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Everything and Nothing / Re: Psychedelia in your home
« on: October 20, 2008, 09:22:17 AM »
http://www.elixa.com/mental/lightma.htm

seems mine, called the Orion, no longer is being made - but they have 3 versions called Sirius, Proteus and Procyon....

The Procyon seems to have a software that enables the creation of music that creates your own light programmes.....

PS the sirius is $99, the Proteus is $159. The website is a bit new agey (never looked at it before just bought the box after a trial at a festival)

Obviously, using flashing lights you need to be aware of the risk re epileptic seizures etc.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Psychedelia in your home
« on: October 20, 2008, 01:21:01 AM »
If you want some psychedelia more self contained (ie when away from home) you can buy small gadgets that produce a variety of flashing light patterns in leds on 'sunglasses'. The make I have is called Orion. The range of patterns include steady pulses and you choose the frequency. They also have set programmes that start of at normal 'waking' brain frequency and thenh gently slow down into the more deep sleep brainwave frequencies for a time before bringing you back up to waking again.....

This plus headphones makes for a great and dreamy time.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Fun in the mountains... and other adventures
« on: October 19, 2008, 01:30:25 PM »
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spent time swinging up to and above 100 feet in the air on park/churchyard/forest trees with live chainsaws...

You're nuts.   ;D 

I can handle crawling across a sliver of rock on a high mountain ridge, with thousands of feet of certain death on both sides, just to get to a sweet ski slope; I can then enjoy 2000 feet of "you fall you die" skiing, right on the edge of control; but there's no way you'd get me up in a tree.  Not sure why, but that just freaks me out.    :o

I found myself more worried about the ropes and man made stuff than the trees. It was helped by seeing two 16 stone guys show me how far up a tree and out on the small limbs they could get with good techniques.

After training I went a coupl of times into a forest on my own, it took me a while to realise why I was unusually scared - if i fell no one was going to come pass and find me. Also did some private work on my own , but stopped that when i was 60foot up a tree in someones garden and watching how rotten the branches were that I was relying on to anchor the ropes on......

Funnily enough I never want to go mountain climbing or learn to ski, I remember a few years back watching the 'raging planet' tv series and loved the volcanoes and earthquakes etc, but the second they showed an avalanche my stomache turned upside down, i felt very nauseas and actually scared - wierd.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Fun in the mountains... and other adventures
« on: October 18, 2008, 12:21:33 PM »
My main danger/excitement period was late 80's and early 90's. I started training as a council tree surgeon 1 month before the hurricane of 87 in the UK. due to insurance concerns was not able to work on the trees in the streets as a risk to the public so spent time swinging up to and above 100 feet in the air on park/churchyard/forest trees with live chainsaws.....Sorry no pictures.

One of the oak trees damaged by the storm was so big we ended up climbing it with spikes and using a four foot guidebar to section it 'small' bit by bit...we did have a chainsaw with a 6 foot guide bar, but we weren't keen on using it as it had a handle at the sharp end that we were understandably reticent to take hold of.

One of the guys got his foot crushed so it was very dangerous, but the climbing bit was really a boys dream come true, especially if the trees were waving about in the winds.

Did forestry for 5 years, much less dangerous and exciting as we were basically planting and keeping the forest clean, landowner got guys in with big tractors etc to do the felling. But it was great fun burning the left branches etc on huge fires in winter.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Singing Bowls
« on: October 14, 2008, 03:22:27 PM »
....shortly hit upon the idea of using one of the temple bells (two small cymbals on a string) and twirled one end around inside the bowls as fast as I could - was definitely edgy and dischordant - and apologised to the bowls all the time I was doing it. Surprisingly none seem to be any th worse for wear.

Ok now I have to try this when I get to the studio later today...

Paul

let us know what you think...I got a variety of sounds by changing length of string - short meant intermittent bursts of clanging, just right length to spin all the way round the rim was a continuous sound.

not a technique I think for the crystal bowls - anyone tried one of these. I saw one almost big enough to have a bath in that made a really deep sound....

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Singing Bowls
« on: October 11, 2008, 09:28:00 AM »
In the UK singing bowls are often available in stalls selling nepalese or himalayan clothes at music festivals or spiritual fayres. The second of these are well worth attending as the stalls I have seen are often run by nepalese or himalayan people who want to develop interest in their culture and so tend to import good versions of what they are selling.

A slightly different tibetan sound maker is the dorje (vajra - thunderbolt) and bell. They usually come in a set, representing among other things male and female energies - the bell can be sung in the same way as a singing bowl by rubbing one of the beaters around the edge.

Thanks, sounds interesting, I do not live in UK though, but I got a friend who might be able to help me..but I think I might be able to find a good quality singing bowl online...


It's amazing how different even similar looking ones can sound. That's why I get mine from stalls, so I can listen to them and see which I like. Let us know how it sounds when you get it.

