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Everything and Nothing / Re: It's a new year... let's introduce ourselves
« on: January 14, 2009, 11:59:39 AM »
I'm Andy, 47 years of age, and record as Seren Ffordd.

I'm married (second marriage) to Glenys. I've no children (having had a vasectomy at 21) but inherited 4 children and 4 grandchildren via both marriages.

I've always liked sound more than music - used to drive my dad nuts making wierd noises before i even discovered elctronic music via Hawkwind, and felt instantly at home. At school I always wanted to do film special effects or be a stuntman as a career, but careers advisor was as useful as a chocolate teapot....

Loved very early Klaus schulze, Tangerine Dream etc. Sequences can be fun, but i could not listen to them a lot. Got into more noisy bands such as Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire and Z'ev when he was throwing the metal around.

was in a band at the time, had a portastudio and Roland 100 synth (now whish I'd kept it...)and released stuff via the cassette scene of the late 70's. Nearly released a record on the Flux of Pink Indian label, but the thought of going into a recording studio to recreate our version of chaos did not appeal...

Spent 17 years not listening to or making music other than drumming (tapping is something else I've done since a nipper) in a south american folk band for two years and drumming for 'ceremonies'/workshops.....

In those 17 years i did a variety of jobs and widened my experience of life a bit.

Currently a social worker in hospital, attempting to get people back home with support or into a home if their level of need make that necessary. Stressful like all social work jobs, but not as scary as child protection which i've also done.

After the end of my first marriage I found my fingers itching to make music and four years ago saw a second hand digital portastudio in a shop and have gone from there.

I love twisting sounds, pulling them apart, turning them inside out etc. 2008 was a quiet year in the sense of album releases (ie none), mainly due to work pressures, but did have a number of tracks appear on compilations. Currently working on a couple of collaberations, another album for possible secret sounds release and another track for a compilation......

hoping to pull 2009 into a more musically constructive year altogether - even thinking of playing 'live' and getting equipment to do so............

Everything and Nothing / Re: Organizing large music collections.
« on: January 14, 2009, 11:39:25 AM »
I do not have a huge collection of music, maybe 500 Cds. If I'd stayed buying music since I was a lad it would be a lot lot lot bigger....

I arrange mine as ambient first, in order of my favourite artists and each artists releases in chronological order (including any non ambient releases by that artist ie light fantastic by steve roach). Next is non ambient electronic, then there is a small section of non electronic music that has ambient presentations such as Tavener and david darling, then rock, then downstairs due to lack of space in cabinets upstairs is another small collection of rock and music with vocals, such as kate bush, laura veirs, nick drake and chris isaaks.....

Everything and Nothing / Re: Are you Synaesthetic? (test here)
« on: January 12, 2009, 05:40:38 AM »
I came out as 'no' on the first set of questions too.

I do go into a 'trance' when listening to music and have had out of body experiences when listening but i don't think that counts as synaesthesisa. My wife tells me I go off planet when making music too, taking a couple of hours to land when finished. Once got so deep into some drumming that I did not recognise her when she walked past me....

Art and Literature, Movies and TV / Re: Now reading
« on: January 12, 2009, 05:34:06 AM »
I got a copy of 'The Bourne Identity' in a charity shop, thought I'd read it on holiday to see how it compares to the film.

Going to Egypt in 3 weeks for a fortnight

Other Ambient (and related) Music / Re: AtmoWorks Compilation(s)
« on: January 07, 2009, 10:12:25 AM »
I'm already hooked in and looking forward to it.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Now Watching
« on: January 04, 2009, 07:37:30 AM »
having been off work with flu for four weeks I've watched a lot of TV and DVDs - can't remember what in the first couple of weeks but has included Matrix trilogy, House series 4, Babylon 5 series 1, the Dark Knight, Hellboy 2, The science of sleep, the colour of Magic, X-Files new film, Narnia - Prince Caspianplus lots of crap on TV....

