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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: March 15, 2018, 05:00:05 AM »
Steve's longform pieces are well worth getting into - I was recently listening to Slow Heat and The Dream Circle.
   They are a different sort of listen - more akin I think to Robert Rich's sleep concert ideas.

The Passing is an extended version of a track released many years ago and previously only available on a compilation disc.

Many of his releases can 'count' as longform - The Magnificent Void being one of them.

Vir Unis's first releases are worth checking out for a similar vein - The Drift Inside and Aenonian Glow (which I used to put on low level repeat while sleeping.

Then you can explore Roach and Unis collaberations - very different, Body Electric and Blood Machine.
   Blood machine has a real sense of strong rhythms that somehow don't move - much like the blood running round the body....hard to explain....

Everything and Nothing / Re: A world full oblivion
« on: March 15, 2018, 01:44:00 AM »
That is quite a severe cut back - but the tree does have the chance to flourish in a different way - often when cut back like that it gives a 'starting' point to future cuts.

Lime trees also seem to manage such cut backs, they have a lot of 'epicormic' growth - which means they can bud from the trunk/bark and well as branch tips.

This is a nice webpage:   which includes pictures of stunning trees - including a 2,000 year old coppice....

I have been through periods when I feel we are not even as pleasant as storms etc - at least they are natural events. Now I tend to see us as 'impacters' (a little like beavers do) - we affect and impact the environment around us as part of our 'natural' essence. The question is more about what sort of impact we choose to have......

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: March 14, 2018, 04:36:29 AM »
Steve Roach - Slow Heat

Everything and Nothing / Re: A world full oblivion
« on: March 14, 2018, 02:00:29 AM »
Nice to hear the positive news

It can depend enormously on the species of tree....

In the UK there are ancient coppices (trees cut down to just a little above the ground), which if managed well last many years longer than if the trees were never touched by human hand. It is part of the complex interactions between humans and nature that can have positive aspects - the cycle of growth and cutting allows wood for human use (was very important in supplying firewood and shelter when there were not too many of us) and maintains a habitat for wildlife that would eventually be taken over by full forest.

Pollarding is when the trees are cut to a height that is higher than coppicing - can often look like an outstretched hand

Some trees - against a 'common sense' understanding - do thrive when treated this way. London Plane trees can easily survive a severe cutting back which would just kill many other species.

Look forward to the photo.

Everything and Nothing / Re: A world full oblivion
« on: March 13, 2018, 01:30:57 AM »
The human condition, a constant balance between positive and negative....

Sometimes I remember that there must have been more acts of creation, harmony, pleasure, love, connection - if there had been more of the other sort we would no longer be here....

But it is sometimes hard to remember and hold to that...

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Drone/pad EQ-ing.
« on: March 12, 2018, 02:35:13 AM »
I suspect we all seek certain sounds in our own initial inspirations before discovering our own voice - enjoy your own around....explore....create.

I forgot to add - let us know what you are doing.....

My main influences were very early Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream (giving away my age here) followed by Oophoi and Steve Roach in my second phase immersion in ambient music...but I also listened to Z'ev, Throbbing Gristle and Cabaret Voltaire in between.
   I also listened to Morton Subotnik, Dr Who theme etc etc.....

I suspect each of these influences can be heard in the range of music I've created.

I've also listened to a lot of music that I may listen to once or more often - but I am inspired not to make music like that as well, if that makes sense - not a reaction against, but recognising where I don't want to go as well as where I do....

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Drone/pad EQ-ing.
« on: March 11, 2018, 01:42:13 PM »
High inspiration indeed - but each of them had to start somewhere, and then develop their own sound and expression.

For example Vidna Obmana has created a very wide range of sounds, including harsh noise experiments, delicate glass like ambience, tribal (with Steve Roach) and guitar drones - all having different intent, sound palettes and eq....

I suspect we all seek certain sounds in our own initial inspirations before discovering our own voice - enjoy your own around....explore....create.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Drone/pad EQ-ing.
« on: March 11, 2018, 07:00:31 AM »
No formula. No set style.
No one type of drone.

Yes, in terms of creative process "no formula".

But i can hardly imagine that there is any music label who wants to release unprofessionaly (or bad sounding) recorded music. All ambient music i listened has something common in quality of sound (in drone ambient genre too). So, it somehow reminds of "80s pop sound with same peresets used" :)

  I would advocate creating sounds you are happy with, you can try putting out tracks on bandcamp etc and see how people respond to them.
  I used to use soundcloud too - where people could (I assume they still can) add comments to the tracks they are listening to.
  You could also try sending a CDs worth of music to labels you think might be interested and ask for constructive feedback.
  This will help you clarify the balance you wish to hold between what you are wanting to create and what other people want to listen to.

There is a very wide range of music / sounds created by artists in 'ambient' music - including those on this forum (let alone digging into the many other forums out there)....listen to different pieces and see how the range strikes you.

