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Everything and Nothing / Re: Tinnitus
« on: December 11, 2008, 04:57:19 AM » does that affect your life? Saw a documentary recently, hard to imagine living with it

Everything and Nothing / Re: Forgive me, but I have to write this one out.
« on: December 11, 2008, 04:52:56 AM »
My thoughts are with you too.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Tinnitus
« on: December 10, 2008, 04:20:41 PM »
Mike's observation is interesting, the sheer level of noise in most people's daily lives masking
any minor tinnitus they may have. I would imagine this is not the case for people with more severe
forms of the condition.

I was wondering whether one of the 'functions' of ambient music is to drown out noise in a different
manner? Replacing unwanted sound - noise, with something you want to hear. I'd like to think that
amongst all those commuters out there, some are lost in their own ambient world in their earphones,
slightly more relaxed amidst the sonic chaos around them.


I was thinking that ambient artists and listeners might listen to music/sound differently and be more aware of the sounds in their own heads and ears?

Everything and Nothing / Re: Tinnitus
« on: December 10, 2008, 12:36:16 PM »
reading everyones comments makes me feel very lucky - I used to lie in motorheads bass bins at their gigs. Regularly went home deaf and a wobbly head from headbanging, but no regular tinnitus, just odd spits of sound especially if unwell - usually high pitched.

Everything and Nothing / Re: How the CD format compromise the music
« on: December 07, 2008, 04:07:00 AM »
Great discussion - a few random thoughts -

The time limits of the media available has always 'limited' the time music has on each 'disc' in the past, but now that is much less of an issue - given the ease of access to DVD writers in home computers perhaps we will see more really long releases (rather than 'this disc has every track by Black sabbath on it'), but apart from joining two Cds worth of my own music that were connected I must admit I have not considered it. I think it would take some time to work out what I would do for that length of time.

Also, remember that the 3 minute pop song was very specifically put together, I can recall hearing years ago about the reasons, but can only recall vaguely it was to do with general attention spans, creating variety to keep people hooked and it's easier to fit it in than an opera or whole symphony....more likely to make a lot of money that way.

As to time and effort for listening etc I think there are a huge variety of pressures and things affecting each of us. I know I grew up with LP's and just twenty or so minutes a side - so on first encounter of an hour long piece I was ecstatic - but I recognise that I too struggle with listening to 76 minutes unless it is part of something I am doing (or for Floating which was partly made that long so it lasted longer than a 'therapy' session and so did not disturb the client by stopping before they had finished). When I was younger I was able to spend hours just listening to music - even with a full time job. But now I have other responsibilities and it is not so easy. I also spend a lot of time listening to my own music, especially during the processes of creation so I do not listen as much to other people's music as I would like to do.

I wonder whether the actual instruments also 'limit' us. I know many guitarists who almost always have a guitar in their hands and are just 'playing' exploring sound and looking for the song that's waiting to arrive with them - but I have to turn everything on, check the connections etc - so it's not just about the time we listen, but how and why.

Oophoi said that the shorter penumbra releases he put out did not sell as well as he thought the quality of the music deserved - and he did get a number of comments/criticisms about there not being 70 minutes music on the discs.

Immersions comments about time and a meditative space have some truth in them, non western cultures do look at time and consciousness differently and it is rare to find people involved in anything like the Dine (or Navajo) Yeibichei ceremonies which can last for four days and nights with very specific (ie not made up as you go along) chants, music and actions. I am not suggesting that people try to take part in the Dine ceremonies but pointing out that they are a very different space to a concert or a festival as they engage every thread of the social/cultural/spiritual/survival weave of the tribe or people. i think that would make for very different listening.

Hey Mike, perhaps the next Hypnos release could be a collection of 3 minute tracks - each of us taking one of our albums and distilling it down to a 3 minute shot ;D ;D

Everything and Nothing / Re: How the CD format compromise the music
« on: December 05, 2008, 10:08:27 AM »
Aah, I remember when 20 - 30 minutes was the maximum.

Like any art,the artist needs to use their discernment in order to find the right length for the music.

Somnium by Robert Rich is an example of very long playback for a specific purpose and i loved leaving it on while I slept....

I know the Amplexus and Penumbra series used much shorter length pieces and they held some very good music too.

housing, mortgages, finances, many businesses - lots of struggle for people happening here now.

A friend works for Honda and despite BBC saying no lay offs for Honda, the company he works for is a subsidiary and they are having a lot of redundancies.

Some companies are doing well, the cheaper supermarkets and the 1 shops doing very well.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: December 03, 2008, 01:19:27 PM »
I put 'X' on as I had not listened to it for a long time and enjoyed it.

I noticed the latest version has a 26 minute version of George Trakl. Mine has the original 5:25 long piece - what's the long version like as the original is one of my favourite tracks on the album?

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Favorite ambient cover art?
« on: December 03, 2008, 08:10:38 AM »
P.S. I think the use of font is as important as the rest of the art and I try to use photoshop to add/morph any font I use so it is more part of the artwork than overlaid on it....

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: Favorite ambient cover art?
« on: December 03, 2008, 03:34:07 AM »
I do like the papyrus script. I find it slightly mysterious, aged, weathered, non linear.