The X-Files film I think they could have done as an episode and it would have been fine - but not a film, too long and not complicated enough....I thought the Darh Knight was great, it went into the story and values quite deeply. Prince Caspian film had no character development at all.

Now Playing / Re: Currently listening, part 1
« on: January 02, 2009, 03:55:05 AM »
From Stefano's myspace page:

Thanks for mentioning it Brian, and for the request, APK!

Indeed, stunning artwork, very beautiful....

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / Re: AKG C 3000 B
« on: December 29, 2008, 03:33:25 AM »
Thanks for the information.

In the UK they seem to go for anything between 176 and 255 normally (I even saw above 300 as RRP). These were 115, which happened to be my limit and they were going fast, so I ordered them - I wanted a pair, will let you know how they sound compared to my current dynamic set up....

Just seen I could have got the Rodes for 115 too, nevermind

Music Gearheads Tech Talk / AKG C 3000 B
« on: December 28, 2008, 06:07:37 AM »
I'm thinking of upgrading the microphones in my studio - I've seen a pair of these and wondered if anyone has any experince with them or advice?


Everything and Nothing / Re: 2008 winter weather
« on: December 18, 2008, 10:23:09 AM »
We'll we have not had a cold winter in some years - even frost is not as hard as it used to be.....I worked for a number of years in forestry and everyone said the same, need a good cold winter to kill off the bugs.....

I believe there were a couple of cold ones in the early 60's and 1946-47 was also particularly bad. In North wales in the 46-47 one people were able to walk across fields over the hedges as the snow was so deep, many farm animals died. Food parcels were dropped on cut off villages by the air force - some cars abandoned in december were not picked up till about March. Some snow drifts were 20 feet deep...

This is of course in the southern UK, Scotland and Northern England do get a lot more snow - but I think they were even harder hit in the years I mentioned.

Everything and Nothing / Re: What music is
« on: December 18, 2008, 09:32:04 AM »
I like it ;D

Everything and Nothing / Re: Natural Hallucinogens without drugs
« on: December 12, 2008, 03:31:34 AM »
Thats pretty effective - and pretty too

Everything and Nothing / Re: Tinnitus
« on: December 11, 2008, 01:05:22 PM »
Last night, well even now, since taking part in this thread I am more aware of the noises in my ears, they are partly blocked by flu and I have been coughing and throwing up for a couple of days but I think they are always there, I just manage to tune them out unless thinking about them - or reading this thread.

Vertigo sounds pretty unpleasant. I ended up on the bathroom floor on Tuesday I was so dizzy from the flu, so my heart goes out to you Jesse.

I think it was the first time my body temperature has gone awol - I got into a bath and really could not tell whether it was warm or hot - wierd feeling, I had to ask Glenys to tell me how hot it was.

and I keep forgetting to ask - what is psychic tinnitus?

Everything and Nothing / Re: Tinnitus
« on: December 11, 2008, 11:46:15 AM »
Are you able to stay in the dream state while awake? Then again tying to do this deliberately might not be a good thing to do??

Nearest I ever came to such things was many years ago when I was learning about herbalism (not something I kept at) and using a couple of herbs i took them every night in a drink for 'dreams'....what was a real head trip was that the dreams I had were not whacky or wierd, but as real as the days experiences only with just one or two very slight changes - one of which was that i had not used all the tomatoes in the evening meal that day. To say I could not understand why there were no tomatoes in the fridge is an understatement - I was blaming everyone and no one could understand why I was so adamant. It took me a few days to realise what was happening, by which time I really did not know whether I was coming or going, and it took a couple of days to clear out my system once I stopped.

A friend tried it when I said what happened and she had a very similar experience. It showed me how simple it can be to fry our brains, and in ways that are much more subtle than a bad trip.

Everything and Nothing / Re: How the CD format compromise the music
« on: December 11, 2008, 07:48:19 AM »
when I was first recording, I used to make loong tape loops and leave my synth playing odd sounds at odd intervals - used to create some interesting soundscapes and I think that is the nearest I have ever got to the 5 hours type idea.

