better job with better tools and more importantly the free time to create it and living on ramin noodles and working a crappy 50 hr a week job may be great for a few years, no artist will sustain them selves forever in that model...but it sounds truly like you do not care.

You and your generation are not Robin Hood stealing food and money from the rich overlords to give to the poor, you are stealing works that someone else put money, blood, sweat, emotion and time into and that is something my friend that you and the world do not deserve as a right! If an artists choose to give away their craft, it is their right to do so, not the other way around.

...Mike and moderators, if this is out of line and too personal, feel free to delete it. I have vented and I will retreat again into the shadows...


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: April 17, 2009, 09:50:04 AM »
Nice set up! I can't wait to hear how your music is evolving with them.

I have been researching verbs a lot since this thread started a while ago, and an H8000FW is indeed my next purchase and a PCM96 Surround will be close behind. I will be selling my Eclipse, have sold my M-3000 and will probably never rely on plug-in verbs much again. I also still have 2 Wedges for live and back-up.


PS Loren I love your set up. I regret selling my 330 years ago. That box has a couple really nice long smooth verbs. I was also curious how do you still like/use the vintage Roland Flanger?

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 02:40:42 PM »
Loren brings up a good point. At a certain level time is seriously money. So if you are just starting out and have a ton of time on your hands and little cash, it is absolutely a smart decision to buy the most affordable computer you can and then "wrench it" yourself.

However, eventually if you do this for a living (as a label or studio or sound designer or full time professional musician) or even an overblown hobby which brings in cash (which really is a part time job VS hobby), the time that you spend is money out of your pocket. Even if it only takes you 1 - 3 days to tweak your OS and trouble shoot and install and upgrade drivers, Etc. Consider that to various people a day is equal to $100 - $400 that you are now loosing by going the DIY route.

For that reason alone a Mac or specialized PC is probably a better bet in terms of time spent and money earned. IE. It works right out of the box!

All this proves is that different folks here have different needs and make music or record for different reasons. These are computers, not politics or religion so the my way is the only way is kind of pointless and rude.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 11:32:53 AM »
...hmmm under $100? Not sure. You may want to check. Not sure what soft synths or plug-ins you own on the PC side, but many of them may be cross platform already.

The only thing I will warn you about is that there are no two track editors equal to either Sound Forge or Wavelab in the Mac world. I have tried Bias and I could not stand it. I actually know of a few high end mastering engineers who purchased PCs just to run these programs.

The good news is you can install windows on your machine with little hassle or problems.

I think there may be light versions of Logic with upgrade paths for you to check out. In fact my advice would be, before you buy a bunch of $100 plug-ins and music apps, you may want to take that same cash, save it up and jump into the full Logic right away. The only reason I suggest this is that Logic comes with a hefty collection of plug-ins, synths and samplers which may be a better fit right off the bat, and you would start learning your intended new platform sooner.

Just more food for thought.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 10:54:13 AM »
I use both...every day and they both work. Period. I agree that I don't enjoy the evangilization at a crusade level on both sides of the argument.

I am fine and happy being cross platform, both allow me to indulge in work and play equally well, I will state however that on a pure emotional level, I enjoy the Mac OS and experience better.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 10:31:28 AM »
Bottom line we are now at a point where computers should not be the weak link in the chain when it comes to music production, with quad cores, 4 gigs or ram as a starting point, power is not the issue.

I hope you are joking right ?
Sure with todays Software the computer might not be the weak link, but already there is coming new software that is VERY cpu demanding and more powerful and that take advantage of the CPU power.
T-Racks 3 which I use a lot is an cpu eater. So I think there will take many many many years until the computer is not the weak link in the production chain since the software is going to get more and more powerful in parallel with the how the CPU/Memory power evolve.

And about my Laptop comment, If you read what I said, I said..only in "general" there is exceptions, compared with workstations they are still toys though :)
So it is all relative..

Actually I was not. Yes there always will be some software companies who like to push the bounds of processing power, but products such as Waves, Abbey Road, URS and others all are considered professional software and are all relatively processor efficient.

I have recorded and mixed numerous projects with an average of 24 - 36 tracks while sending 16 channels of output on a single processor AMD for years with very little CPU struggle. I have played shows, flawlessly with multiple live softsynths on a single processor Intel celeron.

Even low level budget Dells have 4 x the power studio computer is a quad core intel with 4 gigs of Ram, I just did a sound design session with 200 tracks before rendering (which is a ridiculous track count) numerous plug-ins and I was barely at 75% of the computer's power.

So yeah, to use your arguments since you assume most folks here are not audio "professionals" needing big ticket macs and such...power should not be an issue. the Mac from Best buy and be happy, it will rock. Let your computer inspire you and make you happy, you will make better music.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 09:54:59 AM »
...oh and as to performance and latency issues...unless you are tracking 16 in and 16 out at 96k, most modern computers on the market (mac and pc...desktop and laptop) can easily handle tracking duties at very acceptable latencies.

I have recorded multiple albums and projects for myself and clients on laptops, so the toy comment is asinine.

Bottom line we are now at a point where computers should not be the weak link in the chain when it comes to music production, with quad cores, 4 gigs or ram as a starting point, power is not the issue.

