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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Audio Centaur and Viatorium Press
« on: September 17, 2010, 12:23:40 PM »
This reminds me of the double fold albums of the old days where I would get a new release and spend the afternoon listening and looking at all the details of the art.

That is music to my ears. Thanks for the kind words, Harry. Feedback on the music will be most welcome...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Audio Centaur and Viatorium Press
« on: September 04, 2010, 03:41:48 PM »
Truly beautiful and amazing!  I'm very impressed, 9dragons.  Did you do the letterpress work yourself?

Thanks Mike, and thanks everybody for your kind comments. Yes, all the letterpress work was printed by me using an old Vandercook 4 proof press. The Symmetria album was letterpressed by Stumptown Printers, in Portland. I am still marvelling at the fine work they did.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Audio Centaur and Viatorium Press
« on: September 03, 2010, 08:30:58 PM »
I've got a fledgling label going, under the rubric of Audio Centaur, in addition to graphic and print acitivities as Viatorium Press. I encourage everyone interested in paper, letterpress, and traditional graphics, to check it out:

Thanks for looking, feel free to comment or critique the work.

Interesting to hear about the packaging issues. So a digipak is to be the new format for Hypnos releases?

Sorry to hear of your health issues Gigi; when health interferes with our lives, and the making of our art, it is difficult, but we struggle to overcome it and continue in creativity, sometimes better for it. It is good to hear you have projects that are ready to emerge into the world, I think with patience things will go well. Your music is pure and powerful, though the purity of its essence might make it more obscure, even in the ambient world. The state of labels these days seems nebulous (no pun intended). Hypnos seems like the perfect label to release the music of Oophoi. Athlit is a great example of label and artist having a unified vision. I can't think of any other labels out there, but I've been out of the loop for some time. Infraction is another great ambient label. Mike, are your packaging concepts, as far as digipak, going to be like the six panel Infraction digis? Hypnos and Infraction kind of have that same feel of continuity of design and vision, I like the idea that both labels will have digipak style. Your layout and art will roll smoothly with this format.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Classical Lute Music
« on: July 26, 2010, 11:10:27 PM »
Recently got my first solo lute recording "Lute Music for Witches and Alchemists" played by Lutz Kirchhoff. I mainly got it because it features a piece by the 17th century alchemist Michael Maier. Overall the cd is a lot more gentle and mellow than the title would seem to suggest. But I am enjoying it...

Everything and Nothing / Hearing Voices - Bugs and Birds
« on: July 24, 2010, 02:04:00 PM »
Just listened to this program, it is amazing. Music from moth wings. The microsonic worlds of insects. All around excellent audio joy. Check it out here:

Beautiful art work, it is great to see effort still being put into the presentation. Listened to the first two samples, this is an amazing work, put me in a good trance. Congratulations...

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: June 26, 2010, 12:13:48 AM »

Ethnic Minority Music of Northwest Xinjiang - Just got it. Central Asian music is amazing...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Robert Rich Tour Blog
« on: June 26, 2010, 12:09:39 AM »
I am looking forward extremely to Mr. Rich's performance here in Seattle...any other forumites showing up here?

I get curmudgeonly (more so than usual) when this topic comes up. Speaking strictly for myself, not interested in convincing anyone about anything, but my one small opinion is that downloads suck and will finally put music in its grave as far as people paying for it. I'm all for free downloads - and I will be a bastard here and say that if an album is released download only, it absolutely deserves to be traded for free on the net. I hate myself for saying that...

CDs are already degenerate enough. Weird collectors, people I know personally who don't even have a record player, have been known to buy a vinyl album release just for the art and luxuriant experience, and to buy a cd copy for the listening. So there are still the hardcore art/music fusion lovers out there.

I am heading to the house of some friends this evening, the house of metal dudes. They have a massive all vinyl collection stacked alluringly in their living room. Joyful hours are spent there poring over the elaborate 70's gatefold art while drinking in the sounds. This experience is quite fun, and compared to buying "air" for $9 off the internet, I know what I would choose.

Dear music makers, we (artists and musicians) need to start collaborating again like we did in ancient times. Let's make musical objects that people are actually willing to pay for, that can be enjoyed, touched, seen, and heard for years to come.

If you only have the wherewithal to release a download, you should rethink the idea of being paid for your music at all.

The divorce of music and art has not been finalized.

But that is one man's totally backward, out of step with the times, and perhaps idiotic opinion...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Robert Rich Tour Blog
« on: June 06, 2010, 01:58:11 PM »
Reading Robert's tour blog and getting really excited for his Seattle show. I actually live within walking distance of the venue, which makes it even more exciting. I do so much walking in my neighborhood, it is cool to think that one of these strolls will lead to a Robert Rich show. Ambient music is about the only thing I really would like to see live. Bands are just too damn loud these days, all the enjoyment is stripped out of the sound. No band is worth damaging one's hearing over. Reading over Robert's tour blog there is a real sense of what a great guy he is. The fact that he is driving vast distances at to bring his music to the fans is impressive...