Oenyaw, which of your longform pieces would you recommend to first time listeners?

Everything and Nothing / Re: Tinnitus
« on: December 11, 2008, 04:57:19 AM » does that affect your life? Saw a documentary recently, hard to imagine living with it

Everything and Nothing / Re: Forgive me, but I have to write this one out.
« on: December 11, 2008, 04:52:56 AM »
My thoughts are with you too.

Everything and Nothing / Re: Tinnitus
« on: December 10, 2008, 04:20:41 PM »
Mike's observation is interesting, the sheer level of noise in most people's daily lives masking
any minor tinnitus they may have. I would imagine this is not the case for people with more severe
forms of the condition.

I was wondering whether one of the 'functions' of ambient music is to drown out noise in a different
manner? Replacing unwanted sound - noise, with something you want to hear. I'd like to think that
amongst all those commuters out there, some are lost in their own ambient world in their earphones,
slightly more relaxed amidst the sonic chaos around them.


I was thinking that ambient artists and listeners might listen to music/sound differently and be more aware of the sounds in their own heads and ears?

Everything and Nothing / Re: Tinnitus
« on: December 10, 2008, 12:36:16 PM »
reading everyones comments makes me feel very lucky - I used to lie in motorheads bass bins at their gigs. Regularly went home deaf and a wobbly head from headbanging, but no regular tinnitus, just odd spits of sound especially if unwell - usually high pitched.

Everything and Nothing / Re: How the CD format compromise the music
« on: December 07, 2008, 04:07:00 AM »
Great discussion - a few random thoughts -

The time limits of the media available has always 'limited' the time music has on each 'disc' in the past, but now that is much less of an issue - given the ease of access to DVD writers in home computers perhaps we will see more really long releases (rather than 'this disc has every track by Black sabbath on it'), but apart from joining two Cds worth of my own music that were connected I must admit I have not considered it. I think it would take some time to work out what I would do for that length of time.

Also, remember that the 3 minute pop song was very specifically put together, I can recall hearing years ago about the reasons, but can only recall vaguely it was to do with general attention spans, creating variety to keep people hooked and it's easier to fit it in than an opera or whole symphony....more likely to make a lot of money that way.

As to time and effort for listening etc I think there are a huge variety of pressures and things affecting each of us. I know I grew up with LP's and just twenty or so minutes a side - so on first encounter of an hour long piece I was ecstatic - but I recognise that I too struggle with listening to 76 minutes unless it is part of something I am doing (or for Floating which was partly made that long so it lasted longer than a 'therapy' session and so did not disturb the client by stopping before they had finished). When I was younger I was able to spend hours just listening to music - even with a full time job. But now I have other responsibilities and it is not so easy. I also spend a lot of time listening to my own music, especially during the processes of creation so I do not listen as much to other people's music as I would like to do.

I wonder whether the actual instruments also 'limit' us. I know many guitarists who almost always have a guitar in their hands and are just 'playing' exploring sound and looking for the song that's waiting to arrive with them - but I have to turn everything on, check the connections etc - so it's not just about the time we listen, but how and why.

Oophoi said that the shorter penumbra releases he put out did not sell as well as he thought the quality of the music deserved - and he did get a number of comments/criticisms about there not being 70 minutes music on the discs.

Immersions comments about time and a meditative space have some truth in them, non western cultures do look at time and consciousness differently and it is rare to find people involved in anything like the Dine (or Navajo) Yeibichei ceremonies which can last for four days and nights with very specific (ie not made up as you go along) chants, music and actions. I am not suggesting that people try to take part in the Dine ceremonies but pointing out that they are a very different space to a concert or a festival as they engage every thread of the social/cultural/spiritual/survival weave of the tribe or people. i think that would make for very different listening.

Hey Mike, perhaps the next Hypnos release could be a collection of 3 minute tracks - each of us taking one of our albums and distilling it down to a 3 minute shot ;D ;D

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