What artists inspire you? do you want to create in a similar vein or use those sounds as a springboard for your own themes and sounds.

Sometimes putting a very complex piece of sound through a variety of effects including the perennial reverb can create a backdrop / drone / atmosphere in which different frequencies and textures waft in and out - perhaps you could muddy things up further and see what arises?

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: February 26, 2018, 01:31:57 AM »
Dreaming of Shells - Oophoi
Dreams - Oophoi
 8) 8) 8)

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Hello to the forum
« on: February 22, 2018, 01:36:07 AM »
Hey Michael! It can be quiet here but it's ambient quiet.  ;)

with the perfect level of reverb

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Hello to the forum
« on: February 19, 2018, 01:20:10 AM »
Welcome and enjoy 8)

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Drone/pad EQ-ing.
« on: February 05, 2018, 12:58:03 AM »
Jaja's answer is short and to the point.
Applying reverb just to the sounds you want is much easier than trying to EQ out the sounds you don't want later.

But you can experiment with both and choose which you prefer - sometimes sounds develop a life of their own when something is 'left to chance'.....

Some of the sounds in my music started off in other projects. They did not fit what I was working on at the time, but were inspiration in themselves.

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: 4K movies and documentaries
« on: January 15, 2018, 01:57:51 AM »
   Finally managed to get a copy of Blade Runner that plays - did not manage to watch the film in one sitting as I got a call to go and sort something out - so looking forward to the ending.
Long time since I've watched it and I've forgotten lots of bits and pieces - but it made me think more about the 'am I human or just think I am?' question than ex-machina.
   I also found myself wondering if they would have filmed the scenes where he makes her ask to be kissed if filmed now......

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: 4K movies and documentaries
« on: January 11, 2018, 01:26:46 AM »
Planning to get Blade Runner 2049 as well as The Dark Knight, Interstellar and Inception and a few others over time

4K version of Blade runner would not play properly, tried 2 discs......

Also had the pleasure of watching The Bourne Trilogy, Assassins Creed, Ghost in the Shell, Lucy, Revenant, Oblivion.

Buying second hand where I can.

I've never been into watching TV, but the fight needed to get things sorted by the company that sold me the supposedly 4K TV in the first place has rather changed that.

Jealous and envious :( - have a great time.... 8) 8)

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Drone/pad EQ-ing.
« on: December 29, 2017, 01:25:19 AM »
drones can have a range of frequencies, but if choosing a particular range you may have to consider how you use the resulting sound.
you have to ask yourself what am I wanting to create with this sound.
Bass drones are very good for creating an open expansive foundation on which to layer other sounds.
higher pitch drones can be very grating on the ear if too continuous, unless you are adding other textures or effects to the sound - including panning and volume movements...
I created some drones using a wine glass as source - very limited in frequency - but did a variety of things with the result rather than leave it as a bald glass sound - even so, some found the result unpleasant.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: December 18, 2017, 01:55:59 AM »
Klaus Schulze - Body Love 2 and Cyborg

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / 4K movies and documentaries
« on: December 05, 2017, 01:50:23 AM »
Well it took a bit of time and a dispute with a large retailer over misselling a TV >:( >:( >:(, but I've upgraded to 4k TV and player.

I've not yet bought many 4k discs but the improvement is significant and both 'upsample' all other discs to the next highest spec (Blu ray to 4k and DVD to Blu ray).... I know they are not as good as watching a disc in the higher resolution, but they are not far off.
Even ordinary TV is better. In UK watching Blue Planet II on TV is often like having an aquarium in the room.

Deadpool - brilliant.
Passengers - quiet but interesting story, brilliant picture.
Guardians of the Galaxy 2 - fluff of a story but stunning picture.
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon - improvements harder to define.
Planet Earth II - Exquisite and Beautiful and Stunning

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Drone/pad EQ-ing.
« on: December 03, 2017, 08:12:33 AM »
I suppose I play around with a sound until it is how I want it to sound - whether that is EQ or anything else.
I have used comb and other filters and set the parameters slightly differently for left and right channels.
I have filtered out unwanted prominent frequencies - but also filtered out frequencies until the sound left is seesawing on the edge of pleasant - depends on what I want the music to do. Fractured has some pretty intense/harsh sounds in.
Sometimes I copy the tracks and do notch passes - and then mix them back together - so the end sound has most of the original, but somehow faded, like an old manuscript.....

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: TC Electronics' reverbs
« on: October 25, 2017, 07:09:30 AM »
Thanks for those suggestions. I didn't even think about that panning technique. I know Robert Rich used to take two versions of the same texture and detune one of them slightly, but I wouldn't have thought of panning. Maybe I could play around with different levels of delay layered together as well, maybe some super subtle modulation.

You just spurned some new ideas.


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