Anyone else on the forum going to the Portland or Seattle shows? I am considering the Portland shows, but might be too caught up in work.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: June 06, 2010, 01:14:30 PM »
Inoue/Namlook - Shades of Orion 2...such a great piece.

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Robert Rich Tour Blog
« on: June 05, 2010, 12:55:36 PM »
I can't wait to see Robert play when he comes to the Northwest. I have not yet seen a live show of electronic/ambient music, even though it is the majority of my home listening, but having listened to this music for years, I am certainly not expecting a bunch of musicians on stage wanking their instruments. That would be futile. I have somthing of an idea (from liner notes) of how this music is produced, and for me, going in to a live situation, I want to experience the sound itself, with the aritst present, directing with intention the sound toward the audience. To me it is the sound and the atmosphere that's important, not the stage antics of the performers. Live performance with a band is fake as well, with amps and effects extending the reach of the musicians. The excitement of their interaction might be interesting, but I would have to say that the most interesting live performance I've experienced was one old Chinese professor playing a guqin on a table alone for an hour. In terms of ambient, if the music is created by one person, it should legitimately be played by that same person. I know that the drum sounds are not 'real', I don't need to see someone slapping a drum to experience the emotion of the sound that's created. Imagine a concert like Steve Roach played in Grace Cathedral. That must have been awesome, the space alone was a contributor to the show...

Glad you mentioned this. I've been on a FAX kick lately. Will certainly get this, can't get enough of the Tetsu sound...

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: May 16, 2010, 03:40:31 PM »
Inoue/Namlook, 62 Eulengasse - weird, dark, loving it so far.

Judas Priest, Stained Class - never thought I would say this, but Judas Priest really destroys on this one...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Tetsu Inoue
« on: May 16, 2010, 03:37:07 PM »
Got 62 Eulengasse, Shades of Orion 2, and Datacide II from Ear-rational. Eulengasse is fascinating so far, and the other two are awaiting deeper listens. It's great to get back into FAX (though mainly through the lens of Inoue's work), I like the funky design and fonts. Gives me an old school sensation. And it seems like almost anything Inoue gets involved in is magical...

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: May 05, 2010, 08:40:52 PM »
Datacide : Flowerhead. This is a truly weird and wonderful album.
Kiyoshi Mizutani : Scenery at the Border. This is an all time great double album of field recordings from Japan. Sometimes I get more out of a powerful field recording work like this than "deliberate" music. Powerful...

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Tetsu Inoue
« on: May 03, 2010, 04:24:29 PM »
Listened to Ambiant Otaku the other day and realized it is still one of my absolute favorites. It was one of the first ambient/electronic albums I bought, and surely one of the best. The bright, flowing tones, deep emotion, and the intelligence of it are remarkable. Brings back vivid memories of previous listenings. Also have been listening to and becoming in awe with Slow and Low, World Reciever, and Inland. Amazing works. I still would like to get a hold of Organic Cloud, but don't know if a reissue will happen soon. Does anyone know if this is still in print, or where to find it?

Everything and Nothing / Re: Fiction in the Age of E-Books
« on: April 24, 2010, 12:30:55 AM »
Books are just words which are symbolic of reality, (or somebody's twisted take on it) the menu not the meal. I imagine there was a little outrage when the move from stone tablets to paper occurred.
Same for CDs and DVDs which are both artificial reality. I wouldn't get too caught up on which artificial medium reality (or altered reality) is represented on. Tonite  I'm going to watch Pink Floyd: Dark Side of the Moon from '73 which I missed the first time around on the big screen medium. I also have the option to stream it online sans DVD but I only have broadband with Wi-Fi.

Ok, to get an idea of what I am talking about, imagine you are watching that Floyd video on a small black and white tv. Makes no difference, right? It's the medium, not the message, right? Now imagine how annoyed you would be at the diminished experience, watching that video, and ask yourself if it really is the message. This is how some people feel about books. Sure, the words are the same, but it's how they are presented, how they are printed on the page, the feel of the paper, the suppleness of the binding and the texture of the paper and cloth cover. It is not just the provenance of digital technology that can express itself in multiple ways. Things have a reality, they cannot be separated from their thingness. Being aware of this is an interesting dilemma. If you disagree, would you be just as happy with a tv half the size with terrible sound? Probably not. Now just transfer that same feeling to how someone might feel for a non-digital medium and it might make sense.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: April 23, 2010, 12:39:38 AM »
Datacide II (Inoue/Atom Heart)- Just reissued.

Where to get this one? I liked the other Datacide, Flowerhead.

Ginormous - At Night, Under Artificial Light. Brilliant electronica.
Move D - Kunststoff. A lovely classic.

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