I did music for a workshop last year and the person leading it asked me to do something a bit edgy and dischordant. I looked at my collection of harmonious sounding bowls and thought  how the hell am I going to do that?....shortly hit upon the idea of using one of the temple bells (two small cymbals on a string) and twirled one end around inside the bowls as fast as I could - was definitely edgy and dischordant - and apologised to the bowls all the time I was doing it. Surprisingly none seem to be any th worse for wear.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Singing Bowls
« on: October 10, 2008, 01:03:44 PM »
In the UK singing bowls are often available in stalls selling nepalese or himalayan clothes at music festivals or spiritual fayres. The second of these are well worth attending as the stalls I have seen are often run by nepalese or himalayan people who want to develop interest in their culture and so tend to import good versions of what they are selling.

A slightly different tibetan sound maker is the dorje (vajra - thunderbolt) and bell. They usually come in a set, representing among other things male and female energies - the bell can be sung in the same way as a singing bowl by rubbing one of the beaters around the edge.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: I didn't do that well in Economics...
« on: October 08, 2008, 03:34:31 PM »
Now we are in the situation where the money markets cause problems by bad practice (which causes rising prices and job losses etc), this affects the economy, the banks won't lend to each other beyond over night which causes more financial problems for ordinary people, so the british government borrow 5 BILLION pounds from the money markets to lend to the banks to get money flowing so they can lend to us and make more money again
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Not sure how the faces appeared - I just typed lots of ?

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Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Favorite ambient cover art?
« on: October 07, 2008, 04:48:24 AM »
I really like the artwork and covers of the Amplexus 3" series, you can see the development all through the (too short) series and I just love the extended size of the covers - reminds me of the good old LP......

Speaking of which, my all time favourite LP covers are Space Ritual by hawkwind (full fold out version) and Klaus Sculze Irrlicht.

I like to do my own art too and arpat from Stellar Nurseries, all Umbra and Penumbra releases are my own - I am particularly pleased with The Portal's Dreaming a mixture of photo and photoshop - http://www.hypnos.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=HOS&Product_Code=penumbra056&Category_Code=umbra

The Quiet Labyrinth - http://www.hypnos.com/smf/index.php?topic=254.0

The start point of the Arhythmia cover is a photo of the inside of an orchid, which looks stunning even before photoshoped.....

Fonts - my favourite is Papyrus.

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Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: Fascinating Effect Boxes
« on: October 07, 2008, 12:59:03 AM »
http://www.daddys.com/used/?itemnumber=DIG6020

one Digitech RDS-8000 going here for $79.99 + $20.00 postage, looks interesting

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 07, 2008, 12:51:29 AM »
Nice looking packaging on that box.

Gaudi - Robert Rich

Athlit - Oophoi.

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 03, 2008, 01:03:54 AM »
Vir Unis - Pulse n Atmo.

Was listening to this for the first time in ages and realised that the rhythm i am often tapping out when at a traffic lights, or at home while thinking is the rhythm from the first track.......Somehow it has just stuck and as i tap it out unconsciously so often must count as my favourite rhythm in music!!

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Ambient Clothing
« on: October 02, 2008, 08:47:26 AM »
I saw the thread title and had an image of wearing clothes that related in the same way as ambient music relates to 'average or normal' music........ ;D

no fixed form, amorphous, drifty, foggy, experimental. It would be  like wearing a cloud, a planet turning, an ominous cave.....

Underpants like the magnificent void, Trousers like a flock of butterflies descending in a zen garden, Shirts like the insane brightness etc etc etc.....

I think it's a great idea, and as long as we don't get arrested we should go for it whole heartedly... ;D


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Everything and Nothing / Re: I didn't do that well in Economics...
« on: October 02, 2008, 04:56:37 AM »
Things continue to bounce around in the uk.

 >:( Bankers complained when it took the government so long to act and save Northern Rock.
 >:( ??? Bankers now complaining that government backing for Northern Rock gives it an unfair market advantage.
 :P British savers at least seem to agree as high levels of money being moved by savers from other banks into Northern Rock who have had to stop a number of offers to lower market impact.
 :o british savers splitting up their finances (if they have enough) so that none of their accounts go above the 35,000 amount the government have gauranteed savers will be compensated for if money is lost.
 :o Irish government yesterday gauranteed savings in all 6 of it's banks - money flowing into them already.
 >:( :o ::) Financial institutions saying things need to be stabilised, but then getting pissy when UK plans involve banks covering losses - so market bounces around again.
 >:( Bankers on radio saying that regulation and limiting pay is not the way
 :o Ex - Conservative government minister said that in the past, when financial things were dodgy the government met regularly and knew exactly which banks they would support and which they would let fall. (I'd be interested in how they made that decision and who would benefit or lose out most)
 :o Bankers and politicians all saying that speculation about outcomes is dangerous as it could affect the market (which itself makes the marketeers nervous) and then proceed to specualte.......... :o :o :o

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Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: October 02, 2008, 04:05:22 AM »
Fear falls Burning, Infinite Sea of Sustain.