The budget $500 Dell we bought my wife has more inherent processing power than my mega studio machine from 3 years ago, as well as my 3 year old audio laptop. Of course she is running Vista so that drags all that power to its knees... can still buy official versions of XP Pro for $90 from New Egg, and almost every serious audio computer company still installs and sells it.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: iMac for music?
« on: March 31, 2009, 09:46:11 AM »
Hmmmm, the Mac VS PC debate.... ::)

I have been usuing custom built PCs for recording now for about 10 years. I use a company called ADK Pro Audio in Kentucky.

The computers are specked out completely and only for music and specifically with your software and hardware in mind. They sell both Macs and PCs and will work with you to design a computer to your needs and budget.

Now, why would I use a computer builder over building my own custom PC ? Well two things, time and function. They offer a one year warranty, online and phone tech support and the cost was less than $300 more than what I could have built myself. When you take into account the time to build and then the month to tweak and trouble shoot, it was well worth it.

Bottom, line for the price I got a machine which was equal in power to a mac at less money.

I also have a custom built laptop from the same company which is going on 3 years old now that I use for live soft synth work

Now the flipside, I also use a Mac Book pro for all of my professional Graphic design and Photography work, as well as some location recording. It is also my internet and "lifestyle" computer.

I love it! All of my future laptops and home computers will be Macs!

The big question? When it comes time to upgrade my studio computer in a few years will I go Mac...not sure, I would love to, but the prospect of re-buying my software is a consideration. If you love Vegas 2...what does Acid 7 do or not do that you miss as they are virtually the same engine? I am a diehard Nuendo/Cubase user, but I saw you mention Logic, I would soon switch to Pro Tools LE than Logic, just personal taste.

Good luck John!


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: March 27, 2009, 09:02:21 AM »

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: March 26, 2009, 09:59:46 PM »
I spent a few months redesigning my room and equipment set up, added a new desk and room treatment. You can see the "before" earlier in this thread.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Gear: Studio shots by Deb
« on: March 25, 2009, 09:11:34 PM »
Some very nice vintage effects tucked away on the Loren, very nice.

Everything and Nothing / Re: List of words it is not OK to ever say
« on: March 14, 2009, 02:28:24 PM »
Ooohhh lets not get started on politically correct workplace terminology.


In analog terms and in many cases the original vinyl sounds better and most often truer to your memory and the original intent of the release.

However since the advent of digital, the quality of the tools keeps getting better and better.

I will make the blanket statement (based on my own listening tests) that 75% of the CDs pressed between the mid 80's to the mid 90's...SUCK!


Well the answer is two fold, number one in many well documented cases, in order to jump on the bandwagon of digital reissues in new market, substandard safety copies of classic albums were used instead of going back to the original masters for digital release. Second, the digital conversion process back in that time frame was abysmal compared to what we have now, as well as our understanding how to master for it.

However, having said that there is a danger in some of the re-masters which we have now where record companies have taken and re-mastered an album to what passes for taste and expectation of now. Meaning many classic albums have been smashed into a brick wall limiter and mastered for the louder, brighter, bass heavy market which is the current trend.

So it does become a case by case scenario where some remasters rock and some suck.

The Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Pink Floyd Remasters are awesome as they are true to the original releases dynamic volume, while some catalogs like Hendrix, The Police and AC/DC have been squashed, brightened and destroyed. Then this gets fixed and you get a set of remasters often only a few years after the other batch.

IE the middle period AC/DC remasters are superior to the current round.

Back on track here, I have the ENO remasters from a few years ago which had the plastic slip case on them and they are far superior to the initial EG eno releases from a decade ago. I would be very curios to hear if these Japan releases are even better.

In general, many re-issues now are getting pretty good as many artists and engineers alike with enough clout are able to control their catalog and resist the louder is better philosphy.

The current Genesis, Bob Dylan, Grateful Dead and CCR reissues are the best that those albums have ever sounded.


Everything and Nothing / Re: Childless couples
« on: March 12, 2009, 01:14:05 PM »
Ok...well my wife and I are in the opposite boat. We have two and found out today number three will be boy number 3 in august and we wouldn't change it for the world!

We are probably not the norm however and many of our friends with children find us a bit odd, only in that we do not necessarily subscribe to the average family paradigm as my wife is an artist and self employed, I am a musician/artist with 3 jobs and we are always on the go, and the kids just adapt to that.

We still go on trips, I do shows out of state and the kids have never been a road block or issue.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ambient music and Mastering
« on: March 11, 2009, 06:24:34 AM »
I have heard that T-Racks 3 has been getting some good reviews.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ambient music and Mastering
« on: March 06, 2009, 10:55:54 AM »
Cool some real heavy weights of mastering such as Bob Ohlson and Bob Katts have weighed in on the discussion on Grearslutz.

Remember gang, "Home Mastering is like home brain surgery and do it your self chiropractic".  ;D Ok not really, but its something to consider.


Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Ambient music and Mastering
« on: March 05, 2009, 11:14:46 AM »
Here is an interesting thread started on this very topic on Gear Slutz FYI


Everything and Nothing / Re: List of words it is not OK to ever say
« on: February 27, 2009, 10:36:13 PM »

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