Despite any current popularity and overuse I'll keep using it as, like the Hypnos font for Hypnos, I think it is now part of my creative signature....and thanks for the covers thumbs up 9dragons.

I did use a different font on a self released CD entitled 'Visiting Berlin' which was my first attempt at rhythmical and melodic music in recent years (see - )

I used Photoshop to get a picture of my Supernova synth into the typeface...

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: December 02, 2008, 01:07:52 PM »
I had all Klaus's albums up to Live and X was one of my favourites, as they all were for different reasons. I liked the front cover, was like being pulled in Klaus's sonic slipstream and flying off......

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: The Black Hole Reverb
« on: November 27, 2008, 05:56:32 AM »
I use a mixture of reverbs from ones included on the instruments, hardware and software.

Hardware is the TCM3000, which has a great clear sound and can be tweaked a lot to create what I want. There is an ariyness and depth of quality to it that I have not managed to create in the others. I do, if I create a sound I like on the other reverbs, put them through the M3000 to clean the sound up.

Software includes the reverbs on KorgD16 and Roland VS2480. I use the Glaceverb VST plug in for Sonar 5. It has some unusual sounds which are fun to play with.

synth and keyboard reverbs.

I do like putting the sound through a variety of them rather than using just the pallette of one.

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Seren Ffordd Thread
« on: November 26, 2008, 05:05:27 PM »
This link should work


Just seen the last few posts - and this link works for me and the original one does not - but it looks the same......

Everything and Nothing / Re: CD-R Deterioration
« on: November 24, 2008, 07:07:03 AM »
I've not had a problem with either CD or CDr going bad, but then I don't play all my music all the time so there could be some lurking somewhere.
I use TDK for storing my own music in physical form but don't use sticky labels on anything. Had no problem there yet - but everything is on hardrive if I do....

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Seren Ffordd Thread
« on: November 24, 2008, 06:59:36 AM »
since my last post one of the collaberations I coyly mentioned has become more formal when Oophoi mentioned it on his new MySpace page.

So I am excited to say the album is called 'Martian Chronicles' and is inspired by the book of the same title by Ray Bradbury. Currently we are swapping sounds/music and seeing how our explorations take us into the uncertain, twisting and parallel story lines of the book.

Forum Member Projects News and Promotion / Re: Seren Ffordd Thread
« on: November 20, 2008, 12:38:43 PM »
Recently had a couple of enquiries as to any music on the horizon and realised it's been a year since The Quiet Labyrinth was being completed and almost a year since it's release.

I had a very difficult time at work from Christmas last year, doing lots of unpaid overtime and not sleeping much due to stress - which rather affected the creative process. I just kept checking in with my imagination to make sure it as keeping tab of the ideas and dreaming. Managed to get a new job, but the steep learning curve meant a little longer waiting for enough head and heart space to get going again in the way I wanted.

In the meantime had a couple of tracks released on the Ambientlive label compilations:

Awakenings 2008 volume 1.5

Awakenings 2008 volume 2.5 (no webpage yet)

also a track called Incubus on the forthcoming EMPortal compilation 2 cd set.

I am working on the disc possibility mentioned by Mike for the Secret Sounds imprint - titled 'Fractured'. It is taking some time as I am doing a lot of intricate sound manipulation, including cuts down to 1/10 of a second in a short part of it......Most of the base tracks are laid (and last one ringing in my head) and looking forward to the sounds evolving over the top. Hopefully Mike will like the end result.

Also working on two collaberations which I am very excited by, no idea of release dates as yet.

So many thanks to everyone who has expressed support and kept in touch.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Do you still want to learn?
« on: November 17, 2008, 03:37:30 PM »
after passing my diploma in 1999 Iworked in a provate residential care home for almost 10 years. Had lots of training, but only when I came into the public sector and started training there did I remember how good learning can make my head 'hurt'. I think that's the difference between training/learning that just keeps the boxes ticked and training/learning that really pushes the mind into really really thinking....

At the P.O. that I work at, my Postmaster has told us he will be cutting 4,000 hours next year.

One route (the shared/auxilliary one) will be dismantled and dissolved into the carriers routes.  That means more work in less time for people, and very little of the overtime people depend on. 

I don't have a route yet and am at the bottom of seniority so I am terribly worried about my security.  They love me there, but when push comes to shove companies will turn their back on you.  I'll just have to take it one day at time. 

Hope things go better than you fear avec, not a good place to be in with all the worry etc.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: I am trying to imagine...
« on: November 14, 2008, 02:33:17 AM »
I think it is also important not to just wait/search for the perfect piece of equipment before you start Immersion. I bought some mics in a second hand shop, sennheiser, and they seem pretty good. Get some mics that don't break your bank and start playing with recording, finding what field sounds interest you, what sounds you could use as a source for playing around with the reverbs and effects to create something you like. You at least then have an idea of what works and does not before you think about spending big amounts on them.

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: I am trying to imagine...
« on: November 13, 2008, 02:44:56 AM »
For me it is about playing and finding the sounds that inspire me and going with those, exploring, pushing, transforming them.

Along with a healthy dose of everynow and then trying something different and see where that takes me.

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