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Everything and Nothing / Re: Drones
« on: October 01, 2008, 12:56:32 AM »
Not forgettig that the Australian Aborigines and Tibetan manks have been droning for a very long time too.

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Was listening to 'infinite sea of sustain' earlier. FFB is definitely a new path for him and definitely deserves a listen with lots of attention.

Joe R said "He Spoke in Dead Tongues" is liquid bliss, entrancing, and completely in another world of sound. - a little sentence that is like getting an entrancing smell of cooking as going into a restaurant, sets the aural taste buds going overtime....

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I think rules are very important in many ways and we get into very subtle discussions when exploring them - we all tend to follow convention in some way or other, whether it's in our dress sense or just not hitting people because we feel like it. I remember a group of punks I was part of decrying conventional beauty, who were not happy when i suggested we had not really broken that 'rule' because none of us actually made ourselves ugly, we did not smell of piss or have rotten teeth - we had just changed the ideal of beauty and worked at embodying it

It's important to know what you are doing when you challenge or break rules, not just break them because it's easy. If you don't understand them how can you know what you are choosing to avoid. I knew a pagan animal rights group that had dispensed with the concept of 'Lord and Lady' because of their own reactions to human authority and without, it seemed, any idea of what these concepts might actually mean in the owrlds they were exploring....

I never had any drumming or muical tuition and I recognise both the limits this creates in my musical creation and the opportunites - I spent a little while drumming with a really tight samba band and learnt things that really took my drumming to a new level - gave me more form and rules around which I could improvise.

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I hate to have to say this, but... since the words "Church" and "Religion" and "God" appear above, I need to remind everyone to behave and stop short of heavy religious discussions. 

I'm not implying at all that I think that's where this is headed, just making extra-sure to remind everyone where we DON'T want to let this go, OK?



Hear hear. Or is it here here...

especially with the news of a german man being arrested after travelling to England and murdering someone he had been arguing with in an internet forum.....Not sure whether to think "What are we coming to?" or admiring his dedication and passion - even if completely mad and misguided!!!!

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For me the creativity goes both ways and i think that is what enabled the multi faceted aspects described by 9dragons in ancient societies. These societies lived and dreamt with those energies, co created. Ancient irish moneylenders were able to make contracts where the money was paid back in the next life. Native American dances after a hunt are still affecting the hunt that just happened.

Very few cultures are as limited and linear in their understanding of the world, time, the essence of humanity and other worlds around them as we are. Everything is in a line, everyone is trying to get to the top, individual and singular - so there is nothing bu myself and i am defined by one thing - whatever i choose that to be.

For me it's not just about me reaching out for the ineffable, the the unknown beyond my current understanding, but how the ineffable is expressed through me, even in 'ordinary' daily living. Sometimes I try to create music that I pull out of my own imagination - other times it is what my imagination is trying to pull out of me.

On a lighter note i include a post i made on another forum about electronic music. There was humurous discussion about sequences and ambience - termed here ambulance..... ::)

I use more of the ambulance than anything else. Sequences are ok but get in the way of exploring the infinite subtleties of ambulance. The ambulance artist may want to sound like some of Tangerine Dream but not all of it or all the time.

Ambulance can be created by synthesizers or by finding sounds. Sound actually occurs almost all the time and is played by the universe more often than music - of any genre. Some ambulance is a direct recreation of the sounds of the universe - a sort of shorter cover version of reality. Other ambulance is intended to create the sounds of worlds not actually in existence, like the sound of a planet urinating. In some ways this ambulance is a sonic version of david attenborough nature programmes in which we look at the world speeded up or slowed right down - nice on the eyes but not actually how things are.

Found sounds can include instruments, such as the rain on a stick, or goat hoof rattles (once the rest of the goat has been moved somewhere else). Found sounds can also be recordings made in fields (usually under the cover of darkness to avoid looking stupid) Sounds found in fields have included thunder, flying aeroplanes, whales, waterfalls, jungles and industrial factories. other found sounds include humans making as much noise as possible by throwing things like metal sheets around or even singing.

Found sounds are often treated by forcing them through a variety of effects and processes such as echo, phasing, flanging, reversing, stretching etc until the original sound can no longer be recognised - part of the fun is trying to work out how the sound was created......

Ambulance can be used for background sounds whilst be creative on something else, for meditation or just simply going to sleep. It is often admired by people who find paint drying a bit too exciting unless it is a long weekend and they have just had a nice cup of tea.

Hope that raised a smile or too ;D ;D


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